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Questions & Help Mar 24, 2026 at 6:50 PM

Flea - Thinkin About You (Frank Ocean Cover) (Live on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon) [Jazz]

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goatsukel Mar 24, 2026 +206
Flea plays trumpet on Mars Volta’s album Frances the Mute
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Obi_Wan_Benobi Mar 24, 2026 +32
He played Teen Spirit on trumpet (the solo, at least) live with Nirvana in…1993 I believe.
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johnnycoxxx Mar 24, 2026 +10
Yup I absolutely love that video. RHCP Green Day and nirvana tour I can’t even imagine
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roncraig Mar 25, 2026 +1
Bootleg recordings of RHCP, Nirvana and Weezer were my lifeblood as a teen in the late 90s/early 00s.
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I-STATE-FACTS Mar 25, 2026
Wow two good bands on the same tour
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ZachMartin Mar 25, 2026 -2
That also sounded really bad too, but it was grunge where it was like punk and cool to not be great at your instrument.
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frankyseven Mar 24, 2026 +43
And a few songs on Stadium Arcadium.
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masterhoots Mar 24, 2026 +24
and plays trumpet in Halo 2's sound track, "4th Movement of the Odyssey", along with the Incubus band members (who did all of the Movements of the Odyssey and I feel it is some of their best work)
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davismcgravis Mar 25, 2026 +9
Incubus and flea were apart of the Halo 2 soundtrack??
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masterhoots Mar 25, 2026 +8
Incubus did all four Movement of the Odyssey and Flea collaborated in the 4th Movement. They're all on YouTube if you search for it - worth listening to, it's a badass jam.
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Ok_Iron_9650 Mar 25, 2026 +2
Amazing!  ❤️ 
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No_Potato_8178 Mar 26, 2026 +2
Damn I hadn't thought about this since high school - thanks for the blast from the past mate
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kingtuolumne Mar 24, 2026 +14
Ah shit I saw mars Volta open for rhcp 20 years ago. Makes sense now. Mars Volta didn’t make sense then
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andyroo84 Mar 25, 2026 +9
Queens of the Stone Age was also on that tour. Pretty epic lineup
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PreguntoZombi Mar 25, 2026 +5
Flea and John Frusciante are both on the first 2 Mars Volta albums. And Omar Rodríguez-López has collaborated with John on his solo albums over the years. Seem pretty close
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mBertin Mar 25, 2026 +2
Omar plays a solo on Especially In Michigan from Stadium Arcadium. Underrated song.
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chappersyo Mar 25, 2026 +1
John also played on Deloused
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URThrillingMeSmalls Mar 25, 2026 +2
Oh that’s cool I did not know that!
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vibe4it Mar 24, 2026 +4
Mute woulda been good here, too
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5centraise Mar 25, 2026 +1
And Jane's Addiction's Nothing's Shocking.
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bobdylan66 Mar 24, 2026 +27
JEFF PARKER
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watusiwatusi Mar 24, 2026 +9
Anna Butterss also, like usual recently with JP
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FuzzyRo Mar 24, 2026 +3
the whole ETA crew really !
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SDBolt Mar 24, 2026 +50
We need more horns in modern music
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offoutover Mar 24, 2026 +40
The double-bass player is Anna Butters. Anna is an amazing bassist in their own right and is also part of an eclectic jazz ensemble called SML that are very much worth [checking out as well](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QV6wwsY3DM). edit: link
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mcwilly Mar 24, 2026 +14
She’s been playing in Jason Isbell’s band recently too.
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ANinjaForma Mar 25, 2026 +3
It must be wild playing bass for one of the world’s most famous bassists! 
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offoutover Mar 26, 2026 +1
From some of the photos posted by some of those musicians I think they all share a pretty common respect for each other, including Flea. Flea purposely assembled a band of world class musicians and he knew who he was getting. Two of those people are from Tortoise which is a storied and incredible band so I think he's probably feeling the same way being around some of the best musicians you can get.
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DC55449 Mar 25, 2026 +2
Oh wow! Thank you for posting this! Amazing! I will definitely look more into Anna. I’m a very amateur bass player and that clip is so inspiring!
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galileos_mooninites Mar 25, 2026 +2
In addition to being a great player, Anna is also just a very nice person. We were in some shared scenes and I was always impressed by her
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offoutover Mar 25, 2026 +1
Oh wow, that's amazing to hear.
