Turns out maybe getting ICE into airports was the plan all along? I dunno 🤷♂️ somebody prove me wrong please
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gosumage3 days ago
+2309
Yes, it's in Project 2025.
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ConditionTall90743 days ago
+479
I was hoping I would be wrong but thank you
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coffee_ape3 days ago
+720
It’s on page 158-159 IIRC. . I memorized the page numbers just to say this.
[Word for Word it tells you that they want to privatize TSA](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25316605-project-2025/?mode=document&q=TSA#document/p191)
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spaceistheplacetobe3 days ago
+150
So what’s next? What else is the plan? Read the document once, but so much has been going on, my brain feels frozen and unable to process what the hell is happening, in real life and on paper
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powerchoice3 days ago
+311
“so much has been going on, my brain feels frozen and unable to process what the hell is happening, in real life and on paper”.
This is called the shock doctrine and is a major part of the MAGA strategy. It’s a psychological blitzkrieg. Basically, make rapid successive changes to overload the brain so the population doesn’t have time to process it and collectively revolt.
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ilikechihuahuasdood3 days ago
+112
Also to beat the courts. A shit ton of what they’re doing is illegal, but courts move slowly.
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Greggs883 days ago
+55
Every once in a while I'll randomly remember that it's only been 4 months since we stormed Venezuela and captured Maduro.
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khoawala3 days ago
+51
The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism is a 2007 book by Naomi Klein that argues free-market policies are implemented by exploiting crises like wars, coups, and natural disasters, a strategy she calls "disaster capitalism". Klein traces this tactic, rooted in Milton Friedman's economic theories, to the 1973 Chilean coup and shows how it's used to push through radical privatization and deregulation when populations are disoriented and unable to resist.
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gangy863 days ago
+6
Wow this is wild will have to give this a read lol thanks!
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Lost_Afropick3 days ago
+1
It's essential reading for the modern era I find. Naomi Klein is a great writer and commentator
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TOMC_throwaway0000003 days ago
+16
They’re a little over halfway done, so they’re making pretty good progress
https://www.project2025.observer/en
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coffee_ape3 days ago
+23
Bide your time. Make a network of friends that have the same mentality, and just bunker down until the orange one dies of his illness. Then the real party begins afterwards.
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CrazeRage3 days ago
+64
Short sighted if you think it ends there.
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GildedAgeV23 days ago
+48
Fascism never ends, it just ebbs and flows. It is true though that this mad king has, by his own choice, no successor. No one to challenge him.
When he goes, there will be a very interesting power vacuum. His style and brand are what's holding the right wing coalition together. I don't think Vance or anyone else can pull that off. They could consolidate behind someone new, but that'll take time. They could fracture along the current fault lines. We just don't know.
But that real party the coffee_ape is alluding to is the work of combating fascism in a post Trump world. That means consequences for his allies on a grand scale, if we want this to improve. It's just the beginning.
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Different_Victory_893 days ago
+1
Thought he already coronated Vance? He has no chance of holding this shit together. All I know is most elections since he took office turned blue! If it doesn't, I call shenanigans!
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Bovronius3 days ago
+19
Did you ignore the part where they said that's when the real party begins?
You don't think they meant a party with like lil paper hats and cake do you?
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DrFunkenstein933 days ago
+12
Once he dies it does leave an insane power vacuum that can be completely discombobulated. The heritage foundation is completly shortsighted.
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ilikechihuahuasdood3 days ago
+7
Nobody has the same cult of personality on the right. Couch f***** can’t keep those loons in line.
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DramaticDirection2923 days ago
+4
Yeah this doesn’t die with Trump. The heritage foundation goes deep in the Republican Party
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Worldly_Anybody_92193 days ago
+7
If there was ever a document that deserves to be printed on toilet paper, it's Project 2025. What absolute trash.
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Bakedfresh4203 days ago
+11
How is privatizing TSA remotely the same as putting armed government thugs in airports? I’m fine having airline workers be from private companies, who gives a shit if lines take a little longer or whatever compared to having armed immigration officers in airports.
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seeeee3 days ago
+14
You put the armed government thugs there so the public will say “why are my tax dollars going to this nonsense?”
