DOJ lost around 4,000 employees, estimates show that 1,500 of them were part of the FBI. The so-called conservative government is dismantling all the country’s institutions
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VerdantPathfinder2 days ago
+2363
As intended. And everyone hired will have to sign a loyalty pledge. Remember that database of tens of thousands of loyalists they created years ago? Why do you think they decimated the federal workforce? So they could install those people into the government from the inside. Then they'll be inside the government and poisoning it for decades; incompetents looking for aliens and election fraud with their conspiracy-laden, mush-for-brains.
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_Schrodingers_Gat_2 days ago
+888
Don't ever pretend like they are stupid. They may be dumb, but they understand the strategy, and they f****** know damn well what they are trying to do. These are not dumb Nazi's from Hogan's heros... they are just Nazis hell bent on destroying our nation.
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BicFleetwood2 days ago
+167
> Don't ever pretend like they are stupid.
Calling them stupid and infantilizing them has always been a low-key way to give them a "pass." It makes them seem less dangerous than they truly are, as if we've just whoopsie-doodled our way into concentration camps.
I have the same grievance from the Bush years. The media worked overtime (and still does today) to make him seem like a cute buffoon and not a genocidal war criminal. That is no small part of why these monsters have never been held to account and why Democrats get away with the "lets just move on" zero-accountability bullshit when they manage to accidentally squeak out a marginal victory.
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musicman8352 days ago
+49
It depends on who you’re talking about. The architects of
It, or the cousin f***** in his trailer in Alabama who votes red because libruls.
Because one is not stupid the other is too stupid to see it.
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BicFleetwood2 days ago
+46
You're still sort of equating stupidity with some level of non-malicious innocence which I strongly disagree with.
"They didn't know better" has always been a shallow excuse for evil.
That's an excuse made for *children* when they do something shitty. We are supposed to have grown out of that by the time we can use the big-boy toilet.
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intrafinesse2 days ago
+12
The people who vote in these guys are poorly informed, and in some cases poorly educated, and don't understand the bigger issues.
If someone only gets news from X then they are easily manipulated.
Its MUCH easier to manipulate these people now than 40 years ago.
If propaganda is vastly more effective now, the result is certain types get elected
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BicFleetwood2 days ago
+20
Again, you're infantilizing them. "If only they'd just listen to ME and what I understand, they'd be better!"
No. That's not how this works. You aren't going to debate them out of being evil in the mArKeTpLaCe Of IdEaS. They aren't one documentary with a stomp-clap millennial soundtrack away from embracing decency. They aren't going to crack open the books and learn about intersectional feminism. And this insistence that they can be convinced is as much a defense of the failures a dying neoliberal status quo as it is a defense of *other* evils.
It's the same old "if only they could see how *marginally better* the Democrats are!" bullshit that has lost election after election, prioritizing winning over this mythical "reasonable Republican" at the cost of literally EVERYONE ELSE, as if we need the complete and ongoing consent of the *enemy* to defeat them.
It's time to stop trying to convince them and start marginalizing them.
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Charlie_Mouse2 days ago
+14
> They aren't going to crack open the books and learn about intersectional feminism
I’ll admit that image made me laugh but in truth almost all of it boils down to “try not to be a d*** to people different than you”, be they women, gay, trans, of a different ethnicity or pretty much anything really.
It’s really pretty damn simple. Heck, most kids programs from Sesame Street onwards manage to convey it.
Agree with your conclusion though. Society would be a lot better off if those who acted selfishly, vindictively or bigotedly were shunned, mocked and socially ostracised. Rather than say just for example elected President.
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VanGlutenFaht2 days ago
+198
Agreed. I think we need to treat them as competent and malicious. To underestimate them and write them off as a bunch of morons is putting everyone at greater risk. These people are DANGEROUS and want to cause as much damage as possible.
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SeaTurtleLionBird2 days ago
+60
Exactly and that's why "they are eating the pets" wasn't a nail in the coffin during 2024 campaign.
These dumb mother fuckers are destroying the US out of spite and malice because they know they are dumb mouthbreathers
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impulse_thoughts2 days ago
+45
“Every accusation a confession”. They’ve been projecting their strategy for years. Accuse the other side of “deep state” (or any number of things without evidence.) so the other side argues “it doesn’t exist”, while they move forward installing a “deep state” (or voter/ballot/election fraud, insider trading/self-enrichment/"corrupt crime family", dismantling any semblance of effective government, etc), committing the very corruption they’ve been projecting. Then go “whaaaat do you meaaaan? You’ve been saying there’s no deep state for years! Now there’s a deep state (et al) and all of a suddennnnn AND with evidence?! the hypocrisy! And we WERE right all along, THEY'RE the bad ones!”
(and the sad thing is it's been working)
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WowIfOnly2 days ago
+16
> Don't ever pretend like they are stupid. They may be dumb, but they understand the strategy, and they f****** know damn well what they are trying to do.
This needs to be repeated early and often. The loudest supporters of MAGA being dumbasses doesn't mean all the f****** evil people actually screwing everything up in the government behind the scenes are. Those people are often very smart/calculated/experienced/coordinated because this chaotic confusing shitshow has taken years of planning to achieve by design. It actually benefits them for us to assume they're stupid. But make no mistake. The movement and the rhetoric may *sound* dumb (of course Nazi ideology is stupid AF), but the end result and permanent damage they're pushing for is catastrophic and a risk to everyone. They chose this messaging for a reason - because it's working with a huge portion of our uneducated bigoted ignorant populace.