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5centraise Mar 25, 2026 +1
I was hoping she and Flea would pick up his bass and play some lines with her to close out her solo.
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Burgoonius Mar 24, 2026 +173
A lot of hate here for whatever reason. Music’s not meant to be perfect and fleas just doing his thing. I thought this was a nice vibe
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bforce1313 Mar 24, 2026 +46
I don’t get the hate, it’s just chill. I wasn’t wowd, but my thought was “oh this is kinda nice.”
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I-STATE-FACTS Mar 25, 2026 +5
Why is it hate to point out his playing is flat or out of tune which it is.
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bforce1313 Mar 25, 2026
I think you should re-read your comment
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I-STATE-FACTS Mar 25, 2026
I don’t hate it, but it is still bad.
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bforce1313 Mar 25, 2026
So you don’t like it then. lol and that’s fine. I don’t mind it, it isn’t amazing but I’d put it on while I’m working or something.
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Jesus_Ebenezus Mar 24, 2026 +13
Claypool or Flea are the best bassists alive now imo. Its incredible that he can play both instruments at a very high level. His bass skills are elite obviously but his trumpet skills have been noted his entire life.
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yousyveshughs Mar 25, 2026 +3
Geddy Lee.
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Zackeous42 Mar 26, 2026 +1
"Who's Geddy Lee?" "Geddy Lee! Best bass player, ever!"
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yousyveshughs Mar 26, 2026 +1
I don’t mean to sound like a queer, but I find fire very romantic.
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Amiro77 Mar 25, 2026 +4
There are dozens of bass players with much greater technical skills than those. I'm a bass player because of guys like Flea and Claypool but guys like Hadrien Feraud, Felix Pastorius, Henrik Linder, Federico Malaman to just name a few have gone way beyond anything Flea and Claypool ever could. Edit to add Mohini Dey, Anton Davidyants and Gabriel Severn to the list. Edit 2: and guys like Victor Wooten, Marcus Miller and Stanley Clarke have always been better than Flea and Claypool too. They're still around and I've seen them past year, still amazing. 
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thc216 Mar 25, 2026 +1
I’m not a huge fan of the band but surely John Myung deserves a mention as well
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yourcousinfromboston Mar 24, 2026 +38
Reddit could have chosen to be anything. It chose to be negative about everything. All the time
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bigtime1158 Mar 24, 2026 -28
Pretty sure the hate is just for flea. He's an objectively horrible person.
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Burgoonius Mar 24, 2026 +17
Yeah he did some gross stuff in the 1990s when he had substance abuse issues - people can change brother
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bigtime1158 Mar 24, 2026 -17
Nah man. He's still a super d*****. You can find videos and stories of him being awful to people, throwing temper tantrums and just all around acting like a complete d***.
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maghy7 Mar 24, 2026 +17
My cousin was his daughter’s nanny and she never had a complaint about him, on the contrary she always said how nice he was to her and everyone that worked for him that she got to be around. My son also went to his music academy and he is loved there! Idk where all this stuff comes from.
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BERND_HENNING Mar 24, 2026 -33
For whatever reason? For the reason that this is objectively bad. He plays trumpet like some random kid in a high school bigband that would rather play video games and his 'jazzy' bass playing is also cringe. You're right, music doesn't have to be perfect, but he surely has more than enough means and ways to promote his own stuff. They should rather bring some actual talent on there than unc with his jam.
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cowboygas Mar 24, 2026 +18
Yeah, Flea is “bad” at bass - 😆
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BERND_HENNING Mar 24, 2026 -12
His 'jazz'-like playing sounds like someone thats very unsused to play jazz and his trumpet is out of tune + he's not playing in time/its not grooving. I don't get why thats such a big deal to point out.
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cowboygas Mar 24, 2026 +6
You're probably correct about the jazz bass side - that's not his thing but who cares I guess? It's like criticizing Michael Jordan for playing baseball at a mediocre level
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prion77 Mar 24, 2026 +2
How HATEFUL of you 😂
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Amiro77 Mar 25, 2026 -1
If you've ever heard him slaughter Teen Town then you would know he sucks at jazz bassplaying yes. 