This causes people to accept and even embrace TSA privatization plans that feel like a return to normalcy, while hiding the reality of situation and intent. Case in point.
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Bakedfresh4203 days ago
+6
“Why are my tax dollars putting thugs in the airport instead of paying the workers that are standing right there?”
ICE being at the airports isn’t making anyone say man I wish the TSA was gone and was run by a private company. They have nothing to do with each other.
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BigBadZord3 days ago
+46
I wonder how long, like in how many weeks/months, they are going to expand the 100 mile Border Enforcement Zone to include international airports.
From the article you linked:
"Federal regulations define that “reasonable distance” to generally be within 100 miles of land and coastal borders. (Airports are not covered in the 100-mile zone, as they serve as ports of entry for international travelers.)"
I'm wondering when they are going to actually codify it into federal regulations.
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DJ_Nx323 days ago
+3
ICE in airports reminds me of Half Life 2 when you get off the train.
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ArmadilloForsaken4583 days ago
+2
ICE are his people, whereas TSA has their own hiring protocols. Anyway if ICE is still the ones in charge there instead of TSA, the World Cup is going to be a complete mess
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Fit-Let81753 days ago
+1
Seems like soon, even the age-old song "Hail to the Chief" will be changed to "Heil to the Chief."
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5kyl3r3 days ago
+1594
this will surely be great for the travel and tourism industry in the US /s
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secretlyhumanami3 days ago
+644
Honestly, traveling to the US is getting closer and closer to travelling to North Korea.
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FloridianRobot3 days ago
+382
Honestly, why the f*** would anyone willingly visit the US right now? Getting closer, haha.
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The_Lapsed_Pacifist3 days ago
+115
I keep getting ads in my YouTube feed about relocating to America. Feel like there should be a disclaimer like *now only 60% chance of winding up in a concentration camp
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Numerous_Photograph93 days ago
+14
Guess they need to boost their numbers by getting immigrants to come here.
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BlindPaintByNumbers3 days ago
+11
They're only interested in the right color of immigrant.
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The_Lapsed_Pacifist3 days ago
+3
Oh the people in the ad photos are like super white. They didn’t go as far as to make them all blonde and blue eyed but…
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PersonalApocalips3 days ago
+18
I live in the US, and don't want to visit.
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forbhip3 days ago
+4
I’m from the UK and work with a lot of Europeans, I don’t know a single person who would holiday to the US right now. My cousin has cancelled her family trip to Disney World Florida.
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inspectoroverthemine3 days ago
+3
Yeah- I have a coworker in the UK who has a trip to disney world his family has been planning for more than a year. He's coming to terms with canceling it. His wife (a UK citizen) is Thai, and they can't risk entering the US with their children and being abducted because they fail the paper bag test.
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MrSpaceJuice3 days ago
+11
I’m a Canadian citizen and even I don’t want to go to the states.
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The_Dragon_Redone3 days ago
+5
But without a regular influx of foreigners to deport how will ICE agents stay employed?
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hoppyandbitter3 days ago
+8
They’ll start deporting “undesirables” soon enough. It’ll eventually stop being “who is legally American” and start being “who deserves to be American”
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Dreamlion_Inc3 days ago
+63
Everyday I’m starting to think the dissuasion from touring the US is the point
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redheadedandbold3 days ago
+37
Trump isn't working for us, he's working for Putin. All of this works for Putin!
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therealruin3 days ago
+21
It terrifies me how many people do not see this. Everything that’s happening right now is the result of a foreign coup of our democratically elected government and they are trying to tear down all symbols and systems that represent Americanism.
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KDR_11k3 days ago
+11
The Heritage Foundation isn't from Russia, this is what American regressives want. Russia simply knows that giving them what they want is how you wreck America.
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therealruin3 days ago
+6
Which is why they work with the folks behind groups like the Heritage Foundation to overthrow the government and deliver the Regressive “dream.” They also contribute heavily to the propaganda that floods American screens and airwaves that convinces low education voters the Regressive “dream” somehow advances their interests. They’re using the worst of us against us.
