>If convicted, the four teens face a prison sentence ranging from five to 99 years.
That’s quite a range
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ElectricL1braryApr 8, 2026
+404
They’re gonna spin a wheel they borrowed from wheel of fortune
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random314Apr 8, 2026
+64
It's now the wheel of misfortune.
64
Moe_jartinApr 8, 2026
+10
*audible gasp*
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Top_Seaweed7189Apr 8, 2026
+1
So bad movies are the punishment?
1
LandrycdApr 8, 2026
+51
Best we can do is this wheel we built from scraps and attached a bunch of those door stopper springs to it.
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WarriorInWoolworthsApr 8, 2026
+6
[“Wheel of Morality, turn turn turn! Tell them the lesson they should (but probably will not) learn!”](https://youtu.be/xv6IWX1_XHQ?si=bOg2hxZTA4rVsUEN)
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[deleted]Apr 8, 2026
+3
[removed]
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BroccobilloApr 8, 2026
+12
I know what it is but I'm not sure I'm allowed to say it.
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peepdabidnessApr 8, 2026
+7
God i love this episode
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FallOutShelterBoyApr 8, 2026
+9
Five seconds, Mr. Marsh.
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WizchineApr 8, 2026
+1
Bust a deal, spin the wheel....
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IllustriousHair1927Apr 8, 2026
+12
they forgot the words “or life”.
First-degree felony punishment range in Texas is definitely very broad. Technically if one were to receive a sentence of 10 years or less, they would actually be eligible for probation.
There are definitely arguments to be made in support of and against this broad range. in reality, the parole laws in Texas for a violent offense like this make it so any sentence in excess of 60 years really only affects how long someone will be on parole after they are released. On an offense like this, first parole eligibility comes at half of the sentence or 30 years, whichever is less. So 61 to 99 has the same parole eligibility as life.
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RimuroooooApr 8, 2026
+24
Bet it’s just depending on what the prosecutor thinks will stick. Texas is big on the prison industrial complex…. In this case it’s not so bad tho
24
PM_tanlinesApr 8, 2026
+5
5-99 is just the range for a first degree felony in Texas
5
riaowoApr 8, 2026
+4
Yup that’s texas for they also have that if you’re convicted of murder your sentence can be from 5-99 years the judge has a ton of leeway in sentencing people
4
HuldukonaApr 8, 2026
+2
Apparently one of them faces charges for organized crimes as well
2
WizchineApr 8, 2026
+880
All for the "offense"of talking to one of these pud's girlfriends.
880
Fabulous_Jeweler2732Apr 8, 2026
+100
Ex girlfriend, if she’s isn’t evil
100
Spire_CitronApr 8, 2026
+42
I would be terrified to break up with him if this is how he reacts to things he doesn't like. Maybe just never contact him again and hope his sentence ends up being on the longer end of things...
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NathundApr 8, 2026
+762
Insecurity is a wild thing
762
whk1992Apr 8, 2026
+186
I wish the president understands.
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zapporianApr 8, 2026
+1
17 year olds with guns and emulating literal cartel behavior is a wild and obviously should be highly illegal (by those kids, and all adults / mentors present / not present), thing
though then again this is TX
anyways, anyone blaming tiktok for this is… wildly off the mark. if I were to guess
1
HerpskateApr 8, 2026
+654
Who tf are raising these children?
654
Jaiden_DarkfeatherApr 8, 2026
+721
No one is, that's the problem.
721
onemorelightgoesoutApr 8, 2026
+243
Often it's people who didn't really get raised themselves
243
Cumdump90001Apr 8, 2026
+127
Sure would be great if we didn’t live in a soul crushing capitalist hellscape where parents have to spend all their time and energy working just to barely make ends meet instead of being able to be there for their kids.
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strega_bella312Apr 8, 2026
+311
It would also be great if people who were not mentally/emotionally equipped to have children just...stopped having them. I know plenty of adults who don't work 2-3 jobs and have spare time to spend w their kids and still f*** them up bc they're just terrible people.
ETA: someone commented and deleted something about "you can't fault stupid people and prevent them from having kids when education is such shit in this country " - smart and stupid has nothing to do w it. I know dumb as f*** people who raised beautiful children w love and respect. I'm talking about the mentally stunted narcissistic lazy assholes who give zero thought to the kinds of people they're sending out into the world w the rest of us.