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prion77 Mar 25, 2026 -1
He sang Media Blitz on the Small Circle of Friends tribute to the Germs and somehow managed to make a Germs song unlistenable. The f****** Germs. And I say this as a fan of the Germs. Flashy bass playing aside, I honestly think his musical sensibilities are just not that great.
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Amiro77 Mar 25, 2026
Absolutely. Downvoters are either deaf or can't comprehend the fact that being famous for something doesn't mean being good at that something. 
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ItWasMyWifesIdea Mar 24, 2026 +6
I'm actually with you here... I love Flea's work and he's a big influence on my playing. I even like the melody and groove in this song. But his playing was unusually sloppy on both instruments. I wondered if he was nervous because he's not usually so "out front" and doing his own project.
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blyan Mar 24, 2026 +29
Lots of really strong takes on both sides of the coin here. I guess I'm mostly somewhere in the middle. It was fine. It was a nice chill vibe. But if this was done by anyone who wasn't already very famous, no one would care at all. It certainly wouldn't be featured on late night tv. It's okay at best.
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TheWhitman Mar 24, 2026 +25
Is this a bit? Bass playing does not feel up to par for what I know he can do, and the trumpet is certainly coming in strong, but it’s also coming in flat.
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J---O---E Mar 24, 2026 +5
He’s a self-taught legend
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bemunay Mar 24, 2026 +38
Good idea....completely self-indulgent. I laughed at how big of a back up band he had for how small and flat it sounded lmao
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prion77 Mar 24, 2026 -30
Omg and the cheering when he starts blowing on the trumpet. I’m sorry, there’s no way they went through sound check or rehearsal without one of the string players raising concern about how this sounded.
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eltedioso Mar 24, 2026 +33
Yikes, something sounds off about his trumpet intonation. Like he's flat across the board.
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Noregard86 Mar 24, 2026 +41
That's just the jazz bro
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whutchamacallit Mar 25, 2026 +9
No but seriously flea is out of key here.
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Noregard86 Mar 25, 2026 +3
He's a bit out of tune, not the end of the world. Definitely not out of key 😉
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comuloid Mar 25, 2026
he's playing multiple instruments live, it's fine.
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prion77 Mar 25, 2026 +1
It sounds objectively bad because every instrument in the group is tuned to the same relative pitch except for his trumpet. So he is just tooting along and either he can’t hear the difference in pitch, or he doesn’t care and no one in the band had the guts to say “tune your trumpet, a******.” If Frank Ocean sang it flat when he did it on SNL, it wouldn’t be fine either.
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Amiro77 Mar 25, 2026 +1
It's not fine, it's shit. It doesn't matter how many instruments someone plays, if they're not in tune it will sound like shit.
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hasslehaas Mar 24, 2026 +16
The trumpet totally isn't in tune with the band. It hit me with the first note. Ouuuuch. Trumpets have tuning slides you can adjust, and this one was not adjusted to the band :-)
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BigSoda Mar 24, 2026 +9
Lol a few days ago in another jazz-related sub some people were saying what a great trumpet player flea was. I saw maybe a saxophonist respond by saying he had seen him play at a jam and described it as “not happening”, which sounds polite but is a hella diss in the funny language of jazz “cats”. Basically the jazz equivalent of “user saxguy SLAMS and RIPS flea’s trumpet playing!!!”
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shpydar Mar 24, 2026 +8
I mean... the trumpet is his first instrument and jazz his first passion. >Flea's stepfather, jazz musician Walter Urban, frequently invited musicians to his house for jam sessions. The family moved to Los Angeles, California, where Flea became fascinated by the trumpet. He attended private lessons taught by [Jane Sager](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Sager). He had no interest in rock music at the time, instead idolizing jazz musicians like [Miles Davis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis), [Louis Armstrong](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Armstrong), and [Dizzy Gillespie](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dizzy_Gillespie). I agree it sounded flat to my ear too.... but I am not a lover of jazz.
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ZachMartin Mar 25, 2026 +3
Being out of tune and the genre jazz are two somewhat related but unrelated things. Being out of tune can sound bad in any genre. Being familiar with jazz specifically has nothing to do with being in tune. Jazz typically refers to one or some of the following characteristics: 1) instrumentation 2) improvisation 3) syncopation/feel 4) jazz harmony. By some measure this checks some of those boxes. The quality of his playing specifically though is far below the standard any casual listener of this music would expect.
