Elon Musk does not appear at hearing in French prosecutors’ X probe

The USA do not charge tariffs to the Europeans, they charge it to Americans.

It's just grandpa saying the same shit he always does. Nobody treats him fairly blah blah blah...

Europe needs to dump American stuff we're they can. France is moving to their own custom Linux because microslop is openly spyware Honestly I don't know if they can legally do it but ban Facebook and shitter while they are at it and VET American computer hardware.

American bullies the world with unilateral sanctions. They can go f*** themselves on this one

>The Paris prosecutor said it had no knowledge of such a letter, and added that "the French constitution guarantees the separation of powers and the independence of the judiciary." Between your comment and the above quote, a good chuckle was had.

Lost me at "treating U.S. big tech companies unfairly"....

I’m in medical imaging industry. People have no idea how much extra effort goes into designing, marketing and maintaining products and equipment globally to comply with FDA regulations. Obviously, companies don’t do it just out of respect or love of USA. They need to comply in order to sell. So why are US tech companies act like they above the law in countries they want to do business with?

The real problem is that pro-customer regulations are a myth in the US, and then idiots like Trump come and demand we abolish these regulations in Europe for American products. No, you not being able to sell chlorinated chicken in Europe is not a "hidden tariff", it's just Europe not allowing you to sell hot garbage to Europeans. You are totally free to produce chicken that's up to European standards and sell it here.

Not to mention attempted extradition of citizens from other countries for breaking US-only laws on non-US soil (Julian Assange)

> U.S. President Donald Trump has often accused Europe of treating U.S. big tech companies unfairly through the use of fines, taxes and regulation. > > Meanwhile the US is ok with sanctioning individuals on a personal level through their tech companies.

Who could have foreseen 100 consecutive years of allowing the US government to do what it wanted, where it wanted, to whomever it wanted, would end like this?

Oh those poor billion and trillion dollar companies waaaagh

Or blow up your citizens in international waters without trial.

> Donald Trump Nobody cares at that point. He's too random. And he was enthusiastically elected. So the entirety of US is treated like a pariah right now and it's not likely to be changed any time in the following decades. Enjoy your economical/military/whatever power you think you have left.

"we are going to build a fire-wall, and you are going to pay for it"

Quite preposterous, how dare they apply common law to the exalted over-rich tech billionaires.

>U.S. President Donald Trump has often accused Europe of treating U.S. big tech companies unfairly through the use of fines, taxes and regulation. OK, don't sell your product in the EU

Rich people were going to Epsteins island a decade ago, they've known they're above the law for a while

"the elites are bad" but also "stop being mean to billionaires" lol these people don't think that they're the elites

Here is Palantir CEO Alexander Karp’s 22-point manifesto: 1. Silicon Valley owes a moral debt to the country that made its rise possible. The engineering elite of Silicon Valley has an affirmative obligation to participate in the defense of the nation. 2. We must rebel against the tyranny of the apps. Is the iPhone our greatest creative if not crowning achievement as a civilization? The object has changed our lives, but it may also now be limiting and constraining our sense of the possible. 3. Free email is not enough. The decadence of a culture or civilization, and indeed its ruling class, will be forgiven only if that culture is capable of delivering economic growth and security for the public. 4. The limits of soft power, of soaring rhetoric alone, have been exposed. The ability of free and democratic societies to prevail requires something more than moral appeal. It requires hard power, and hard power in this century will be built on software. 5. The question is not whether A.I. weapons will be built; it is who will build them and for what purpose. Our adversaries will not pause to indulge in theatrical debates about the merits of developing technologies with critical military and national security applications. They will proceed. 6. National service should be a universal duty. We should, as a society, seriously consider moving away from an all-volunteer force and only fight the next war if everyone shares in the risk and the cost. 7. If a U.S. Marine asks for a better rifle, we should build it; and the same goes for software. We should as a country be capable of continuing a debate about the appropriateness of military action abroad while remaining unflinching in our commitment to those we have asked to step into harm's way. 8. Public servants need not be our priests. Any business that compensated its employees in the way that the federal government compensates public servants would struggle to survive. 9. We should show far more grace towards those who have subjected themselves to public life. The eradication of any space for forgiveness—a jettisoning of any tolerance for the complexities and contradictions of the human psyche—may leave us with a cast of characters at the helm we will grow to regret. 10. The psychologization of modern politics is leading us astray. Those who look to the political arena to nourish their soul and sense of self, who rely too heavily on their internal life finding expression in people they may never meet, will be left disappointed. 11. Our society has grown too eager to hasten, and is often gleeful at, the demise of its enemies. The vanquishing of an opponent is a moment to pause, not rejoice. 12. The atomic age is ending. One age of deterrence, the atomic age, is ending, and a new era of deterrence built on A.I. is set to begin. 13. No other country in the history of the world has advanced progressive values more than this one. The United States is far from perfect. But it is easy to forget how much more opportunity exists in this country for those who are not hereditary elites than in any other nation on the planet. 14. American power has made possible an extraordinarily long peace. Too many have forgotten or perhaps take for granted that nearly a century of some version of peace has prevailed in the world without a great power military conflict. At least three generations — billions of people and their children and now grandchildren — have never known a world war. 15. The postwar neutering of Germany and Japan must be undone. The defanging of Germany was an overcorrection for which Europe is now paying a heavy price. A similar and highly theatrical commitment to Japanese pacifism will, if maintained, also threaten to shift the balance of power in Asia. 16. We should applaud those who attempt to build where the market has failed to act. The culture almost snickers at Musk's interest in grand narrative, as if billionaires ought to simply stay in their lane of enriching themselves . . . . Any curiosity or genuine interest in the value of what he has created is essentially dismissed, or perhaps lurks from beneath a thinly veiled scorn. 17. Silicon Valley must play a role in addressing violent crime. Many politicians across the United States have essentially shrugged when it comes to violent crime, abandoning any serious efforts to address the problem or take on any risk with their constituencies or donors in coming up with solutions and experiments in what should be a desperate bid to save lives. 18. The ruthless exposure of the private lives of public figures drives far too much talent away from government service. The public arena—and the shallow and petty assaults against those who dare to do something other than enrich themselves—has become so unforgiving that the republic is left with a significant roster of ineffectual, empty vessels whose ambition one would forgive if there were any genuine belief structure lurking within. 19. The caution in public life that we unwittingly encourage is corrosive. Those who say nothing wrong often say nothing much at all. 20. The pervasive intolerance of religious belief in certain circles must be resisted. The elite's intolerance of religious belief is perhaps one of the most telling signs that its political project constitutes a less open intellectual movement than many within it would claim. 21. Some cultures have produced vital advances; others remain dysfunctional and regressive. All cultures are now equal. Criticism and value judgments are forbidden. Yet this new dogma glosses over the fact that certain cultures and indeed subcultures . . . have produced wonders. Others have proven middling, and worse, regressive and harmful. 22. We must resist the shallow temptation of a vacant and hollow pluralism. We, in America and more broadly the West, have for the past half century resisted defining national cultures in the name of inclusivity. But inclusion into what?

