Worth mentionning is that France's National Gendarmerie (branch of the army in charge of countryside police), is running its own Ubuntu fork and has been for the past decade+. (82% adoption in 2018, 90% in 2019, 97% in 2024).
So there is some real experience here. That is not to say that a custom OS will be developped, but rather that there is some level of past experience to draw from.
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matdex2 days ago
+939
Can you imagine if the EU made their own Linux fork.
939
neko2 days ago
+608
OpenSuse is German made, and very stable
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dumbestsmartest2 days ago
+124
One of the few I didn't like when I was distro hopping a decade ago.
Then again, I found i didn't like or didn't have a good experience with many other than buntu or Arch based distros.
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neko2 days ago
+57
Oh I'm the exact opposite and loathe the *buntus. Arch is ok but requires too much daily maintenance
57
wrgrant2 days ago
+47
Just getting set up with CachyOS at the moment so I can move over from Win11. Dual booting while I take it slow to ensure i get everything working the way I want it to work but impressed so far.
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treidan2 days ago
+7
I made the complete jump to CachyOS back in October. Had some hardware issues particular to my setup, but outside of that I don't miss windows at all.
7
klopanda2 days ago
+10
Use Fedora. It's not rolling release but new versions come every six months, so you're never very far behind latest package versions.
The only updating I do these days is installing the new Fedora release a few weeks after its release.
10
defjam200002 days ago
+14
Mint is Irish
14
Sideshow-Bob-Ross2 days ago
+94
L'buntoux
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Vast_Koala_88472 days ago
+44
Linux, the operating system, originated in Europe, specifically Finland. Ubuntu was founded by Mark Shuttleworth, a British-South African national. Opensuse, another Linux distribution, is a fork of Germans.
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JesusKilledDemocracy2 days ago
+5
No, Linux, the kernel originated in Europe, specifically Finland. The bulk is GNU, which is from MIT- Mass USA
5
bwoahconstricter2 days ago
+107
Lineux
107
IgnitedSpade2 days ago
+52
Arch de Triomphe
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radiohead-nerd2 days ago
+22
Pronouced: Lin-ooo
22
bronzinorns2 days ago
+5
It would be linøøø (not really better)
5
elderron_spice2 days ago
+4
Ubunteux
4
ShittyTimeTraveler2 days ago
+104
EUbuntu
104
cynic_boy2 days ago
+29
Linus Torvalds is Finnish…
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Jatapa02 days ago
+5
And Unix was created by bell labs and these days bell labs is owned by Nokia.
5
extra_rice2 days ago
+4
No, he's not. He's still going.
4
Tolkfan2 days ago
+8
EurOS
8
biblecrumble2 days ago
+143
I think France absolutely could ship their own distro/os - there is a ton of bureaucracy and things move slowly, but they have a lot of top-tier developers (Docker, Mistral, Datadog and Hugging Face were all started by french engineers), and the smaller pay gap between the public vs private sector over there means that top talent isn't as incentivized to go straight to private companies as in the US. Not saying it's going to happen, but I definitely wouldn't outright rule out that possibility.
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jdmillar862 days ago
+100
Another very successful French software company is Dassault Systèmes, which is a huge player in CAD and related fields. Actually started when Dassault the aircraft company needed a CAD system and decided to make their own. CATIA is the result, and they also own Solidworks and a bunch of other stuff.
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Late-Bus-6862 days ago
+17
Yeah definitely give the work to the company that made such amazing products as… 3DExperience
17
UnlikelyHero7272 days ago
+7
I love SolidCrash
7
BadDaditude2 days ago
+70
And they have Daft Punk, so they know electronics
70
Koss4242 days ago
+17
They have done their Homework and could probably ship it Around the World pretty quickly.
17
Dr_Death_Defy242 days ago
+272
This comment should be higher.
At first glance of the headline I was somewhat incredulous—I get and wholeheartedly support any move away from Microsoft products, but this seems like it's going to create a *lot* of issues, especially in the short and medium term.
However, if they've already been using it successfully in other areas for so long, then it makes a lot more sense.