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BigSoda Mar 24, 2026 +3
It’s not great, but it doesn’t bother me. He was maybe a lot better when he was younger before setting off to sail with the bass. If I was rich and famous I’d make professional LA musicians be my own personal big band too. I just thought it was funny to hear jazz cliches like “sound ain’t happening, man” to criticize flea’s jazz playing. Jazz dudes have their own manner of speaking, and it’s from 1957
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ZachMartin Mar 25, 2026 -3
Having a passion, and spending time to actually learn the art form are two different things. Flea has not spent the time necessary to make his trumpet sound good or how to improvise in this style. It's grossly apparent and not ready for a stage other than a local community theatre. Love his bass playing, but this is crazy.
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shpydar Mar 25, 2026 +1
You made some Interesting assumptions such as Flea hasn’t spent time learning how to play jazz trumpet. One other point I didn’t make in Flea’s journey is that in 2008 Flea [enrolled in the University of Southern California](https://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/flea-returns-to-school-to-study-music-175834) taking Theory, composition and jazz trumpet and RHCP took a 2 year break at the time so he could do that full time. Again that particular song played live sounded flat to me but again I don’t know jazz….. But assuming he “has not spent the time necessary to make his trumpet sound good” sounds more like you talking out your arse then having any actual knowledge of Flea or his skill. I’ll also point out this is not [Flea’s first jazz album](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Burns_(EP))… So even if you d******* (as you have done) Flea’s early musical education, it is clear Flea has been working on his jazz trumpet seriously since at least 2008…. So some 18 years now
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BigSoda Mar 25, 2026 +2
If he’s worked so hard on this and spent so much time learning the music, why can’t we hear that?
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ZachMartin Mar 25, 2026
Nah bro. I toured internationally as a jazz trumpet player. I taught hundreds of students in high and college. I’m not talking out of my ass. He sounds like a good high school level. If you like it, cool. One of my favorite artists and teachers has a criminology degree. I’m basing my opinion on his sound and his playing, nothing more. He didn’t put in the time.
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BigSoda Mar 25, 2026 +6
Can’t believe this is up for debate lol. Sadly this is probably the first time a lot of people have heard a trumpet feature
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ZachMartin Mar 25, 2026 +3
Some people just like to argue. I’m still a huge RHCP and Flea fan, but this sucks!
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ZachMartin Mar 25, 2026
And that jazz album is as good as Jeff goldblums…
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BigSoda Mar 25, 2026
Or Andre 3k’s, or Shatner
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ZachMartin Mar 25, 2026 +1
I’m washed myself, but if I paid for top session musicians like these guys, you can sorta put out a decent album with an amazing band…
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BigSoda Mar 25, 2026 +1
Ha I’m on your side bro bro, I don’t think it’s good. But if I was rich and famous in southern california I would absolutely have my own murderer’s row of a big band that had to play with me
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ZachMartin Mar 25, 2026 +2
Check out the album Seth macfarlene put out. It’s actually decent, but he stuck to crooning, not pretending to be a jazz pianist.
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ZachMartin Mar 25, 2026 +1
Send me the flier, I’ll be sitting front row
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BigSoda Mar 25, 2026
I can confirm that this isn’t good and you’d likely find better teenagers in most undergraduate music programs. That being said maybe it’s not fair to judge this on technical merits, but the music is so uninteresting that you can’t really make a case for it being rough technically but creatively really artistic. Just kind of bad. Anyone can go to music school btw, I did lol
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prion77 Mar 24, 2026 +12
This is what sort of gets me about this: there are countless competent jazz players honing their craft and you’re never going to see them on Fallon or Kimmel, etc. they’re playing in clubs, casinos, and the festival circuit for meager wages. “Not for ambition or bread” as Dylan Thomas wrote. If you’ve heard good jazz performers, you’re not praising this performance.
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Oo0o8o0oO Mar 25, 2026 +3
I’ll do you one better, nobody would really want to hear even Flea play jazz trumpet on Fallon or Kimmel if he wasn’t also covering a very popular Frank Ocean song. There’s a reason he’s not playing some original composition.
