Anyone who's had Shingles will tell you to get the vaccine. It's 2 shot vaccine and both are required.
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ViolettaQueso5 days ago
+228
And they are linked to better outcomes of general aging past 50 aside from saving you from the worst most torturous pain you will ever endure. Shingles may have started as chickenpox but omg it presents like hades has overtaken your nervous system suddenly and you won’t be able to stand it.
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External-Praline-4515 days ago
+78
Recent studies show it also may reduce the risk of dementa.
https://www.bmj.com/content/389/bmj.r722
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ViolettaQueso5 days ago
+54
Yes. Before we cancelled health science here, this study and others were about to be so life changing for so many older Americans, their families, and our systems of care giving,
Thanks for the link, friend.
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Symphonize5 days ago
+5
Just a note, that data was in regard to those that received Zostavax, the older, less-efficient (\~50% efficacy) vaccine that hasn’t been in use since 2018. Shingrix, the 2-dose series with about 90% efficacy has been routinely used since its approval in 2017
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OtakuMage5 days ago
+4
Shingles basically sent my grandmother into a rapid dementia spiral.
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External-Praline-4515 days ago
+1
So sorry to hear that.
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Discount_Extra5 days ago
+24
I was concerned something similar might happen with COVID when it was found to have nervous system effects (loss of taste/smell sensations), that it might lurk in the nervous system for a long time, then flare up the same way.
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ViolettaQueso5 days ago
+19
I completely had same thoughts. The neurological results combined with the increase of diabetes and its symptoms seemed to me a bit like urgent onset of MS or another autoimmune disease,
I wish our studies would’ve continued. It could mean immunizations to prevent lupus, MS, cancers. Vasculitis, etc. and other inflammatory diseases like congestive heart failure.
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wyvernx025 days ago
+7
I have seen stuff that suggests there may be a link between Epstein-Barr virus (Mono) and various cancers as well as MS. If we were ever to get a vaccine for Epstein-Barr, it could potentially make a noticeable impact on other things as well.
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WaluigiIsTheRealHero5 days ago
+7
You know as well as I do that the last thing this admin wants is further research into anything with Epstein in the name.
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Dry_Departure_78135 days ago
+6
I lost my sense of smell for 6 solid months, as in, 6 months of smelling absolutely nothing. When it did came back, everything smelt like vile chemicals. Like my coffee smelt the exact same weird chemical smell as when I'd fill my petrol tank. My doctor said I should get a "smell training" kit of essential oils, to gradually train my nose to smell properly again. Which actually worked. I'm sort of concerned about the long term effect that had, that shit ain't normal
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davereit5 days ago
+53
Shingles ten years ago: the sickest 6 weeks of my life so far. Got the vaccine this January without hesitation or regret.
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Symphonize5 days ago
+2
Don’t forget the second dose if you haven’t gotten it yet. (Assuming Shingrix)
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davereit5 days ago
+2
Sure did! The second shot gave me a bit of flu-like symptoms for a day or two—but no other issues. (Other than no longer being eligible to donate blood that might pollute the veins of antivaxers!)
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June_Fatality5 days ago
+48
My mom didn't gat vaxxed. Shingles went from hand to eye to brain. That was a rough time, and the beginning of the end.
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prostatooshun_whorah5 days ago
+17
Same with my dad. Absolutely horrific way to die.
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Icy-Elk36985 days ago
+36
I kept getting reoccuring monthly shingles flare ups in my late 20s and early 30s. Doctors confirmed it was shingles but said I was too young to get the vaccine. Absolutely infuriating. They seriously need to drop the bullshit age limit and let anyone get the vaccine. More and more people in their 20s and 30s are getting shingles and unnecessarily suffering due to the age limit.
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p0llyp0cketpussy5 days ago
+16
You can get it if you're immunocompromised, and they don't require any proof. I got the vaccine at 33 because I have a heart transplant, but all I did was go to CVS, signed up online for the shot, and checked a box that said "yes I have a condition that compromises my immune system and leaves me more vulnerable to shingles". Nobody asked any other questions.
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Training-Earth-97805 days ago
+8
Safeway p******* refused me but good to know CVS did it!
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BeIgnored5 days ago
+2
Got my shingles vax at CVS as well when my normal clinic refused. It'll depend on the pharmacist, so if one refuses you go at another time or find a different CVS. And yes, when scheduling your appointment state that you're immunocompromised. They're not supposed to ask for proof.
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CheeseSandwich5 days ago
+11
That's weird. Here in Alberta my friend had shingles at 30 and that qualified him for Shingrx after he recovered.
