So, some unknown entity from within their borders has been shoplifting their missiles and attacking their neighbors with them? Yeah, I don’t think anybody’s buying that.
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Filthy_JoeyMar 17, 2026
+7
I am not saying it is true, but if tomorrow it was revealed that Mossad did it, I would not be surprised. They already proved that they are capable of unimaginable things, like pagers in Lebanon.
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Violet-Rose-BirdyMar 17, 2026
It’s not hard to tell where the drones are from or the direction they come from.
Also, contradictory messages as they previously admitted hitting Gulf States.
I’m against this war, but the regime is nutty (not as crazy as genocidal Israel, but they are still crazy) and launching drones at the Gulf is on par.
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Filthy_JoeyMar 17, 2026
With how big Iran is and how messy it is there, don’t you believe that it is possible to infiltrate Iranian territory and launch a drone?
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Violet-Rose-BirdyMar 17, 2026
If it was 10-20 drones or even 50, sure, but not to this extent.
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Curious_Researcher09Mar 16, 2026
+103
If Iran didn't attack the Saudi oil strikes, then who is?
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BadHombreSinNombreMar 16, 2026
+77
It’s easy enough to verify Iranian manufacture of the weapons used.
But the list of non-Iran dishonest actors who stand to gain, is long. At the top of it for me is actually Russia, who have a long track record of stuff like this.
OTOH, I still think it was Iran because they’ve been denying attacks left and right even when the pieces of the weapons found basically say “made in Iran.”
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MelodicPudding2557Mar 16, 2026
+11
Also, the current state of affairs in Iran makes it exceedingly plausible.
Operational and political high command has largely been decapitated, and operations have transitioned into their ‘mosaic defense’, where command over forces are fractured into local commands acting independently of central direction. As such, they’ve displayed a pretty erratic set of actions that often contradict what the president (really a high level administrator rather than a director) say.
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Filthy_JoeyMar 17, 2026
+5
> Russia
Lmao, sure. Think again, who stands to gain from Iran being attacked by as many countries as possible?
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Marcus_Aurelius71Mar 16, 2026
-9
Anyone can slap on "made in Iran" sticker on their weapons. Lets remember that the US LUCAS drone looks identical to the Shahed. Hmmm
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BadHombreSinNombreMar 16, 2026
+5
Yeah by the word “basically” I was summarizing more complex forensic evidence of Iranian manufacture. It’s very hard to hide where something comes from. Especially something that can be tracked as it approaches by a multitude of defense systems.
I could entertain an “it’s Russia” scenario because Russia has Shaheds but they’d also probably have to launch basically from inside Iran and if that’s happening, well…is Russia directly in the war then? Would be a very bad move if it came to light.
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Such-NebulaMar 16, 2026
+1
How about a state that has the most to gain from this (Israel)?
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BadHombreSinNombreMar 17, 2026
+3
Which would have to obtain Iranian drones and then send them unnoticed over hundreds of miles of Arab territory in the middle of a war where every air defense is specifically looking for drones and would be able to tell they came from Israel and not Iran? And absolutely no one notices?
This is one of the dumbest conspiracy theories imaginable to be duped into by the IRGC. Whether you’re falling for their BS or knowingly spreading it on their behalf, do better.
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whatproblemsMar 16, 2026
+8
there’s decentralized units maybe some want more war
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Fedora_Million_AnkleMar 16, 2026
+30
People who stand to gain from oil industy disruption.
Follow the money.
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Jest_out_for_a_RipMar 16, 2026
+28
So, Iran? In more ways than one. No one has more to gain than them.
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Gohab2001Mar 16, 2026
+9
Afaik, Iran sells its oil mainly to china and at a discounted rate. Russia and gulf countries benefit far more imo.
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avds_wisp_techMar 16, 2026
+4
>Iran sells its oil mainly to china
Yep. China accounts for roughly 90% of Iran's oil exports.
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MelodicPudding2557Mar 16, 2026
+1
The Gulf States are not benefiting from this at all. If anything, it’s significantly disrupted oil exports.
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TraditionalGap1Mar 16, 2026
+12
No one?
