>If convicted, the four teens face a prison sentence ranging from five to 99 years.
That’s quite a range
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ElectricL1brary3 days ago
+404
They’re gonna spin a wheel they borrowed from wheel of fortune
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random3143 days ago
+64
It's now the wheel of misfortune.
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Moe_jartin3 days ago
+10
*audible gasp*
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Top_Seaweed71893 days ago
+1
So bad movies are the punishment?
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Landrycd3 days ago
+51
Best we can do is this wheel we built from scraps and attached a bunch of those door stopper springs to it.
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WarriorInWoolworths3 days ago
+6
[“Wheel of Morality, turn turn turn! Tell them the lesson they should (but probably will not) learn!”](https://youtu.be/xv6IWX1_XHQ?si=bOg2hxZTA4rVsUEN)
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[deleted]3 days ago
+3
[removed]
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Broccobillo3 days ago
+12
I know what it is but I'm not sure I'm allowed to say it.
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peepdabidness3 days ago
+7
God i love this episode
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FallOutShelterBoy3 days ago
+9
Five seconds, Mr. Marsh.
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Wizchine3 days ago
+1
Bust a deal, spin the wheel....
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IllustriousHair19273 days ago
+12
they forgot the words “or life”.
First-degree felony punishment range in Texas is definitely very broad. Technically if one were to receive a sentence of 10 years or less, they would actually be eligible for probation.
There are definitely arguments to be made in support of and against this broad range. in reality, the parole laws in Texas for a violent offense like this make it so any sentence in excess of 60 years really only affects how long someone will be on parole after they are released. On an offense like this, first parole eligibility comes at half of the sentence or 30 years, whichever is less. So 61 to 99 has the same parole eligibility as life.
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Rimurooooo3 days ago
+24
Bet it’s just depending on what the prosecutor thinks will stick. Texas is big on the prison industrial complex…. In this case it’s not so bad tho
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PM_tanlines3 days ago
+5
5-99 is just the range for a first degree felony in Texas
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riaowo3 days ago
+4
Yup that’s texas for they also have that if you’re convicted of murder your sentence can be from 5-99 years the judge has a ton of leeway in sentencing people
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Huldukona3 days ago
+2
Apparently one of them faces charges for organized crimes as well
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Wizchine3 days ago
+880
All for the "offense"of talking to one of these pud's girlfriends.
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Fabulous_Jeweler27323 days ago
+100
Ex girlfriend, if she’s isn’t evil
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Spire_Citron3 days ago
+42
I would be terrified to break up with him if this is how he reacts to things he doesn't like. Maybe just never contact him again and hope his sentence ends up being on the longer end of things...
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Nathund3 days ago
+762
Insecurity is a wild thing
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whk19923 days ago
+186
I wish the president understands.
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zapporian3 days ago
+1
17 year olds with guns and emulating literal cartel behavior is a wild and obviously should be highly illegal (by those kids, and all adults / mentors present / not present), thing
though then again this is TX
anyways, anyone blaming tiktok for this is… wildly off the mark. if I were to guess
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Herpskate3 days ago
+654
Who tf are raising these children?
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Jaiden_Darkfeather3 days ago
+721
No one is, that's the problem.
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onemorelightgoesout3 days ago
+243
Often it's people who didn't really get raised themselves
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Cumdump900013 days ago
+127
Sure would be great if we didn’t live in a soul crushing capitalist hellscape where parents have to spend all their time and energy working just to barely make ends meet instead of being able to be there for their kids.
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strega_bella3123 days ago
+311
It would also be great if people who were not mentally/emotionally equipped to have children just...stopped having them. I know plenty of adults who don't work 2-3 jobs and have spare time to spend w their kids and still f*** them up bc they're just terrible people.
ETA: someone commented and deleted something about "you can't fault stupid people and prevent them from having kids when education is such shit in this country " - smart and stupid has nothing to do w it. I know dumb as f*** people who raised beautiful children w love and respect. I'm talking about the mentally stunted narcissistic lazy assholes who give zero thought to the kinds of people they're sending out into the world w the rest of us.
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gofishx3 days ago
+53
The problem is that relying on "this type of person shouldn't do that thing" isnt ever going to be a viable solution for any human problem. People in generalare always going to f***, they are always going to do drugs, they are always going to try to break the rules, and they are always going to disagree on things. The most effective solutions to these sorts of things need to work with people, not against.