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ZachMartin Mar 25, 2026
They’re right and I’m sorry if this hurts your feelings. It’s like a chess grandmaster mocking 1600 level play and me being like, I don’t understand, that move looked fine to me…
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RomeliaHatfield Mar 24, 2026 +7
I also thought this. Still a good performance
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Full_Boysenberry_198 Mar 24, 2026 +5
Yeah, it’s a “no” from me, dawg
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johnnycoxxx Mar 24, 2026 +1
Yeah his intonation is a little flat. Maybe it has something to do with his in ears but having listened to “France’s the mute” probably 200 times, this is just the tone he plays with.
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Porro-Sama Mar 24, 2026 -6
isnt alot of jazzand blues detuned down a half step?
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eltedioso Mar 24, 2026 +9
That's not what I'm talking about
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Amiro77 Mar 25, 2026 +1
No. And if it is, it's not just one instrument. 
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prion77 Mar 24, 2026 +41
Pick a key any key! Something tells me his sense of pitch is warped from having to endure Anthony’s tuneless caterwaul for 40 years.
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jrey0707 Mar 24, 2026 +55
sounds to me like he's playing in key - theres a few chromatic sections but that is a pretty big staple in jazz.
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mBertin Mar 25, 2026
lmfao these armchair music connoisseurs wouldn't survive five minutes of Coltrane.
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prion77 Mar 25, 2026 +2
I don’t think John Coltraine’s intention was to challenge the listener more than this flat warbling does.
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mBertin Mar 25, 2026 +1
lmao do you even know anything about John Coltrane? Yeah, nothing challenging about Om, Ascension, or his later quartet performances. Even Giant Steps is enough to put most people off.
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prion77 Mar 25, 2026
Oh come on. Om an objectively lousy record released against his will. His contemporaries made better “out there” records (Eric Dolphy’s Other Aspects for example). Ascension and Giant Steps may put most people off, but in the same way 20th century classical music does. It’s not for dilettantes but it was deliberate, intentional work for the sake of advancing the idiom. Flea playing a flat trumpet and being unable to tastefully navigate the harmonic structure of the tune with his solos is just bad. He’s not trying to challenge the listener intentionally. I can’t believe we’re comparing John Coltrane to this performance.
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jrey0707 Mar 25, 2026 +1
its alot easier to just say "this doesnt do it for me" or "i dont like RHCP" than whatever you are trying to say. youre talking about "navigating harmonic structure" when hes playing over a 4 chord song . he is literally just mimicking the vocal melody from the original frank ocean song 75% of the time he is playing the instrument. by the way - he knows he isnt a great jazz musician - [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CJJD2Kn098o](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CJJD2Kn098o)
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prion77 Mar 25, 2026 +1
Yes, he’s mimicking the lead vocal line 75%, and maybe it would’ve been slightly better if he did it 100% of the time because he doesn’t have the chops to cut loose. But it still wouldn’t sound good because his instrument is flat. Literally what I’ve been saying since the start. Ask yourself why you’re so bothered by this criticism. If Frank Ocean sang the whole tune flat on SNL, would you defend it? This is not rocket science, but if you can’t discern a good performance from a bad one, that might explain why you’re struggling with “whatever it is” I’m trying to say.
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jrey0707 Mar 25, 2026 +1
saying "he sounds a bit flat" is valid criticism. saying "pick a key, any key" is not, and the rest are just subtle jabs at either flea as a musician or at RHCP. you just very clearly dont like the artist and thats fine. the "whatever it is your trying to say" is just you smelling your own farts lol.
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prion77 Mar 25, 2026 +1
I never mentioned RHCP and I suggested Anthony can’t hold a tune, which is also a valid criticism shared by thousands of people who’ve observed RCHP outside of a studio environment. This is pretty established fact in the decades this group has been together. There’s also lots of additional valid criticism of this performance in the thread. Again, ask yourself why this criticism triggers you so much. Are you a fan of RHCP? Does the criticism feel like a personal attack? And further, can you explain why no one has articulated how this performance can be considered good? It seems the more I articulate why it’s bad, the more personal you get with your responses to me.
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prion77 Mar 25, 2026 +1
Also “pick a key, any key” is valid given he is clearly flat. Doesn’t matter if it’s “a bit” flat in which case it still doesn’t work because he’s not in tune with the other instruments, or whether he is flat by a half tone or more, in which case he would be playing in another key entirely and still sound terrible.
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prion77 Mar 24, 2026 -16
My dude it’s not the chromaticism. Even the diatonic passages sound bad because his instrument is not tuned to the same reference pitch of the other instruments in the ensemble. This is the sort of problem you hear in a high school marching band or garage band rehearsal.