Are you sure?
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Jest_out_for_a_RipMar 16, 2026
+7
Yes. There are in an existential struggle where leadership and decision makers are being targeting directly. High oil prices are the only way they can pressure the United States to stop, because they can't do anything military to them.
If you are a big shot in Iran, you want oil prices to be high, to delay your assassination. Though I suppose there could be people who want higher oil prices more than people trying not to die.
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HacymMar 16, 2026
+7
Or higher oil prices might drive the West to be more aggressive in their attacks on Iran to force revolution.
I don’t think the calculation is as simple are you’re making it out to be.
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[deleted]Mar 16, 2026
+3
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HacymMar 16, 2026
-4
lol. Trump is trying to pull in NATO allies to the conflict. If they feel like oil prices are out of control, they’ll likely be willing to participate in taking down the country that’s being portrayed as the bad actor here. And no, the US isn’t being portrayed that way.
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Dr_TeaRexMar 17, 2026
+1
Sorry to burst the bubble, but the US is being torn to shreds on the international stage for this. It is absolutely the bad actor. Took a unilateral decision to tank global economies, drive global oil prices through the roof, launch another ~20 years of instability in a region that is constantly on the receiving end of foreign interference, and endangering not only American civilians, but civilians in all the countries bordering the Gulf. All to appease Netenyahu by drawing the attention away from his expansion into Lebanon.
This was a catastrophic f*** up on the US's part no matter how you look at it.
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Jest_out_for_a_RipMar 16, 2026
+2
I agree. But Iran has no other cards to play. And they are explicitly playing this card. Their official strategy is to drive up oil prices. They are going to escalate until they can't or their opponent folds.
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C_h_a_nMar 16, 2026
+1
So far, the biggest winners due to price increase are Russia and USA corporations, not Iran, not the other Gulf States.
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Jest_out_for_a_RipMar 16, 2026
+3
Yes, the US being an energy superpower makes this strategy somewhat less effective than it was in the past. But it will still affect the United States, and especially their allies negatively. You don't have to believe me, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps said that "not a liter of oil" will pass through the Strait and that they will make oil prices go to $200 a barrel.
At some point, you just have to accept that maybe there's no conspiracy at the strategy is being pursued in the open and with press releases.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/11/irans-irgc-says-not-one-litre-of-oil-will-get-through-strait-of-hormuz
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TraditionalGap1Mar 16, 2026
-6
You said 'more to gain' not 'more to lose'.
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Jest_out_for_a_RipMar 16, 2026
+5
Those are the same thing. Value is value. People usually value their lives above all else.
Though, psychologically people are biased and prefer avoiding losses more than achieving gains, so that would suggest Iran, and it's leaders, have even greater motivation.
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TraditionalGap1Mar 16, 2026
-6
No, they aren't the same thing. A gain is a gain and a loss is a loss. You can't lose what you don't have. Conversely, you can't gain what you already hold. And, of course, your entire premise rests on the idea that f****** with the oil markets *would* have some meaningful impact and increase their odds of survival. One could envision such a policy *increasing* US/Israeli aggressiveness and willingness to act against Iranian leaders. Trying to put a quantitative value on such a thing is iffy at best.
Russia pocketing something like 7B USD in extra oil revenues? That's an out and out gain, for sure. If you're a US oil producer you're probably pretty satisfied with the current market conditions. Lots of people stand to *actually* gain from high oil prices
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Jest_out_for_a_RipMar 16, 2026
+5
You can absolutely lose more than you have currently, and have a debt against the future resources, or lose access to future resouces, which are resources you don't have now.
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judasthetoxicMar 16, 2026
-13
Read your own comment but slowly
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Jest_out_for_a_RipMar 16, 2026
+9
Iran? The country that relies on oil revenue and needs it be very high to pressure countries that it can't match military?
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EighthfloormeetingMar 16, 2026
-5
☺️☺️
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InvestolasMar 16, 2026
-1
Who gains in the war from attacks on Gulf state appearing as though were caused by Iran? Certainly not Iran.
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avds_wisp_techMar 16, 2026
Unfounded conspiracy theories help no one.