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Chillers2 days ago
+9
Its basically destroyed. It will take a generation to fix your standing with just your allies and even then you won't have the pedestal you once had. Your President threatened to invade an allied nation there is no coming back from that any time soon. America basically burned it's own bridges it built with the world.
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xX420GanjaWarlordXx2 days ago
+7
Smells like treason to me. But what do I know
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teeny_tina2 days ago
+6
The brains of the federalist society have been pulling the strings from the background for decades, and they started by attacking at the local level: destroying public education.
Once you've created an uneducated polity, how do you "speak" to them? You make idiocy the face of the GOP while the architects continue to break the system.
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Traditional_Day_97372 days ago
+61
God I hope we get someone in next with a project 2025 equivalent to reverse all this and make it more difficult for future executives to do it again.
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DivineArkandos2 days ago
+64
It will take many long decades to undo 4 years of damage.
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Feisty_Buddy28692 days ago
+22
>It will take many long decades to undo 4 years of damage.
If (and that is the biggest "if" to ever be "if'd") we are allowed to recover from this, there's not a single person alive today that will see it done.
The damage they did in Trump's *first* term was "decades" worth of damage.
Now? We're at generational levels of damage.
Even if all the pedofascists and their owners disappear tomorrow morning, you're looking at your great-grandchildren ***maybe*** living in an America that isn't a shit hole country...if we take decisive and swift action starting tomorrow morning and we never stop working towards fixing things, or let the conservatives drag us back down.
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Zizhou1 day ago
+4
I mean, those "couple of years" are really just the most publicly visible part of the already ongoing decades-long campaign to undermine the country. It'll take that long to undo the damage because the rot has been setting in for just as long, waiting for someone to finally take advantage of the weakened state of things.
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Upstairs-Novel-90502 days ago
+24
When is the last time this country did anything for the people? In my entire lifetime we only squeaked out the ACA vote and that’s nearly or already dead.
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Ass_of_Badness2 days ago
+6
And it wasn't exactly a great bill anyway. We are absolutely fucked.
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garyb500092 days ago
+5
it's original design was actually very good and fair. but the Republicans couldn't have that. so they filibustered till they could get their way and essentially turn it into Romnycare2.0. it was shitty out of the gate, but barely passable as affordable care.
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Rhiis2 days ago
+17
I think the ratchet theory applies here. Conservative administrations rotate us to the right, and liberal administrations are the ratchet that stops us turning right, but aren't permitted to rotate us back left
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Sao_Gage2 days ago
+23
Wishful thinking. It’s much easier to destroy than create, what they’ve done can’t be easily fixed.
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InsuranceToTheRescue2 days ago
+9
The pipe dream is that a President gets elected who is committed to wield the unprecedented power of the Executive to reverse the societal damage the 2nd Gilded Age has done, before forcing Congress to reclaim its power and instituting a federal judicial ethics standard that also applies to SCOTUS. We've got to restore separation of powers. It's the root cause of a lot of government dysfunction.
Honestly, I wonder if we don't need a 4th branch of government that encompasses things like inspectors general and statistical reporting. That way IGs, for example, investigating government abuse aren't part of, or any way in, the same chain of command they're investigating.
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paper_liger2 days ago
+4
Going to have to call it Project 2024, just to reset things.
Or maybe Project 2020, because *hindsight*.
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FrenchCheerios2 days ago
+17
This is part of the email they sent to Liberty University Law School:
*"The two most important requirements are you MUST be aligned politically with President Trump and his administration and you must be willing to work hard. Don’t be scared off by the transcript requirement. GPA is not a strong factor. If you meet those two requirements, you have a shot."*
So if you're looking for right-wing evangelical lawyers who could only get accepted into a bottom of the barrel ranked (144 out of 194) law school, you'll be delighted.
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kensho282 days ago
+10
Trump is a rapist pedophile and the DOJ is protecting him, there are mountains of evidence, even after they illegally redacted most of the files. You can either believe the actual victims of Epstein's pedophile ring, or you can believe Trump, who is the biggest liar in American political history.
https://www.postandcourier.com/news/epstein-victim-fbi-trump/article_21a2149f-f4a1-4351-9ac7-d12746f03a58.html
>The woman who accused Donald Trump of sexually abusing her when she was 13 provided several verifiable details about her life in interviews with the FBI, according to a new report.
>The woman detailed her alleged abuse by Trump and convicted sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein over four interviews in 2019, the Epstein files revealed. The interviews were initially kept secret by the DOJ.
>A woman who claims she was abused as a minor by both Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump has given the FBI vivid accounts that include aspects of her life corroborated by The Post and Courier through public records.
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lastbornjay2 days ago
+20
What’s to stop the next administration from doing the same thing that Trump is doing now, firing all these people and then hiring newer employees more receptive to democracy and democratic morals and values ?
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VerdantPathfinder2 days ago
+37
Legally? Nothing. All the guardrails are being torn away. But will the next administration want to cause all the harm and malignant chaos this one does? It's easier to destroy than to create and the destruction this administration is causing in our government and worldwide will take at least a generation to fix.
