The children were home when this happened. Two teenagers inside the house while their father shot their mother multiple times before killing himself. They are going to carry that trauma for the rest of their lives.
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thewhitebuttboy3 days ago
+5659
Happened to a buddy of mine. He was able to kick a hole in the bathroom door before his dad said “I’m sorry buddy, I love you. Then shot his mom in the head then himself. He was never the same.
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Fweenci3 days ago
+3353
I'm the one who stopped my father from choking my mother to death. My brothers stood there in a huddle shivering. I screamed at him and then he just ... dropped her like a ragdoll and went after me. I was able to lock myself in my bedroom and my mom got out of the house and called the cops. So glad he didn't have a gun.
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Express-Citron-63873 days ago
+1921
One of m y co-workers told me that his father who beat his mother, that one day at the age of 12, he sat on the porch with a hunting rifle and when his father got home, he shot by his father's feet and told him he would kill him if he came back. I don't advocate that, but it worked for their family.
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CharleyNobody2 days ago
+954
Heard a woman tell this story about her Italian immigrant mother. Shortly after marriage her husband got mad at her for something and he took off his belt and beat his wife. That night he went to bed, woke up when he heard his name called. His wife was standing over the bed with a huge spaghetti pot filled with boiling water. She said, “You ever touch me again, you never sleep easy in this bed.”
He never touched her again
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Penguin_shit152 days ago
+541
Well.. I guess its time for me to tell my story. I had a woman who worked for me probably 25 years ago or so. She seemed like a very very nice lady, but she had spent time in prison. One day she told me why.
Her husband was a drunk, and he would come home and beat on her. One night, he came home, beat on her, then stripped naked and passed out on the couch. She superglued his hands to himself, and then beat him with a baseball bat.. Its sad that she is the one who did time for it.
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Bertsmom182 days ago
+186
I had a co worker whose husband used to abuse her. Beat her. Make her commit robberies and if she didn't then he would beat her child. She murdered him one day. She did several years. I met her after she had been released for a while. She was nice but pretty messed up
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Express-Citron-63872 days ago
+26
That is so sad.
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CoasterThot2 days ago
+8
That’s so smart of her, holy shit. I’m glad she made it out, alive.
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Express-Citron-63872 days ago
+312
Abusers are cowards at heart. If then know you mean it and it is not just a threat...
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kifferella2 days ago
+286
When I was in the military I met this chick whose husband beat her ONE time and then never again because she always told him if he ever hit her, he'd live to regret it... so when the day came where he backhanded her, she clonked him with a cast iron pan, chucked him down the staircase, out of the front door, and then proceeded to whup his ass hard in front of all the neighbours.
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VRichardsen2 days ago
+63
Did they stay together after that?
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kifferella2 days ago
+94
Yeah, actually!
They both grew up in a pretty disadvantaged community and both had seen a lot of domestic violence and had agreed that they didnt want that.
But they didnt discuss or agree on what the root cause of domestic violence really was. For her, male on female domestic violence was caused by, you know, the f****** ridiculous temper tantrums some grown ass men are prone to throwing. But for him, they were caused by the dismissive or disrespectful behaviour of the women involved. So when they first discussed it, she thought he was agreeing not to beat her, he thought she was agreeing to hand over her existence to be managed and curated like a f****** child's.
That fundamental misunderstanding blew up when she cooked dinner and he didnt want what she made and instructed her to make him something else. She pointed out she wasnt a short order cook and if he wanted something else, he knew as well as she did where the peanut butter was. He backhanded her. She fuckin went off.
It was in the aftermath when they were both shocked that the other one was angry about the initial incident where they figured it out. Oddly, he was never particularly upset about the physical part - you attack someone who has better than 100lbs on you, chances are good youre gonna eat some teeth - but he was outraged she had been flippant and dismissive and had refused to follow the direction he had specifically given. That, to him, had been HER betraying their agreement not to introduce dv into their relationship.
Crazy.
Either way, by the time I met them it was over a decade later and they were still together, still in love. Which, good for them, but ive often wondered how much of that would have worked out the way it did if he had been the bigger and stronger party.
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VRichardsen2 days ago
+26
This is oddly heartwarming. Somehow.
> Oddly, he was never particularly upset about the physical part - you attack someone who has better than 100lbs on you, chances are good youre gonna eat some teeth -
Wait, just how big/tall were each one of them?
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kifferella2 days ago
+15
Well, he was about 5'6, and maaaaybe 150lbs, if I'm being generous. She was much bigger. At least 2" on him and over 100lbs. Just an absolute brick shithouse of a woman.
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JasperLamarCrabbb2 days ago
+23
The wife had a hundred pounds on the husband?
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Mushu_Pork2 days ago
+214
Well...
Cast Iron is "buy it for life"...
So as long as she didn't lose it.
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GrimlyUnlit2 days ago
+39
🏅please accept this poor person’s award. Underrated comment and you won the internet today.
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Local-Local-58362 days ago
+71
And there was a news report of a woman throwing boiling sugar water on her husband. I didn’t know that sugar water has an even higher boiling point than straight water plus is sticky and hard to get off of skin. She was charged with murder!