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Fedora_Million_AnkleMar 16, 2026
America just cornered the market with the Venezuala oil too. Its pretty complicated I am not pretending to know energy market dynamics btw
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Weird_Track_2164Mar 17, 2026
+1
Despite what Trump said about why we removed Maduro Venezuelan oil is too low quality to actually be of use. Even the oil industry wants nothing to do with it with the CEO of Exxon calling it "uninvestable".
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c205dx61x76o
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BarshanManMar 17, 2026
+2
There's a certain country in the conflict that is trying so badly to create false flags everywhere even targeting supposed allies. Hell, it got called out even by western embassies in the Gulf countries
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4redisMar 16, 2026
+23
Its definitely not US or israel, pretty promise they cannot do no harm to anyone.
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ClawingDevilMar 16, 2026
+8
I know, right? It's such a conundrum. If only we knew whether false flag attacks Is real or not.
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SmashingKMar 16, 2026
+2
There was a report about it being Israel. Tucker Carlson picked up in it before.
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FishAndRiceKeksMar 16, 2026
+3
Thank goodness Iran is above lying.
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Whole_Animal_4126Mar 16, 2026
-8
Definitely Israel.
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the4thwaveMar 16, 2026
+13
Definitely Iran.
Them denying it isnt intended to convince the higher ups, but it will convince some of the muslims, most of whom support Iran wholeheartedly but will balk on attacks against Saudi Arabia.
Its hardly 4D chess but there isnt any downside to denying it.
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avadam123Mar 16, 2026
-9
4 major players here. US, Israel, Saudi and Iran. They all want to see each other suffer. Iran wont want to start a fight with Saudi just yet, wheras Israel can use this as a reason to destabilze the region further.
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goldenfiverMar 16, 2026
+8
Israel wants to sign a normalization treaty with Saudi Arabia. Think again.
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thaelliahMar 16, 2026
+3
Oh, so you're saying they have a large amount of leverage to gain from a weakened Saudi Arabia.
Irrelevant to this discussion. Happened years ago. Water under the bridge at this point.
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piffctyMar 17, 2026
Don’t believe your lying eyes
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goldenfiverMar 17, 2026
What even is this? Are you a bot?
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piffctyMar 17, 2026
+1
It’s an idiom used when someone tells you disregard the evidence in front of you
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Curious_Researcher09Mar 16, 2026
-5
wouldn't even put it past them
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goldenfiverMar 16, 2026
Iran 100% did this.
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EighthfloormeetingMar 16, 2026
-9
Whose go to strategy has been false flag attacks through out history?
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ModsneedjobsMar 16, 2026
-7
Israel is definitely a possibility
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FillFrontFloorMar 16, 2026
-8
I'm honestly surprised it's not pirates. Seems like the thing they would do, attack unprotected tankers, kidnap the workers, steal the ship and sell it back. The sell the workers as slave.
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Puzzleheaded-Ad-9595Mar 16, 2026
-2
99% the chopped d*** guys 🙌
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s8018572Mar 16, 2026
+16
Iran official already say lots of thing different than IRGC's doing
Obviously Iran official couldn't control IRGC, just like WW2 Japan couldn't control IJA.
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WarmCryptographer375Mar 17, 2026
+3
Only if GCC can call out who actually did it.
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furrysalesman69Mar 16, 2026
+16
What’s the harm of looking into it? Aren’t people going to just get even more upset at Iran? Unless…they’re actually right. I’ll raise you the panama papers that came out a year ago.
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rightwingcrimespreeMar 16, 2026
+6
The Panama Papers as in the financial documents that were leaked 10 years ago?
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furrysalesman69Mar 16, 2026
+3
Alright,
*10 years ago.
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cherrysparklingwaterMar 17, 2026
+3
Remember the Lavon Affair where Mossad planned to attack Egyptian and British civilians and blame on Egyptian Nationalists and the Muslim Brotherhood but they were caught (and admitted to it)?
Or remember when Israel bombed the USS Liberty?