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Neversoft4long2 days ago
+9
Hell I think that has to be one of their campaign promises. “We are cross examining every single person hired by this administration and if we find you have any hint of being a Nazi or sedition, you are not only losing your job but we will look to try you along with all the others”. This shit has to be stamped out immediately. Along with reversing all this stupid shit taco is doing with NATO and our allies.
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VerdantPathfinder2 days ago
+9
Not Nazi. Fascist. Don't narrow the target. Don't let them off on a technicality. Don't let them paint you as the lunatic.
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Neversoft4long2 days ago
+6
Fair point. Fascist is def the right word there.
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FlyBulky1062 days ago
+23
We should’ve stamped out the embers of the Confederation after the Civil War, but Andrew Johnson was a southern sympathizer and basically pardoned virtually all of them. We’ve been dealing with this lost cause bullshit ever since.
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tabrizzi2 days ago
+30
Nothing, except there will be a cynical call to "unite the country".
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Argos_the_Dog2 days ago
+15
Another issue is that the Supreme Court as it currently exists will find excuses to block the next president from rebuilding if it's a Democrat that is elected. They'll cite some British court case from 1172 A.D. as the precedent for why Trump could fire half the DOJ and President Prtizker can't hire them back.
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lastbornjay2 days ago
+7
Well my hope is that the senate switches to majority Democratic Party in the midterms, then the White House in 2028. hopefully they will have no issues pushing forward term limits and other graft related improvements within SCOTUS
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tabrizzi2 days ago
+5
Dems have no spine for such things.
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Feisty_Buddy28692 days ago
+8
Schumerite Democrats: "now is not the time for change or prosecutions. We all need to come together and unite the country in support of Israel during this tough time."
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wakeonuptimshel2 days ago
+5
That’s what I keep screaming to people as the clear sign of THEY WILL NOT BE LEAVING. It’s not being done so it can be undone. He’s not early stage Putin with decades ahead of him. They aren’t unaware of this. Republicans in Congress knew this was a long term destruction they were signing on to. There is no going back. There’s no undo buttons for bringing back allies, institutions lost or destroyed, and that our Constitution is optional. There’s no walking out the other side of this casually. It’s either our forever or it all needs to be remade.
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Slypenslyde2 days ago
+13
The only three things in the way are:
1. Republicans will file multiple daily lawsuits and Democrats are sticklers for The Rules and will halt everything until the lawsuits are over.
2. Republicans will say "that's wrong" and Democrats will compromise by agreeing to hire and approve 2 MAGA loyalists for every other employee they submit to Republicans for rejection.
3. Republican voters are demonstrably the only Americans who will overthrow the government if they think it oversteps.
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cyanescens_burn2 days ago
+3
Yup, this is a coup. No tanks in the streets needed this way, and it’ll slip under the radar for most people that aren’t keeping up with things, and don’t have a lot of knowledge about this kind of stuff.
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BlueFlob2 days ago
+97
Weak on actual crime.
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O_PLUTO_O2 days ago
+66
Well they’re not going to investigate themselves
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zerombr2 days ago
+11
They have nobody to investigate corruption anymore anyways
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Zipps02 days ago
+86
We all knew this going in. It was spelled out in project 2025
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oopsallhuckleberries2 days ago
+39
Come 2029, assuming we have a Democrat as president, all hires during this term are going to have to be reviewed with a fine tooth comb, and there will have to be a second purge of all these agencies. The damage done, the expertise lost, is astronomical.
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EmptyAirEmptyHead2 days ago
+8
Biden didn't do the purge.
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oopsallhuckleberries2 days ago
+18
Because there wasn't a mass exodus/firing of career officials that were replaced with employees that had to pass loyalty pledges to a political ideology during Trump's first term. This time around Trump and friends are literally trying to fire people at least based on the perception those people are liberal or at least not pro MAGA, and only hiring people who are pro MAGA. That's project 2025, to use the conspiracy theory of a theoretical liberal deep state to justify firing career officials/workers and replace them with their MAGA deep state.
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EmptyAirEmptyHead2 days ago
+9
We could have started by not appointing a Republican Attorney General that absolutely failed to hold Trump to account.
We could have started by getting rid of other Trump officials that were destroying agencies (DeJoy for instance).
So its a fantasy to think a Democrat will go after low level employees. That's what Republicans do, and Democrats will never learn the lesson. Let's just hope they slow the bleeding.
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BasroilII2 days ago
+14
I mean, the moment Musk's techbro spies started tearing into every branch in name of efficiency that should have been obvious.
Or was it during Trum's first term when he hired a SecEd who made it plain her primary goal was to eliminate the Department of Education and all public schooling?
Or was it the multitude of times they have tried to destroy the US Post Office
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Adezar2 days ago
+15
That has been the Heritage Foundation's plan since the 70s. Rip it all down, let people starve to death if they aren't fortunate enough to be gifted a job from a billionaire, and dismantle all worker, environmental and safety regulations to let the billionaires kill their employees, not pay them enough to survive and dump their toxic waste into lower-income areas.
That is what Republicans are focused on and have been my entire life.
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DisillusionedPatriot2 days ago
+8
They literally said they were going to do all of this. I'm more surprised at the lack of resistance, than anything else.