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Big_Tie_32453 days ago
+7
No way! Youre saying the people who don’t want any immigrants here, are also not big on foreign tourists? You almost sound like Youre saying it’s just the foreign part that’s the issue.
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Dreamlion_Inc3 days ago
+8
This administration made a concentrated effort to immigrate white South Africans to the US
I should’ve clarified. It’s less about immigration and tourism and more about who are engaging in either of those things
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redloeb3 days ago
+62
My workplace grade travelling to America on the same threat level as Pakistan.
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LumiereGatsby3 days ago
+4
I go for work. I bring business from there to my country.
Otherwise? No avoid. It’s a changed world.
Philly and Chicago and Florida and Kansas and Minneapolis are all places I go and all of them are off and spoiling.
Boston was normal. Seems like the last stand of normalcy in numbers that can’t be assailed as easily.
Never has the differences been so pronounced between America and the rest of the west.
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Stranger2Luv3 days ago
+2
Huh what happened in Kansas?
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winky98273 days ago
+2
Tornado, duh. Forgetful toto.
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legendz4113 days ago
+43
I have a trip planned for later in the year and we are opting to drive 7 hours vs take a 90min flight because f*** this government.
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LumiereGatsby3 days ago
+37
My dude border crossings are awful if you are coming from outside the USA.
I live by the WA border. It’s terrible. Invasive. Scary. Not a good idea
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Eupraxes3 days ago
+6
Why even go in the first place?
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Head_Asparagus_77033 days ago
+2
Are you really saying f*** them if you're still going?
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Comfortable-Pea-13123 days ago
+15
Something something...World Cup.
Stay home, not worth it.
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Turisan3 days ago
+3
International tourism is down ~20% already.
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homiej4203 days ago
+3
The world cup is going to be a DISASTER
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BackgroundStay56053 days ago
+2
My parents always visited the US in winter, this year they went to Costa Rica and made sure to have direct flights. They're white Evangelical Christians that drank the Republican Kool-Aid from Canada and even they won't go to the US and think Trump has gone nuts.
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boot2skull3 days ago
+2
Hopefully the FIFA peace prize w***** impacts the World Cup’s U.S. games.
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Toadfinger3 days ago
+953
Can't Republicans get anything done without pushing a panic button? Americans commit way more crimes than the immigrants. It's time to move forward into reality already!
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crystal_dinosaur3 days ago
+404
Yeah, I’m not condoning murder in any way but Fox goes apeshit when they find one non-citizen that murders someone and describes it as the country being under attack. Meanwhile there are thousands of other murders being committed in every other demographic and political corner of the country and barely a peep.
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GribbitsGoblinPI3 days ago
+279
Trump raped kids and stole confidential information, Fox bends over backwards to defend him.
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chehsu3 days ago
+83
So do his supporters. Yet they think LGBTQ people like me are the culprits.
They are so f****** stupid it actually pisses me the f*** off.
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Little_View_66593 days ago
+22
It’s genuinely just paranoia and racism. Just extreme fear of anyone that doesn’t fit into a neat little box.
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chehsu3 days ago
+12
Would love to know where it stems from but it doesn't really matter that much because I'm never going to try to find common ground with them anyway.
No, I'm not being divisive.
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Basic-Complex21783 days ago
+11
Iodine and lead. These are the two biggest culprits. Lead was banned like 50 years past when it shouldve been here, and we are one of the few countries that DOESNT mandate iodized table salt. Lead and iodine deficiency lead to lower intelligence. Combine that with gutting education and you get a couple generations of straight up dumb fucks.
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ProfessionalOil20143 days ago
+15
It’s slavery. That’s the answer. People will scoff and deny it or whatever, but that’s the answer.
Conservatism in America is the direct descendant of the confederacy. The harsh laws that criminalize existing come from laws passed to put freed black people to work in prisons. The constitution giving more power to less populated states, that was a compromise with slave states who threatened to leave before the constitution was written.
The United States is still dealing with the original sin of slavery. Almost everything can be tied back to it.
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Spire_Citron3 days ago
+39
It's amazing how righteous they can get about it while shrugging off anything that falls outside of the specific things they care about. But what a monster you are if you don't want to avenge those specific deaths by punishing uninvolved third parties.