Sooner or later they’ll try to get you to ID yourself on the internet, and regulate the anonymity you currently have to say what you want on the internet. And if you say bad things, Elon will brick your Tesla so you can’t leave the state you’re in, and bill gates will forward your windows usage to the gestapo.

Almost everyone involved in PayPay was a weird libertarian. That being said, while Peter Thiel certainly likes getting his hands dirty in conservative politics, he does not like Musk in his business ventures. I've first hand seen Thiel maneuver to keep Musk out of a recent business investment. He does not want to Musk in his own backyard.

Correction - our government and populace has decided Rich people are above the law. "We've tried nothing to fix this problem, so its unfixable!" is the mantra these groups justify this state of affairs with for separate reasons.

They have always been above the law, and have always behaved like it. The primary differences in the modern world are: 1. The mind boggling concentration of wealth technology allows. 2. The visibility of their actions due to mass communication. 3. Their ability to leverage nations/politicians/etc. against each other due to their ability to easily operate nation-independent on a global scale.

Because they are above the law. If you can break a law and the punishment is a fine, its only a law for the poor.

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No matter how far back in time you want to go, those in power are not subject to the law. And money almost always equals power. The USA tricked Americans into thinking it was different. It aint. And you better do something about FoxNews. Every country should. That propaganda bullshit is easy to export anywhere.

And maybe ban Musk from the EU while they're at it?

Almost rather them arrest him the next time he steps on European soil, make a big deal about it and drag him into court.

No! Where am I supposed to find new OF models to follow without X.

Ban *every* Musk-adjacent product from all of Europe. F*** 'em.

Not sure about the exact laws in France, but in some other European states, you are free to ignore invites by the police, but not by the prosecutor or a judge.

'Voluntary Interview' is pretty much a euphemism for come on your own terms or prepare to be arrested at a much worse time for you.

Don't talk to the police applies to when you're alone with them. I cannot imagine someone like Musk would come to an interview without lawyers, so the recommendation does not apply. It applies even less so because it is specifically within the context of the US fifth amendment, which applies only to... the US.

When I saw "It's a classic" and "don't talk to the police" I completely thought I was about to watch this video https://youtu.be/6EI_RYIEtrg?si=mRHUnUnW9U8P6gW5

Why anybody would? It’s an invitation for a voluntary interview. Yeah, I don’t think so either.

This is a good way to get him to stay the hell out of France

I mean he’s a South African but I get your point

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't attend a voluntary interview, which is what it was, with law enforcement either.

Starting with the US 

>Countries should start banning US social media. You literally posted this on an American social media site...

But Black Dynamite, Listnook is a US social medium.

Of all the judiciaries you’d think he would have better sense than to annoy the French one, who saw no problems with putting their own former president behind bars. And rightfully so, of course.

He is. We’re yet to see him face any consequences

There is a reason many dignitaries from past American administrations (Bush II and Trump's) won't set foot in most European countries. There are international arrest warrants issued for them.

What do you mean buy?! it’s just a contest! /s

And how exactly would they force him? Do a Venezuela?