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LadyProto2 days ago
+23
Corina Smith, my spelling might be off
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BadPunners2 days ago
+34
>I didn’t know that sugar water has an even higher boiling point
In fact the boiling temperature is proportional to the percentage of water in it. That's how candy making thermometers work, you boil it until it gets hot enough to act hot you want in the candy (syrup/thread, soft ball, hard crack, then caramel as the sugar starts to burn from lack of water vaporization (those names referring to what happens if you want a blob of it and cool it quickly, like dropping into water, for before thermometers were trustworthy))
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_Wyrm_2 days ago
+163
I love that it's not just a huge pot, but a huge ***spaghetti*** pot... Because they're Italian, of course.
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CaptMurphy2 days ago
+65
It would be rude to use a standard pot.
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ForgettableUsername2 days ago
+20
Well, she’s not going to use a ramen pot.
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holdenfords2 days ago
+14
thought this was gonna be a goodfellas reference from when karen stands over henry with the gun pointed at him
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dersnappychicken2 days ago
+21
7 kids, 50th anniversary next month.
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viktor722 days ago
+322
I just watched an episode of 48 Hours about a Minnesota mom and son. The son shot and killed the dad who was abusive to him and his mother and they dumped him in a forest in Wisconsin. After many years, someone found the remains and the case was re-opened. Every neighbor of the family defended the son and said the dad was a spiteful a******. Every Youtube comment was defending the kid. And even the judge gave him what was essentially the minimum sentence. One of the neighbors went as far as to say on TV that when the kid got out to come see him because he wants to help him get a new start in life.
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elbenji2 days ago
+43
Reminds me of the dad who shot his sons rapist on TV
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AngledLuffa2 days ago
+59
sounds like jury nullification should have been a thing
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mmm_unprocessed_fish2 days ago
+17
I watched that one. Unlike most true crime stories, that was one victim that didn’t “light up a room”, as they always say. The neighbors were all like, “Yeah, he was a total a******, and the mom and son really were living their best lives once he was gone.” 😆
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the_other_50_percent2 days ago
+168
A story that went in a bit of a different direction - a friend got between his mother's latest abusive boyfriend as she was getting beaten badly when they were both drunk. The police came, and his mother was angry at *him* and told him never to do that again. Chose her abusive boyfriend over her son and her own life.
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FlyBulky1062 days ago
+166
That unfortunately is disturbingly common.
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ALasagnaForOne2 days ago
+51
Yep, this happened to my husband when he got between a woman and her partner who was physically abusing her in public. He came up and knocked the guy down, and she started screaming at my husband, when the cops arrived she tried to get in the police cruiser with her abuser when they were taking him away. Super depressing.
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rmscomm2 days ago
+11
Sadly, domestic disputes are among the most dangerous calls for this reason and the overall emotional intensity. The only other scenario that's considered less dangerous is the ambush attack.
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AnotherpostCard2 days ago
+7
Surely you mean more dangerous?
Less dangerous puts it near the bottom of the totem pole, right? Am I crazy?
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Fun-Ad-50792 days ago
+40
That is why here in Canada, the abused party has NO choice about "pressing charges" the Crown Attorney does that.
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Mirria_2 days ago
+6
Still difficult if the victim is a hostile witness.
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Moos_Mumsy2 days ago
+47
Not surprised by this at all. Women are raised to think that if they don't have a partner, they are nothing. So they will choose and abusive partner rather than be single.
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winterbird2 days ago
+86
A lot of it has to do with finances. My best friend is in an abusive marriage because she can't pay rent on her own. I myself left my abuser, but struggle to pay bills every month. I sell plasma to pay my power bill, but they lower the payout as you keep selling. It's hard to leave a relationship when it's hard for a single person to pay rent.
I'm actually the cautionary tale in my friend's life. She says stuff like "I can't leave. Look at you. Look at how you live. I'm only afraid sometimes, but you're almost homeless every month." And I hate to say it, but she's right. She's scared of one man sometimes, but every month I risk having to be afraid of every man on the street. This is why a lot of people don't leave an abusive situation and end up rolling that dice.
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Alicegradstudent19982 days ago
+35
I think you’re getting at something real, but it’s bigger than just “women choose bad partners.” The whole setup pushes women toward relationships as a source of validation, while the reality of those relationships, especially with kids, often doesn’t value them back.
I’m a new mom and I do enjoy my baby, but I’m also in a position a lot of American women aren’t. I have real extended family support, not just a partner. There are multiple adults around who actually want to help, people who can hold the baby, even a night owl who works during the day and helps at night so I can get real sleep, give me a break, share the load. That “village” fundamentally changes the experience. If I were doing this in the typical isolated nuclear setup with just me and a partner, especially postpartum, I honestly think I’d go a little insane. It’s just too much for one or two people to carry nonstop. Americans don’t seem to realize isolated nuclear families are an unnatural load to carry especially with babies.
And that ties into your point. Women are still socialized to derive validation from having a partner, but once they’re in that role, their labor is deeply undervalued. Pregnancy, postpartum recovery, childcare, emotional labor… it’s a massive load, with very little structural support or cultural respect. You see it in how some men will say “babies are easy” but complain that their postpartum wife is “annoying,” completely missing what she just went through physically and hormonally, or how normalized sleep deprivation is in these isolated setups.