I am pretty sure you can get it in the U.S. just by indicating you are immune compromised by virtue of having shingles.
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jgainit5 days ago
+7
I know at least 5 people who got it in their 30s, including my sister. Makes me want the vaccine. I’m 34
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BeIgnored5 days ago
+1
Try CVS and state you're immunocompromised when you schedule (they're not supposed to ask for proof). It may depend on the pharmacist, so on the off chance they refuse try another time or location.
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WestCoastBestCoast015 days ago
+3
Shop around for doctors, offer to pay cash instead of using your insurance. CVS wouldn't do it (automated appointment system), but my primary did. I got the shot last year at 33. She had never given the shot to someone my age before so she needed to look into it, but was fine with it after looking it up. $170 was worth the peace of mind knowing I won't have to deal with that shit.
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BeIgnored5 days ago
+1
You're probably already aware, but you can still get it if you've been vaccinated; however, it's MUCH less likely and the pain won't be nearly as bad.
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sanslumiere5 days ago
+24
Hey, not going to harsh someone's buzz if nerve pain that lasts for months to years (post-herpetic neuralgia) is their thing.
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albanymetz5 days ago
+19
Anyone who has a television will tell you that if you've ever had chicken pox, the shingles virus may already be inside of you.
Man I hate medical commercials. Also, both shots hurt, one took me out for a day, but I do not want shingles.
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pile_of_fish5 days ago
+10
After watching a coworker get an ocular shingles outbreak... I am definitely team vaccine.
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Bzr215 days ago
+13
I'm in my early 60's - got the 2 Shingrix shots last year - about 2 -3 months apart - for me anyway the next day after the shots felt like I was getting over the flu or something ( for about a day and a half maybe ) For those who are unsure - yes the Shingrix shots are a bit rough compared to regular flu shot & covid vax - which does nothing to me really - but I've heard enough people say how truly awful getting shingles is so feeling a bit rough for a couple of days is a small price to pay to avoid something far worse ..
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Awkward_Silence-5 days ago
+10
Don't forget to get the chickenpox vaccine and reduce the risk in the first place.
Pox isn't an inevitable part of childhood anymore like it was once treated as
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quats5555 days ago
+2
I had a super mild case of chicken pox when I was very young, and Mom warned me I may not have much immunity and should avoid carriers. And some time in the early 2000’s it suddenly occurred to me that I had not heard of anyone having chicken pox in… years. And I discovered the vaccine had been developed and distributed since, and was absolutely amazed.
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CheeseSandwich5 days ago
+2
Yes, my daughter is nine and got chicken pox vaccine. She won't ever have to go through that itchy, scabby nastiness.
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randy_palomino5 days ago
+13
It sucks more than you think it does. It’s a f****** mountain of suck. It is an awful experience.
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CheeseSandwich5 days ago
+5
I got it as soon as I hit 50. Not sure why they have an age qualification for this vaccine because it can hit at any time in your life. I had a bout when I was in my early 20s.
The first shot didn't really do much to me, but the second dose completely knocked me on my ass. I felt like I had the flu for two days.
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Baud_Olofsson5 days ago
+3
> Not sure why they have an age qualification for this vaccine because it can hit at any time in your life.
Vaccines are only approved for use in groups they have been tested on (this is why, as you might remember, the first COVID vaccines were only approved for adults, but then the approved age gradually dropped - because the manufacturers did the trials for progressively lower ages).
Clinical trials are *horrendously* expensive, and more expensive the more people you have to include and the longer you have to follow them - and the lower the risk of contracting a disease, the more people you have to include in the trial. And the risk of shingles increases with age, increasing much more sharply around the 50-year mark. So the manufacturer (GSK) didn't feel it was worth it to include under-50s in their trials.
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Symphonize5 days ago
+1
IIRC, after approval in 2017, a lot of insurances wouldn’t cover Shingrix for ages 50-59, because although it was FDA approved for ages 50+, ACIP hadn’t updated guidelines, and their recommendation was 60+ based on zostavax studies.
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CheeseSandwich3 days ago
+1
Yes, that makes sense.
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Training-Earth-97805 days ago
+2
How far apart are the 2 shots?
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Morat204 days ago
+2
Second shot needs to occur between two and six months after the first shot. You've got a big window on that.
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CheeseSandwich5 days ago
+2
If I recall it was two months.
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FlippingPossum4 days ago
+2
I get all the vaccinations my doctor recommends. I had shingles in my early-20s. My case was mild yet incredibly painful. I was at student health the day after I noticed the rash. I still get freaked out if that area of my back itches and I'm now 47.