You cant necessarily prevent bad parents, but a community can come together to make sure the local kids have access to good schools, safe spaces for children, youth outreach, recreational sports, etc in order to give those kids a better shot at life, security, and happiness.
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OMGWTFBBQUE3 days ago
+9
Well the really great news is that this took place in Texas, and reproductive rights there are really blossoming!
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Cumdump900013 days ago
+78
I agree. Access to contraception and abortion should be a guaranteed right to all people.
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lennyxiii3 days ago
+35
Even if it was these kind of people typically wouldn’t use it.
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Captain_R642073 days ago
+4
So quick question.
Who decides who lowlifes are?
What living standards are we abiding by?
What happens when the cities are at fault for living situations?
Would we sterilize people before they have kids?
What happens to the kids abused outside of their home? Would we automatically sterilize abuse victims since more than zero end up abusing children like they were?
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StupidNSFW3 days ago
+31
Trust me, those parents would still exist even if we had universal healthcare and childcare.
Plenty of adults walking around out there who are basically just overgrown teenagers
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Beginning-Sound-75163 days ago
+52
I think there’s a little more at play here than capitalism making their parents have to work long hours… plenty of the killers from my citys parents don’t have jobs at all. It’s possible to raise your child to not kidnap and torture people even while putting in a 60 hour work week
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YomiKuzuki3 days ago
+32
Please, let's not delude ourselves into thinking that's the only reason.
There are people who have kids just to tick a box or to show off. They don't actually give a shit about their kids, just how their kids existence can benefit them.
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GermanPayroll3 days ago
+22
Or maybe they’re just bad people. At some point you just don’t torture people even if your parents have to work two jobs.
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Cumdump900013 days ago
+3
Yeah, bad people exist. But a whole lot of society’s problems stem from people’s basic needs not being met. It’s literally just a fact that people do less crime and are generally better to each other when their needs are met and they have opportunities in life. Saying that bad people will still exist doesn’t detract from anything I’ve said.
People still drive drunk so we should just get rid of laws against drunk driving? Or do we do what we can to address the problem and then handle those who still are a problem regardless?
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ProfessionalPack72053 days ago
+9
I mean just saying this happens in every society. Happened long before capitalism happened. I'm not syaing it's helping but it's been a problem forever
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Kalelisagod3 days ago
+24
Then don’t f****** have them. Making excuses for shitty parenting is about the lamest thing I’ve heard. These kids are predators and should be in prison forever. But their parents should be held accountable also. Personally if a child is found guilty of a violent crime the parent should do 50% of the time with them. No f****** exceptions.
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Cumdump900013 days ago
+4
Advocating for a better society isn’t making excuses for shitty parenting. Recognizing the reality of the situation isn’t making excuses. It’s facing reality, calling the problem what it is, and advocating for a solution.
You clearly let emotion rule your mind and don’t care about solutions, just retribution. And short sighted ignorance like that is why we are where we are as a country today. Congrats, you’re the problem!
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Kalelisagod3 days ago
+5
It’s not emotion. I deal with kids all day and watch parents that could not care less. These parents need to be held accountable. As for these boys for all I care they should be locked away forever. There is a zero chance they amount to anything in society except for criminals or burdens. We need less of those.
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lennyxiii3 days ago
+18
Wow that was the newest anti capitalism fallacy of the week.
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Nullhitter3 days ago
+2
We have 365M people in the US. Majority of the population don't commit these type of crimes.
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Cumdump900013 days ago
+10
Right. But that’s not an argument against anything I said?
People drive drunk all the time and don’t get in accidents. Thats not really relevant when someone says “you shouldn’t drive drunk.” Like… please think critically here.
Connect the dots. You can do it.
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Nullhitter3 days ago
+4
>Right. But that’s not an argument against anything I said?
You're crying about capitalism and I countered that the majority of the population don't turn out to be vicious monsters.
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Cumdump900013 days ago
+4
Keep trying. I truly believe you can connect those dots if you just don’t give up! You got this, champ!