E- to be clear, this is a coup. They published their intent, and are executing, to the letter, their takeover, and the only ones who can stop it are to busy working nonstop to keep up with the never-ending rise in the cost of surviving(not living, just getting by), to fight a revolution.
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nelsonalgrencametome2 days ago
+6
That is a staggering number of people.
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TJ_McWeaksauce2 days ago
+4
Unsurprisingly, when you elect a life-long criminal to the presidency, he'll get a bunch of other criminals to help him dismantle the branch of government that's responsible for federal law enforcement.
It's like putting an arsonist in charge of a fire department. And we Americans were stupid enough to do this twice.
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FiscalCliffClavin2 days ago
+1455
And who gains from a weakened FBI? Those who don’t want to be investigated.
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NoHalf29982 days ago
+464
Same people who gain from a weakened IRS
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Kevin-W1 day ago
+7
This to both of these comments. They're gearing up the rig the midterms.
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Nazamroth2 days ago
+45
Liechtenstein? I knew it!
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astralseat2 days ago
+9
Fingers crossed, weakened treasury so they just forget about federal student loans
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schaudhery1 day ago
+3
So Elon for both then.
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Theloneus-punk2 days ago
+42
Since white collar crime is more complex than street crime I’m guessing the owner class will be more protected and street level criminals will be prosecuted more.
Reminds me of a song:
“They’re trying to build a prison. For you and me to live in”
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Feeling_Inside_10202 days ago
+4
System of a down still relevant decades later as they were when I was in college rocking out to this song at the gym, better times at least.
4
kensho282 days ago
+28
Trump is a rapist pedophile and the DOJ is protecting him, there are mountains of evidence, even after they illegally redacted most of the files. You can either believe the actual victims of Epstein's pedophile ring, or you can believe Trump, who is the biggest liar in American political history.
https://www.postandcourier.com/news/epstein-victim-fbi-trump/article_21a2149f-f4a1-4351-9ac7-d12746f03a58.html
>The woman who accused Donald Trump of sexually abusing her when she was 13 provided several verifiable details about her life in interviews with the FBI, according to a new report.
>The woman detailed her alleged abuse by Trump and convicted sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein over four interviews in 2019, the Epstein files revealed. The interviews were initially kept secret by the DOJ.
>A woman who claims she was abused as a minor by both Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump has given the FBI vivid accounts that include aspects of her life corroborated by The Post and Courier through public records.
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Civil-Dinner2 days ago
+754
Decades of experience and expertise have been lost, and it'll take even longer to get back up to speed, because too much of what is left will be people who don't respect the law or constitution.
754
EffingNewDay2 days ago
+157
It won’t matter. The point was to make room for their people.
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diadmer2 days ago
+309
My cousin had 17.5 years of distinguished service with the FBI and full expected to work another 20 years, but he was fired in September of 2025 because his team had worked on Jan6 cases. Mind you, they had managed a 100% conviction rate, so this probably made him even more of a target.
He used to be a reliable Republican voter, too, but he told me it’s like “the curtain has been pulled back” and he can never in good conscience vote for anyone who ever supported or endorsed or capitulated to MAGA or Trump.
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Not_My_Emperor2 days ago
+244
Love how the curtain isn't pulled back until it affects him personally.
There was never a f****** curtain.
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EEpromChip2 days ago
+49
...it was a self imposed curtain he installed himself. F****** republicans never care until it affects them. Self --> Party --> Country.
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Show_Me_Your_Cubes1 day ago
+8
>Self --> Party --> Country
So very true. Look no further than the sheer number of people who vote R in every election because "it makes my taxes better". No introspection on what those taxes pay for, or who they help, or why they exist. Just a cause-and-effect to the number on their bottom line on April 15th. And an ill-informed one, at that.
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DrAstralis2 days ago
+24
Hell; not only was there never a curtain, the GoP practically projected "trump and the gop are malignant tumors" on IMAX daily for decades.....
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GodofIrony2 days ago
+11
The mythical "moral" republican.
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ratchclank2 days ago
+348
Your cousin is the reason he got fired. The curtains where always pulled back he just didn't think they where playing a trick on himself. It's the epitome of conservatives. He only cares now because it effects him now. He got what he deserved.
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Monteze2 days ago
+103
When I see stories like this I wonder, what caused the blinders? Because it was pretty f****** obvious how toxic he was to anyone with a modicum of education, then it only got worse and worse.
Was it that he made it okay to not feel bad about being a little racist? Mysogonistc? Bigoted in general? Was it the funny? Was it cool to have an elected official cracking jokes?
Touched the boiling pot and then was surprised it was hot...I just don't f****** get i.t
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ratchclank2 days ago
+49
He made a certain group feel like they where wearing the boots and wouldn't be harmed when the stomping happened.
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ivosaurus2 days ago
+9
A lot of people have real trouble ever imagining empathy for vague other groups that they have little to do with
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Worthyness2 days ago
+8
Sports team mentality. "My team is Republicans, therefore I always vote republican no matter what.My dad did it, my grandpa did it, and so shall I."
8
beams132 days ago
+163
Dude likely voted for his own demise and only then did he go "wait these people aren't actually good for the country" because he was able to ignore the decades of evidence prior to being personally affected.
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burglin2 days ago
+46
He worked on a case for almost 5 years in which the leader of an entire political party and sitting president tried to overthrow the government *and still* it took it affecting him personally to realize they are bad people. Stunning!