Or remember the Baghdad bombings targeting Jews in Iraq... which magically lead to an influx of new Jews who happened to be Iraqi Jews to the new state of Israel?
I remember.
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Hellstorm901Mar 16, 2026
-7
Iran after taking responsibility for attacks now denies them and claims they were false flags carried out by Israel after the optics of the attacks make them look bad
Just a reminder Hamas pulled the exact same gaslighting tactic after the 7th October massacre where despite boasting of the attack and even in some areas actually livestreaming the massacre as they carried it out Hamas and its supporters would later try to claim the massacre was a hoax and never happened
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piffctyMar 16, 2026
-7
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident?wprov=sfti1
Or in the beginning of the most recent Gazan war when they said they’d never bomb a hospital and then did all of these
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_health_facilities_during_the_Gaza_war?wprov=sfti1
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Hellstorm901Mar 16, 2026
+2
Not playing whataboutism
Iran boasted it was attacking every country in the region to punish them for supporting the US and Israel even if they weren't involved in the war and now Iran has 180'd and is trying to claim attacks, it already took credit for, were false flags purely because the countries it attacked have responded with military threats against Iran and Iran has realised it's already losing a war against the US and Israel and can't really afford to have the likes of Saudi Arabia, Azerbaijan, Turkey etc joining in against them
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piffctyMar 16, 2026
+2
It’s not what-about-ism it’s historical precedent.
Iran didn’t start this war. The IS and Israel did. If you listened to Rubio or any of his peers at the start of the war, it was Israel who made the first move and the US followed in suit.
Iran did not “attack every country in the region” for example not Azerbaijan or Palestine, but rather only countries with US military bases. Iran didn’t attack oil production in the opening days and only escalated after the US bombed production outside of Terran.
Of course Iran is taking far more losses than the US and Israel—they were the ones attacked and are surrounded. And of course they don’t want more powers lining up against them.
However Israel is all taking losses greater than they expected and they have a history of using false flags and “preemptive counter attacks” and are currently invading Lebanon and Syria. They have the most to gain from more parties entering the war.
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Hellstorm901Mar 16, 2026
>Iran didn’t start this war
Iran has called for a war against the US and Israel for 40+ years spending mass sums of money every year modernising its military with the self proclaimed goal of exterminating the "Zionist state" and defeating "Great Satan" (America) and the former supreme ruler and his cohorts have said if they acquired a nuclear weapon they'd immediately use it on Israel. You cannot pull the "Iran wanted peace" card just because Iran is losing a war it wanted
>Iran did not “attack every country in the region” for example not Azerbaijan or Palestine
Iran has attacked Azerbaijan and a missile fired at Israel landed in the predominantly Palestinian city of Tamra killing members of an Arab family
>
Iran didn’t attack oil production in the opening days
One of the first targets hit in Iran's first retaliation was the Ras Tanura oil refinery in Saudi Arabia which was targeted by Iranian drones
>and only escalated after the US bombed production outside of Terran
The US did not bomb Iranian oil production until recently. Iran meanwhile by its own admission said it would "Not a litre of oil" to pass Strait of Hormuz until the war ends and has acted on that threat by targeting oil tankers and refineries of Gulf states
>Of course Iran is taking far more losses than the US and Israel—they were the ones attacked and are surrounded
Iran is actually taking heavy losses because the Iranian military seem to be living in their own fantasy where they are denying reality and issuing borderline suicidal orders to their forces based on a belief they are winning or have already won the war. They sent up two SU-24's to attack Qatar despite the US and Israel having air superiority and knowing that Qatar had strong air defences, this led to the loss of both aircraft. The Iranian naval vessel Iris Dena was also sank effortlessly by the US Navy because the Iranian military actually believed just because they said the ship was coming back from an exercise it would be immune from targeting simply because they said it wasn't involved yet
>and are currently invading Lebanon
Israel is launching an operation in Lebanon because once again for no reason Hezbollah stupidly decided to involve themselves in a war they knew they wouldn't win and are not suffering the consequences of it. Even the Houthi's appear to have so far decided it's not worth it to join a losing side when you've been presented an off ramp to stay out
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piffctyMar 16, 2026
+5
\>Iran has called for a war against the US and Israel for 40+ years spending mass sums of money every year modernising its military with the self proclaimed goal of exterminating the "Zionist state" and defeating "Great Satan" (America) and the former supreme ruler and his cohorts have said if they acquired a nuclear weapon they'd immediately use it on Israel. You cannot pull the "Iran wanted peace" card just because Iran is losing a war it wanted
Sorry, who dropped the first bombs in this war? You're using a lot of word to deflect form the point that I was making. If military spending and rhetoric are acts of war, than Israel and the US have spent far more and said far more than Iran.