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Tucko292 days ago
+136
They have also been [replacing](https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con) Whatsapp, Zoom, Teams and more with french equivalents which are apparently very well designed too.
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here-for-the-meh2 days ago
+95
People forget that what used to take years and months to develop is moving much much faster now.
A government with dollars and smart developers can replace apps with some willpower and time.
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Matuno2 days ago
+35
People say this a lot, but it's rarely the programming that is hard to reproduce. 99% is infrastructure dealing with unfathomable amounts of concurrent connections and database changes and keeping everything functional throughout it. That takes a lot of time and experience.
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PlayfulSurprise52372 days ago
+4
The netcode/database side of tech is the craziest side of things for sure. Even in gaming where there are genuinely difficult tasks other than that(like programming AI or the engine itself). It's considered a miracle if an online game can have more than a few dozen people in one general area and the network hold up without hiccup.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if GTA6 releases, after billions spent, with their larger map, and they still only choose to make small lobbies in case everyone gathers around a single area cause the servers can't handle it flawlessly
4
Onrawi2 days ago
+46
France has had a strong tech industry for a long time. We just rarely hear about it directly in the US unless there is a merger going on.
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here-for-the-meh2 days ago
+37
People forgot that countries have their own brainpower and, thanks to 🤡, less motivation to come to the US for a tech company.
37
sSonga242 days ago
+41
which in a healthy society should be a huge benefit to the people
41
RobotSpaceBear2 days ago
+47
We're also using our own fork of libre office. Well it's still called Open Office but yeah.
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Lee11382 days ago
+21
Å group of European companies/orgs also just announced euro-office, which looks to be a OnlyOffice fork. Which seems like it could be a good alternative.
21
GreatnessToTheMoon2 days ago
+2264
IT workers will be eating 💸
2264
TheScrote12 days ago
+803
They’ll be actually working it sounds like
803
YeetedApple2 days ago
+240
We can do both at the same time
240
TheScrote12 days ago
+42
Yeah and itll be a long transition and you can slow walk or ignore all the other tickets that come in during the transition.
42
lmpcpedz2 days ago
+21
who needs tickets when you've got front row!
21
iamdestroyerofworlds2 days ago
+179
People when IT works just as intended:
***Oh my god they literally do nothing and are so lazy.***
People when IT doesn't work just as intended:
***Oh my god they literally do nothing and are so lazy.***
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Skullcrimp2 days ago
+65
That's why I literally do nothing and am lazy in my IT job. Might as well reap the benefits if that's what people will think either way.
65
TYO_HXC2 days ago
+11
This is the way.
11
compilerbusy2 days ago
+5
But I'm le tired
5
Pwalex2 days ago
+39
French government IT people? Lol, they'll work at the exact same rate as ever.
39
zeth0s2 days ago
+132
At least that money doesn't go in MS licenses...
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No_Criticism_58612 days ago
+32
Maintenance wise, i dont know. But the original conversion, absolutely
32
MiHumainMiRobot2 days ago
+27
That's part of the point. You don't switch away from Microsoft just for the sake of saving money.
No. Linux is not that cheaper when you need a good maintenance.
However what you get is sovereignty, faster support and more sustainable economics: being open source, you can pay local companies for the support.
On the long term, because you have more power on the code, the side effects might be cheaper IT infrastructure, but it is not the first goal
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Debisibusis2 days ago
+27
> aster support and more sustainable economics: being open source, you can pay local companies for the support
I always cringe when people talk about MS business support and how important it is. It has been absolutely useless every single time I had issues, always took at least 1-2 years to see patches.
Meanwhile, on pretty much any OSS project, I talk directly to the dev, which often times has a patch ready on the next day. If not, you can just fix it yourself.
27
SudoPamacUpdate2 days ago
+9
Please, we already have our hands full with two different versions of Outlook, and neither one of them is working. I recently had to create a VPN bypass because Microsoft randomly started using a suspicious server to download essential packages for installing Office in the UK. (That wouldn’t have been a problem with reliable package maintainers.) And don’t get me f****** started on Teams. Jesus Christ, what a cluster f***.
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Pherllerp2 days ago
+3457
Could you imagine having to teach the entire French bureaucracy how to use a new operating system?