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ethanb4732 days ago
+13
lol your cousin is a f****** idiot then…. That’s the thing that peeled the curtain back??? No the 10+ years of despicable bigotry?
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SecretAgentVampire2 days ago
+13
>I didn't think the leopard would eat MY face!
Your cousin sounds like an idiot.
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rab2bar2 days ago
+6
The leopards are well fed
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kreco2 days ago
+12
To be fair this cannot be taken back.
You can't rebuild an ecosystem like this. It's like 10000% more difficult that hoping that a music band will be reassembled 20 years later.
People will have different job, different priorities. The new people in charge of the group will behave differently, will hire different type of people.
The mindset and the expertise is gone forever.
This is a part of the civilizational collapse.
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dontcthis2 days ago
+3
Millennia of experience at the numbers that were reported
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ShamanSix012 days ago
+233
I’m curious how they intend to rebuild when the convicted felon is still running the show.
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dehydratedrain2 days ago
+110
I think you're catching on.
110
bdcp2 days ago
+21
Yup this was designed
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Otterable2 days ago
+23
I think what people also fail to understand is that people are leaving for ideological reasons because the doj is not doing any actual valuable work. I live in DC and have a friend that has worked with them for many years, joined during Trump's first term and it's so much worse now. Smart person, went to yale undergrad and harvard law. She left because it turns out being forced off of fighting against housing discrimination to do anti-trans work is awful.
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fuckedaccountant39762 days ago
+14
I'm an accountant and they want to hire us so they are able to run down the financial side of crime. Pre Trump I was considering it. Now with Trump I won't touch it with a 10 ft pole.
I do not want to be in the position where my job is to conduct harassment investigations to punish political rivals. I don't want that dirty money in my life.
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Gone2132 days ago
+10
Plus every 6 months youll be going without a paycheck for 2+ months without guaranteed backpay.
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qwarfujj1 day ago
+3
Back pay is already law. Trump himself signed it in his first term. Despite the nonsense they want to spout it's not really a concern.
3
kimapesan2 days ago
+204
Even if they do manage to hire replacements, the next president is going to have to fire all of them because all of them will have been hired for one reason only: Trump loyalty.
These offices are screwed for the next decade.
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Nextasy2 days ago
+94
And that will likely usher in a new norm of sweeping replacements each time there's an election. The "deep state" has been dismantled, except it was never a conspiracy, just skilled people doing their jobs well
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Pip_Pip-Hooray2 days ago
+43
Interestingly, this USED to be the norm. It was called the spoils system and it was textbook corruption.
It took several presidents and Congresses to make it so bureaucrats didn't have to be the same party as their president to work, AND that people couldn't expect their support to end in a job.
You can actually see traces of this in the movie Lincoln, promising specific people specific jobs in return for votes.
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marx2k2 days ago
+66
Firing professionals for doing their jobs in the previous administration wrecks any credibility for your bureau and administration going forward. It doesn't help that you have a complete and utter weirdo sycophantic boozehound at the helm.
As the kids today are apt to say: theyre cooked
Now extrapolate that problem across all agencies under the Trump admin
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R3cognizer2 days ago
+8
Trump and the GOP don't care about credibility. They care about loyalty. They are fascists trying to turn the USA into a fascist dictatorship, and with the current Republican-controlled congress being so firmly in Trump's pocket, the only thing in their way is literally everyone's right to vote with each state having constitutional jurisdiction over their own federal elections.
8
bwoah07_gp22 days ago
+145
Nothing like scrambling after shooting oneself in the foot.
I have zero sympathy for the current Trump administration. Only for the federal workers who have to deal with the chaotic heads appointed by Trump. They are destroying the US from within.
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GoblinDiplomat2 days ago
+124
The credibility is forever lost.
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LuciusCypher2 days ago
+22
Who needs credibility when there's no other organization to rival them?
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Autisum2 days ago
+24
The FBI would be portrayed, in media, as a scary super competent agency that will eventually close in on “the bad guys” like in Dexter. Now with KashApp PayPal, I can’t help but wonder how it’s going to play out in future movies and shows.
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thegooddoktorjones2 days ago
+13
They will ignore it. To show the FBI as biased or worthless would make the money guys who fund their shows upset and turn off the elderly who are the only ones who will actually watch the commercials.
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elegantjihad2 days ago
+5
Narratively speaking, having the FBI be big scary institution that can do anything and has unlimited resources is too good a boogeyman to give up. Having it be a bumbling mess requires a bit more screenwriting experience I think.
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Atlein_0692 days ago
+50
The credibility of the FBI? Wasn’t much left to lose for them. I’d be happy to see it scrapped and rebuilt. The FBI has done more to push racist bullshit and harm minorities than DJT could ever dream of accomplishing.
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sirspidermonkey2 days ago
+25
People really don't understand the messed up things they've done.
* Blackmailing MLK
* [Cointelpro](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO)
* Couldn't catch the unibomber, had to wait for his brother to turn him in
* [Operation Pacifer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playpen_(website)#Website_shutdown) where they were the largest purveyor of CP
* Pretty much everything with [Whitey Bulger](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitey_Bulger)
* And who can forget Ruby Ridge and Waco?
