Is it really a betrayal if it's been their modus operandi for years?
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MrFilkorApr 9, 2026
+84
Hungarians even voted for this *twice* (2018, 2022), giving them absolute power. And it was well known (even then), that they were Russian puppets.
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luca3791Apr 9, 2026
+15
Stupid people gone stupid
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Constant_Wear_8919Apr 9, 2026
+1
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NoConsideration1777Apr 9, 2026
+14
Yes, sir it is. It’s just that much worse…
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HobbesinaApr 9, 2026
+5
Yes. Yes it is.
5
StemCellPirateApr 9, 2026
+57
Putin has a tight leash on him!
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snoosh00Apr 9, 2026
+22
So like... Why is JD Vance campaigning for him?
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VEMODMASKINENApr 9, 2026
+24
Because Putin has a tight leash on Trump too?
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snoosh00Apr 9, 2026
+3
Oh, I'm aware.
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Overall-Medicine4308Apr 9, 2026
+2
Trump has a fondness for anti-liberal movements around the world.
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snoosh00Apr 9, 2026
+4
I know.
My rhetorical question was kinda pointless (because it's so obvious)
4
Ecureuil02Apr 9, 2026
+16
No kidding. How much is f****** up established world alliances worth keeping this guy out of jail?
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BuilderRemarkable242Apr 9, 2026
+10
To them? They'd rather burn this planet down
10
diegoecheApr 9, 2026
+4
Then why Hungarians are overwhelmingly supporting Orban?
I don't get it. I lived in Hungary. I read the history. Why do they want to be Russia's puppet state?
4
MinorKeyEnjoyerApr 9, 2026
+6
they’re not. polls have the opposition winning
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DassiellApr 9, 2026
+3
How about the last election, or one before that
3
Overall-Medicine4308Apr 9, 2026
+3
Orbán is buying the votes of poor people with food and money. He’s so much like Ukraine’s Yanukovych!
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diegoecheApr 9, 2026
+2
Unfortunately I've met people pro-orbán. Both in Budapest and outside of it. Some people truly believe the propaganda.
2
ionisedApr 9, 2026
+2
> leash
Yes.
2
PsyfreakptApr 9, 2026
+66
Ban the hungarians from EU meetings
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dragon1500zApr 10, 2026
-7
the uk has been kicked out but hungary no, crazy
-7
PuzzleheadedBear9340Apr 10, 2026
+6
Uk voted to leave, brexit remember?
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Few-Acadia-5593Apr 9, 2026
+26
Imagine, you sit with ten other people the one person at the table that kept saying “f*** this table” for x years becomes the mole… and you’re surprised? In 2026?
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windingsandApr 9, 2026
+50
If the US really is pulling out of nato in whatever form this would be a chance to make nato 2 without them and hungary
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CucumberWisdomApr 9, 2026
+19
They're not. Congress and the Senate would never approve it. Especially not after the midterms
19
notnickthrowawayApr 9, 2026
+29
Trump doesn’t care about what Congress does or doesn’t approve, all he has to do is sabotage and break it. Like he has been doing whichever way he can.
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Apprehensive-Air5353Apr 9, 2026
+2
That's not entirely true at all, and if Trump could just do whatever he wants then he would completely ignore all Supreme Court rulings, but he doesn't do that. As for congress, they never *actually* do anything to reign him in, but he would otherwise. They're still obeying some level of the law despite being fascists for some reason.
2
CrankHogger572Apr 9, 2026
+1
That's not true. He won't have the power to do so, he can't just declare that we're leaving NATO and have it actuallu mean anything. Also, Supreme Court would likely shoot down any Executive Orders he makes regarding NATO. They haven't been as partisan as Trump had hoped, he's been losing Supreme Court cases left and right lately
1
IOnlyEatFermionsApr 10, 2026
+1
Trump is Commander in Chief. The US remaining in NATO is meaningless if Trump won't order the US military to come to the aid of our allies in the event of an attack.
1
LeoDiamantApr 9, 2026
+5
You still think there will be midterms? Id say its a 50/50 at best.
5
Koala_eiOApr 9, 2026
+3
It's definitely going to be interesting. Hopefully Trump doesn't stage terrorist attacks on your soil to cancel the elections. Remind me in November.
3
LeoDiamantApr 9, 2026
+2
Yep, just sitting tight w a loose plan in the back pocket if things go sideways.
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W31337Apr 9, 2026
+1
The rest of NATO could leave and create NATO2. Then the USA wouldn't be a member.
1
TemporarySun314Apr 9, 2026
+24
nah. The rest of NATO stays, and the traitors can make up NATO 2 if they want..
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Mr_Waffles123Apr 9, 2026
-11
Can’t be NATO 2 since only Spaine and England are on the Atlantic.
-11
wollycottonbrainsApr 9, 2026
+9
Wha about Canada, Portugal, and France? They’re nato states as well.
