When our daughter passed away a few years ago, the funeral home asked if we wanted to watch her being cremated. No, but I can understand why some people would.
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SLAYER_IN_MEMar 16, 2026
+82
This article just changed my mind.
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TooMuchPretzelsMar 17, 2026
+16
Yep, same. I’m not dying now.
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Feathered_MangoMar 16, 2026
+56
My husband is East Asian & this is common practice in Korea and Japan -a loved one presses the button and there is usually a viewing window.
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McMatey_PirateMar 16, 2026
+38
I totally get wanting to be in the room and pushing the button to start the process.
But a viewing window seems like a little much, like wouldn’t it get super gross super quickly. Doesn’t seem like something I’d actually want to watch.
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Feathered_MangoMar 16, 2026
+54
Well, in Korea, one is generally in a casket or that cardboard casket. Once someone I love is dead, the body is just an empty shell. My mom wanted to be donated to a body farm, but they have long waitlists. The ashes of my mom, grandmas, and late husband really don't mean anything to me. . .but I realize I'm in the minority w/ this opinion. Having been a hospice nurse many yrs ago, the postmortem body deserves to be treated w/ dignity. If I received the incorrect ashes, by mistake, I really don't think I would care, but what these people did is disgusting.
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McMatey_PirateMar 16, 2026
+15
Oh don’t get me wrong, the ashes are no problem for me and I also accept that a corpse is just a corpse after my parents pass on.
I just specifically intrigued by the viewing window.
It makes more sense that the corpse would be in a casket and not completely seen.
For some reason I thought it was just the body on a slab and the idea of watching that burn would be a little gross.
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Feathered_MangoMar 16, 2026
+8
As far as I know, Koreans & Japanese at least have a sheet covering the body. But Koreans & Japanese don't receive the ashes fully crushed. . .the loved ones pick out the bits that didn't fully incinerate. In Korea, most large hospitals have on-site funeral homes, you can get the whole song & dance knocked out within 24-48 hrs. They have Protestant, Catholic,Buddhist clergy on call. Very efficient.
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robophile-taMar 17, 2026
+1
The Shrouds (2025)
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appropriate_pangolinMar 16, 2026
+5
I know people and pets aren’t the same thing, but I get pet bereavement content on Rednote and people in China have posted pictures of their families sending off beloved pets in this way. It makes sense, that it’s an echo of how beloved human family members would be sent off. I don’t know that I’d want to actively watch the cremation of a relative or pet, but I can see how being there with other loved ones and being able to look, being able to know nothing shady is going on, could be a comfort.
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Feathered_MangoMar 16, 2026
+5
Humans & pets aren't the same thing, but I actually wish people could get the same widely available option for a dignified death. People will, rightly, choose to be at their suffering pet's euthanasia, but some of these same people will keep their demented & in pain loved one full-code.
I think I'd press the button & watch the flames engulf the body, but I wouldn't sit around & watch the whole process. I know in the US, pets are usually cremated in bulk. Is individual cremation for pets the norm in China?
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appropriate_pangolinMar 16, 2026
+1
I don’t know about China as a whole, since the Rednote user base seems to skew younger, urban, and female, but the people on there I’ve seen discuss pet cremation seem to go for individual cremation, whether or not they opt to watch it. There’s a lot of discussion of what to do with the ashes (burying/scattering them in nature, keeping them at home, putting them in a pet columbarium). Bulk cremations may happen, I just haven’t seen it discussed.
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Feathered_MangoMar 16, 2026
+1
A cremation niche for a pet definitely seems to imply a demographic with disposable income. I can't imagine what the fee for having my little birds individually cremated would be. It just doesn't seem cost effective to fire up the incinerator for a 1oz creature. I don't even care about the ashes of my human loved ones, but some yrs ago there was a news report that the paw prints for cats & dogs were being faked at a pet mortuary - that would make me very sad.
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Impossible_Leg_2787Mar 16, 2026
+9
Yeah apparently this is common at Indian funerals too. I found that one out at the end of my dad’s funeral when they told me to do it lmao.
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[deleted]Mar 16, 2026
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Feathered_MangoMar 16, 2026
+1
If you guys had a viewing prior, maybe they were removing/checking for any valuable, like a watch or wedding band? For my FIL's funeral we know he was changed out of his western suit & into a silky outfit without pockets or buttons & a rosary was stuck in his hands.
Maybe some families don't like watching that exact moment?
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SaraAB87Mar 16, 2026
+2
I am catholic and you can watch the body go into the ground at the grave site if you want to, we usually go to the grave site anyways during the funeral (I am sure you can make it so this part is optional if you want) and there are always grave diggers on hand during this.