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Silver-Bread46682 days ago
+8
Plenty of people understand the messed up things they've done. They aren't a single hivemind, though.
It's likely most of those who left are not the same types of people as the ones that kind of stuff. That leaves an organization capable of pulling shit like that that's full of people who would pull shit like that.
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Technical_Living51042 days ago
+33
By design. Completely intentional. Corruption needs a firewall.
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zefy_zef2 days ago
+5
Not sure why the headline says anyone is scrambling to rebuild, that's an obvious lie.
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BradKooler2 days ago
+21
The Criminals are right in front of us, Trump being the rapist (by the courts) and now has killed 180 children, with the billions to trillions in military resources and still managed to not gather information to determine a school was being hit, f'n sick, this is why these people hate us! Get this sick certified rapist out of office for abusing children!!
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Sweatytubesock2 days ago
+19
It’s impossible to have a legit FBI or DOJ with a criminal regime in charge (and a completely corrupt criminal as fake head of State).
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kneel232 days ago
+3
and an absolutely incompetent and corrupt one, at that
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yamirzmmdx2 days ago
+48
Lol.
Justice and Trump.
Like fire and oil.
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BeefPoet2 days ago
+10
Oil? did you say oil? where? time to invade.
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More_Combination862 days ago
+13
I wish. I would say more like oil and water since the 2 don’t mix.
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RociBuldidi2 days ago
+12
The DOJ had about 10,000 staff attorneys spread across their district offices and HQ, working on thousands of lawsuits, litigation matters at any given time.
That number has been pretty static for ~25 years.
They are down below 5,000 at this point, between the loyalty purges and the people who quit on their own accord.
The only ones left were the ones who couldn’t leave (family, income etc) reasons or couldn’t (unhirable elsewhere).
So the DOJ is now stuck with the bottom of the barrel, and people too petrified to lose their jobs they do just enough not to be noticed.
This has logjammed the DOJ nationwide. They can’t even get indictments against dudes who throw subway sandwiches at this point.
Why am I laughing? Because this is the best outcome for America. Harder to enact your fascism if you don’t have your team in the courts fighting for it, and the ones that do show up in court are so awful at their jobs the Judges are throwing them out (beauty queen Halligan for example)
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mathteach62 days ago
+4
Idk if it's necessarily the best outcome for America. A weaker DOJ makes it harder for the federal government to enact fascism, but it also makes it much easier for criminals to enact their will. Billionaire class is only gonna get richer.
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Ryno4ever161 day ago
+3
Then the strengthened billionaire class just captures more government and the cycle continues. The ratchet tightens.
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Sweaty_Marzipan42742 days ago
+10
For the agencies to fully recover after this round of chaos management, it would take a solid decade of stability and safety. Which won't happen bc of our system. The damage is largely permanent and the next MAGA will rise and destroy what was rebuilt.
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nvmenotfound2 days ago
+10
if obama had done to the govt what trump and his admin have done they’d have declared him satanic and in bed with the enemy to bring the US down from within. bc i can’t think of another reason why you’d sabotage your govt and standing in the world. so much pissed away with allies and the next three years will only solidify those divides while they find new relationships that won’t rely on the US. sigh, it just sucks having to watch it unfold.
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id10t_you2 days ago
+10
Republicans have run on "government doesn't work" for decades and they prove it every time they're elected.
Democrats f****** suck, but Republicans are a f****** black hole
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iownachalkboard72 days ago
+3
And somehow these chuds still want to be a world superpower. Hey idiots, please tell me of a world superpower that can contend with rivals but is actually a teeny tiny small government?
F****** dumbasses.
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spondgbob2 days ago
+10
I wonder what the collective years of experience that have been lost since this regime/administration took over. Probably several millennia
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PressFforAlderaan2 days ago
+7
~ 20% of just NASA alone, if you were referring to government loss as a whole. That’s huge when it’s mostly senior folks training younger ones.
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Gold_Interaction_4322 days ago
+11
The entire f****** government has been gutted and replaced with religious wackos and yes-men. This kind of shit is only meant to happen in f****** Nigeria, what in the f*** have we done? All because we didn’t want to vote for a woman?
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spin_kick2 days ago
+5
Pretty much. My father didn’t like how she laughed.
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Tapdncn4lyfe22 days ago
+3
My father refused to vote for her bc she was a woman of color..My sister and her idiot boyfriend said oh we didn't want to vote for a woman bc they don't know what they are doing half the time and running a country is serious business. I'm like so if dad ran the country he'd know what the hell he is doing, and she was like absolutely because he is male..Like how fuckin stupid..
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Arik_De_Frasia2 days ago
+10
I'm sure they'll fill those roles with completely qualified people...right?
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GlassAwfulEmpty2 days ago
+8
All new hires have to pass a Trump admin loyalty test. That's not a joke.
Every federal employee newhire now provides an essay about how they agree with the administrations policies and what they will do to make them even more effective.
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+33
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adumblittlebaby2 days ago
+10
People died protesting, and before this is over even more will lose their lives, but I guess that doesn't fit your snarky narrative.
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ice-eight2 days ago
+6
The fact of the matter is, these days, if you are involved in litigation with the federal government, all you need to do to make it go away is publicly praise Trump and grease the right palms. If you are a large company and don't do those things, you will find yourself involved in litigation with the federal government. Either way, the actual facts of whatever case they bring against you are irrelevant.