Edit: This comment isn't about Linux or Windows. It's about PEOPLE. Imagine teaching a 60 year old office worker a whole new system, French or otherwise.
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Letsgoski_Broski2 days ago
+1503
Not as bad as teaching the entire Italian bureaucracy what is a computer!
1503
ineyy2 days ago
+529
Or teaching the German bureaucracy anything
529
Mouthshitter2 days ago
+243
Did you fill out the document 154.a.1.4
With your drivers ID and birth certificate and document 324.1.3.54.B
I cannot reply with an opinion to this comment without you having filled out the required documents and needs to be filled with the next 9 working days
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Ferrum-Cl22 days ago
+106
Sorry, but you need permit A38 first.
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Mouthshitter2 days ago
+62
I filled out A.38 with the clerk on the 3rd floor just a week ago
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Frust4m12 days ago
+92
A38 is outdated. we released A38b 3 days ago. you have to reapply. please review with 5 stars.
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Ferrum-Cl22 days ago
+39
Ah, i forget that there was a newsletter b65, the new permit is A39, to acquire at counter 42.
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perfectfifth_2 days ago
+25
In order to get the new permit A39, you need document 154.a.1.4 first
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Ferrum-Cl22 days ago
+16
At which counter can i get document 154.a.1.4 now and do i still need the green stamp?
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aBoringSod2 days ago
+22
But A.38 are only valid for a 3 day period you will need to apply for a new one. The department for applications has been transferred to the branch office.
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Mouthshitter2 days ago
+11
3 days! But the branch office is on the other side of town ill never make it back on time!
This is ridiculous!
Oh ill fill out a C34 on your department and you know it!
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aBoringSod2 days ago
+9
Sir please refrain from speaking to me in that tone or I will request security e***** you out of the building.
If you do want to fill out a c34 complaint form you will need to go to the branch office as well as the complaints department has been moved there as well.
How do you not know this we are furnishing the whole building and each department is being transferred. It was posted on the council newsletter.
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Ferrum-Cl22 days ago
+10
Sorry, there was a resent change, readable in newsletter B65. The new permit is now A39.
10
thembearjew2 days ago
+7
Agentur für Arbeit simulator
7
Vio_2 days ago
+37
"Might I introduce you to Sigma 6?"
German: "... I'm listening..."
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citrus_sugar2 days ago
+9
I f****** died.
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Pherllerp2 days ago
+42
Exactly, my comment was about the bureaucracy, not the system.
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Kittelsen2 days ago
+6
They'd want to be taught over fax I guess...
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CactusBoyScout2 days ago
+7
My friend was living in Germany during the pandemic and decided to leave the country when his local government announced that vaccine appointments would have to be made by fax.
He also apparently received medical test results on a burned CD despite not owning any devices that can read a CD-ROM.
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Donnicton2 days ago
+47
Well they did learn about Tifa, how much harder could it be?
47
ohanse2 days ago
+15
From Final Fantasy?
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awryvox2 days ago
+19
look up "italy tifa", its pretty funny
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UglyJuice12372 days ago
+25
don't do this on your work computer, unless you're an Italian senator
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Dijohn172 days ago
+19
Japan would be the worst
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fromkatain2 days ago
+12
Their fax machines use windows nt
12
fuckin_atodaso2 days ago
+370
Yeah, the people in your comment obviously don't get what you're talking about. The average computer literacy at a large organization is terrible. And I mean, "a desktop icon has gone missing and now I have no idea where to even open the program at" or "my email isn't working so I emailed for help and no one responded".
Saying that the UI is easy to use is missing the point, it is the change that people can't deal with.
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OldJames472 days ago
+89
I've watched a middle-aged Senior Director at a Fortune 500 company look at a spreadsheet, take the numbers from cells A1 and A2, add them in a calculator next to his keyboard and type the result into cell A3.
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joanfiggins2 days ago
+35
That happened to me last week. I asked another director if that was a calculator they were typing things into from the spreadsheet we had up on the TEAMS call. He didn't know you could just select the cells and it shows you the sum, average, etc in the bottom right of the screen. Using it for 25 years and just never took the time to learn. It's even worse because he was an engineer before getting into management so you would think he had used excel before
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Painwracker_Oni2 days ago
+17
I had no clue about that sum thing in the bottom right of the screen either lmao. Thanks for the new info.