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SitInCorner_Yo25 days ago
+1
That shit sucks,got your vaccine everyone , 6y ago I had a first and so far only experience with shingles is just above my left eye, which is one of the worst places to have it imo.
My eye keep getting watery and it took days for someone on my job to tell me that doesn’t look like a acne, went to a big hospital they took a photo of me for the required paperwork to get special medication for this “urgent situation”, my eyesight was cloudy for weeks after I recovered and I still have nerve pain on my face sometimes .
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Successful-Winter2375 days ago
+1
10000% seeing my partner suffer through shingles wa hell (he unfortunately got it in his early 40’s) so before he could get the vaccine under insurance
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AudibleNod5 days ago
+751
Guys, I'm beginning to think the convicted felon who cheated on his wife and ran for president may not be the best choice to be in government. No, I'm talking about the other guy. The one born into wealth and privilege. Yep, that one.
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MonoBlancoATX5 days ago
+198
The brain worm guy?
Or the shits his pants guy?
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Jonsnoosnooze5 days ago
+107
The rapist guy
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where_is_the_cheese5 days ago
+109
You're going to have to be more specific.
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Late-Arrival-86695 days ago
+43
He punched a 13 year old after she bit his peppy..
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Khaldara5 days ago
+14
I think I can help narrow it down:
“The one who has worked harder at protecting the interests of pedophiles more than they have at literally anything for actual Americans for the last fifty years”
That way it only includes every single elected conservative official. And by extension, their voters.
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Secret_Cow_50535 days ago
+3
The one whose face looks like rawhide.
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PhoenixLoop91375 days ago
+6
Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?
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AudibleNod5 days ago
+45
Which one buried his ex-wife in a less than dignified location?
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jimtow285 days ago
+14
Which ex-wife?
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fossilnews5 days ago
+3
You're assuming both haven't experienced these problems.
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MonoBlancoATX5 days ago
+15
Oh no.
I’m explicitly NOT assuming that.
In fact, I left it vague on purpose.
Poopy pant brain worm guy knows what he did.
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_Schrodingers_Gat_4 days ago
+1
Kid Rock hates when you shit in his hot tub... but is still willing to lick it up for the benefits.
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Saneless5 days ago
+16
Who cares about the president, what does the guy who cuts off racoon penises think about it?
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Bigred2989-5 days ago
+2
Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
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ice-eight5 days ago
+82
One of my coworkers is currently on leave battling lung cancer and the other day everyone in his row of cubicles was agreeing that it was caused by the covid vaccine because one guy read on Facebook that vaccines cause cancer. Even though the guy with cancer has repeatedly told people that it was caused by exposure to burn pits in Iraq
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gotohellwithsuperman5 days ago
+169
Can’t have facts contradicting sensitive conservative fee fees.
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marblecannon5125 days ago
+24
What ever happened to Kelly Anne Conway?
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gotohellwithsuperman5 days ago
+19
She shriveled up into nothing.
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gangy865 days ago
+5
A dustball of hate regretted
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SuperSpecialAwesome-5 days ago
+16
She tweeted out n**** of her underage daughter then disappeared.
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CatrionaShadowleaf5 days ago
+7
Every once in a while she says something heinous enough to make the day’s news but she’s very outclassed as of late.
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June_Fatality5 days ago
+5
She has to sleep for 27 years, then she rises to kill again. Jeepers Creepers was her family lore.
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Pitiful-North-27815 days ago
-4
Even though trump did the operation warp speed thing for Covid?
-4
mofa902774 days ago
+4
The problem with Trump trying to take every side of every issue simultaneously is that some of his lies get stuck in people’s heads and never leave. Had he not vilified Fauci and the CDC while Fauci and the CDC were pushing operation warp speed, he’d have been able to unambiguously claim victory when it succeeded only one month behind the UK.
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what-the-squanch5 days ago
+118
Censoring the scientific method. Holy shit.
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jigokubi5 days ago
+44
I suspect this doesn't really surprise you. There's a reason scientists overwhelmingly vote for Democrats. (hint: they're smart)
And there's a reason this administration has been attacking science. Because science is based on establishing facts, and these people do not like facts.
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Curmudgeonadjacent5 days ago
+72
Not only safe, but have proven long term positive health benefits!
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AudibleNod5 days ago
+29
Imagine having to care for someone long term, not just because they're ill or infirm; but because they're MAGA.