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Mr_Waffles123Apr 9, 2026
-13
Well you see Greenland and Canada are going to be part of the North American Treaty Organization. Portugal doesn’t count and France is just there.
-13
Agitated_Reveal_6211Apr 9, 2026
+1
You should buy a map. Also, Spaine? Spain, or España.
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Mr_Waffles123Apr 10, 2026
+1
Did I not say Spaine? Maybe you should learn to read.
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DroctulftApr 10, 2026
+1
> Did I not say Spaine?
That’s his point. The country is not called that.
1
Alone_Again_2Apr 9, 2026
+6
I’ve a question for those more versed in internal Hungarian politics than I am.
If elected, does P Magyar dismantle the state apparatus that has been created to hold power (ie media control, redistribution of power to smaller counties, etc) or does he keep it and use to his own ends?
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ComPakkApr 9, 2026
+5
He promised to dismantle the old system and put countermeasures in place so it can't happen again.
He also presented some pretty realistic paths and goals to this if they win.
Obviously we will see what actually happens but if he keeps 40% of what he promised the old system will crumble.
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razgondkApr 9, 2026
+8
Slam!
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Expando3Apr 9, 2026
+3
Raise your hand if you thought Hungary was with NATO and not a mole in NATO passing intel to Russia.
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Electrical-Lab-9593Apr 9, 2026
+2
sometimes in intel, its better to have a mole you can watch, then be looking for an unexpected mole.
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Expando3Apr 9, 2026
+2
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
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Mr_Flibble_1977Apr 9, 2026
+7
No ' ' needed around betrayal. Call it what it is.
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pathanbApr 9, 2026
+4
These aren't air quotes, these are actual quotes. They mean that this word or phrase was directly used by the quoted person, it's not part of the article writer's explanation or commentary. Think of it as a soundbite, but for print media.
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ProfetF9Apr 9, 2026
+9
when will this be enough to kick them out of the EU?
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Explorer_1990_Apr 9, 2026
+15
12 APRIL we will have election
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CrankHogger572Apr 9, 2026
-1
And what are the odds the election is fair and isn't rigged? 0%? -3%?
-1
boerscApr 9, 2026
+11
You can't kick them out, but you can isolate them. No real information is shared with them any more, unless neede for a vote.
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letir_Apr 9, 2026
+3
That sounds pretty ridiculous. Running and hiding from fellow member of EU because you know that they share information with the enemy is not a solution.
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MespheliaApr 9, 2026
+2
THE RETURN OF SLAM!!!!
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sullyball008Apr 9, 2026
+2
And our VP kissing Orbans ass
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Al1n03Apr 9, 2026
+2
A suprise indeed , who would have guessed?
2
SuprKiddApr 9, 2026
+2
France conveniently ignoring the blatant proxy until it affects their bottom line, tsk tsk
2
rvretiredlifeApr 9, 2026
+3
Kick Hungary out of Nato and the EU, problem solved
3
GoethesFinestApr 9, 2026
+1
We really really really need consequences for how the Hungarian Government has been acting for at least 10 years. Makes me sad, that the EU apparently just looks past all of these things all the time.
1
Jman1aApr 9, 2026
+3
Imagine it was Poland or Italy doing this. Would be a full crisis within the EU. But Hungry? Nah
3
Ordinary_Local_6904Apr 9, 2026
+2
Kick hungary out of the eu and all other economic and defence agreements.
You’ve had 16 years of their nonsense, stop being so damn stubbornly weak.
Let them join up with the flailing belorussian and russian and serbian economies. They can reminisce and replicate the loser ussr together.
2
HiddenbyMoonApr 9, 2026
Get...Hungary...out...of the f******... European... f******... Union.
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Glittering-Star-766Apr 9, 2026
-17
France is the EU's biggest importer of Russian natural gas. They spend around half a billion euros a month for Russian gas.
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DaveyJonesXMRApr 9, 2026
-5
But but but nuclear supremacy
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ImbendoApr 9, 2026
-9
France doesn’t appreciate you bringing that up when they’re trying to have a moment
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unacceptablelobsterApr 9, 2026
-17
At this point a war between Europe and Russia, the US, and Hungary is unavoidable. We just need to hold out long enough for Germany to fully remilitarise.
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QuickjagerApr 9, 2026
+13
There is this wonderful thing called outside. You should check it out if you think that.
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Ultra_MetalApr 9, 2026
-17
Macron knows something about betrayals. He betrayed France by supporting Islamic extremism and terrorism.
-17
Barbu-GenialApr 9, 2026
-11
Et pendant ce temps, on veut nous imposer au travers d'une loi liberticide pour la France de s'empêcher de critiquer un pays...
loi Yadan.
Pour ceux qui sont passés à côté, voici le lien :
https://petitions.assemblee-nationale.fr/initiatives/i-5158
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