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JuicyJuiceJTime3 days ago
+2
I barely got raised by my mom but you don't see me shooting up schools or doing this. Starting to think it's mostly just genetics that play into someone being evil
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This_Site_Sux3 days ago
+87
Tik tok
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ThePensiveE3 days ago
+14
The Internet
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PM_ME_UR_VULVASAUR_3 days ago
+6
As my mamma used to say: not raised up, dragged up.
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URSAxMINOR3 days ago
+5
Probably the manosphere.
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killacarnitas12093 days ago
+10
Shitty parents who likely glorify narco corridos and narco culture. This is 100% some alucin bullshit, inspired by the narcos and sicarios they look up to.
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AyeMatey3 days ago
+13
I was startled to read the phrasing in the linked news item , “four 17-year old MEN…”
Men? At 17?
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bbmarvelluv3 days ago
+24
Well they’re Hispanic so ofc they’re gonna be called men
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csortland3 days ago
+3
Kick streamers and manosphere creeps.
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FuzzyEmployment53973 days ago
+2
Andrew Tate and Joe Rogan
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Stiggy_McFigglestick3 days ago
+1
The cartel lmfao
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CanuckleHeadOG3 days ago
+1
Cartels obviously
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[deleted]3 days ago
+88
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FuzzyEmployment53973 days ago
+7
Not agreeing or disagreeing, but that is not “teaching them a lesson” lol
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Correct_Doctor_15023 days ago
+132
This should be 10 to 15 years minimum
Absolutely evil behavior
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zapporian3 days ago
+1
Literal narco cartel behavior / emulation thereof
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patrickeg3 days ago
+228
Those mugshots though.
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Kaffe-Mumriken3 days ago
+110
NOt enough broccoli hair. I’m disappointed.
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TonarinoTotoro17193 days ago
+77
I’d hazard a guess that the broccoli hair is on its way out. I haven’t seen many young men with broccoli hair this Spring.
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TsunGeneralGrievous3 days ago
+13
I saw a couple of three teens walking around with it last weekend. It’s still around
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LeRonBrames_3 days ago
+60
They’re all Hispanic lol broccoli cut not very common there, genetics have a bit to do with it as well they don’t appear to have type of hair for it.
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kyrgrat083 days ago
+20
They’ve got the Edgar cut instead
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Furt_III3 days ago
+17
It's the practically same cut, just one is with curly hair and the other is with straight hair.
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FriendsWithAPopstar3 days ago
+44
Not one of them have the Edgar cut. Stop parroting shit you read online without knowing what it means lmfao
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Fit-Nectarine50473 days ago
+5
Their eyes are dead 😳
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AngryStappler3 days ago
+17
The more I read the more I don’t care for these four fellas
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squintamongdablind3 days ago
+77
> If convicted, the four teens face a prison sentence ranging from five to 99 years.
These teens are about to face the full weight of legal consequences for their actions. All for some senseless display of macho pride. What a shame!
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asmit103 days ago
+7
I’d venture to guess they’ll get 10 years max, be out in 5, and have no real consequences for taking another’s life
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14Knightingale273 days ago
+3
The victim isn't dead. Not that they shouldn't receive firm consequences, mind you, but the victim was never intended to die. They planned a beating, not a murder. I'm actually kind of surprised? Usually with these things a group gets together, shit gets out of hand, they go for murder.
They kidnapped him to beat him up, then let him go and told him not to tell the authorities (good on this kid for going there despite how scary it must've been too).
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redbandit0013 days ago
+43
No shame at all, more like a win. These type of individuals do not belong in a civilized society hopefully the justice system charges them accordingly and put them away for a long time.
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r3dditr0x3 days ago
+141
I've never wanted to fit into any group that bad?
Like, when the torture starts, or is even hinted at, I'm 100% outtie.
That is, of course, assuming any of these dead-eyed nitwits had a moral core.
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Nullhitter3 days ago
+62
They admitted that they were planning it for a week. They don't have any morality.
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BaselineUnknown3 days ago
+42
> AUSTIN, Texas - Four 17-year-old men are facing first-degree felony charges after allegedly kidnapping and torturing a classmate in an attack planned a week in advance.
> The suspects - identified as Jose Rojas-Alvarado, Oscar Armando Santiago-Martinez, Angel Lemus-Perez, and Carlos Roberto Oliva-Villeda - have each been charged with aggravated kidnapping with a deadly weapon. Lemus-Perez faces an additional charge of engaging in organized criminal activity.