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Feathered_MangoMar 16, 2026
+2
I'm Catholic as well, but my family has been cremating since the Holy See started allowing it in the '60's. I've been to other Catholic funerals though, and I think only one did the graveside interment. TBF, unless it is open casket, you really don't know who/what is going into the ground. My family doesn't do embalming or open casket; I think we are collectively too c****.
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SaraAB87Mar 16, 2026
+2
I am polish so maybe it comes from there, its just the way its always been done in my family, but I am sure if you don't want to go to the gravesite, other arrangements can be made. Also if you don't go to the gravesite, you go to a chapel at the cemetary and do a 5-10 minute thing there.
The casket is the one you pick out, so you assume its your loved one going into the ground. If it was different you would know. Also with the ones we do, the pallbearers take the casket right into the hearse, and the hearse drives to the cemetary in a funeral procession and you get to watch the whole thing and drive with the hearse. It would take a lot of work for them to switch out the bodies, or for them to remove the body from the casket or to do something crazy like that. You can also be in the room when the funeral people close up the casket (its a process) if you want to, they literally close it up in front of you and put the casket in the hearse, and drive to the cemetary with the body.
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coyotegangMar 16, 2026
+1
Last October I attended my fiances grandmother’s funeral in Japan. There was no viewing window for the cremation. But we saw the ashes and bones immediately after and used these ceremonial chopsticks to places the bones in an urn.
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vix86Mar 17, 2026
+1
I've heard in Japan at least, there is even a funeral rite afterwards for very close members of the deceased, where they take bones by chopstick and grind them down. (This is where the social faux pas on passing food chopstick to chopstick comes from.)
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Feathered_MangoMar 17, 2026
+1
Yes! My husband had to break me of the habit of leaving chopsticks sticking in rice, also a faux pas
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XivvxMar 16, 2026
+7
It can help with grieving.
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Carribean-DiverMar 16, 2026
+6
The weird part to me is that they charge extra for family members to watch. And there are different tiers and packages. It strikes me as surreal.
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princesskate04Mar 16, 2026
+6
That’s because it is potentially dangerous and we have to do special preparation to let people back into the crematorium. Technically, people aren’t allowed back there who aren’t trained employees. Liability for the funeral home is high if someone gets hurt. There is all sorts of dangerous equipment in the crematorium; it’s not just the retort. It’s also very uncomfortable in there.
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Carribean-DiverMar 16, 2026
+3
It wasn't in the room with the retort. It was an adjacent room with a window and a curtain.
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myrevenge_IS_urkarmaMar 16, 2026
+1
Won't be long until the families will have to get tickets to these through Ticketmaster. Probably.
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wernerverklemptMar 17, 2026
+2
Weddings and funerals are the businesses one goes into in order to fleece people under the guise of making things “special” for people.
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Initial-Progress-763Mar 16, 2026
+1
I kind of wish now that that'd been an option when my dad passed. He was cremated, and had no funeral. So not only was there minimal closure but the cremation process was left to my imagination. After bearing witness to his passing from cancer (iykyk), it would have been quite healing to be allowed to be a part of his cremation and/or interment.
EtA: I'm so sorry for your loss.
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SuccessfulCompany294Mar 16, 2026
+83
What is wrong with people, I mean seriously.
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[deleted]Mar 16, 2026
+105
Nursing homes are full of this unfortunately, they exist to extract the wealth from the elderly in their last years and give them bare minimum healthcare in exchange. I always loved seeing the administrators and owners luxury houses and cars, and then being asked as a low paid worker to help donate necessities like clothing and blankets to the residents.
Nursing homes are big business, they’re almost all franchises, with owners operating dozens of locations. I don’t have hard numbers but it was always mind blowing to me, that it would cost $6000-$10000 per month to live at the facility, and they understaffed minimum wage CNAs and it’d be one nurse per 50 patients so we couldn’t ever actually get to anything the residents needed. The food was no better than prison food.
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masnosremeMar 16, 2026
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It's a problem of any industry. The system as it stands - as it has been designed by the rich and powerful to justify and cement their station - only values profit. Kindness, care, ethics, and generally not being a complete b****** are only useful insofar as they benefit profit, and what that really comes down to is projecting the *image* but not the *practice* of those things.
Employees, customers, the very resources that you utilize to create your product or service all become little more than obstacles to your profit. You are incentivized to squeeze them dry by whatever means are available to you. People stop being people.
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The_Original_MiserMar 16, 2026
+5
SNFs are going to have a reckoning soon, as upcoming generations will/do _not_ have that kind of money.
Something has to change.
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StormOfSpearsMar 16, 2026
+3
If it hasn't happened yet, expect Private Equity to start moving in and taking over. It's a captive market.
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NotPrepared2Mar 16, 2026
+1
If any system isn't fucked yet, private equity will kill it.
