Florida bill against marrying your first cousin fails

Yeah, it was a 30 page bill with the cousin marriage being one small part.

They do that intentionally, hide other things than lead with the ONE thing everyone agreed was bad, so they can say shit like, "Hey look, the Democrats wouldn't vote for our bill that outlawed eating puppies!" when the bill had a dozen or so really awful things in it too.

Bills should contain one law not whatever the f*** we want to staple together today.

no that is a clickbait bill

I haven't been keeping up with the mj issue in Florida the last few months, but they really need to get their shit together, hopefully will be the first domino to fall in the south.

So politics as usual…

With that said if this was the only thing that was in the bill Republicans would absolutely vote against it 100%.

Bobby Sue took the money and run

Les Cousins Dangereux

Yeah people from the US might be surprised but first cousin marriage is pretty much legal in most of the world.

This -- legal in most of Europe as well.

For what it's worth, I saw a study several years ago that, in the US, the gene pool is sufficiently diverse that first cousins having children is really not much of a birth defect risk.

Doing my genealogical tree I found two instances of first cousins marrying each other (from totally unrelated families). In both cases, the marriage entry in the parish book mentioned the name of the priest who did genealogical research before giving dispensation. Back then, the Catholic Church would allow these marriages only with a dispensation following a verification to make sure the couple didn’t hqve a history of close marriages. Cousins getting married is not a serious issue if it only happens once in a family, it’s when it starts happening often that it gets bad. Today, they recommend genetic testing for people who are related or even if you are from certain regions with lower genetic diversity and known recessive diseases. Heck, Iceland has an app for people to make sure they’re not too closely related.

Yeah, so around the time when things like phrenology and eugenics were all the rage, there were some theories that first cousin inbreeding was the cause of "idiots" in society. IIRC modern studies have shown the risks of birth defects in one-off first cousin inbreeding isn't that high -- it's about the same as pregnancy when the mother is 40. Only if it's repeated it can be more problematic.

*Pakistan enters the chat* Im pretty sure Pakistan is one of the countries today that still has a super high rate of marriage to first cousins. Edit: google suggests around 60% of Pakistani marriages are between first cousins

Yeah, in Canada we even allow avunculate marriages. That's between an aunt/uncle and nephew/niece. The law is literally that you can't marry direct ancestors, descendants or siblings, probably including step- and adopted relations (and probably half siblings too). Everyone else, no restrictions as long as they're an adult.

I think the other part too is what happens if it’s purely accidental (envisioning your grandad or grandmother sleeping with a neighbour and having an affair). Or a small town where genetic inbreeding is practically guaranteed You had no idea but a generation goes by and here we are Think culturally disowned is probably more appropriate

Given the increase in childless couples, is it necessarily bad? The issues are around recessive genes and procreation, but if you don’t procreate…

lol in the UK it is so common in certain populations they are having to actually do something about it because kids are being born with problems.

We have varying laws in the US, and the distribution was not what I expected. Texas, Kentucky, and West Virginia criminalize it, while California, New York, and 17 others allow it with no restrictions. The rest are somewhere in between. Like, "We're not going to throw you in jail, but we won't recognize your marriage." I conjecture that states without bans fall into two categories: in one we have states where it just isn't a problem, and in the other we have Alabama, where it's too late to do anything about the consequences. My own state of Missouri bans it, and rightly so. No one wants to be Alabama.

I’m sick rn w the worst cough ever, I nearly lost half a lung laughing at this. Now I gotta call in sick tomorrow too

I heard this in Dominic Toretto

I got in trouble at work for telling that joke. First time in 20 years I've been called into HR.

I got married in NJ and definitely had to sign a waiver swearing my wife wasn't a blood relative. We didn't have to go so far as a blood test but hard to believe "zero restrictions"

When you say “allow it with no restrictions” what you really mean is that they haven’t written laws against it. In a lot of cases laws are not written because it isn’t a problem that happens frequently enough to warrant laws.

Ain’t not indeed!

Whatever happened to that mfer? It's like he disappeared

Cousin f******.

Cousin stuff

I also wonder if judges even check for this? If you have a different last name how would they know unless they dig through birth certificates?

🎶 Like Cletuuuus the slack jawed yokel 🎶

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*family* is right

Every time I read one of these headlines that movie scene is the first thing that pops into my head and starts playing.

A prefectly cromulent post.

Is that the shelbyville foundation story

Well, looking at the actual bill, it’s about a ton of things.  > GENERAL BILL by Health & Human Services Committee ; Gerwig > Department of Health; Revising definitions; revising eligibility requirements for dentists and dental hygienists participating in the Dental Student Loan Repayment Program; revising requirements for department approval of qualified physicians and medical directors of medical marijuana treatment centers; creating the Neurofibromatosis Disease Grant Program within the Department of Health; prohibiting marriage between certain related individuals; revising requirements for the micro-credential component of specialized training provided by the University of Florida Center for Autism and Neurodevelopment, etc. I don’t know why it didn’t pass, but it’s silly to refer to it as a bill about cousin marriage when that’s just one minor thing among many they were voting for.