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jrey0707 Mar 24, 2026 +17
respectfully disagree. the main melody that carries pretty much the entire song sounds fine. youre splitting hairs talking about intonation - might be a little out of tune but come on lol. that is not "pick a key". your average listener (especially on the tonight show) is not going to pick up on that at all.
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steffschenko Mar 24, 2026 -14
Nah pretty much every note he plays is flat
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jrey0707 Mar 24, 2026 +19
simply not true
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the_main_entrance Mar 24, 2026 -8
Simply not true……PERIOD!!!!
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LarBrd33 Mar 24, 2026 +23
Y’all are haters.  I think this is Flea’s best work since Back to the Future 2. 
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chadhindsley Mar 24, 2026 +5
Tell me you know nothing about jazz without telling me
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OandO Mar 25, 2026 +2
You have to listen to the notes he's NOT playing.
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prion77 Mar 25, 2026 -2
Lmao. I could do that at home, daddy-o! Now lemme tell you somethin bout JAZZ…*cue some tuneless scat singing*
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oneplusetoipi Mar 24, 2026 +3
“Tuneless caterwaul “ is the perfect description. Thank you.
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eltedioso Mar 24, 2026 +22
Anyway, here's caterwaul
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Noregard86 Mar 25, 2026 +1
Says the guy who doesn't know what key means.
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prion77 Mar 25, 2026 +1
Bro you could have a PhD in key signatures and it’s still not going to make this performance sound good and you KNOW this, which is why you’re arguing semantics instead of what many of us have already pointed out in this thread.
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PaintTheWatermelon Mar 24, 2026 +9
The harmonies in the original version of this song really shine due to the simplicity of the arrangement. It's just a basic midi drum part, a few string synths and the vocals. This version is so hamfisted and just boring... and out of key. Sorry bro shit is whack
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Adanbuenosaires Mar 25, 2026 +2
I love Flea. but i can´t hear this.. so flat out of tune.. is really disturbing
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Conspiranoid Mar 25, 2026 +2
Is it me, or the trumpet's out of tune? It sounds flat.
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ZachMartin Mar 25, 2026 +8
This is terrible. This is high school jazz band level trumpet playing and improvisation. How is this possible?
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prion77 Mar 25, 2026 +3
Every comment here pointing out his flat sound has a response like “you just don’t know music theory”, or “guess you don’t know JAZZ”, but also like “ah, the average person can’t tell.” But I mean, like average people are noticing? And to your point, the criticism is fine for a HS jazz band, but a pop star emits an anemic squawk through his trumpet and “bravo, glad he’s trying something new!”
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ZachMartin Mar 25, 2026 +1
I’m happy to explain what makes this terrible, and if people truly enjoy this I’m happy they enjoy it. But I have a feeling it’s more people thinking ‘hmm, I don’t care for this but maybe it’s because I don’t know is a lot about music.’ Nah, it’s bad, and I’ll explain why you don’t like it. If you do like it, I’d argue you’re just enjoying the talented background musicians, arrangement, and orchestration behind him.
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TrashyMcTrashBoat Mar 25, 2026 +1
Besides the fact that i think he sounds flat, can you explain what else sucks?
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ZachMartin Mar 25, 2026 +4
Yes he can’t stay in tune. He has no motif ideas for his improvisation, he’s playing outside the changes and not in a hip way (like cells or pentatonically for example). He is playing out of time, and not in a hip way. His tone is rough and not centered. Listen, it’s art I guess so ultimately it’s in the eye of the beholder but he clearly hasn’t spent the time to work on this area of his craft. I guess he doesn’t have to? But it’s like a celebrity finger painting and people throwing it up in the MOMA next to a Keith haring… eDIT - "changes" = harmony. The most important thing in improvisational music is harmony first. Sorry I'll try to give an example. First a quick background. IN improvisation, people generally think about it in one of two or both ways...as a notes of a chord, and/or a scale. So for example, let's say you have a C major chord - C E G. But in jazz, the 5th is optional (G), and you have extensions, 9 (2), 4 (should be #4 generally in Major because a natural 4 conflicts with the 3rd, E, and #4 is typically represented in #11, and 13 (6). The basic harmony would generally be C6 (C E A), or CMa7 (C - E Bnatural). C is the bass. With everything, it might be CMa13,9,#11 (would never be notated like this but bear with me), which is a scale. C D E F# (G), A, B natural. All these notes should good. Then you can add leading tones and the chord tones generally are great on downbeats. There are exceptions to every rule, but this is a good starting point. Flea doesn't do any of this shit. Which is really odd because he follows a lot of these improvisational guidelines in his funk bass playing, it's very confusing.