I've always just used the auto sum functions for it which is obviously way more annoying when you want a particular set of info in the middle.
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Old_Leather_Sofa2 days ago
+7
To be fair, quite a lot of people don't know that one. It is crazy obvious when you know though.
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fuckin_atodaso2 days ago
+13
In one of my first jobs, I was tossed out of the office of the head of the psychiatry department at Ohio State because I asked him to print from a different tray in his printer.
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James-W-Tate2 days ago
+59
I work with computers. 90% of the time we need to migrate a profile for a user it results in them losing hours of work because they need to "find where everything is again"
When in reality all that happened is their desktop icons are just sorted alphabetically now.
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Zeggitt2 days ago
+30
Ive had people who stopped work ling because their outlook icons looked different after an update. Not in a different location, just looked different.
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James-W-Tate2 days ago
+30
Tbf if it switched them to New Outlook I'd stop working too lmao
30
Zeggitt2 days ago
+8
This was pre-new outlook. It was literally just an update to the icon designs in office 2016 or w/e
8
cantproveidid2 days ago
+12
MS Office used to have a menu bar that started office products called the "MOM" bar. If you accidentally clicked the "x" on it, it would close it, first asking if you wanted it to be there on restart. About half my customers would click "no" to any question, leading to many calls on how MS Office had disappeared from their computer.
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Zeggitt2 days ago
+16
"My office disappeared"
"Have you tried looking in the start menu?"
"Whats that?"
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RagingNerdaholic2 days ago
+18
In my over 20-ish years providing IT support (among other things), I'm convinced most people would be confused by a game of peek-a-boo.
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fuckin_atodaso2 days ago
+13
Yeah, you absolutely know the pain. It sounds ridiculous (and it sorta is) until you experience how common it is.
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paincrumbs2 days ago
+5
you know what, i'm just realizing how is this shit not something you can save along with the profile, like a simple exported list with coords that would be exportable/importable. kinda wild there wasn't any support for that
5
nlutrhk2 days ago
+4
Well, I wouldn't call myself IT naïve but I hate it when my employer hands me a new Windows laptop and I have to hunt where they have hidden keyboard settings.
Keyboard repeat rate, input languages, non-default keyboard layouts like Dvorak... It's all over the place in the settings. And it changes between service packs!
4
KartFacedThaoDien2 days ago
+51
Even if they DID know how to use Linux. They would still need to spend money on training.
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LordApocalyptica2 days ago
+42
UI’s and OSes keep changing *anyway* though. Windows itself went through some pretty big changes from 7 to 11. The tech illiterate are *always* going to have something to b**** about with the computer. Not changing to a new OS just because Karen will b**** like she always does is a nothingburger reason.
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mecker-zausel2 days ago
+11
This. 95% of users can cope with change as long as they're trained and taken by the hand for the first few steps.
The other 5%... you'll never reach them. But they'll have issues with any change.
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canspop2 days ago
+8
Have to admit, I was thinking the same. I tried Linux on an old PC, and it was so easy to adapt. Even LibreOffice seems 100% compatible, at least for my usage.
Then I remembered my days stuck in the office at work, where people would freak out just because an icon on the desktop had moved. It didn't even have to disappear.
Reminded me of an old [YouTube vid](https://youtu.be/uRGljemfwUE?si=zqkB3B4VDVz_uSas&t=482) though.
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Kataphractoi2 days ago
+11
[Feels apt to post this.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NUNEZ9-4v_E)
11
CasherburyTales2 days ago
+48
Anybody in IT projects and data knows exactly how much work and complexity is involved.
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BasicMatter73392 days ago
+71
I would guess the old bureaucrats there already have as much trouble with windows as they would have with linux
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Bxk__2 days ago
+46
Yeah I feel like the jump from W10 to W11 is about as drastic as W10 to Linux. I mean, all three are about as equally different. Linux nowadays isn't nearly as large a leap now as it was 10+ years back
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Kataphractoi2 days ago
+28
With distros like Mint, it's barely a hop. Software is a different conversation though, since government stuff and all that.
