France rules out immediate deployment of frigates to Strait of Hormuz

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Then China can go free it.

That is why bringing a frigate is good, you have a backup option if you deem the alternative not worth it

To europe? Hahahaha gonna get pissy or something? Shut up and sit back down.

Do you know what a tariff is? Also saying they are shutting down the strait is literally taking oil hostage.

Yeah apparently carpet bombing Tehran and Beirut and killing hundreds of innocent people doesn’t count in the US and Israel’s eyes. And completely leveling Gaza, killing tens and tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians… that doesn’t count either.

Obsession with contrast is a big one. The AI uses 8 contrast statements in 6 paragraphs here: P1: >No immediate deployment" is NOT the same as "we're staying out" 1. X is not Y P2: >The 18-country transit plan, the mine-clearing language, the future e***** possibility, this is Paris positioning itself as the indispensable broker for whatever comes after the ceasefire, without taking on any of the risk before it stabilises 2. Paris is doing x without doing y P3: >It's actually a sophisticated move.  3. Y is sophisticated not simple > France doesn't want to be a junior partner in a US led naval coalition. It wants to lead the multilateral framework that makes the strait functional again.  4. Y wants to lead not follow  >That's a different kind of power projection ( slower, less visible but potentially more durable) 5. Y is different than X, Y is less visible, more powerful P4: >The mine-clearing detail is the most important line in this statement and nobody is talking about it.  6. Y is the most important, but is being treated as unimportant  >Mines in the Strait of Hormuz don't disappear with a ceasefire. They require weeks of specialized naval operations. 7. Y doesn't happen immediately, it happens over time. P5 NA P6 >Watch which 17 countries are in that coalition. That list will tell you more about postconflict Hormuz governance than any official statement 8. Y is more informative than x.

You just end up developing a nack for it. Things like: "nobody is talking about it" "That's a different kind of power projection" If you read the whole thing carefully it is basically nonsense, it feels weird and no person would actually write like this.

Don't interact with accounts that were created the same time as this conflict started. It's a high probability they're bots. 

Ideally, yes but who could stop them - the US can't bomb them to force them to open the strait. The only thing that can stop random IRGC commanders from shooting missiles at ships is the IRGC command. Iran controlling the strait would be a big win for them, but I don't see how anyone can stop them if they make that the most important part of any lasting peace. It sets a terrible precident but that is what happens when the US acts like a bully and didn't think it's actions through.

F****** right, I like your thinking. Run up the colours, Mr Johnson. Empire returns. 🇬🇧

If Iran charges tolls of $1/bbw, what you gonna do? Go to war over that?

The Uk wasnt invaded illegally and in the middle of a huge international f*** up where they NEED some sort of leverage. Trying to compare the two is kinda ridiculous. Iran has already been trading favours such as favourable speechs while not in support of the Iranian regime but against the war. At this stage who is going stop them? As long as they dont massivly over play their hand with this I reckon a lot of countries will let it happen for smooth transit.

You think way to much of the UK if you think they could organise something like that. Look, the best we can honestly do is commission some consultants to write a report about whether we should maybe possibly look into ships that could potentially be used for this. A company like Capita will oversee this. They’ll charge £50m, deliver a binder nobody reads, and by the time they’re done Spain will own Gibraltar anyway.

Diplomacy and negotiation. Compared to war, tolls are c****. 

The f*** are you talking about. My country never started any war in the Middle East.

France beating the US with one air drop 50 years ago! Damn, when will France stop winning, is it even going to be in my lifetime.

I love how both the left and the right hate Europe for not punishing Israel enough and at the same punishing Israel too much according to you... That's why centrists like Macron must be doing something right lol

Long live the USA, stopping Iran from murdering children by bombing schools themself. Truly 4d chess !

Who gives a f*** if you're an ex-Muslim? Why does that somehow make you more qualified than the rest of us to determine if it's a bad idea or not to allow the United States to ruin the world economy because of a poorly thought-out war? I'm sick of these diasporoid grievances.

And only started posting only pro-us imperialism from this new account when the war started.  Sure jan

Ah yes. I forgot that WWII was a war of choice for Poland, France, and Britain and started when they went in half-cocked and attacked Germany. Clearly these are identical situations. Very smart observation.

Exactly, they shouldn't be required to. The US jumped into this war without consulting any of the EU, and caused the straight to be closed in the first place. Now the US is trying to demand everyone come help them clean up only after making it everyone else's problem. It isnt lack of leadership to expect the barest minimum of having the US fix the mess it made. Plus outside of making them join the war, im not really sure what we expect them to do here.