\>Iran has attacked Azerbaijan and a missile fired at Israel landed in the predominantly Palestinian city of Tamra killing members of an Arab family
Both cases are missile that went off target due to Israeli/US interference. And Iran apologized for them. Unlike the US/Israel bombing schools and hospitals--who vacillate between denying and gloating.
\>The US did not bomb Iranian oil production until recently. Iran meanwhile by its own admission said it would "Not a litre of oil" to pass Strait of Hormuz until the war ends and has acted on that threat by targeting oil tankers and refineries of Gulf states
They opened with bombing oilfields outside of Terran and have many non-US/Israel aligned ships pass through the strait. Meanwhile Israel continues to starve Gaza with their blockade. Why blockading food more moral than oil?
\>The Iranian naval vessel Iris Dena was also sank effortlessly by the US Navy because the Iranian military actually believed just because they said the ship was coming back from an exercise it would be immune from targeting simply because they said it wasn't involved yet
Once again gloating about a war crime. The vessel was unarmed because it had taken part in a parade in India (an US and Israeli ally). The US pulled out of those ceremonies at the last minute and then attacked the participants on their way home.
\>Israel is launching an operation in Lebanon because once again for no reason Hezbollah stupidly decided to involve themselves in a war they knew they wouldn't win
Expansionist ethnostate that's been occupying your land for 25+ years and has been bombing civilian infrastructure during a ceasefire isn't "no reason".
You act like you're preaching from the moral high ground, but it's just a pile of civilian corpses.
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NjxNaDxbMar 17, 2026
+1
I believe the answer will be a mix of "get fu\*\*ed" and "we are only waiting for this to be finished to seize everything you have in our countries under the guise of damage repayment"
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Blackout38Mar 16, 2026
-8
I don’t believe a word Iran says with their leadership fractioning under paranoia of who the leak is. The military does not have complete control over all of their assets and in his apology to the gulf and rest of world their President acknowledged many the military acting without order at the beginning of the war and were leaderless. They responded the only way they knew how by attacking everything in all directions. He also said they would stop attacking everyone except legit target. But the military had him walk those statements back hours later and then started bombing Omar, a country with zero US military bases.
So either Iran is lying through their teeth or they actually don’t have control of the military groups attacking global shipping lanes. Both are grounds for intervention by a coalition which is I guess why the rest of world is coming on to the idea.
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warwellianMar 16, 2026
+1
Oh my gosh a nation who’s leader was just eliminated is having a hard time controlling it’s proxy groups? Who could have ever seen this coming!? The world is not coming around to this, you’re deluding yourself bub.
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Blackout38Mar 16, 2026
+4
And they still don’t have that control so why trust a word they say? Then the world can have less oil. The US doesn’t care because it doesn’t get any oil from them and is actually a net exporter. I’m sure the Chinese trade talks are fun this month.
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warwellianMar 16, 2026
+1
Sure that’s why Trump is begging for help to clean up his mess. They clearly don’t care lol
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Blackout38Mar 16, 2026
-2
Bahaha oh they don’t care? They just released the largest quantity of oil reserves in human history to try to stop the direction the market is going in. That’s a lot for not caring. Hahah
I think what you really mean is they are reluctant. They are hoping they won’t have to and that someone else will solve it for them.
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warwellianMar 16, 2026
+3
Wait so the US doesn’t care because they get no oil from them, but they also care enough to release large quantity of reserves. Do just let shit spew onto the keyboard?