> According to arrest affidavits, the attack occurred on February 19, 2026. The victim left Del Valle High School with three of the suspects under the impression they were going to get pizza. After a brief stop at a gas station, the suspects drove the victim to a home on FM 969, where a fourth suspect was waiting in a detached garage.
> Once inside the garage, the situation turned violent:
> Restraint: The suspects used duct tape to bind the victim’s hands and feet and cover his mouth.
> Assault: One suspect held a gun to the victim's head while the others beat him with aluminum bats, a walking cane, and a belt.
> Torture: The victim reported being burned, forced to drink alcohol, and repeatedly threatened with death.
> Recording: Investigators state the assault was recorded by one of the suspects.
Motive and Evidence
> The victim told investigators the attack was sparked by a dispute involving a girl—specifically, that he had been speaking to one of the suspect’s girlfriends. The suspects allegedly warned the victim that if he contacted the police, they would harm both him and his family.
> After being dropped off at a separate location, the victim reported the incident. Authorities documented extensive bruising and contusions across the victim's chest, back, and legs. During interviews, some of the suspects reportedly admitted to the assault, stating they had planned the attack roughly a week earlier.
Community Impact
> Del Valle ISD confirmed that the four suspects are no longer enrolled in the district. In a statement, the school district emphasized that the incident occurred off-campus and is being actively investigated by the Travis County Sheriff's Office.
> The news has left the student body shaken. "I thought it was insane," said student J'Kaideon Mitchell. "We never have anything super crazy like that."
> If convicted, the four teens face a prison sentence ranging from five to 99 years.
Peak small p**** energy. Fighting over a girl at 17.
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Discount_Extra3 days ago
+11
There are some very nice people with small penises.
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Manger-Babies3 days ago
+3
It sucks that the article was clearly done by a free tier Ai, so boring format.
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flipedturtle3 days ago
+20
This is my old high school. This tracks. Those kids suck
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Th1rte3n13343 days ago
+283
> In a statement, the school district emphasized that the incident occurred off-campus and is being actively investigated by the Travis County Sheriff's Office.
This seems to be the most important part to the school.
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thirsty4wifi3 days ago
+229
What exactly do you expect them to say about a non-school related incident that happened off campus?
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Derptionary3 days ago
+25
Because schools will claim "We are responsible for you until you reach your home!" whenever you yourself misbehave in order to get you in trouble... but if you happen to be the victim then the school turns into "Oh it didn't happen at the school not our business!"
When I was in middle school I had an incident where they found out I had gotten into a fight on my way home and the school was threatening to suspend or expel me because they claimed they were responsible for me until I reached my front door.... right up until they discovered I was the one who had gotten attacked but managed to come out slightly better than the other kid. Then they flipped to it not being their business and that if I wanted to report it I should go to the police... but if I went to the police I might get in trouble too so maybe I should just let it go.
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UnremarkabklyUseless3 days ago
+7
Why would the school say they are responsible for you until you reach home? Is it when you take the school bus? If not ymthe school is not responsible as soon as you exit the school premises.
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alj80023 days ago
+12
One of the kids got hit with an organized crime charge, me thinks there’s potential gang activity going on at the school. There’s never just one gangbanger.
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Pcriz3 days ago
+18
And probably all the parents of other children not involved.
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Splinterfight3 days ago
+36
I mean yeah, it’s mostly not their problem
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culb773 days ago
+25
“Del Valle ISD confirmed that the four suspects are no longer enrolled in the district.”
You left out the part where the district kicked them out. The statement was to try and reassure parents that the school grounds are safe.
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Western-Dig-68433 days ago
+27
Why wouldn’t it be? The school is staying out of the way and letting the police work the case, as they should.
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mountainyoo3 days ago
+60
Some of the ugliest mfers I ever did see
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0llie0llie3 days ago
+34
“17-year-old men” isn’t something I expected to read today
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gopercolate3 days ago
+5
> Investigators state the assault was recorded by one of the suspects.
Have fun in jail…
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Quarterafter103 days ago
+73
They all look soulless. No light in those eyes. Pure darkness.
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AItechsearch3 days ago
+12
Imagine your salary could range from $5k-$99K, f*** it we’ll just spin the wheel!!