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MASTODON_ROCKS2 days ago
+10
Still, good on em. I switched to mint last year and it's been great. If the goal is pulling the taproots of the american tech industry out of their government, it's the best option. Microsoft has gotten outwardly insidious over the years.
The differences are aesthetically minimal, I've had friends hop on my PC without even realizing it wasn't running a microsoft OS at first, and most work PCs are gonna be so locked down that the technical differences wouldn't matter much imo.
I swear microsoft pays social engineering companies to hop into threads like this whining about linux being complicated just to intimidate people who are on the fence.
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HappysavageMk22 days ago
+37
Is it any worse than teaching an 18 y/o who's used nothing but tablets, chromebooks, or macs?
Kids are going through school using everything but a PC and then get into an office job and have no idea how to troubleshoot or use windows.
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neptox_q2 days ago
+16
I work in schools (age 13-17) and the kids in my district have grown up with modern windows, and its astounding to me how hard they all find it to navigate through basic menus despite having used windows computers all their life. (They all have personal computers supplied by the state for school work)
I honestly blame most of it on Microsoft. In a quest of making everything accessible, they've somehow created a bloated mess that's very annoying and unintuitive for users to navigate.
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Toutatous2 days ago
+12
As a teacher, kids are even worse than my generation (I could be their dad). They grew up around technologies, "used" them for fun, but never learned how to use them for work.
They will all say that they know how to use Google Docs, but they just know how to open it. Many don't even know how center a title, so forget about interline spacing and page numbers. They can just type...
They know how to change the background and the mouse pointer, but they don't know how to create folders and organize their documents (copy, move and delete files). Most of their documents are "untitled".
They have no idea of what is even possible.
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neptox_q2 days ago
+11
> they don't know how to create folders and organize their documents (copy, move and delete files). Most of their documents are "untitled".
I use this example as well all the time. I am lucky enough to spend a lot of time with the kids as their form teacher. I try to set aside time almost every week to have crash courses in basic stuff like creating folders, and saving documents exactly where you want them to go etc. I swear that the older versions of Windows were more user friendly for beginners, but maybe that's just me. Hard to say.
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AstralElement2 days ago
+25
Come, on. The 60 year old french person is already retired
/s
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PersimmonWorried21552 days ago
+83
Linux GUIs can be very similar to windows.
Click icon. App opens.
Hell, most windows users barely know how to save a file in windows.
All the kids in my kids classrooms use Chrome Books now.
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xalibr2 days ago
+20
Yes, if they can start the browser it is the same everywhere. Just make all apps a website, most are already one anyway (electron, ...).
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buckX2 days ago
+6
Switching to Microsoft 365 to own Microsoft.
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cantproveidid2 days ago
+8
"Hell, most windows users barely know how to save a file in windows. "
And have no idea where they saved it.
8
Hovercraft11432 days ago
+4
In fairness half the time it seems to try to throw itself into OneDrive for no apparent reason despite uninstalling the program a dozen times.
4
Jarcode2 days ago
+12
It's primarily KDE that has the most "familiarity" for Windows users, and it has made some incredible progress in recent years. There's a good chance this is what governments are going to opt for, which is great news given that tends to result in even more contributions.
12
Jacc32 days ago
+8
Cinnamon is very close in look and feel as well imo
8
Quicksand48002 days ago
+21
It shouldn't be that difficult IMO. Those people are not tech savvy anyways, so the IT side of Linux would be covered by IT. They will probably also release an OS tailored to what they need.
The difficult part would be to switch from Microsoft office to Libreoffice or OnlyOffice in my opinion.
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universe20002 days ago
+7
Yeah, for the average user this is an issue of UX and not knowing how to print or fax a document from the new menus that their software will use.
This is a bigger issue for IT support who will have 10% of users taking up 90% of their time as custom configurations require updates, and updates to back-end infrastructure.
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aredubya2 days ago
+9
Many/most applications used nowadays are web-based. So long as your web browser works nearly identically, it's a wash.