There’s also a reason women initiate most divorces. On average, marriage tends to make men healthier and more stable—they gain emotional support, caregiving, and structure—while women often take on more stress, more unpaid labor, and less support in return. When that imbalance becomes clear over time, a lot of women opt out.
And zooming out, this is why the “low birth rate” panic misses the point. Pregnancy and motherhood are a lot of labor for very little respect, status, or structural support in the U.S.—weak maternity leave, no village, postpartum treated as something to instantly bounce back from rather than the recovery period it is that necessitates village support, expensive healthcare, and a culture that treats it as a private choice you’re on your own for. If pregnant women and moms were treated more like Olympic gold medalists you’d probably see very different outcomes.
So it’s not just that some women are choosing poorly, it’s that they’re operating within a system that encourages them to center relationships, while undervaluing their labor within them. In the worst cases, some men don’t deeply value their partner as a person at all, but treat her more like a source of sex, labor, and stability. That disconnect is a big part of why these patterns keep showing up.
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Fweenci2 days ago
+205
Oh my God. And we're the "best case scenarios "
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Express-Citron-63872 days ago
+128
Yes. He was also protecting his much younger brother and sister. This is in a small town in Nova Scotia.
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TheArmoredKitten2 days ago
+78
I specifically and vocally advocate for that. Consequences are the only lesson that ever works, ever.
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420thefunnynumber2 days ago
+77
100% an abuser will never learn and will continue to escalate until someone starts breaking the point over their head. Repeatedly.
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Arkanist2 days ago
+13
I went to school with a dude who's dad beat his mom regularly. Well, about freshmen year he hit a growth spurt and all the sudden was 6 feet tall and 200lbs. He had one of those "didn't know my own strength" moments and nearly killed the guy.
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sowhat42 days ago
+9
Why would you no 'advocate' for that? It sounds like Dad was such a troglodyte that he wouldn't have understood any other threat delivered any other way. Nobody got hurt, nobody went to jail, so that's a win.
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Express-Citron-63872 days ago
+17
Yes, a win. It worked because he told me he meant it, wasn't a threat, and his father got that. One because if my co-worker didn't mean it, his father could have taken that rifle as he was a boy and killed him, his mother and his siblings out of anger and out of being outed as a bully. When you confront a bully, you better be prepared because that really sets them off.
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Great_Detective_63872 days ago
+8
Yup, you better have ten toes on the ground when you confront.
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PKPRoberts3 days ago
+153
Jesus man, I’m sorry that happened to you. I hope you’ve been able to get support and that things are better now.
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Fweenci2 days ago
+296
Thanks. It's been a while. Pretty much buried it. But I'll never forget how he called me out of my room so I could see him handcuffed. He said, "Are you happy now?" as if I was supposed to be ashamed, or responsible in some way. I was just like 👍. Yes, m***********, I'm happy you didn't murder my mother.
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VodkaHaze2 days ago
+99
It's insane how abusers never think about they might be in the wrong. Sometimes even decades later, they'll believe their own bullshit justification for *attempted murder* as if it made any sense
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ChocoMcBunny2 days ago
+15
I’m so sorry that you had to experience that. I hope your family are all doing okay.
The pain and fear from domestic violence affects people their whole lives.
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Bananas_are_theworst2 days ago
+17
Wow this is so traumatic, I’m sorry you had to live through this. Horrible. I hope you’re doing okay.
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pushingbrown2 days ago
+27
I'm the coward who, on two separate nights within a week of each other, stood over my sleeping father while holding a hammer and fantasized about swinging the claw side down on his skull. It was like every time I told my arm to lift it I just pushed more tears out instead. Probably a month later I got a ten-stitch-worthy slice across my arm for the egregious sin known as "sleepwalking".
Sometimes I like to think if I had a mother or siblings with me in the crosshairs I'd have taken that swing. Probably just wishful thinking from a 12 year old.
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Express-Citron-63872 days ago
+10
You were only 12 and trapped.
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xj3712 days ago
+10
You weren't a coward, you were a normal, 12 year old kid. Just look at any child you see today and try to imagine them in your same position. Would you call them a coward because they weren't able to murder their parent? Or would you understand that that is way too big an expectation to put upon them? Would you say "God, they're just a kid who's alone and scared, no one has their back"? Try to be kind to your 12 year old self. You had enough bs to deal with from your father.
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Fweenci2 days ago
+10
You weren't a coward. It was part conscience and part survival instinct that held you back. I hope you're in a better place now.
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sowhat42 days ago
+11
Did your dad spend any time in jail? Was he allowed home again? Did you still have to be around him after this 'incident'?
(What a heavy load for a child to carry - regardless of the age of the 'child'. Sorry, Fweenci.)
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Job_Moist3 days ago
+240
Same happened to my mom’s best friend. The friend and his two brothers were home during the shooting and it permanently shattered them in different ways. It was almost worse that the kids “at least” (in the words of some acquaintances) got a lot of money as inheritance with no strings attached cuz they pretty much immediately blew it all on terrible coping methods that had serious health consequences. F****** nightmare for the whole family and the whole community.