LIFE W/O PAROLE
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Scfbigb13 days ago
+12
I imagine this will be locked within another hour or so.
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viera_enjoyer3 days ago
+33
That's narco behavior. They forgot they are in the US, not Mexico. Glad the kid wasn't afraid to report them.
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killacarnitas12093 days ago
+26
Yup, 100% alucin bullshit. Glorifying that shit is all over social media.
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H3LL-MAU53 days ago
+14
As a Mexican let me tell you that this is the reason why them white folks don’t want us here… smh making us look bad
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Separate-Dealer45653 days ago
+5
Enjoy the b**** house. Well deserved.
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TheSilentPrince3 days ago
+56
So, looking at them, there's a good chance this will be a Republican talking point for the foreseeable future. Especially likely, depending on who the victim was, if that comes out. I also don't expect the bare facts, or evidence, to be the main focus either.
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donkeybrainhero3 days ago
+80
Just look at how it's written. "17-year old men." I've never seen a news outlet refer to underage teens as "men". But it elicits a stronger reaction rather than saying "highschoolers" or "teens". Now, apply that to their names and mugshots, and you get your talking point.
What they did is horrific, but this is definitely being framed this way for a reason beyond informative reporting.
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Adultery3 days ago
+97
The Texas criminal justice system says 17 year olds are adults. If you’re 17 and get arrested, they’re taking you to adult jail.
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Ok-disaster20223 days ago
+7
Part of that is to protect the legal rights if the accused. Minors tried as minors have reduced rights for defense compared to someone tried as an adult
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PhoenixTineldyer3 days ago
+30
It's Texas, they want them tried as adults so they call them men.
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Nullhitter3 days ago
+22
Did you read what they did? They should be tried as adults.
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PhoenixTineldyer3 days ago
+7
That's not the point I'm making, simply explaining why Texas news refers to 17 year old criminals as men.
I think the justice system is too good for these lowlife sacks of shit, personally.
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TurnkeyLurker3 days ago
+4
"Where men are men, and sheep are nervous."
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Nullhitter3 days ago
+5
Ah yes, CBS. The hard hitting MAGA run corporation \*rolls eyes\*.
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Careless-Metal-7683 days ago
+11
You're so worried about how it's being framed, but informative reporting is not a real thing anymore. Everything is skewed. Either way this should illicit a strong reaction, if you want people like this, living around your neighborhood go for it. Any teenager who's capable of this sort of thing in my opinion should be tried as an adult and held to the same consequence.
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donkeybrainhero3 days ago
-6
Who said anything about wanting them to be free or around my neighborhood?
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Solistaria3 days ago
-1
I pretty regularly see the media cast teenage males as men when their skin is brown.
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Careless-Metal-7683 days ago
+20
Why are you defending teenagers who tortured another teenager? Maybe take a step back from your stupid political beliefs for a quick second and see what it is
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Pterocacti3 days ago
+3
the person you are replying to did not defend them at all
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One-Risk-73423 days ago
+5
Yeah, I think the comment talking about the republicans, is just implying this case has sensationalist potential to increase populist support to the Republican Party. This happens all the time in media, and it risks twisting the moral gravity of the case into a political selling point.
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Bob_Juan_Santos3 days ago
+3
parenting sure has gone downhill for some people. what a tragedy and a shame.
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1egg_4u3 days ago
+7
This is a tale as old as time tbh
Teenagers throughout history have always been kind of terrifying. Some people are capable of incredible violence and when your prefrontal cortex is still developing and you're raging full of hormones and trying to prove yourself to your friends it can be a recipe for some seriously fucked up behaviour, and as a result this kind of story is one that has happened every once in a while since basically the beginning of time.
Like... if you want to traumatize yourself you can read about Junko Furuta, Shanda Sharer, Sylvia Likens (kinda counts cause her caregiver was the one bringing kids into it)
It unfortunately isnt something new
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mroo7oo73 days ago
+3
Written by AI. Jesus. We’re fucked.
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Reason_Choice3 days ago
+7
We have an AI Jesus now?
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IsHotDogSandwich3 days ago
+3
Always has been
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backtrack8013 days ago
+1
Thugs tend to be beyond stupid but this is spectacularly stupid. Almost Alpha Dog stupid, not quite but close.
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