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Drostan_S3 days ago
+18
Republicans be like "I don't care if Trump raped babies because I hate minorities" and still act like they're the f****** victims.
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Spire_Citron3 days ago
+2
Yeah, it's amazing the heinous shit they'll say and then act like anyone believes them when they pretend like they have empathy and are concerned for some moral cause and are truly shocked that you don't care enough. And 'enough' is always enough to do something hateful to someone else, never to actually help and support anyone who's suffering.
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Drostan_S3 days ago
+2
There is no hardship Republicans are not willing to endure, no sacrifice they are unwilling to make, so long as a minority group suffers just a little bit more.
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timeslider3 days ago
+19
Reminds me of how they treat EVs. One battery fire and it's a national issue. Meanwhile, gas-powered vehicles catch fire everyday and not a peep
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pewsquare3 days ago
+1
I think its because most gasoline fires are absolute non issues. You can put it out with a handheld fire extinguisher. If however a li/ion battery catches fire, you are in big ass mess.
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1917he3 days ago
+2
I'm sure you have a fire extinguisher in your car then since it's so easy. Oh wait.
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Comfortable_Gur83113 days ago
+3
I thought everyone did.
You can get a kidde brand ABC at harbor freight during their sales for 20 bucks.
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pewsquare3 days ago
+4
I do. Its not required by law, but I work around trucks and heavy machinery which do need them by law, so I just got used to having a small extinguisher in my own car.
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BrianWantsTruth3 days ago
+17
> thousands of other murders being committed in every other demographic
There’s nothing more American than lawfully killing another American. 🫡
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_Nightbreaker_3 days ago
+19
I mean, that's part of what the U.S. was founded on. Just look at the treatment of Native-Americans: from outright genocidal policies to forced sterilization and abortions.
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Phteven_j3 days ago
+2
Then it isn’t murder.
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tarekd193 days ago
+1
It doesn't even have to be murder. They treat genuine car accidents involving immigrants the same way.
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quats5553 days ago
+10
It’s almost like the fearmongering they do to gain power doesn’t have anything to do with reality. Hmm.
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chehsu3 days ago
+14
I will NEVER understand what makes republikkkunts so afraid of immigrants and POC... if anything we should be afraid of THEM.
And no it doesn't seem like they can get anything done without panicking.
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templethot3 days ago
+3
Bondi’s DOJ actually declined tens of thousands of criminal case references, including from the FBI, in order to prioritize ICE cases and deportations.
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AspiringAdonis3 days ago
+4
That’s the fun part: it’s those same republicans committing the crimes. The entire party just wipes their asses with the rule of law ever since their shit stained messiah ascended the throne. The sooner people stop seeing them as politicians and start accepting that they are complicit to war crimes and criminals in their own right, that’s when we can move forward into reality.
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Kyosji3 days ago
+243
..how? You can't get on an airplane without proving you're a citizen or have travel visas.... Who are they exactly arresting?
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GarbagePailGrrrl3 days ago
+84
You don’t need papers like that to fly domestic
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swartz773 days ago
+59
You need a Real ID or passport. So you still need documentation
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GarbagePailGrrrl3 days ago
+17
Are they finally requiring REAL ID? If so makes sense otherwise I feel like ppl were still paying extra to be let through.
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Exciting-Hat59573 days ago
+19
No they’re not you just have to pay extra, flew last week with a friend who didn’t have realID
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i_speak_the_truf3 days ago
+5
Yeah but it doesn’t need to be a US passport. The lady arrested recently at SFO used her Guatemalan passport as ID to fly but she had a deportation order without a valid US Visa.
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txwoodslinger3 days ago
+2
You do not
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Shaquarington_Bithus3 days ago
+3
You can use non US IDs
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Juan_PH_163 days ago
+1
I assume Passports without a visa would be suspicious
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Pinklady7773 days ago
+12
You know that they have been grabbing brown people regardless of status.
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linds3603 days ago
+5
Family and I had to travel through LaGuardia this weekend. It’s the first time I’ve ever been in the physical presence of an ICE agent and my body almost couldn’t handle it. I don’t think I’ve ever been in a room before with someone I so viscerally hated and it shook me hard.