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eflat1233 days ago
+80
It's sad how many people can come in with related stories. What's wrong with us?
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S1R2C32 days ago
+49
A Person can be fine. People suck. Happy cake day.
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Kushye2 days ago
+25
I love mankind; it’s people I can’t stand.
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AncientSith2 days ago
+10
Humanity is just fucked and always has been. Now that we have unlimited information about daily life, it's crazy just how insane we are.
10
otomeMC3332 days ago
+9
Dark triad personality disorders + patriarchal society
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yellekc3 days ago
+947
>He was never the same
Honestly, I would be worried about myself if I was the same after something like that. Sorry for your friend. That is so terrible.
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dpforest3 days ago
+199
Familial suicides can definitely be “contagious”. I would be worried too.
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iownakeytar3 days ago
+78
Lost my dad and brother to suicide, 20 years apart. Both were traumatizing.
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hairyhood_3 days ago
+129
indeed.
RIP my buddy Adam, his mom, and his grandmother.
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give_me_the_formu0li3 days ago
+24
Damn… that’s rough
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redgreenbrownblue3 days ago
+335
Happened in my small town. Triple murder suicide done by a jealous, abusive ex husband. The 6 year old daughter arrived home after being away for the weekend with her much older sister. She found all three in the basement. This occurred 30 years ago. That poor girl has also since passed away a few years ago due to a rare cancer.
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Morat202 days ago
+83
Happened just down the street from me when I was a kid. Wife was divorcing him over infidelity.
He came home from work around noon, shot her and then himself when his kids were at school. The kids -- like 8 and 12 -- were lucky in that a neighbor had called in the shots, so they were at least met with police and social workers instead of walking in and seeing corpses.
He didn't consider the kids at all. It wasn't planned to avoid them, he'd just got to work, decided he'd rather be dead than divorced, and decided to kill himself -- and take her with him, because he didn't want her alive if she wasn't with him.
Like *clearly* laid out that reasoning in his note. Kids weren't mentioned. Him deciding he didn't want to be alive, and him deciding he didn't want her to be alive and possibly be with someone else yes. Kids, not even a thought.
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lemme_just_say2 days ago
+52
I can’t imagine that PTSD every time you walk in a room in your house let alone the basement.
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[deleted]3 days ago
+30
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kvlt_ov_personality3 days ago
+12
Wow....the killer shot himself under the chin twice and once in the side of the head. No sympathy for him, but that was insane to read. Those poor children. :(
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digitalime3 days ago
+250
These fuckers version of love always means hurting innocent people.
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StacyChadBecky3 days ago
+49
Narcissism is a hell of a drug.
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Pimply_Poo3 days ago
+41
Holy shit, you'd think seeing the kid there would make him come to his senses.
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Strong_Letterhead6383 days ago
+169
What a despicable human. You don’t traumatize people you love and you certainly don’t kill them either.
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Essex6262 days ago
+88
I love my wife so much I'd rather her be happy with someone else than unhappy with me. I'd rather my kids be happy and never talk to me again than keep a bitter relationship with me out of obligation. I have a great relationship with my wife and my kids, and I'm not particularly worried that will change, but if it does their happiness is my priority, and if they're happy in life I will be satisfied with that.
I do not understand the mindset of men who harm those they claim to love.
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kaisadilla_2 days ago
+24
Even if I hated my SO with all my heart, and even if I was willing to ruin my entire life by being a murderer, I would not murder the mother of my son. I don't think abstaining from f****** murder is an impossible thing to achieve.
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10000Didgeridoos3 days ago
+165
"I love you son. So I'm gonna kill the woman you love most."
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Cynical_Satire3 days ago
+24
wtf. He probably hears his dad saying that all the f****** time too. How horrible. f***.
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blahmeistah3 days ago
+13
F****** hell that’s rough.
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redbeard89893 days ago
+48
He lied. If he loved his son, he wouldn’t have done that. If you are struggling with others or yourself, please get help. If you can’t do it for yourself, do it for your family.
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Formergr3 days ago
+7
That's so awful, what a thing to have to witness.
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KimJongFunk3 days ago
+501
Those poor kids. The trauma this is going to cause will never go away :(
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YaMomsCooch3 days ago
+533
F*** Justin Fairfax for forever mentally and emotionally brutalizing his children for the remainder of their lives.
Evil coward piece of shit. His wife was a saint that got her life violently ripped from her.
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YaMomsCooch3 days ago
+410
F*** him, he’s an evil piece of shit that had no right to decide someone else’s fate but his own.
I’m glad he’s rotting and can’t hurt another soul ever again.
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BigFatModeraterFupa3 days ago
+171
he was also a sexual abuser
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10000Didgeridoos3 days ago
+131
And I definitely 100% believe those accusations now.
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awry_lynx3 days ago
+48
I know this is just speculation but I wonder if he found out she believed them too/there was new evidence that would have changed her mind.