9
Aelig_2 days ago
+38
Most of them only use a browser and an email client. There really isn't anything to learn.
And at least when they look for a file on their machine, it won't open a f****** browser or throw AI at it.
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Wanna_make_cash2 days ago
+6
Not to mention remaking any proprietary software and record keeping
6
Maleficent_Owl_70012 days ago
+102
Linux has great GUIs. No one is typing in Unix commands.
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chiku002 days ago
+32
Bureaucrats on their first day (whispering triumphantly):
*"Je suis dans!"*
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SpaceJackRabbit2 days ago
+22
*dedans
And yes, I got the reference.
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liguinii2 days ago
+8
Dans quoi??? Poor bureaucrat... we'll never know.
8
raincole2 days ago
+12
No one is talking about Unix commands.
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ahorrribledrummer2 days ago
+17
It's true but it's still different from Windows, and older folks will not do well with that change.
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Particular_Wear_69602 days ago
+4
Yep and the programs themselves are pretty much exactly the same. If you can use Firefox on Windows, you can use Firefox on Linux. People aren't that stupid anyways, I get there's going to be a few that are slow to pick it up but it's a growing pain that surely won't take long to get over
4
seedless02 days ago
+3
Overwhelmingly majority of the government/enterprise users don't even need to know what OS is underneath the applications they use.
The 60 year old office worker only cares about how to get to the applications they need.
It only matters to the IT people.
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HomeForge2 days ago
+16
Im pretty sure most bureocrats dont even know how to use whatever theyve been using for the last 20 years. This wont change much.
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CobaltFermi2 days ago
+803
While the current political climate may have led to this decision, using Linux is better overall as a more stable and secure operating system. While there is a learning curve for everyone, it can be made easier by using user-friendly UIs.
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brownkemosabe2 days ago
+129
PopOS and other Ubuntu spin offs are super easy! I miss it sometimes and all its customizations since I moved to Mac at the office, but it's not hard at all plus there's super helpful communities on listnook!
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Chapi_Chan2 days ago
+42
Ubuntu community is super helpful and friendly, no matter how stupid-dumb or stupidly technical your questions are.
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ElysiX2 days ago
+21
No way that random small fish bureaucrats would be allowed to do stuff to their computers that random friendly communities online tell them.
One shell command later and they delete the agencies file systems
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AniNgAnnoys2 days ago
+6
Also, Ubuntu is also maintained by Canonical which is a UK company. If the goal here is to become self reliant or EU reliant, I don't think France will pick a UK based platform.
In terms of existing enterprise grade releases, Suse is maintained by a German company.
There other option would be to build their own distro. I would probably go with Arch or Debian. Ubuntu is Debian based so if they wanted Ubuntu like feel, Debian is likely where they would start.
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matco53762 days ago
+8
This is a lie lol most people are happy to tell you off for not reading the entire documentation and wiki for the distro you chose and asking questions while troubleshooting instead of that lol
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AniNgAnnoys2 days ago
+18
An major org isn't going to use PopOS. They would be smart to build their own distro based on Arch or something. Config isn't going to be done by users and users are going to be locked down so it doesn't matter how intuitive the core system is. That will be the realm of IT. After that it is just a matter of picking a desktop environment. They can give Gnome to the MAC people and KDE to the windows people.
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brownkemosabe2 days ago
+7
Ok, sir.
I never dove that deep but.... To borrow a football phrase, Trust the process!
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Farigiss2 days ago
+8
Why would they start from Arch? They have no need for anything cutting-edge.
They'll go with something stable instead that already has the tools to manage whole fleets of computers.
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toromio2 days ago
+24
I’d do department wide classes for a week. I know it wouldn’t work and would be a huge waste of time for most, but a side by side comparison of “You always did it this way, now we will do it this other way” goes a long way with non tech folks
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EditRemove2 days ago
+12
With the savings of not buying MS they could keep classes running all year long.
I'd be more worried about MS attacking in other ways through lobbying.
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BioshockEnthusiast2 days ago
+10
>would be a huge waste of time for most
Just need a handful of people from each department / team to get it, then they can help the others instead of every request going straight to the help desk. If you can hit that critical mass, training was successful.