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gofishxApr 8, 2026
+53
The problem is that relying on "this type of person shouldn't do that thing" isnt ever going to be a viable solution for any human problem. People in generalare always going to f***, they are always going to do drugs, they are always going to try to break the rules, and they are always going to disagree on things. The most effective solutions to these sorts of things need to work with people, not against.
You cant necessarily prevent bad parents, but a community can come together to make sure the local kids have access to good schools, safe spaces for children, youth outreach, recreational sports, etc in order to give those kids a better shot at life, security, and happiness.
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OMGWTFBBQUEApr 8, 2026
+9
Well the really great news is that this took place in Texas, and reproductive rights there are really blossoming!
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Cumdump90001Apr 8, 2026
+78
I agree. Access to contraception and abortion should be a guaranteed right to all people.
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lennyxiiiApr 8, 2026
+35
Even if it was these kind of people typically wouldn’t use it.
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Captain_R64207Apr 8, 2026
+4
So quick question.
Who decides who lowlifes are?
What living standards are we abiding by?
What happens when the cities are at fault for living situations?
Would we sterilize people before they have kids?
What happens to the kids abused outside of their home? Would we automatically sterilize abuse victims since more than zero end up abusing children like they were?
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StupidNSFWApr 8, 2026
+31
Trust me, those parents would still exist even if we had universal healthcare and childcare.
Plenty of adults walking around out there who are basically just overgrown teenagers
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Beginning-Sound-7516Apr 8, 2026
+52
I think there’s a little more at play here than capitalism making their parents have to work long hours… plenty of the killers from my citys parents don’t have jobs at all. It’s possible to raise your child to not kidnap and torture people even while putting in a 60 hour work week
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YomiKuzukiApr 8, 2026
+32
Please, let's not delude ourselves into thinking that's the only reason.
There are people who have kids just to tick a box or to show off. They don't actually give a shit about their kids, just how their kids existence can benefit them.
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GermanPayrollApr 8, 2026
+22
Or maybe they’re just bad people. At some point you just don’t torture people even if your parents have to work two jobs.
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Cumdump90001Apr 8, 2026
+3
Yeah, bad people exist. But a whole lot of society’s problems stem from people’s basic needs not being met. It’s literally just a fact that people do less crime and are generally better to each other when their needs are met and they have opportunities in life. Saying that bad people will still exist doesn’t detract from anything I’ve said.
People still drive drunk so we should just get rid of laws against drunk driving? Or do we do what we can to address the problem and then handle those who still are a problem regardless?
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ProfessionalPack7205Apr 8, 2026
+9
I mean just saying this happens in every society. Happened long before capitalism happened. I'm not syaing it's helping but it's been a problem forever
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KalelisagodApr 8, 2026
+24
Then don’t f****** have them. Making excuses for shitty parenting is about the lamest thing I’ve heard. These kids are predators and should be in prison forever. But their parents should be held accountable also. Personally if a child is found guilty of a violent crime the parent should do 50% of the time with them. No f****** exceptions.
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Cumdump90001Apr 8, 2026
+4
Advocating for a better society isn’t making excuses for shitty parenting. Recognizing the reality of the situation isn’t making excuses. It’s facing reality, calling the problem what it is, and advocating for a solution.
You clearly let emotion rule your mind and don’t care about solutions, just retribution. And short sighted ignorance like that is why we are where we are as a country today. Congrats, you’re the problem!
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KalelisagodApr 8, 2026
+5
It’s not emotion. I deal with kids all day and watch parents that could not care less. These parents need to be held accountable. As for these boys for all I care they should be locked away forever. There is a zero chance they amount to anything in society except for criminals or burdens. We need less of those.
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lennyxiiiApr 8, 2026
+18
Wow that was the newest anti capitalism fallacy of the week.
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NullhitterApr 8, 2026
+2
We have 365M people in the US. Majority of the population don't commit these type of crimes.
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Cumdump90001Apr 8, 2026
+10
Right. But that’s not an argument against anything I said?
People drive drunk all the time and don’t get in accidents. Thats not really relevant when someone says “you shouldn’t drive drunk.” Like… please think critically here.
Connect the dots. You can do it.
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NullhitterApr 8, 2026
+4
>Right. But that’s not an argument against anything I said?
You're crying about capitalism and I countered that the majority of the population don't turn out to be vicious monsters.
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Cumdump90001Apr 8, 2026
+4
Keep trying. I truly believe you can connect those dots if you just don’t give up! You got this, champ!