She supported him through the accusations, maybe something tipped her over and she realized he really had been the predator that she'd been telling herself he wasn't. But when something like that happens it's really hard to adjust your mental view of someone, she may even have thought she was safe to confront him, even if she logically realized "he's a predator, he's not the person I thought", it is hard to think "this man could kill me"....... just.... f***, that's awful.
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Bennpg2 days ago
+34
I think the news was saying they were in the middle of a divorce. Still living in the same house but separated.
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Persimmon-Mission2 days ago
+22
That sucks. Living with someone throughout the process of divorce seems like a bomb waiting to explode. I know sometimes people don’t have the means to leave the house, and I believe divorce law actually encourages you not to leave the house, but it seems like leaving would be the best thing to do,
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MagsAndTelly3 days ago
+26
There was a story I read on here years ago about a kid and her friend playing dolls in her room. One parent comes to tell her remember I love you and then they hear pops but don’t know what they are and don’t go look. Murder suicides with two small kids in the house.
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620five3 days ago
+66
Selfish prick.
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meowmeow_now3 days ago
+42
how can you hate your spouse more than you love your kids?
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woodst0ck153 days ago
+61
That’s horrible. Fuckin coward. Only silver lining I see is that at least it wasn’t an entire family murder suicide but those poor children will be forever changed.
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seriousbusinesslady2 days ago
+15
reminds me of the woman who killed her daughters and then herself in the home or out in the driveway, all in front of her husband while he was trying to stop her (and maybe in front of police too? it happened maybe 10 years ago, I can picture the mom, she was a blonde lady from the south but other details are escaping me) while they were going through a contentious divorce, theoretically to punish him and "win," i guess. basically the final boss of "cutting off your nose to spite your face."
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Express-Citron-63873 days ago
+2080
The link wouldn't load for me but that could be my ad blocker. Here is one that works:
>their older son called 911 just after midnight...Davis described the incident as the result of a "domestic dispute surrounding what seems to be a complicated or messy divorce."
>[https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/former-virginia-lt-gov-justin-fairfax-kills-wife-self-divorce-police-rcna332123](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/former-virginia-lt-gov-justin-fairfax-kills-wife-self-divorce-police-rcna332123)
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TheGoverness19983 days ago
+1341
How f****** awful for their children, having to witness the result of such horror.
Terribly fucked up situation. What an incredible cruelty those kids have been subjected to, one they're definitely never gonna forget.
Fairfax was a disgusting sack of shit. This guy already had a heap of sexual assault allegations against him, and then now years later out of office, with his reputation beyond ruined, he goes and murders his own wife.
They were apparently separated but living in the same home, so I bet he did the whole "you can't leave me" bullshit.
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Reluctantziti3 days ago
+760
He called the cops on her for domestic violence in January. She had set up cameras around their house, for reasons that seem obvious now, and when the cops showed up they reviewed the recordings and verified that the alleged assault never occurred. So it seems he tried to get rid of her once already and when that failed he did this. F****** appalling.
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FrontFew12493 days ago
+587
The most dangerous time in an abusive relationship is when the victim decides to leave. That poor woman.
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_BKom_3 days ago
+169
Yuuuup. I did my escape with the kids in the morning after she went to work. Ran to my folks, locked the door, had my lawyers advising me every step of the way.
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EntertheOcean2 days ago
+66
I hope you're safe now.
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_BKom_2 days ago
+85
Appreciate that. Been ten years, met and married a lovely woman in that time. Have kids 50:50, defended my rights. Still am harassed monthly at minimum. Am currently in talks about how to get parallel parenting instead of coparenting because it’s been over 15 years of this abuse, I’m tied boss.
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EntertheOcean2 days ago
+28
I'm so sorry about what you're going through. Wishing the best - truly!
I work with domestic violence victims and the effects are lifelong, even for those lucky to escape.
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CPOx3 days ago
+65
And those same cameras may have caught the shooting 😩
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barto52 days ago
+22
The article says they’re reviewing the footage.
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CompetitiveRub97802 days ago
+71
For the US: 91-95% of murder suicides are by men.
95% of those are males killing a female partner.
~2,000 male suicides per year are after they murder their partner.
Up to 50% of DV incidents occur in front of a child.
I shouldn’t be surprised that if someone is willing to kill someone they claim to love, they wouldn’t think twice about if their child was home to witness it.
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DishGroundbreaking872 days ago
+47
People Say, “why don’t you just leave?” This is why.
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BigE4293 days ago
+102
His sexual assault allegations helped Ralph Northam survive his own blackface scandal.
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obeytheturtles2 days ago
+6
Survive is a bit misleading here, considering Dems then went on to lost the next election to a piece of boiled chicken in a sweater vest.
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maxxspeed572 days ago
+17
She was a successful dentist in Fairfax County. He needed her a lot more than she needed him.
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markcarney4president3 days ago
+1537
The two kids were at home. Absolutely horrible.
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fit-fil-a3 days ago
+90
Do we know how old they are? Absolutely horrible.
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rayword453 days ago
+181
New outlets say both teenage, and some sources say HS classes of 2028 and 2029. Other sources also saying that one of the sons was the one who called 911 after the murder.