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pnutbuttered2 days ago
+31
Is it really more secure though?
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TooManyPenalties2 days ago
+59
I would say so, Linux handles permissions way differently than Windows does. Since its open source 0 day exploits get patched quickly.
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wevanscfi2 days ago
+23
Immensely.
Notable Multi-Decade Vulnerabilities
Agere Modem Driver (CVE-2025-24990): Disclosed in October 2025, this vulnerability exists in a legacy driver shipped by default in every version of Windows ever released, up to and including Windows 11 and Windows Server 2025. It allows local attackers to elevate their privileges to administrator, even if the system does not have the associated hardware.
Win32k.sys Elevation of Privilege: Bugs in the win32k.sys kernel driver, responsible for graphical window management, have remained undiscovered for over 23 years. In 2019, zero-days were found that had been exploitable since the early 2000s, leveraging use-after-free flaws to access system memory.
Common Log File System (CLFS): This driver has become a "gift that keeps on giving" for researchers, with a high volume of zero-day vulnerabilities discovered between 2021 and 2025. These flaws often survive multiple version updates due to the driver's deep integration into the kernel.
Print Spooler ("PrintNightmare"): While the specific CVE-2021-34527 was recent, the underlying architectural flaws in the Windows Print Spooler have existed since Windows 2000, leading to a long history of privilege escalation and remote code execution bugs.
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AdventurousFox252 days ago
+198
Never thought this day would come. and all it takes is Trump of all people to switch from Windows to Linux 🤣
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Horskr2 days ago
+53
It is kind of hilarious that all the big tech CEOs lined up to kiss the ring and we're barely 1/4 through the term and they're all losing business hand over fist already. Genius move guys.
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JudiciousSasquatch2 days ago
+9
I would say the ring kissers, specifically, are profiting handsomely.
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purplegreendave2 days ago
+23
*The ~~year~~ administration of the Linux Desktop*
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Kelnozz2 days ago
+192
I recently downloaded Linux Mint XFCE on a old dead notebook and it literally brought it back to life; like I tried a fresh install of windows already but everything was just so slow, with Mint everything is quick and responsive!
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Opposite_Cancel_84042 days ago
+26
Same experience. I switched last year and originally thought I needed a new computer cause everything was slowing down so much and there were SO MANY random bugs that would happen constantly. Switched to mint and it actually runs like its brand new, I was not expecting that.
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Zaorish92 days ago
+11
Mint is great. I'm quite happy with this news that Linux is getting the attention it deserves.
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disdain72 days ago
+25
I just suggested that in another comment. I’ve got an old laptop with a busted screen that was collecting dust. Giving XFCE a shot was a good move!
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Tight_Indication7752 days ago
+5
I have installed Tiny Core linux on my 26 year old pentium III system for fun and its surprisingly usable
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Sopht_Serve2 days ago
+4
Hmm maybe I'll do this to my currently 8 ish year old laptop. See if I can give it a bit more life
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atetoomanypens2 days ago
+721
Americans by voting for trump have collapsed their own empire
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findingmike2 days ago
+300
The tech billionaires must be having buyer's remorse at this point. He's destroyed so many export markets for the US and tech is a big chunk of US moneymaking.
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Wanna_make_cash2 days ago
+312
There's no remorse yet, they're still making untold fortunes in the short term..remorse is a long term issue that future shareholders have to worry about, today is the era of profit
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NobodyLikedThat12 days ago
+59
Quarterly earnings are still up!
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Recent-Singer81462 days ago
+23
That’s all that matters to the finance or billionaire class: as long as specific share/stock prices increase every quarter this aligns with short term gains…no need or reason to consider the employees, the common good, community, or a few years in the future, profit will be extracted to enrich themselves.
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[deleted]2 days ago
+126
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old_leech2 days ago
+28
I'm an old school Linux guy... began tinkering with Slackware and Debian in the early 90s, went full in (even running YellowDog on PPC for a spell). I've experienced just about every ounce of pain and frustration someone can have with the platform.
There has never been a better time for mass adoption than now. There are so many solid distros that cater to the gambit of end user expectations -- and so many options to choose for predictable and sane deployment/management.