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Blackout38Mar 16, 2026
+5
I know reading comprehension isn’t worked on as much in schools but please try to follow along. The world is releasing the largest oil intervention in human history. I know yall like to boost the US ego but when I say “world” it doesn’t directly mean “US.
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warwellianMar 16, 2026
+1
No sorry but you didn’t say “world” and the US is releasing reserves as well so your whole argument falls apart. But it’s okay you aren’t expected to have consistent arguments when you simp for impulsive and deranged foreign policy
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Blackout38Mar 16, 2026
+6
The US has been releasing reserves since Russia invaded Ukraine and we released even more then…. But hey accuse me of being a propagandist while being liberal with the facts yourself. We are a net exporter that receives zero percent of oil from the Middle East, if anything you’ve highlighted an opportunity.
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avds_wisp_techMar 16, 2026
+1
> We are a net exporter that receives zero percent of oil from the Middle East
We _are_ a net exporter, yes, but we still import a fuckton of oil from the middle east and South America, simply because we have so many refineries, specifically in the Gulf states, that are tooled for their specific type of (heavy sour) oil. We don't have that type of heavy sour crude in North America. We have light "sweet" oil, and we export it.
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Any_Recognition_2532Mar 16, 2026
-8
Its very obvious israel has gains if saudi joins their war. Israel is very well know of false flag operations
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DoterPotatoMar 17, 2026
u/Any_Recognition_2532 likes to keep their posts hidden, but check out their stats to learn more about them.
"IT WAS DA JOOS!!!" hidden history clown
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Any_Recognition_2532Mar 17, 2026
+1
If anything. Your the one here correlating jews for Israelis actions.
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DoterPotatoMar 17, 2026
-1
You do not hate Israel because of Israel. You hate Israel because you hate jews. That was the implication here. Israel would be a subgroup that you hate since you also hate the broader group.
Also the word "correlate" doesn't work here. The word you are looking for are conflating/equating/associating but you obviously have a really hard time with the english language since you have yet to graduate high school. + you're\*
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Any_Recognition_2532Mar 17, 2026
+2
Crying antisemite over any criticism of israel. Ok mr. Mossad.
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DoterPotatoMar 17, 2026
-1
Oh no. Being critical of Israel isn't antisemetic. You specifically are very antisemetic though and it is quite obvious from what you write (and also why you hide your history like a good little piggy).
Maybe one day you will learn a 2nd language so you dont sound like a drooler when you write online
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davidmlewisjrMar 16, 2026
-6
Does anyone believe that Iran would gain anything by attacking the Saudi’s ? 🤯🙏
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carlososMar 16, 2026
+16
Yes, especially since they threatened to do that for years. Taking out your competitor's oil makes your oil worth more.
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davidmlewisjrMar 17, 2026
+1
Was not commenting on stupid American beliefs…
Was stating that Saudi would exact significant retribution on Iran for such silliness.
Assuming Iran acted logically, which could be too much to expect of the present government of Iran 🤯
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mattyhtownMar 17, 2026
+3
Ya Iran supplies the Houthis. Houthis are a disruptive threat bordering KSA
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davidmlewisjrMar 17, 2026
+1
I’m still thinking the payback would be non-trivial
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Adventurous_Tea_2198Mar 16, 2026
-3
Remember that Americans to this day unironically believe Russia blew up their own Nordstream 2.
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davidmlewisjrMar 17, 2026
+1
Was not commenting on stupid American beliefs…
Was stating that Saudi would exact significant retribution on Iran for such silliness.
Assuming Iran acted logically, which could be too much to expect of the present government of Iran 🤯
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davidmlewisjrMar 17, 2026
+1
Why would they not?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream_pipelines_sabotage
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Such-NebulaMar 16, 2026
Israel and the US have the most to gain from an increasingly isolated Iran. It’s all a perpetual land grab by the “world’s most moral army”
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[deleted]Mar 16, 2026
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NoodleCheeseThiefMar 16, 2026
+2
I don't think they would.
I think people of the world can only be bullied for only so long. Trump has done a favour to the EU and UK this year by blackmailing them with threats and name calling. They now realise that the US cannot be trusted as an ally.
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