4
JuicyJuiceJTimeApr 8, 2026
+2
I barely got raised by my mom but you don't see me shooting up schools or doing this. Starting to think it's mostly just genetics that play into someone being evil
2
This_Site_SuxApr 8, 2026
+87
Tik tok
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ThePensiveEApr 8, 2026
+14
The Internet
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PM_ME_UR_VULVASAUR_Apr 8, 2026
+6
As my mamma used to say: not raised up, dragged up.
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URSAxMINORApr 8, 2026
+5
Probably the manosphere.
5
killacarnitas1209Apr 8, 2026
+10
Shitty parents who likely glorify narco corridos and narco culture. This is 100% some alucin bullshit, inspired by the narcos and sicarios they look up to.
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AyeMateyApr 8, 2026
+13
I was startled to read the phrasing in the linked news item , “four 17-year old MEN…”
Men? At 17?
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bbmarvelluvApr 8, 2026
+24
Well they’re Hispanic so ofc they’re gonna be called men
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csortlandApr 8, 2026
+3
Kick streamers and manosphere creeps.
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FuzzyEmployment5397Apr 8, 2026
+2
Andrew Tate and Joe Rogan
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Stiggy_McFigglestickApr 8, 2026
+1
The cartel lmfao
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CanuckleHeadOGApr 8, 2026
+1
Cartels obviously
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[deleted]Apr 8, 2026
+88
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FuzzyEmployment5397Apr 8, 2026
+7
Not agreeing or disagreeing, but that is not “teaching them a lesson” lol
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Correct_Doctor_1502Apr 8, 2026
+132
This should be 10 to 15 years minimum
Absolutely evil behavior
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zapporianApr 8, 2026
+1
Literal narco cartel behavior / emulation thereof
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patrickegApr 8, 2026
+228
Those mugshots though.
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Kaffe-MumrikenApr 8, 2026
+110
NOt enough broccoli hair. I’m disappointed.
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TonarinoTotoro1719Apr 8, 2026
+77
I’d hazard a guess that the broccoli hair is on its way out. I haven’t seen many young men with broccoli hair this Spring.
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TsunGeneralGrievousApr 8, 2026
+13
I saw a couple of three teens walking around with it last weekend. It’s still around
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LeRonBrames_Apr 8, 2026
+60
They’re all Hispanic lol broccoli cut not very common there, genetics have a bit to do with it as well they don’t appear to have type of hair for it.
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kyrgrat08Apr 8, 2026
+20
They’ve got the Edgar cut instead
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Furt_IIIApr 8, 2026
+17
It's the practically same cut, just one is with curly hair and the other is with straight hair.
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FriendsWithAPopstarApr 8, 2026
+44
Not one of them have the Edgar cut. Stop parroting shit you read online without knowing what it means lmfao
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Fit-Nectarine5047Apr 8, 2026
+5
Their eyes are dead 😳
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AngryStapplerApr 8, 2026
+17
The more I read the more I don’t care for these four fellas
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squintamongdablindApr 8, 2026
+77
> If convicted, the four teens face a prison sentence ranging from five to 99 years.
These teens are about to face the full weight of legal consequences for their actions. All for some senseless display of macho pride. What a shame!
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asmit10Apr 8, 2026
+7
I’d venture to guess they’ll get 10 years max, be out in 5, and have no real consequences for taking another’s life
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14Knightingale27Apr 8, 2026
+3
The victim isn't dead. Not that they shouldn't receive firm consequences, mind you, but the victim was never intended to die. They planned a beating, not a murder. I'm actually kind of surprised? Usually with these things a group gets together, shit gets out of hand, they go for murder.
They kidnapped him to beat him up, then let him go and told him not to tell the authorities (good on this kid for going there despite how scary it must've been too).
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redbandit001Apr 8, 2026
+43
No shame at all, more like a win. These type of individuals do not belong in a civilized society hopefully the justice system charges them accordingly and put them away for a long time.
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r3dditr0xApr 8, 2026
+141
I've never wanted to fit into any group that bad?
Like, when the torture starts, or is even hinted at, I'm 100% outtie.
That is, of course, assuming any of these dead-eyed nitwits had a moral core.
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NullhitterApr 8, 2026
+62
They admitted that they were planning it for a week. They don't have any morality.
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BaselineUnknownApr 8, 2026
+42
> AUSTIN, Texas - Four 17-year-old men are facing first-degree felony charges after allegedly kidnapping and torturing a classmate in an attack planned a week in advance.
> The suspects - identified as Jose Rojas-Alvarado, Oscar Armando Santiago-Martinez, Angel Lemus-Perez, and Carlos Roberto Oliva-Villeda - have each been charged with aggravated kidnapping with a deadly weapon. Lemus-Perez faces an additional charge of engaging in organized criminal activity.