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prion77 Mar 25, 2026 +2
Yeah, this pretty much nails the problem with the performance beyond the trumpet intonation. I was also going to add his tone is not good in part because he is likely tired from having to hold the bass. Someone already mentioned he looks gassed. If you’ve ever played any kind of brass instrument, you know it’s physically demanding and this is a 60+ yo man who’s lived hard. A more competent brass player could have made it work but the trumpet is such an odd choice for the tune to begin with. And the lead melody on bass guitar also just doesn’t work musically. When the double bass player starts riffing, she sounds a thousand times better than him. Her lines have less ornamentation than his and it still sounds better because her note choices are better, her instrument is better matched with the ensemble, and her instrument is tuned properly.
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Amiro77 Mar 25, 2026 +5
Because he's rich and famous. It's absolute dogshit.
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watusiwatusi Mar 24, 2026 +4
Album releases Friday I’m pumped. Killer band
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BlackenedFish16 Mar 25, 2026 +3
Sounds like absolute garbage imo
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5centraise Mar 24, 2026 +4
Probably not the best number with which to debut his new project, but I like that he's trying something new. The two or three snippets I've heard from the album remain promising.
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akeep113 Mar 24, 2026 +2
Wow that was bad. And I love that song and Flea but man, that was bad.
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augustdaysong Mar 24, 2026 +2
is this the "a potato flew around my room" song
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theboyqueen Mar 24, 2026 +2
He's actually older than Miles was when he was doing this sort of thing ("Human Nature", "Time after Time", etc).
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tommyjohnpauljones Mar 24, 2026 +9
Damn.... just looked it up. Miles died at age 65. Flea is 63 now.
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Amiro77 Mar 25, 2026 +2
Please let us not compare what Flea is doing to this trumpet to Miles in any way.
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I-STATE-FACTS Mar 25, 2026
I mean miles too was pretty crazy during his later years.
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theboyqueen Mar 25, 2026
They are both playing pop tunes on trumpet. Why not compare?
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Amiro77 Mar 25, 2026 +1
Because Miles Davis is one of the best trumpet players and jazz musicians in history, and Flea is an amateur on trumpet who disgraces the instrument. 
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theboyqueen Mar 25, 2026
You've just compared them
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prion77 Mar 26, 2026 +1
More of a contrast
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YoureALiar_IDontblvU Mar 25, 2026
Miles played and released covers of popular pop tunes... his whole life
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Amiro77 Mar 25, 2026
Miles could actually play. And he also created an incredible amount of very innovative original music. 
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YoureALiar_IDontblvU Mar 26, 2026
What does that have anything to do with what I said? I revere Miles Davis. That was simply the culture of jazz, covering pop and show tunes. Often it was innovative too. The comment I was replying to inferred he had only done that in the 80s. Which is very, very incorrect.
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BalonyDanza Mar 24, 2026 +1
Trumpet's loose during this performance. No doubt. But man... I love this cover. I've been listening to the recording on loop since it was released.
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the_moosen Mar 25, 2026
I don't understand the hate, I thought that was great
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I-STATE-FACTS Mar 25, 2026 +1
Did you read the ”hate”? They’re pointing out his playing is flat and out of key which it is.
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the_moosen Mar 25, 2026 +1
*shrugs* I still think the song is great
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ButtChugPizza Mar 24, 2026 +1
Is this the a****** that got Marty McFly fired!!??
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Vajernicus Mar 25, 2026 +1
#EVERYTHING BESIDES LOVE IS COWARDICE
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roncraig Mar 25, 2026 +1
I like that Flea has always chosen to do oddball shit. He's an incredible musician, but still an artist despite all the money he's made. I love that.
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Adanbuenosaires Mar 25, 2026 +1
I hope it was just nerves and a bad night. I can’t believe he prepared his whole life for this and still can´t play the notes in tune. Or worst, he cannot hear the correct pitches.