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NotUniqueWorkAccount5 days ago
+2
What is that saying in Rocky by Drago? I forget
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blankvoidoid5 days ago
+32
Who needs vaccines when we have raw milk, ivermectin, and bleach? We're so fucked
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Haunting-Ad7885 days ago
+4
Ivermectin, made by Merck, which doesn’t count as big pharma because reasons.
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SNRatio5 days ago
+23
Anyone feel like running some clickbait ads on some dodgy sites? "Read the vaccine toxicity study [THE GOVERNMENT DIDN'T WANT YOU TO SEE!](https://2025ispe.eventscribe.net/fsPopup.asp?PresenterID=1839098&mode=posterPresenterInfo)"
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bloodlessempress5 days ago
+4
We need the Onion on this...
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Slim7065 days ago
+11
The government hid information in order to support their narrative? No, not our government!
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RainyDayColor5 days ago
+14
There’s gaslighting. And then there’s institutionally weaponized gaslighting with lethal outcomes.
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troveofcatastrophe5 days ago
+1
So murder? Manslaughter? Reckless endangerment? At least a civil suit ? Doctors in the FDA get their license yanked for ignoring their oath to “first do no harm”? Something! Anything!
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KDR_11k5 days ago
+2
Social murder. This regime LOVES doing social murder.
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Uncle_Hephaestus5 days ago
+13
of course they tried to cover it up they did they same with the covid vaccine study. too bad it leaked. they are trying to kill americans...
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ClintBruno5 days ago
+4
If someone went out of their way to cover up the vaccines not being safe.... conservatives would have a f****** fit. But when there's actual proof their side is using fuckery. They're dead silent.
Dear Conservatives: what the f*** is wrong with you?
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RaydelRay5 days ago
+3
I had the shingles vaccine, but still got it when my immune system was trashed. It wasn't terrible, most likely because I had the vaccine. I know people who went through hell with shingles.
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SerenaYasha5 days ago
+3
My husband got shingles every 7 years until he got the shingles shot
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arose10245 days ago
+4
I had shingles when I was 17. Thankfully, I haven’t had a flare up since. I had a mild case and it sucked. Right at my belt line. Get the vaccine.
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Affectionate_Tip_9345 days ago
+11
their own scientists did the study. got blocked from publishing. why would you hide data that helps your case lol
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Majestic-Assholes5 days ago
+36
"Vaccines are safe/good" is not the case the pedo admin wants to make
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Wiseduck55 days ago
+31
“Their” scientists are our scientists. Dedicated public servants doing their jobs.
Which runs contrary to RFK’s antivax agenda.
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sanslumiere5 days ago
+14
Our scientists did the study with public tax dollars, and our ridiculous Administration squashed the results because they didn't align with their nonsense rhetoric about vaccines.
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troveofcatastrophe5 days ago
+4
How is RFK jr going to continue to make millions off vaccine lawsuits, if they say they’re safe?
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Kevin6867665 days ago
+3
Thank God we have such a great FDA that they are going to spend time and money supporting even more effective vaccines.
They don't want research findings about the effectiveness of the current vaccines because they are funding research to make better ones.
That has to be the reason. It could not be for any crazy political reasons. They are actually trying to help people. I am having a stroke by trying to rationalize this.
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troveofcatastrophe5 days ago
+1
Not gonna lie, you had me at the first half. I can guarantee this will be used by the cult members who aren’t anti vax but are pro maga. It’s insane, absolutely bat shit crazy.
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Kevin6867665 days ago
+1
[ Removed by Listnook ]
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wonkytrees15 days ago
+9
How many people did that kill, these f****** murders need to be held accountable one way or another.
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JunkReallyMatters5 days ago
+4
Dastards!
Also Bastards, and just plain turds.
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SleepingToDreaming5 days ago
+2
Covid vaccines are dangerous and damaging; uneducated Fox News watchers said so.
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StoreRevolutionary705 days ago
Let the MAGA crowd skip the vaccines and watch the Darwin effect in action.
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SaltyShawarma5 days ago
+23
A society needs the vast majority to be vaccinated to benefit from vaccines. They are killing us because they are dumb and scared.
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Squire_II5 days ago
+1
Someone should've had the report fall off the back of the internet truck in to the hands of every major media outlet when the FDA blocked publication.
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MrMichaelJames4 days ago
+1
I got the shingles shots. Ugh was I sick after them but better than getting shingles. Get it on a Thursday you’ll be good to go by work on Monday. Spend the weekend in bed in misery and sleeping.
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jgainit5 days ago
+1
Bumping for visibility
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heartattack-ak-ak-ak5 days ago
Republican base their science on the Old Testament.
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