> According to arrest affidavits, the attack occurred on February 19, 2026. The victim left Del Valle High School with three of the suspects under the impression they were going to get pizza. After a brief stop at a gas station, the suspects drove the victim to a home on FM 969, where a fourth suspect was waiting in a detached garage.
> Once inside the garage, the situation turned violent:
> Restraint: The suspects used duct tape to bind the victim’s hands and feet and cover his mouth.
> Assault: One suspect held a gun to the victim's head while the others beat him with aluminum bats, a walking cane, and a belt.
> Torture: The victim reported being burned, forced to drink alcohol, and repeatedly threatened with death.
> Recording: Investigators state the assault was recorded by one of the suspects.
Motive and Evidence
> The victim told investigators the attack was sparked by a dispute involving a girl—specifically, that he had been speaking to one of the suspect’s girlfriends. The suspects allegedly warned the victim that if he contacted the police, they would harm both him and his family.
> After being dropped off at a separate location, the victim reported the incident. Authorities documented extensive bruising and contusions across the victim's chest, back, and legs. During interviews, some of the suspects reportedly admitted to the assault, stating they had planned the attack roughly a week earlier.
Community Impact
> Del Valle ISD confirmed that the four suspects are no longer enrolled in the district. In a statement, the school district emphasized that the incident occurred off-campus and is being actively investigated by the Travis County Sheriff's Office.
> The news has left the student body shaken. "I thought it was insane," said student J'Kaideon Mitchell. "We never have anything super crazy like that."
> If convicted, the four teens face a prison sentence ranging from five to 99 years.
Peak small p**** energy. Fighting over a girl at 17.
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Discount_ExtraApr 8, 2026
+11
There are some very nice people with small penises.
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Manger-BabiesApr 8, 2026
+3
It sucks that the article was clearly done by a free tier Ai, so boring format.
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flipedturtleApr 8, 2026
+20
This is my old high school. This tracks. Those kids suck
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Th1rte3n1334Apr 8, 2026
+283
> In a statement, the school district emphasized that the incident occurred off-campus and is being actively investigated by the Travis County Sheriff's Office.
This seems to be the most important part to the school.
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thirsty4wifiApr 8, 2026
+229
What exactly do you expect them to say about a non-school related incident that happened off campus?
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DerptionaryApr 8, 2026
+25
Because schools will claim "We are responsible for you until you reach your home!" whenever you yourself misbehave in order to get you in trouble... but if you happen to be the victim then the school turns into "Oh it didn't happen at the school not our business!"
When I was in middle school I had an incident where they found out I had gotten into a fight on my way home and the school was threatening to suspend or expel me because they claimed they were responsible for me until I reached my front door.... right up until they discovered I was the one who had gotten attacked but managed to come out slightly better than the other kid. Then they flipped to it not being their business and that if I wanted to report it I should go to the police... but if I went to the police I might get in trouble too so maybe I should just let it go.
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UnremarkabklyUselessApr 8, 2026
+7
Why would the school say they are responsible for you until you reach home? Is it when you take the school bus? If not ymthe school is not responsible as soon as you exit the school premises.
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alj8002Apr 8, 2026
+12
One of the kids got hit with an organized crime charge, me thinks there’s potential gang activity going on at the school. There’s never just one gangbanger.
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PcrizApr 8, 2026
+18
And probably all the parents of other children not involved.
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SplinterfightApr 8, 2026
+36
I mean yeah, it’s mostly not their problem
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culb77Apr 8, 2026
+25
“Del Valle ISD confirmed that the four suspects are no longer enrolled in the district.”
You left out the part where the district kicked them out. The statement was to try and reassure parents that the school grounds are safe.
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Western-Dig-6843Apr 8, 2026
+27
Why wouldn’t it be? The school is staying out of the way and letting the police work the case, as they should.
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mountainyooApr 8, 2026
+60
Some of the ugliest mfers I ever did see
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0llie0llieApr 8, 2026
+34
“17-year-old men” isn’t something I expected to read today
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gopercolateApr 8, 2026
+5
> Investigators state the assault was recorded by one of the suspects.
Have fun in jail…
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Quarterafter10Apr 8, 2026
+73
They all look soulless. No light in those eyes. Pure darkness.
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AItechsearchApr 8, 2026
+12
Imagine your salary could range from $5k-$99K, f*** it we’ll just spin the wheel!!
