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SpicyLittleNuggie May 9, 2026 +28

What a gd nightmare

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jphamlore May 9, 2026 +37

Keeping them all on the ship is probably the way to get even more infected, even if they aren't now.

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Alystros May 9, 2026 +36

That's how a quarantine works - you assume all the people on the ship are already infected.

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jphamlore May 10, 2026 -8

Except some variants of this disease have a horrifying fatality rate?

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Alystros May 10, 2026 +21

And a quarantine prevents more people outside the ship from being exposed to it. It's appropriate in some circumstances and not others - I'm no diseases expert.

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Kirarifluff May 11, 2026 +1

and a 8 week incubation time, meaning they may already have had it for weeks now and we are just now seeing it break out

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KingAso88 May 9, 2026 +30

Keep them pass the incubation period ffs

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wynveen May 9, 2026 +52

Just keep them on the f****** ship.

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 +8

can't. Human rights and all

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GladCreme8654 May 9, 2026 +17

Guess screw the human rights of 8 billion people to save a handful fs 😞

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 +12

That's up to the countries those people are from. Spain got things arranged for its citizens.

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Whooshless May 9, 2026 +1

Shouldn’t be. Just add a pandemic section to UNCLOS next time it's up for renewal ffs

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 -6

Far right will lose their shit again in such a case.

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wynveen May 9, 2026 -19

IE: let it spread across Europe. uSA bAD

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 +4

USA already has people from the ship back home. Have they boarded them on a ship yet?

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jcw99 May 9, 2026 +6

You know you can just quarantine the people in your home country right? That way they are continuously exposed to the source AND you can protect everyone else...

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ApricotNo5051 May 9, 2026 +4

Yes but some are going to self isolate after initial testing etc and we know from the past people can't be trusted to self isolate especially for 8 weeks.

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jcw99 May 9, 2026 -7

Which is much lower risk once you've tested them to show they are unlikely to be a carrier in the first place. Also unlike previous requirements for self isolation, the number of people involved is so small you can actually somewhat monitor this.

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ApricotNo5051 May 9, 2026 -5

I don't care. This virus may have mutated already since a few people have caught it already. If this goes wrong we are fucked. Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst

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SafeKaracter May 10, 2026 +2

Lol the fear mongering

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ApricotNo5051 May 10, 2026

Yep. Thats probably what the 6 million dead from covid and dead and sick people from the ship loled about. And all the health officials in full PPE gear visiting and evacuating the ship are probably loling and loling non stop at the fear mongering too as are the residents of the canary island and passengers on the previous flights who sat by possibly infected people. If this turns into a pandemic it's idiots like you who will have caused it.

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 -1

People ahve been catching it for years, previous outbreak was in 2018

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ApricotNo5051 May 9, 2026 +4

And the amount of people that got infected by it doubled in Argentina last year. It may have mutated. Why take the risk when you can be sure its not going to spread after 8 weeks quarantine.

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 +3

We are not taking the risk. The passengers are set for evacuation from the boat and to their countries, where they can be quarantined or whatever their countries decide.

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Martoxic May 10, 2026 +3

human rights is to protect the other 8 billion people as well.

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No_Conversation_9325 May 10, 2026

I'm not arguing that, just telling the reason.

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Didactic_Tactics_45 May 9, 2026 +15

Dumb question, but did we learn anything from the last one or are we still just winging it like last time?

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Shinokiba- May 9, 2026 -31

Hantavirus isn't spread human to human, it's spread rat to human

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TheWhiteOwl23 May 9, 2026 +24

Didn't they discover this is the strain that does pass human to human?

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Shinokiba- May 9, 2026 -13

That is absolutely correct. However, it's only one strand that requires prolonged contact with the infected person's bodily fluids. It's transmission is even slower than HIV

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Thurak0 May 9, 2026 +7

Well, with several known cases already it would not hurt to be a little bit careful with this assessment.

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Hey_HaveAGreatDay May 10, 2026 +3

Slower than HIV is not the positive position that you think it is

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DesignerCorner3322 May 9, 2026 +21

Keep them on the ship. Quarantine, and airdrop supplies, and find some doctors willing to risk exposure to take care of those people. Sending planes to pick up a couple people puts pilots and other staff at risk, then when they land - unless they quarantine them all immediately its gonna spread.

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MeltingMandarins May 9, 2026 +9

Yeah, it’s not a great plan. Australia has 5 passengers to evacuate and it’s a 30 hour plane trip by the fastest normal routes. (22 hours if direct, but there’s aren’t many planes that can fly that far.) Australia is probably the worst example, but the amount of resources required to move all the passengers to so many different home countries is just ridiculous.

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 -11

Australia holds responsibility for its citizens. They can't abandon them

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wynveen May 9, 2026 +7

Keeping them in the ship is not abandoning them

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 -10

Ships don't have ICU needed in case if they get sick

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wynveen May 9, 2026 -2

You’re assuming each person needs an ICU. Health care professionals can go onto the ship and establish resources to take care of them.

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 -4

Hantavirus' mortality rate is 32-38% ICU implied

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toughtacos May 9, 2026 +1

I think that’s the death rate.