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prion77 Mar 25, 2026 +1
I think you’re probably right. He probably doesn’t hear well and not in the sense of hearing loss, but that he doesn’t train his ears or listen critically. It’s a skill that has to be worked on and you’d be surprised at the number of well known and popular musicians that are shockingly bad at this.
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MartyBenson69 Mar 24, 2026 -1
Damn I saw this today and thought it was so cool and such a shift from his RHCP sound. I say this as an avid jazz listener too. Can’t believe all the hate he’s getting in here.
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ZachMartin Mar 25, 2026 +3
Goes to show how people care more about celebrity than actual substance.
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Ickythumplol Mar 24, 2026 -8
He's a huge bass player, he really can talk with it. On the trumpet... not so much, but still so expressive. I'm in hype for the album.
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kuuups Mar 25, 2026
Funny take from "experts" here. I could watch this clip without audio and I'd still be floored and appreciate it, why? Just imagine being in his life, being as good at what he does and keep doing it for as long as he has - then just out of nowhere do something ELSE, in front of millions without giving a f*** AND enjoy the hell out of it. Thats the point of artistry, of creativity, of SELF expression. Cynical fucks here is why we have those bland assholes winning awards year in and year out.
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Jamaican_Herb Mar 24, 2026 -4
Interesting... Probably best that (the multitalented) Flea concentrate on either the trumpet, or the bass? ![gif](giphy|Tdcv28CNarkzs9o5Ru)
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geek_fit Mar 24, 2026 -2
I mean...good for him for putting himself out there like this. Sounds like elevator music to me. I kinda had a flash back to sitting at the dentist listening to "KOOL 104.3 - smooth easy listening."
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MrBeekers Mar 25, 2026
This was so refreshing
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goteamnick Mar 24, 2026 -15
Well, I guess Flea is less talented than I previously thought.
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Mahatma_Ghandicap Mar 24, 2026 -16
Boooooooooring
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Jesus_Ebenezus Mar 24, 2026 -4
Most incredible musician of our time?
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Jesus_Ebenezus Mar 25, 2026 +1
I just love stoking the fire
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Amiro77 Mar 25, 2026
He's not even the most incredible musician in the Chili Peppers. Or even in this band for that matter. 
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I-STATE-FACTS Mar 25, 2026
He absolutely is the most talented musician in the chili peppers.
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Amiro77 Mar 25, 2026
That would be John Frusciante...
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I-STATE-FACTS Mar 26, 2026 +2
Big fan of both.
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Amiro77 Mar 25, 2026
Look at how Flea is struggling with that simple melodic bassline at the beginning. You can't seriously think he's more talented than Frusciante. 
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I-STATE-FACTS Mar 26, 2026
He was off here that’s for sure but that doesn’t speak to his whole musical career. Huge fan of both him and frusciante. Both are talented in their own way but flea has more experience and breadth.
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Foreverdumb666 Mar 25, 2026 -5
F*** this guy
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GarySparkle Mar 25, 2026
Its wild to me how much his arrangement of this song makes it feel like late-era XTC.
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galileos_mooninites Mar 25, 2026
Been around a lot of jazz, and agree he was flat. But there was a certain charm to it, because it is him. I think it’s ok to point out that it is not a professional-jazz-level performance (he also could have been nervous- his bass mistakes imply that he might have been)
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_pinned Mar 24, 2026 -8
he looks like he's getting gassed playing that trumpet.
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possiblywithdynamite Mar 24, 2026 -23
Who names their child Flea?
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Im-Old_Gregg Mar 24, 2026 +1
![gif](giphy|MuAmuj8fnmk4rMJ8e9)
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I-STATE-FACTS Mar 25, 2026
That’s not his given name.
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OppositePerson Mar 24, 2026 -3
It's no weird fishes [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rDUT2cvelw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rDUT2cvelw)
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LeBigMac84 Mar 24, 2026 +1
What do you mean 
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pl4yswithsquirrels Mar 24, 2026 +1
Was just listening to this last night. So good
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sageotter Mar 24, 2026 -7
What a great set by Will Ferrell!
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ChocolatePringlez Mar 25, 2026 +7
You don’t even have the right RHCP member to make that overused joke.
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GrecoRomanGuy Mar 25, 2026 -1
Eh. Nice to know he branches out.
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