LIFE W/O PAROLE
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Scfbigb1Apr 8, 2026
+12
I imagine this will be locked within another hour or so.
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viera_enjoyerApr 8, 2026
+33
That's narco behavior. They forgot they are in the US, not Mexico. Glad the kid wasn't afraid to report them.
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killacarnitas1209Apr 8, 2026
+26
Yup, 100% alucin bullshit. Glorifying that shit is all over social media.
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H3LL-MAU5Apr 8, 2026
+14
As a Mexican let me tell you that this is the reason why them white folks don’t want us here… smh making us look bad
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Separate-Dealer4565Apr 8, 2026
+5
Enjoy the b**** house. Well deserved.
5
TheSilentPrinceApr 8, 2026
+56
So, looking at them, there's a good chance this will be a Republican talking point for the foreseeable future. Especially likely, depending on who the victim was, if that comes out. I also don't expect the bare facts, or evidence, to be the main focus either.
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donkeybrainheroApr 8, 2026
+80
Just look at how it's written. "17-year old men." I've never seen a news outlet refer to underage teens as "men". But it elicits a stronger reaction rather than saying "highschoolers" or "teens". Now, apply that to their names and mugshots, and you get your talking point.
What they did is horrific, but this is definitely being framed this way for a reason beyond informative reporting.
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AdulteryApr 8, 2026
+97
The Texas criminal justice system says 17 year olds are adults. If you’re 17 and get arrested, they’re taking you to adult jail.
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Ok-disaster2022Apr 8, 2026
+7
Part of that is to protect the legal rights if the accused. Minors tried as minors have reduced rights for defense compared to someone tried as an adult
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PhoenixTineldyerApr 8, 2026
+30
It's Texas, they want them tried as adults so they call them men.
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NullhitterApr 8, 2026
+22
Did you read what they did? They should be tried as adults.
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PhoenixTineldyerApr 8, 2026
+7
That's not the point I'm making, simply explaining why Texas news refers to 17 year old criminals as men.
I think the justice system is too good for these lowlife sacks of shit, personally.
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TurnkeyLurkerApr 8, 2026
+4
"Where men are men, and sheep are nervous."
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NullhitterApr 8, 2026
+5
Ah yes, CBS. The hard hitting MAGA run corporation \*rolls eyes\*.
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Careless-Metal-768Apr 8, 2026
+11
You're so worried about how it's being framed, but informative reporting is not a real thing anymore. Everything is skewed. Either way this should illicit a strong reaction, if you want people like this, living around your neighborhood go for it. Any teenager who's capable of this sort of thing in my opinion should be tried as an adult and held to the same consequence.
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donkeybrainheroApr 8, 2026
-6
Who said anything about wanting them to be free or around my neighborhood?
-6
SolistariaApr 8, 2026
-1
I pretty regularly see the media cast teenage males as men when their skin is brown.
-1
Careless-Metal-768Apr 8, 2026
+20
Why are you defending teenagers who tortured another teenager? Maybe take a step back from your stupid political beliefs for a quick second and see what it is
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PterocactiApr 8, 2026
+3
the person you are replying to did not defend them at all
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One-Risk-7342Apr 8, 2026
+5
Yeah, I think the comment talking about the republicans, is just implying this case has sensationalist potential to increase populist support to the Republican Party. This happens all the time in media, and it risks twisting the moral gravity of the case into a political selling point.
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Bob_Juan_SantosApr 8, 2026
+3
parenting sure has gone downhill for some people. what a tragedy and a shame.
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1egg_4uApr 8, 2026
+7
This is a tale as old as time tbh
Teenagers throughout history have always been kind of terrifying. Some people are capable of incredible violence and when your prefrontal cortex is still developing and you're raging full of hormones and trying to prove yourself to your friends it can be a recipe for some seriously fucked up behaviour, and as a result this kind of story is one that has happened every once in a while since basically the beginning of time.
Like... if you want to traumatize yourself you can read about Junko Furuta, Shanda Sharer, Sylvia Likens (kinda counts cause her caregiver was the one bringing kids into it)
It unfortunately isnt something new
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mroo7oo7Apr 8, 2026
+3
Written by AI. Jesus. We’re fucked.
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Reason_ChoiceApr 8, 2026
+7
We have an AI Jesus now?
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IsHotDogSandwichApr 8, 2026
+3
Always has been
3
backtrack801Apr 8, 2026
+1
Thugs tend to be beyond stupid but this is spectacularly stupid. Almost Alpha Dog stupid, not quite but close.
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