The agents were there to check IDs before you go through security so we handed over our licenses and when the ICE agent handed them back my husband said “thank you.” I said “f*** you.”
I’m not writing this comment from Venezuela, so there’s that.
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inspectoroverthemine3 days ago
+2
no quarter, no peace
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kstargate-4253 days ago
+1
Theres a good amount of stories out there of tourists being nabbed at the airport while here legally
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idryss_m3 days ago
+1
No one said the arrests were valid.
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A_Nonny_Muse3 days ago
+434
Block access to the airports, courts, hospitals, and outreach programs. Limit access to the legal system. Then exploit, enslave, degrade, dehumanize.
This is how you create an underclass, a c**** labor pool too afraid to stand up for themselves. Who benefits? Mainly the employers - or enslavers. But the rest of us also benefit from their c**** labor.
Welcome to America - we never really abolished slavery. We just folded it into society and call it a free labor market. "Free" having a double entendre.
If we really wanted to end illegal immigration, we would punish those who employ them. We don't. Proof enough that it's not really about stopping illegal immigration - it's about turning them into a c****, easily exploited labor pool.
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Th1rte3n13343 days ago
+98
>ICE detention centers, particularly those run by for-profit private companies like GEO Group and CoreCivic, have long utilized a "$1-a-day" program where detainees perform essential labor.
This is framed by those that support these detention centers as teaching detainees how to perform essential basic life skills because they could not possibly learn this stuff out there in the wild(society) that we call a country. This is essentially the same way that people in the past used to justify slavery.
Eventually when these people are “freed” they will be hired for c**** labor and it will be framed as a win for people’s freedom when it was the U.S. that created these circumstances in the first place. This sounds awfully familiar to another instance that occurred in the U.S. a couple centuries ago.
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A_Nonny_Muse3 days ago
+37
Meanwhile, ex-convicts are barred from most high paying jobs for life. Despite what proponents claim, the intent is to keep them in poverty, desperate, easily exploited. "Do the time and be forgiven" has never been the case. Once convicted, punished for life, is more the reality.
Reminds me of the guy who served his time for being a drug lord. He wasn't violent. But he got a job as a transportation expert at some company. He successfully argued that his experience moving drugs qualified him as a transportation organizational expert. People claimed he should have been barred from any such job because it's profiting off his past crimes. Again, once convicted, forever punished. I'm of a mind that once you do the time, you should be totally free. To work as anything, anywhere, for anyone. Same for voting, weapons ownership, etc.. Once you do the time, it should be the same as never having done a crime. But you know... I'm not in charge.
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xxx_poonslayer693 days ago
+13
I mostly agree with you. But depending on the crime, maybe weapon ownership rights shouldn't be reestablished. and perhaps registered sex offenders shouldn't be allowed anywhere near children.
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A_Nonny_Muse3 days ago
+7
I think sex offenders should be treated differently. I'm thinking more mental institutions than prisons. And "sentencing" being a bit more open. They let one out when they think one is cured and won't re-offend.
And not just pedos, all sex offenders. The crime is pretty heinous, imho.
As for weapons, I believe in second chances. But twice is enough, even for my tolerant liberal ass.
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xxx_poonslayer693 days ago
+5
You know how gay conversion therapy is illegitimate in part because you can't change a person's sexual orientation since it's not a choice? I don't think mental therapy is going to stop pedos from being attracted to children. Rapists are very low in empathy. Would they engage in mental therapy in good faith? Can they be trusted to rejoin society without the label following them? Prisoners don't like being in prison. They're going to say what they need to say to get out of detainment. Mental institutions aren't going to be able to ensure that a person is unlikely to reoffend. And in America at least, we don't really have mental institutions like you're alluding to. We don't have asylums anymore. America has prisons instead.
Why does someone that was convicted of aggravated assault, murder, domestic violence etc need access to a gun? I don't think they need access to guns. Just like I don't think repeat DUI offenders need access to a driver's license.