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AwarenessRude5541Mar 16, 2026
+2
Yup. My great aunt had just about a million dollars from her 401k/selling house after husband died. She didn't want to move out of state and in state family didn't have room or ability to care for her full time.
Her freaking nursing home cost 10k a month (we found out near the end the true cost). After 7 years she essentially told the family she was out of money. She passed shortly after but just sad to see the nursing home take her for her literal last penny. And the food they served her when we visited was pretty much prison food. Insane.
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SaraAB87Mar 16, 2026
+1
Yup because usually the kids of the people that need to go into the nursing home have their own lives and cannot care for grandma or grandpa and they have no choice but to place them in one, I have been there and it can get real ugly. Nursing homes in my area are falling apart from neglect, we are talking literally falling tile on the residents and residents in their rooms, flooded hallways with sopping water and the one that has this problem is in one of the most expensive areas in my area. The 50 patients to one resident is so true and almost all those patients have dementia, if you haven't experienced it you can only imagine. Some scream and cry for their loved ones all day long.
There's not enough money to pay CNA's to take care of these people, they should be getting double the pay they are, I do believe the CNA's actually do care which is what I experienced however they are just so short staffed and aren't given the resources to properly care for nursing home residents with severe dementia so they have to cut corners where they can. Food was really good in the nursing home I had to deal with, I think I got lucky with the one I had to deal with, it did not have the building problems that I have heard about like what I said above
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[deleted]Mar 16, 2026
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Oh no doubt most of the CNAs do care. We had some really good career ones, some really good nursing students that wanted to dip their toes into healthcare, and I like to think that for the year I spent there as a nurse, I gave them safe and ethical care to the best of my ability. But I can even admit I took shortcuts that I never would in my current career where I take 1-2 patients at a time. My CNAs were paid less than Starbucks and Target workers down the road. I fed a lot of them, and gave them rides to and from work when I was able. All nursing home workers and nursing home residents deserve so much more.
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SaraAB87Mar 16, 2026
+1
Oh I agree. There were some very good nurses and CNA's over here. They deserve so much more. Some took side jobs as private aid's, and we heard stories about how they cared for wealthy people in our community, and in some cases even moved in with the family. The nursing home my grandma was in had some wealthy people from the community in it, so you know it was a decent one. I did not see any building issues with water leaking or anything like that. I don't think CNA's are paid less than fast food here though, our minimum wage is at least $15-16, but its ridiculous that you would have to do this type of work for that little pay, meanwhile while someone else is raking in all the dough, especially when this is coming down to caring for human beings. Paramedic's here are also paid about the same as food workers and there's something that is very wrong with that.
Unfortunately when there are 30-50 patients per staff member, there's really no way to not cut corners. Care would be so much better if the resources were allocated properly.
From what I hear though there's always been a shortage of CNA's from like the beginning of time and its not just a covid or economy thing, but covid did make it worse.
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Cool-Tangelo6548Mar 16, 2026
+8
Money. Theres an age old saying, money is the root of all evil.
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CharmedConflictMar 16, 2026
+29
This wasn't just doing a wrong thing. It was doing a wrong thing everyday for years. Don't buy her crocodile tears.
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BlackMan9693Mar 16, 2026
+95
The owner couple had stacked around 200 corpses and even used the government aid during Covid ($900,000 or so) for feeding their lifestyle.
The woman said she was abused domestically by her ex-husband and continued to lure grieving people and now feels free or released from that.
That was paraphrased but holy f****** shit. That's absolutely vile. The article mentions the abused families suffering from shame, guilt, nightmares and such but can't even imagine the feeling of betrayal and disappointment with themselves they must have felt. To think their loved ones were desecrated by being thrown into storage among other corpses.
Humanity is beyond fucked. F****** hell.
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Zestyclose-Novel1157Mar 16, 2026
+31
As far as I’m concerned she can be locked up right beside him. There is no excuse for that. That’s absolutely vile like you said. Disgraceful. They just left them to rot. And who is the staff that just went stacking bodies on top of already rotting bodies.
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BlackMan9693Mar 16, 2026
+22
Both the woman and her ex are total psychopaths. She feels released and the guy said he'll feel guilty for what he did. Total bullshit from them as far as I am concerned. They only feel that way because they'll be spending a couple decades or more rotting in prison and can't feed their lavish lifestyle anymore. It's sickening and depressing to a degree I can't put into words.
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Far_Radish7752Mar 16, 2026
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From the AP News article:
>Those who entrusted their loved ones to the Hallfords struggled with guilt, shame, nightmares and panic attacks since the bodies were discovered in 2023. They were stacked so high in some places that they blocked doorways. There were bugs and maggots. Buckets had been placed to catch leaking fluids.