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GeorgeLichen3 days ago
+2597
He was nearly governor himself after Northam's blackface scandal. He also had multiple sexual assault allegations against him. May his wife rest in peace.
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6r1n3i193 days ago
+517
As a VA resident this is crazy to see! I wish nothing but the best for his kids and hope they can eventually find a way to heal from the trauma. May his wife rest in peace.
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rvasshole3 days ago
+126
Former RVAer here. Stoney was so bad at his job and made so many horrible deals for the city.
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SekhWork3 days ago
+48
Wasn't he the one that totally screwed up ya'lls domestic water system or something equally vital?
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SekhWork3 days ago
+29
Feels like a tale as old as time here... I'm in NOVA and we're continually having to fight against bad deals made by the city without consulting anyone... eg: Data Centers and Casinos.
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SekhWork3 days ago
+19
The number of times people have to tell billionaires no and then they come back with MORE money trying to force people to do what they want is you know.... extremely indicative of their understanding of consent.
Here we had a similar thing with both Casinos and Stadiums. They even managed to get the Stadium semi-approved, had a site picked out that was right next to our super nice little historic cottage town so that it would screw up that entire areas aesthetic, AND put it in a place that would require the city to build a whole new bridge to alleviate the MASSIVE traffic issues that it would cause, **AND** we would have to pay for all of it for the privilege of moving a team there.
We managed to get the deal rescinded and cancelled much to the billionaires tantrums, but it was a mess.
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rvasshole3 days ago
+23
The Diamond District, Stone Brewery, The Commanders training camp facility. All were supposed to be great for the city economically with big promises and guarantees that never came through
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sleevieb3 days ago
+9
hes more failed navy hill and two votes on c*****. Stone and Commanders were state level deals and Diamond District I think was after him and went through.
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OwslyOwl3 days ago
+14
Justin Fairfax was also pressured to step down for the allegations against him and the attorney general was pressured to step down for his own blackface scandal. The democrats were encouraging all leadership to step down at the same time, which would have given the governorship to the Republicans.
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Specter_RMMC2 days ago
+6
And then they got it anyway with Youngkin...
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ExpiredExasperation3 days ago
+731
One of the kids made the 911 call. You can only hope it's because they heard the incident rather than saw it, and even then they're going to be traumatized.
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secret_identity_too3 days ago
+375
Can confirm that hearing it is traumatizing - it's obviously nowhere near the same thing, but my neighbor took his life in his backyard late last year and I heard it (but didn't realize until the cops and ambulances showed up without sirens that it was a gunshot that I heard) and man, that messed with my mind for quite some time, that I heard the last moment of this nice man's life.
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ExpiredExasperation3 days ago
+97
I'm sorry for you, and him.
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dstlady2 days ago
+36
TMZ posted the dispatch call. The son saw the mom laying on the floor bleeding. Heartbreaking
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hogsucker3 days ago
+545
If you're going to commit murder-suicide, do the suicide part first.
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Aushos-743 days ago
+117
Selfish b****** to do that to his kids. Lifelong trauma. At least he didn’t try to kill them too.
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per_mare_per_terras3 days ago
+208
Poor kids. I can't even imagine what they feel about losing their parents and in this manner.
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ALLoftheFancyPants2 days ago
+15
According to the article there were ongoing allegations of domestic violence. Those poor kids were exposed to a lot that they shouldn’t have been.
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Mercury82jg3 days ago
+262
He should be remembered as a rapist and murder, that's all.
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ErnestPWashington2 days ago
+42
He'll be completely forgotten about in a couple of news cycles.
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songstofilltheair2 days ago
+24
Yup. Wish there was actually a hell so this dude can burn
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SlinkyMalinky203 days ago
+125
Omg this is so sad for the Dr. and her children. Heartbreaking.
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bassistheplace2463 days ago
+343
The fact he would even consider doing that in the presence of his two kids speaks to the “person” he was. May he rust in piss.
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songstofilltheair2 days ago
+54
F****** eh. Why people treat murderers with respect is beyond me. Rest in shit
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HEYYYYYYYY_SATAN3 days ago
+153
After his SA stuff came out, he hit a tremendous downward spiral.
RIP to his wife and my heart breaks for her children
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PunnyPrinter2 days ago
+7
I wonder if he was disgruntled about his political career being derailed and took it out on his wife.
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full_bodied_muppet3 days ago
+97
Heartbreaking, those poor kids. And his wife was a well-established dentist with her own practice in the area.
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ADavidJohnson2 days ago
+88
[Dr. Cerina W. Fairfax, DDS](https://www.drfairfax.com/meet-dr-cerina-w-fairfax/)
> Dr. Fairfax earned her Bachelor of Science degree from Duke University in 1999. She then went on to obtain her Doctor of Dental Surgery degree, graduating magna cum laude from VCU’s Medical College of Virginia School of Dentistry in 2005, and was inducted as a member of Omicron Kappa Upsilon, a dental honor society. She went on to complete a one-year residency program in Advanced Education in General Dentistry, also at MCV. Dr. Fairfax enjoys all fields of dentistry. She has completed hundreds of hours of continuing education focusing on conservative, comprehensive dentistry.