The people that have been hired are counterfeit lackeys. They literally couldn't indict a ham sandwich.
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Shiresire15652 days ago
+6
If we even get out of this it'll take us two decades to fix everything that's busted
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Neversoft4long2 days ago
+5
Scrambling to fill it with white supremicist. This is gonna be a rot and cancer that is gonna take years to get rid of if we ever do
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Dumpsterfire_472 days ago
+6
“After being intentionally gutted and purged of institutional knowledge.”
FIFY
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fullmoon632 days ago
+10
Government agencies don’t move fast to begin with, so rebuilding is gonna take time.
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civemaybe2 days ago
+10
They will never be rebuilt. We are returning to a pre-20th century America where the federal government was a fraction of its current size and power to regulate and enforce.
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Western-Corner-4312 days ago
+5
Rebuild into an entity that serves only the whims of the regime
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Rogue_AI_Construct2 days ago
+5
Well yeah. They’re being run by people who are only working for one man - Donald Trump. They are supposed to be working for the American people.
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Dorkamundo2 days ago
+5
Hmmm, I wonder why an individual who was under investigation by the DOJ and the FBI would want to cause chaos in the DOJ and FBI?
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Competitive-Ad-94042 days ago
+5
Probably hard to find attorneys who will do what Trump wants after having been trained in law, government and the constitution.
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A_Nonny_Muse2 days ago
+8
Guess who they're hiring?
All maga conservatives.
If there's not a massive, major purge of the govt. as soon as Democrats take over, these people will remain dug in like an Alabama tick, and these problems will never go away.
But Democrats are infamous for not doing what needs doing.
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Lorenzoak2 days ago
+28
Maybe if they stopped auto-disqualifying every top-tier cybersecurity expert just because they smoked a joint three years ago, they wouldn't have to scrape the bottom of the barrel
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Stock-Airport38802 days ago
+18
It's actually 1 year for marijuana use. It's 10 years for any other illegal drug.
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unafraidrabbit2 days ago
+13
Its ridiculous that the people tasked with investigating drug crime admit through hiring policies that the schedule 1 marijuana is less harmful than the rest of them.
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civemaybe2 days ago
+7
To be truly effective, a good narcotics agents must know and love narcotics. In fact, a good narcotics agent should have narcotics in their blood.
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CrashB1112 days ago
+6
Im sure with the current group it's less that drug use is disqualifying people.
And more that they will only hire those that swear unfaltering loyalty to Mango Mussolini.
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Heimerdingerdonger2 days ago
+4
Where will we find people of the moral caliber and intellectual capacity of Kash Patel?
I guess we'll have to recruit at Maga Rallies after the keg party.
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KarAccidentTowns2 days ago
+4
Trump: “Mission accomplished”
Meanwhile insecure Kash Patel using government resources to surveillance his girlfriend
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Baxterftw2 days ago
+5
Sounds like a sweet lateral promotion will be coming for some of those underqualified ICE officers
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BrofessorFarnsworth2 days ago
+4
They should just hold off, we will have to purge everyone and rehire with the next administration anyway
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EmergencyCucumber9052 days ago
+4
That's the idea. Mass firing and then hire Trump loyalists.
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Zaga9322 days ago
+4
Putin & Xi laughing themselves silly. Crippling the USA from the inside out turned out to be laughably simple.
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bbills912 days ago
+3
You mean most people don’t really want to work for a fully weaponized “law enforcement” agency? The ones that ignores laws broken by right wingers and trumps up charges against those exorcizing their first amendment rights? I’m shocked
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EZKTurbo2 days ago
+4
Why would they scramble? RIF was the whole point. It was literally spelled out across every iteration of this administrations agenda
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bakeacake452 days ago
+3
They will rebuild hiring not based on merit but race, gender and loyalty to Trump.
We will just fire those unqualified white boys at the first opportunity
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themustachemark2 days ago
+3
Maybe the FBI wouldn't have these problems if the director wasn't drinking on the job
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Sir_thinksalot2 days ago
+5
They are going to hire so many more corrupt assholes.
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boxdkittens1 day ago
+4
Everyone make sure your Fox news watching family members are aware of this. It demonstrates to them that the DOGE cuts were never about "cutting govt spending" since fed employee salaries make up a negligible amount of the federal budget.
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Bullyoncube1 day ago
+5
People with an interest in justice or the law need not apply. The application now includes “Describe how you will help carry out the President’s agenda.”
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unchangingtask1 day ago
+4
Whoever hired by Trump admin in these four years would need to be removed immediately once a new government take over. These people are not qualified at all and are only hired because their ideology to Trump.
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Far-Set-3712 days ago
+7
Well apparently trump didn’t need Musk and his doge cuz they have done it to themselves
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amcfarla2 days ago
+7
DOGE did exactly what it was supposed to do, and that was end investigations in Elon owned companies.
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SouthernButterbean2 days ago
+3
I feel terrible for the employees who remain and have to work under these conditions. It's not as easy as get another job. A lot are near retirement & just trying to hold on until they can.
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InTooManyWays2 days ago
+3
Rebuilding with Nazi loyalists I bet.
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africanlivedit2 days ago
+3
I was a new employee at ODNI and was let go only after 6 months.