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Luvs_to_drink3 days ago
+1
you need to be able to drive in America. Cities are built specifically with the idea that everyone can drive in mind. It's awful and we should have better public transit but not being able to drive is basically guaranteeing poverty.
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xxx_poonslayer693 days ago
+1
Ok "Luvs_to_drink", that's why I said repeat DUIs. If you don't learn you lesson the first time, your poverty is less important than the lives you endanger
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rail_bird3 days ago
+1
Who is the drug lord? His drug enterprise was comprised of non violent minions? Would love to read about this.
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RoughVirtual16263 days ago
+1
I mean plenty of corporations will ban criminals. Like would a bank employ a person convicted of embezzlement or defrauding customers? Similar to jobs where you interact with the public, there are laws preventing violent people from doing so as they have access to vulnerable people. Criminals are stigmatized, and for good reason.
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red_sutter3 days ago
+65
World Cup and the Olympics are officially cooked
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richardNthedickheads3 days ago
+22
Yup. New head of DHS is trying to stop all International flights to sanctuary cities like New York, Chicago etc
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Zardotab3 days ago
+4
🥇 Just give a Trump another peace medal and he'll probably call them off. Make it bigger this time.
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WarbossTodd3 days ago
+118
Gee what a shocker. ICE in the airports wasn’t about TSA safety but about arresting more brown people.
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[deleted]3 days ago
+39
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trashmoneyxyz3 days ago
+10
Oh hey the Congo, my african slave ancestors came from there. All my forebearers before me will be really happy to know that after everything we fought for I might end up literally back to slavery square one in the place my line began.
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danorc3 days ago
+36
The tips: "Hey man, there's a brown person over there"
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FountainXFairfax3 days ago
+20
so let’s all skip this world cup yeah? it’s not worth it
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throwraW23 days ago
+46
Can’t imagine why anyone thinking flying would be a good idea if you’re here on unapproved status.
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Bloodhound2093 days ago
+28
You know they're grabbing people with legal status as well, right?
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aflyingsquanch3 days ago
+7
In a few weeks, I'm driving from Denver to Dallas rather than flying just to avoid the annoyance of it all.
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Western-Corner-4313 days ago
+11
They are part of the same agency
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aflyingsquanch3 days ago
+6
Same department, not agency. And up until recently those agencies weren't super into working together to that extent.
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Western-Corner-4313 days ago
+1
They’re both under DHS. Whatever a****** is in charge now, they’re all comingling their bullshit.
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aflyingsquanch3 days ago
+2
Yes, I'm well aware. Hence the words "same department" in my comment.
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Poundaflesh3 days ago
+8
But are any of them criminals?
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Buddhas_Warrior3 days ago
+27
And how many of those 800 were very dangerous criminals? How many followed the rules? How many were citizens?
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Initial_Hedgehog_6313 days ago
+10
Wow federal agencies working together? That never happens.
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CaptainTemuTeemo3 days ago
+2
They all need to be punished the 1776 way. People have died because of their stupidity, they should not be shown any mercy. When all is said and done, I want these people to all pay the ultimate price for ruining the country. Treason is the HIGHEST crime, and that is what they are guilty of, not even mentioning the Epstein files. They MUST be made examples of.
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tayswampflorida3 days ago
+6
The tips "this person is brown!"
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Stinkstinkerton3 days ago
+7
Fascism is the new profit opportunity for corporations.
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After-Violinist-74853 days ago
+3
so first they say they are only going after bad hombres and then completely take advantage of their authority. And then they lie again and say that ICE was only there to help TSA due to the shutdowns. And then we find out that they were once again taking advantage of their authority. This administration is one for the books. I cannot wait until each and every one of these people are in jail after the end of this administration.
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+3
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Fit-Let81753 days ago
+2
I'm no expert, but I think that this might not be the best way for the US to encourage tourism.
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ViolettaQueso3 days ago
+2
Aaaand they are not legit law enforcement operating in a legal jurisdiction… but ok…this is how we do racism now.
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IcyWhereas23133 days ago
+2
The US has a responsibility to enforce immigration laws, this is not negotiable.
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ilovefacebook3 days ago
+1
just for clarity, the article points to data gathered before ice was sent to "back up" the tsa agents last month.
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