>
> Dr. Fairfax considers it an honor and a privilege to serve the community of Fairfax, Virginia. She is committed to serving not only her patients but others as well through participation in community outreach programs, volunteer and sponsorship opportunities, vocational training programs, and contributions to local charities and nonprofits intended to aid individuals and/or organizations helping those in need.
>
> Dr. Fairfax is a member of the American Dental Association, the Virginia Dental Association, the Northern Virginia Dental Society, and the Omicron Kappa Upsilon Dental Society. Dr. Fairfax also recently received an Alumni Association Award from VCU as an Outstanding Graduate of the Last Decade. In her spare time, Dr. Fairfax loves to read, run trails with her energetic Vizslas, practice Bikram yoga, travel, and spend time with her wonderful family.
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greensecondsofpanic2 days ago
+11
This breaks my heart. She sounds like she'll be very missed by many ppl in the community
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RadicalAsseptance2 days ago
+5
Way too good for that piece of shit
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AbelardsChainsword3 days ago
+30
This kind of stuff is just terrible. The kids are going to suffer. When I was a teenager there was a dispute between a husband and wife a couple doors down from our house. The husband grabbed his gun and shot the wife. She was holding their infant child. The bullet killed them both. The guy then turned the gun on himself. They had a daughter I think like 5 or 6 who locked herself in the bathroom. On of our neighbors found her. The family was from another country and nobody knew of any other family contacts. I think they eventually found a relative, but I can’t imagine how that girl lived her life after. She must be around twenty now. I hope she is doing ok
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itsmechickadee3 days ago
+568
Sad that he felt he had to take her with him. Their poor children. I can't even imagine.
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PantsDontHaveAnswers3 days ago
+1287
It's probably less that he was suicidal and more that he was homicidal and wanted to kill his wife but suffer none of the shame or consequences or have to look his children in the eye after killing their mother. The absolute worst kind of person.
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ladybug113143 days ago
+445
This, the homicide is the point, the suicide is to avoid punishment for it.
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kanrad2 days ago
+70
You don't shoot someone six times unless you are in full on rage. Once he realized what he did he offed himself.
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ladybug113142 days ago
+28
It's honestly a miracle he didn't kill their kids as well. How absolutely awful for them.
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Shibbystix3 days ago
+295
This is 100% what it was. Because its a tale as old as time.
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Yggdrasil-3 days ago
+141
r/whenwomenrefuse
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Shibbystix3 days ago
+47
Yeah, that was def on my mind. It reads like she decided to leave, and he couldnt have that
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OrangeJr363 days ago
+118
Well, he was an abuser, they rarely want to go alone when they have to face the consequences of their actions.
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yesyoucantouchthat3 days ago
+51
I can’t imagine hating someone so much that you’re willing to give up your life just to take theirs
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Deranged_Kitsune3 days ago
+91
It was the slight of her having the audacity to dare try leaving him. He sounds like one of those people that lose their mind over being “disrespected”.
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ginny113 days ago
+59
It's not about hate. It's about the obsessive need for control.
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A-dab3 days ago
+12
There's so many hateful, messed-up people in this world. It's terrible
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tulaero233 days ago
+37
Knowing people like this, probably not the children but the public.
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Clownsinmypantz3 days ago
+18
Considering the top comment mentions divorce, yep. This wasnt mental illness, this was "my possession is leaving me" bullshit.
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jyeatbvg3 days ago
+121
What a coward
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Xanthus1793 days ago
+417
A weak piece of shit.
An unfortunate reminder to get as far away as possible once divorce proceedings have begun.
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Guyote_2 days ago
+47
Another miserable piece of shit man killing his spouse. F****** shocker.
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Taogevlas2 days ago
+22
> Their teenage children were at the house at the time of the shootings, Fairfax County Police Chief Kevin Davis told reporters at a news conference Thursday morning.
> “Former Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax shot and killed his wife inside of their home and then shot and killed himself,” Davis said, adding that their older son called 911 just after midnight.
This is just so fucked up... absolutely psychotic stuff... only reinforces my belief that *many* (not all) that rise to positions of high power via politics or wealth are sociopathic narcissists and extraordinarily dangerous, and we've created a distillery to ensure that only the most conniving ones makes it through the system these days.
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jpiro3 days ago
+117
Did this with two kids there in the home. Horrible.
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Ghostrider5562 days ago
+19
If you ever break up with someone leave immediately. Even if you have kids you gotta take em and go once you realize the person is abusive. Letting them stay in the house with me is honestly the biggest mistake I ever made
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+44
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TheWolfbytez3 days ago
+29
Because it's not actually about doing what's right for others, it's about how to leverage the office for your personal gain. When the people running for office sell their souls to corporate interests to line their pockets, there's only one way it will go
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Wizard_with_a_Pipe3 days ago
+12
The type of people who seek power are not the same people as those that should have it. That's why in the early years of the US people were nominated, and it was considered vulgar to campaign on your own behalf.
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victoriaisme22 days ago
+54
3 women are murdered by their husbands, boyfriends, or exes every day. Just in the US.