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 +2

oh yes, I was intending to write mortality, no idea how I ended up with survival, but in any case ICU is implied

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MeltingMandarins May 9, 2026 +1

Practically speaking there’s no way to physically get them here without involving multiple crews and several other countries where the plane will need to stop. It increases risk rather than decreasing it. Simpler to quarantine on the boat, where they already are. That’s not abandoning them. It’s just being practical. (And I’d think exactly the same if it was 150 Europeans on a cruise outside an Aussie city. No reason there should be 150 long haul flights for 150 evacs. Just quarantine where you are.) Alternatively, cut a deal with another advanced country (like Germany) so the passengers can fly there to quarantine. 4hrs is a reasonable distance to ferry isolated patients for a medical evacuation.

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 +4

What? Special military evacuation flights still exist, that's exactly how the Spanish passengers are going to a military hospital in Madrid. Edit: No, don't strike deals to make it someone else's problems, fly special flights and suck up the costs.

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MeltingMandarins May 9, 2026 -2

How are you not understanding that flying 30+ hours is different to flying 2.5 hours?

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 +2

Quarantine gear and planes exist. Thats how. Alternatively, Australia could’ve made a deal to get the tin can to sail there, but they didn’t.

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MeltingMandarins May 9, 2026

There are no planes that can fly 30 hours without stopping in a third country to refuel and having multiple crews. Also, if strictly quarantined, the passengers should be in isolation pods. Those look like a clear bag around a hospital bed. You cannot put someone in one for 30 hours. Short trips only. Also can’t have crew wearing space suits for 30 hours. It’s not about money. It’s the fact it’s increasing the risk rather than decreasing it.

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 +1

Then maybe Australia should ban their citizens from going on cruises in tin-can Petri dishes? Like I said, why should it be a problem of any other country?

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MaximumAd9779 May 9, 2026

You must not remember how Australia handled its foreign nationals during Covid.

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 +1

So you want other countries to take increased risk because of that?

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MaximumAd9779 May 9, 2026 -2

No not at all! I have no idea what the “right” strategy for this scenario is, I’m just pointing out that Australia all but abandoned \*a lot\* of their countrymen during Covid.

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 +2

And that totally sucks, I agree

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wynveen May 9, 2026

This, f****** this.

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Obvious-Cupcake2118 May 9, 2026 +6

Stupid. Quarantine. Think real hard about this word’s meaning.

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H4X4NX May 9, 2026 +6

I'm getting de ja vu

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Federal-Ferret-970 May 9, 2026 +8

De ja flu 🤣

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SafeKaracter May 10, 2026 +1

That’s not how you write that

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Jansantos999 May 9, 2026 +5

The first attempt at this by the Dutch government last week, resulted in failure. Something with the plain's quarantine systems that broke down.. maybe we should prepare ourselves for another round of worldwide lockdowns..

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 +2

Do you have a link to that?

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Jansantos999 May 9, 2026 +1

It's in Dutch: https://www.rd.nl/artikel/1148183-evacuatievliegtuig-met-hantapatient-heeft-technische-problemen

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 +1

Wait, Netherlands found more Hantavirus patients? Didn't they fly all 3 a few days ago with refuelling in The Canaries because Morocco didn't let them in?

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Jansantos999 May 9, 2026 +1

I don't have direct link for you aren't news sources from around the world reporting people with the hanta virus? The Dutch and English people on the first cruise had something called the Andes strain or something. Cases are reported in Spain and even in Israel but those are not the Andes strain I read yesterday. I'm sorry but I don't have time to check everything I read.

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 +2

No, they aren't. Only the ones who left the cruise ship prior are being tracked. There have been people reported with contact with the Dutch widow, but so far none of the has hantavirus.

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 +2

You said you have no time to check, I gave you an update. No need to thank me.

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 +2

Chill, I'll save you from myself, just stop spreading misinformation

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SafeKaracter May 10, 2026 +1

I wish

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burgundytouch May 9, 2026 +3

Hey i've seen this one !

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onehotca May 11, 2026 +1

Saw the UK plan on the BBC… 72 hours??? And then home quarantine!!!… why?… because they are worried about the “mental health“ of these folks….Remember how selfish people were with lockdown compliance?…. doesn't inspire confidence… this virus has a 30-40% mortality rate…. And the people who were in this cruise ship were not poor…. Fares were $10-25k pp… so i would expect that they would operate with the “entitlement factor”….

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AdSevere1274 May 9, 2026 +1

Gene Hackman's wife died of Hanta virus and she did not suspect it was serious. Pay attention to symptoms I guess. They say that human to human transmission is rare. So did they have rodents on the ship?

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nicuramar May 9, 2026 +6

It was a different hantavirus. This is the Andes virus, but yeah.

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 +2

They say they couldn't find any rodents.

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AdSevere1274 May 9, 2026 +2

Just checked and Andes virus strain transmits human-to-human and that is what was on the ship.

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nicuramar May 9, 2026 +4

It’s not a strain, it’s a species.

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AdSevere1274 May 9, 2026 +1

Interesting.. didn't know that .. so it has multiple strains within Andes >**species** of virus that contains multiple distinct **strains**.

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 +2

Yes I know. My country has it covered in the news.

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SafeKaracter May 10, 2026 +1

They need cats

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Martoxic May 10, 2026 +1

we going abroad with this one again.

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tugffjj May 9, 2026 +1

deja vu, resident evil irl

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moschles May 9, 2026 -14

But why would European states be doing that? Listnookors told me hanta is only spread via the most intimate of contact between people. *Unless... ??*

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nicuramar May 9, 2026 +4

Don’t get your information from Listnook. Which is also why I am not listening to your theories.

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No_Conversation_9325 May 9, 2026 +1

The Netherlands sticks to it already, so who knows

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