Still recovering … my mental health from being let go for no other reason just for being new is … well, my mental health is shit. Was devastating losing my dream federal job for no reason except being new.
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Memitim2 days ago
+3
Republicans worked so hard to corrupt the US justice system that they undermined its basic functionality. That sounds about conservative, alright. On the up side, these organizations would have to be completely disbanded for America to have any potential chance to find a path forward from further destabilization and failure, so having greatly reduced headcount should help to speed the closures along.
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NotOK19552 days ago
+3
That’s just the tip of the iceberg…after last year’s DOGE slash-and-burn of federal employees, our nation’s intelligence community has been greatly weakened.
It won’t be long before enemy nations cause great harm to our country…and our greatest enemy is the person in the White House, and his minions.
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ConsciousSkyy2 days ago
+3
It’s way way too late. They’re both destroyed already and a shell of what they were
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Strange-Effort13052 days ago
+3
The DOJ's only function is to enrich and enable their god- don trump
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Huge_Strain_87142 days ago
+3
"Streamlining, not lowering standards..." fvck these loyalists for putting America in this vulnerable position....actually tRump is recruiting the best criminals and kingpins into his cabinet so that keep them occupied for a year or two with grifting and criming from inside the White House
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MODELO_MAN_LV2 days ago
+3
I thought it was kinda weird that my glass door spam has had a LOT of FBI analyst positions clogging up my feed.
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thegooddoktorjones2 days ago
+3
Don't you want to work here in our completely partisan hack department where you will sacrifice your credibility and career to help very unpopular criminals get away with more crimes?
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okram2k2 days ago
+3
that's exactly what they want, remove all the old guard that had any sense of ethics and replace them with loyal pawns
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rangecontrol2 days ago
+3
ice is prolly taking their best supremacists.
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Consistent_Voice_7322 days ago
+3
You can replace headcount faster than you can replace expertise
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nyaaaa2 days ago
+3
Thousands of counts of Treason. Just add them to the pile.
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Podo132 days ago
+3
Yes, and it's being rebuilt under a completely ignorant, inexperienced, morally bankrupt crew.
If we don't crush them at the polls in ~6 months to stop them as much as possible, we're toast.
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Positive-Room74212 days ago
+3
When the Democrats regain power, priority #1 must be to review each and every person hired into DOJ and FBI during the Trump-Epstein regime. We cannot tolerate having compromised individuals or traitors in critical departments.
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MWH19802 days ago
+3
“Do you wanna investigate and jail people?”
“Sure.”
“Can you look the other way on abuse and negligence.”
“Always have.”
“Welcome aboard.”
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blixt1412 days ago
+3
Who's applying? DHS has all the proud boys.
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firephoxx2 days ago
+3
In the next administration, anyone who signed a loyalty pledge will be instantly fired
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Curleysound2 days ago
+3
Surprised they haven’t just dismantled them both and create the department of punishment with doom judges running about.
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Fenrir462902 days ago
+3
And they will be replaced with drastically under qualified people and the whole thing will be a shit show.
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play_images2 days ago
+3
We really pulled a stalin huh?
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Roofer7553-22 days ago
+3
If you don’t lick the boot,you’re ostracized,so it really leaves no choice.
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Apprehensive-Pin5182 days ago
+3
Project 2025. fire anyone not loyal to the administration and then hire a bunch of sycophants.
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Affectionate_Neat8682 days ago
+3
If an Administration was speedrunning the destruction of America, they wouldn't be governing in any other way.
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wacoder1 day ago
+3
"We're not lowering standards" while they lower standards. Hilarious.
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ROEdkill8201 day ago
+3
Facism 101, get rid of all who disagree then rebuild. Be careful who they pick and how they "rebuild"
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kummer5peck1 day ago
+3
I anticipate this will happen in a lot of federal agencies after the tide turns in Washington. The money was appropriated by Congress. Trump and his goons just decided not to use it.
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JC19491 day ago
+3
The idiots who have been elected to run the United States have completely undermined the capacity of their own government to protect the electors. At some point, this is going to become evident to those who want to do harm to the United States. Nobody will connect the dots when it happens.
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whk19921 day ago
+3
They are filling spaces with incompetent agents or worse, grifters and puppets.
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FnordRanger_51 day ago
+3
You’d have to be a scumbag to seek out a federal job in magamerica
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Toddcraft1 day ago
+3
Everyone in the administration is just trying to steal as much money as possible before their time runs out.
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ObliviouslyDrake671 day ago
+3
Hey FBI hire me! You know where I live.
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Tarmogirl1 day ago
+3
Haha, finally I can copy those videotapes without the FBI hassling me!
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Deep-Assignment41242 days ago
+6
Well they don’t wan to rebuild as anything other than a gestapo for too so that limits the applicant pool.
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AvailableReporter4842 days ago
+6
It’s almost like this is exactly what the wealthy elite with direct flights to baby f*** island want. Salute to conservatives and republicans for their ongoing support of these people by being their pawns for nothing more than a promise to hurt day laborers and the 8 trans middle school kids in the country.
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Qweniden2 days ago
+5
I have a family member who was fired by the FBI because they made an arrest of January 6th insurrectionists at the capital. It has basically ruined their lives. Tons of other FBI agents have been fired for similar reasons. There are an enormous amount of lawsuits because of this. It is infuriating.
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