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sanverstv3 days ago
+265
Violence against women is only a concern for the powers that be in DC when it involves someone here illegally. Meanwhile 3 women die every day in America at the hands of a significant other. It’s an epidemic. This is just one more horrific example. Maybe it’s time to focus on this issue instead of sensational talking points. I mourn for these children too…beyond horrific. https://sanctuaryforfamilies.org/femicide-epidemic/
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MacDhubstep3 days ago
+166
I commented on another person’s comment but want to leave it here for visibility too.
The group Violence Free Minnesota analyzed 302 murder-suicides in the state from 1989 to present. 301 of these murder suicides involved a male partner killing someone else (partner, child, or intervenor) and 1 of these cases involved a female partner killing someone.
We have a gender-based violence issue in this country and it won’t change until we demand it.
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HomeNowWTF2 days ago
+30
Violent crime in general is much more common among males than females.
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wheres_the_stapler2 days ago
+31
Homicide is the leading pregnancy-related cause of death for women in the United States. Pregnant women are more likely to be murdered than they are to die of pregnancy-related medical complications in a country with the highest maternal mortality rate among developed nations.
About two thirds of those homicides involve guns.
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d3k3d3 days ago
+14
They have kids and those kids were home. Shit.
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princesspomway2 days ago
+28
I was 16 when I blocked my dad from trying to beat my mother to death. She managed to run off and file divorce a few days later. My two older brothers were downstairs watching tv pretending nothing was happening. To this day I haven't forgiven or gotten over what happened. I can't imagine what would have happened if I hadn't intervened.
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ChrisCinema3 days ago
+10
This is a tragedy for his children and their immediate families.
I never thought highly of Justin Fairfax, to be fair. He was accused of sexual assault in 2019 while he was Virginia's lieutenant governor under Ralph Northam. Somehow, he endured the pressure to not resign and finished his term. He was arrogant enough to run for the governorship, but he lost in the Democratic primaries in 2021.
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CurrentlyNobody2 days ago
+26
The most dangerous time for a woman in a domestically violent home is when she is leaving. This is why the criticisms being lobbied at abused women like Why don’t you just leave, Are you dumb? Are so very missing the point. Staying is a survival technique.
It’s all very screwed up and horrendous. Abusers also hold the whole If I can’t have you, nobody can view toward their victims. They are the most insecure beings walking the planet which is what makes them so very dangerous.
The article seems to imply that he was making allegations against her for assaulting him. Yet they were later disproved? It wouldn’t surprise me a bit though if when all is said and done they discover the wife had actually been suffering physical violence for years from the husband. Sadly, there are Lots of similar endings.
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Murky_Conflict37372 days ago
+9
Victims also stay because they know courts will default to 50/50 custody and there’s the stress of not being able to protect kids during visitation.
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Gaugzilla3 days ago
+64
Nothing more dangerous than an ex with a gun.
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CalmBeneathCastles2 days ago
+9
People like this never stop to realize it proves the other person's judgement in wanting to get away from them. Same old story, over and over.
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littlelupie3 days ago
+35
An incredibly selfish decision destroyed 4 lives in a few minutes.
I'm an atheist but people like him make me wish there was a hell for him to rot in.
I hope those kids have a strong family and friends network - they're going to need it. My best to them.
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DeadbeatJohnson2 days ago
+7
OMG ...the kids were home. Unreal.
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Johnnadawearsglasses3 days ago
+42
Man, I could never live with someone I was separated from. People are too crazy.
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Saltyowl21133 days ago
+69
Sometimes you have no choice. If one person leaves during the divorce process, they can consider it abandoning the home. If kids are involved and there is no custody plan in place yet, you can’t just take your kids. If you were a stay at home mom who doesn’t have savings, where are you moving? Women usually have two choices, stay until the divorce is finalized which can take YEARS or wait until things escalate just enough to be able to go to a woman’s shelter. But that’s the key right. He can punch you in the face, you can leave and call the cops. IF he doesn’t kill you. Or, he does nothing physical, not enough for the cops or courts to care, so you stay with your kids and hope to god he doesn’t snap and murder you.
It’s gross and the system is not setup to protect anybody.
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aemoosh3 days ago
+21
In some states/situations, if one of them moves out the other side will attempt to portray that as abandoning an asset. It's actually divorce 101 to not move out.
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DayleD3 days ago
+31
A lot of people can't afford to move.
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theshinin3 days ago
+28
So sad. How is the gun not yet retrieved if it was the same weapon for a self inflicted gunshot? Did the kid who called 911 remove the weapon from the scene perhaps?
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tyderian3 days ago
+30
It probably just means they haven't removed it from the scene yet.
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toonces-cat3 days ago
+18
Why do these mf-rs always gotta take someone with them?
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lemme_just_say2 days ago
+18
> Police believe the murder happened in the basement of the home and at some point after shooting his wife, Justin Fairfax ran upstairs of the home to the primary bedroom, where he shot himself. He used the same gun, but police have not recovered it yet.
Well that’s weird
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Tranquil_Pure3 days ago
+54
Sad and unfortunate. What a pitiful little boy that he went and did this.
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