FDA announces its first OK of fruit-flavored e-cigarettes for adults in major shift under Trump

That was before his family had a chance to invest in the vape companies.

Trump's entire MO is that he should get paid. If he's not getting paid, then it's illegal. But so long as he's getting paid, anything goes.

Well they were banned in the first place because big tobacco cut him a check. I guess they stopped paying. Or the vape industry paid more.

He canceled the Iranian nuclear deal so he could spend tens (hundreds?) of billions of dollars to fight a war and end up with a worse deal. And this congress has passed fewer bills than any other in history. Truly a historic presidency in terms of accomplishing jack shit.

It’s fruit flavored FOR ADULTS. 1 week long studies show that e-cigarettes are not habit forming. Also fruit flavoring in e-cigarettes are thought to be a healthy substitute for parks and other green spaces in urban environments. The sale of those green spaces can provide a third or fourth safe space condos for many at risk billionaires.

It was Melania who got off her ass and advocated for restricting e-cigarettes, particularly flavored products in 2019.

I'm sitting here with my strawberry kiwi vape - the same kind I've smoked for 3 years - and wondering what I missed.

He banned flavored vapes until the tobacco companies were ready to release their substitute

"make america vape again" has a ring to it lol

MACA I think. Make America Cancerous Again.

his motives have always been to make more money for him, his family, his current friends, and his future friends. then he just puts a bullshit spin on why he does things and says that publicly.

Probably lithium mines.

Donald Trump and Phillip Morris are the only two people i trust with my well being.

People are complaining about the fruit flavor attracting people to vaping, but are ignoring the reverse: these vapes will get people hooked on fruit, which we should be eating more of. MAHA!

If they're going to ban flavored vapes they're going to have to ban flavored alcohol, regular cigarettes, etc. It just won't work.

Apparently they are also lifting a federal ban on tanning beds too.

It would be funny if they authorized snap to cover it. Wouldn’t surprise me in the least.

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Their problem is making a decision what they are against based on prior statements. They have to check what Trump is hyping now and get the bullet points from fox.

Shooting themselves in both feet and then shoving those feet in their mouths while mumbling "why would the democrats do this!!!"

They banned flavored jul pod style vapes, but not the disposables you are seeing.  So people can still smoke flavors, but they have to throw away their battery every time, creating a ton of e-waste with landfills full of lithion ion batteries. If they aren't going to ban everything, which I doubt they will, at least let smokers use the pod systems to cut down in e-waste.  It's not like this ban has stopped kids from getting the gas station disposables either

Those aren't FDA approved and use various loopholes (one of which is why they are all disposables now)

Depends on the state too. Wisconsin has banned all non fda approved flavored vapes.

Because his buddies own the companies that sell fruit flavored e-cigarettes, of course.

You see, when Republicans regulate things, it's only so they and/or their associates can profit off the changes in the industry.

If I may offer a counter argument to what many are saying which will focus around the flip flop of trump and flavors being non essential and strictly a way to market to kids: I can understand the marketing to kids as a valid concern 100%. Especially with the candy packaging and the availability in gas stations etc. However, as someone who smoke and only found success in quitting smoking by vaping, and then was able to quit vaping, flavors were perhaps the most important part of moving away from cigarettes for me. So for starts, things like the gum or patch don’t work on the oral fixation. Vaping allows you to essentially smoke with some fairly substantial harm reduction (not arguing it’s harmless, just arguing it’s a step in a safer direction). So it’s a good first move. Secondly, when vaping is used as a cessation tool, Jsut like the patch or gum, you can slowly reduce the amount of nicotine in the fluid. Many brands sell various levels of nicotine so you can taper off over time, and if you mix your own it’s even better because you can really be certain of the levels and really decrease it a lot. So where do flavors come in? We’ll, as you’re working on slowly decreasing your dependency on cigarettes, or perhaps you’ve already switched full time to the vape and are now reducing nicotine, the goal is to not fall back into the cigarettes. Vaping a big bonus is that the flavors are much much more enjoyable than the admittedly bad taste of cigarettes. Same for the smell. This is a major win for the vape. When you vape the smoke feels a little different. The device doesn’t feel the same in your hand as a cigarette. It doesn’t always hit you the same as a cigarette did, so you can still feel a deep compulsion to go back to cigarettes from time to time, but on those days, or even during a relapse where I fell back on a cigarette, I often found myself revolted by the taste and smell within a few puffs. In short, the flavor can help keep you from relapsing onto cigarettes by providing one major advantage to a smoker over the cigarette. However, how do we solve the other issue about marketing to kids? Well, I think it’s pretty easy. You need to move vaping (and tobacco for that matter) into their own stores or sections where it can be adult exclusive. It’s not like alcohol isn’t crazy dangerous with all kinds of fun flavors. I think it’s hilarious for example Massachusetts outlawed flavored cigarettes and vapes, but you can still buy sour apple vodka or an alcoholic root beer no problem and nobody ever had an issue there. I live in CT currently and we have tobacco shops and vape shops abound. Flavors legal. But it always strikes me that we could protect children by simply saying okay, you know what, it is a little nuts to have tobacco and vapes flavored like apples and candy just chilling at the gas station register. I totally get why parents would be upset. And no wonder kids keep getting these things when you’re relying on a gas station attendant for your ID check. But if you simply mandated, okay, vapes, tobacco, alcohol. All flavors are legal cause adults can make their own decisions, but to protect kids, these things need to be sold in their own establishments that are 21+ only, it would prevent a lot of issues and lead to less underage sales while retaining access for adults who should be allowed to make their own decisions