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Far_Radish7752Mar 16, 2026
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BlackMan9693Mar 16, 2026
+3
Ouch. Sorry for the wrong assumption.
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Far_Radish7752Mar 16, 2026
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TheDodoBirdMar 16, 2026
+10
> The woman said she was abused domestically by her ex-husband and continued to lure grieving people and now feels free or released from that.
Funny enough, the husband said similar things about her. The true this, these were just both awful people who found each other, and then did awful things together.
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rugger87Mar 16, 2026
+7
I think it was Netflix, but there was a documentary on this funeral home in the south, either Louisiana or Mississippi, where the owner inherited the family funeral home business. The son never wanted to be a mortician and got in over his head, started digging mass graves and leaving people out to rot when his furnace failed. I think it cost the state millions to investigate and identify remains, and the guy became a preacher.
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gothic_waifu_Mar 16, 2026
+12
kinda reminds me of david sconce after watching the mortician. these grieving families deserve so much better
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ripyourlungsdaveMar 17, 2026
+3
Meanwhile, covid legitimately ruined my life, put me back into homelessness and killed my family and all I ever got was the one $1,200 payment.
Coincidentally, I got kicked off food stamps the next month despite still being very much homeless.
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TesslafonMar 16, 2026
+10
I saw a documentary on this couple, they are horrible people
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sicilian504Mar 16, 2026
+10
I'm pretty sure this happened with our dog. We had a German Shepherd mix that passed away and we had cremated. We elected to pay more to have him cremated by himself. I worked in a funeral home for a little while so I'm familiar with how much ashes a typical human produces. The amount of ashes we were given back for him was *way* too much. It was in a clear bag in a wood box so I could see it. The texture also looked off. I'm convinced it was sand.
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djankylosaurMar 16, 2026
+3
It's pretty fucked up that you have to pay to have them cremated by themselves. If you don't have the money, it's just, "Here's your dog, plus six others, and a SNAKE!".
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XivvxMar 16, 2026
+6
Throw them both in prison. They were both in on it, this is her blaming the husband entirely. She's crying crocodile tears that she got caught is what she's doing.
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BronzyrollerMar 16, 2026
+5
Fake ashes, like really maybe cigar ashes.
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ToddlerPuncher5000Mar 16, 2026
+8
It rocked the entire state for like a year. It was quickcrete or something.
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TheDodoBirdMar 16, 2026
+2
Yep, they used concrete mix instead of ashes.
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TheSchlafMar 16, 2026
+2
Jeff Foxworthy does a bit on this using cigarettes. "I had to smoke a whole carton of Marlboros to get her back on the mantle."
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pjcaceMar 16, 2026
+10
Tri-State Crematory in Georgia had 339(!) bodies that were not cremated. Also used concrete dust.
If found guilty, they should be made to wear shoes of the 'ashes' and forced to walk the plank. This is just horrible.
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Feather_figMar 16, 2026
+3
I feel like this is the 3rd story I've read recently about crematoriums not really cremating bodies and instead just leaving them in storage, wtf is going on???
I was hoping maybe it was all one story but apparently not... so this is Colorado, then there's the Georgia case, and another one in Maryland:
[https://wjla.com/news/local/crematory-bodies-improperly-stored-maryland-heaven-bound-southern-charles-county-improperly-stored-cremation-operating-license-suspended-rosa-williams-brandon-human-remains-identify](https://wjla.com/news/local/crematory-bodies-improperly-stored-maryland-heaven-bound-southern-charles-county-improperly-stored-cremation-operating-license-suspended-rosa-williams-brandon-human-remains-identify)
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Willing-Asparagus787Mar 17, 2026
+2
What's with the headline? Switching up ashes is NOT why they got 20 years.
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MokmoMar 17, 2026
+1
The picture is the cadaver storage, if I'm not mistaken ? I don't want to imagine the smell but it's one of those things I could probably use to induce vomiting someday.
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KhanAlGhulMar 16, 2026
+3
And nobody has faced any real consequences from the Epstein Files, except Epstein and Maxwell.
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wernerverklemptMar 17, 2026
+1
So they didn’t even have a way to cremate the corpses? This is so much crazier than I realized. “First you get the money. Then you get the bodies. Then you stack them in a warehouse and go shopping and just ignore the problem.”
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chrispy_tMar 17, 2026
+1
Can I just say something?
How do you even get caught?
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NoopzMar 16, 2026
-4
This is genuinely one of the most vile things a human being can do short of anything violent. Completely cruel and purposeful thing to do to people who are at such a vulnerable moment.
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gyarrrrrMar 17, 2026
-2
Yeah it’s not good at all, but many worse things carry much lighter sentences in my opinion.
I’d much rather someone abuse a corpse than a child, or even an animal- they’re dead already…
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