I got of cigs with vaping. When I started I thought getting one of the cigarette flavored versions would be best. Makes sense, right? Tastes like an ashtray. And I know people say that - but they usually just talking about smoke. An ash tray is a very specific type of smell that can even bother people that smoke. It does not tastes like cigarettes. And it tasted like that. It was so damn gross.

because tobacco flavored ejuice sucks

Because people like nicotine and people like smoking and giving them a way to get the nicotine in a way they like more than smoking and in a way that is healthier than smoking is a net positive

Agreed, as a smoker. Even if you can't get off nicotine completely, at least you can smell better. I like the flavors, and after a few days, cigarettes start tasting bad in comparison. Hate Trump, and I think it's financially motivated, but I still think they shouldn't be banned.

They helped me break a 10 year cig habit. Stopping vaping, which I just did, was also extremely difficult but I never felt physically sick like I did smoking cigarettes

I used it to quit cigs. Now I can’t even stand the smell of one and I don’t wake up coughing a lung like I did with cigs.

I support smoking too. Now, I think it’s unhealthy and gross, and I sure don’t want to do it. And I hate secondhand smoke. But if you like smoking and you want to do it in the privacy of your own home, well, life is short. Who am I to tell you no and deprive you of a thing you like during your limited time on this earth? Lots of stuff people like is unhealthy.

I was wondering... I remember it being a headline but then nothing came of it. I didn't realize it happened to gas station vapes, don't know why anyone would waste their money on that c***.

This is also only for a single company and “Users must first verify their age with a government ID on their cellphone. The e-cigarettes can then only be used when connected via Bluetooth to the phone of the verified user.”

A data-connected vape?  *Palantir starts drooling*

God YES PLEASE because this administration makes me want to take up smoking 🤣

Ferengi Rules of Acquisition?

Creme brulee as well.

The kids today are pretty good at stealing their parents information.   I can also see many of parents just buying these things for their kids(and friends) and giving them their ID to bypass these "safeguards" 

“Users must first verify their age with a government ID on their cellphone. The e-cigarettes can then only be used when connected via Bluetooth to the phone of the verified user.” 

Adult smoker here who quit cigarettes with the aid of fruit flavored vapes. The fake tobacco and menthol are terrible and just made me want to smoke. My state has banned all sales of flavored vapes other than tobacco and menthol. These laws may force me to go back to smoking because the flavors i can stand aren’t available.

As a doctor who has to try and counsel kids against smoking, I've read the research. And I promise you, the tobacco companies have read it to. They know flavored products increase the chance kids will use their products, or they wouldn't make them in flavors and create kid friendly marketing. [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0376871623000728?\_\_cf\_chl\_tk=Vsz6vmtdE573B4V1YpmZH\_YinWvgdiFAyN.xgAO6Sz8-1778099098-1.0.1.1-sAHyM.hjcDv5iuemTMeYEqOjVGjT1Y58LclolDd6xyg](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0376871623000728?__cf_chl_tk=Vsz6vmtdE573B4V1YpmZH_YinWvgdiFAyN.xgAO6Sz8-1778099098-1.0.1.1-sAHyM.hjcDv5iuemTMeYEqOjVGjT1Y58LclolDd6xyg) Edit: For what it's worth, most vapes sold are flavored, but they're usually tobacco or menthol flavor. Data suggests kids are much more likely to use fruit or candy flavor, which is why the legalization of fruity vapes is a specific concern to child marketing.