Have puppet, will travel. Declare the state and deploy you French mad lads.
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RaindropBebop2 days ago
+7
There will be a major turning point for home use once steamOS has a public release and the friction around gaming on Linux largely evaporates.
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DrSFalken2 days ago
+325
Everyone should ditch Windows for Linux anyway.
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JayBaited2 days ago
+125
Windows 11 was telling me to upgrade my pc to continue using windows. I found it easier to change my OS. Hope that ai slop was worth it for them.
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free_npc2 days ago
+4
IT pushed a windows 11 update last year and I did as I was told. A year later I’m getting the same popup saying I should have done this already. It won’t update because it’s already updated but IT has me flagged as not updated. I put in a ticket and a guy said he found the issue and then ghosted me.
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Cloudeur2 days ago
+48
Switched my gaming PC to bazzite. Enjoying it so far!
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Depart_Into_Eternity2 days ago
+36
Had a terrible time.
Power management being a huge one.
Also some of my games absolutely didn't work at all and I'm just trying to use my computer, not mess with it constantly. I already have to mess with computers/servers all the time for work.
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0neM0reLight2 days ago
+44
This 100%. Linux users make it seem like it's the best with no hassle. In reality it's troubleshooting more than you think you would need to.
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Excellent-Nose-64302 days ago
+8
> Linux users make it seem like it's the best with no hassle
If you listen to the people touting Linux here saying it's so easy, you'll see them mention "I switched to {distro} 6 months ago and it's been great" and nobody using it for lengths at a time. I've been running my daily driver on arch for 8 years and it can be a huge pain in the ass to maintain at times. But sure, if someone is reinstalling their OS once a year, of course everything is easy lmao. Windows is easy too if you reinstall it every year, and would probably fix a lot of the complains the distro-hoppers were talking about in the first place.
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techie9982 days ago
+17
Most things people do on PCs nowadays are browser-based anyway - so the App advantage is much less of a problem nowadays. Valve/Steam has done wonders to break the last reason most people needed Windows.
But I STILL would not recommend it to non-tech-savvy people today. In the last year, I still need to break out the shell and Google for resolutions because the audio stopped working or the screen resolution reset to 800x600. Solutions for this "last mile" problem only comes with a much larger market share - and is the chiken/egg problem that plagues the Linux desktop since forever.
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slog2 days ago
+6
I legitimately think AI will help bring Linux to the masses. I've always been a mixed OS user, but I can deal with Linux so much better with AI helping when it was previously a headache.
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pvt_miller2 days ago
+7
You clearly don’t know enough tech-illiterates. There are so many dude.
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Harry_The-Bastard2 days ago
+29
Windows 11 about to be renamed to Windows Freedom Fries
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godpzagod2 days ago
+41
Good for them. But as someone in IT, this would both make me think
2 things: "Job security!" and "there is no way in HELL this is going to work." People of all ages already can't navigate simple shit on Windows and Apple users are even more helpless. I wouldn't be surprised if the rank and file are on Linux, but they give the oldest, most tenured employees their old working environment back. I mean, Europe seems to give a shit about their employees :D
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midgaze2 days ago
+17
Linux on the desktop is fine for laypeople. Windows is perplexing until you learn to work around its idiocycracies, and any OS is the same.
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teddyone2 days ago
+68
This is gonna be a pain in the ass of epic proportions. I’ll be super impressed if they get this done.
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Shooter_McGavin_6662 days ago
+12
The article oversimplifies what they’re doing and doesn’t provide any details. They’re never be able to all out “switch to Linux”. This author and many Listnookors don’t understand business environments.
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corruptedpatata2 days ago
+25
90% of workers cant even use windows - all the do is open web browser and they have no idea about operating system.
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CatastrophicCapybara2 days ago
+42
So you're saying 90% won't be affected the change.
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SLR107FR-312 days ago
+12
I support everyone doing this. Microsoft sucks
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Apprehensive_Map642 days ago
+7
I support the ideal but the reality is going to be a nightmare. As if the government is going to hire enough competent programmers to transition smoothly.
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UpstairsConnection572 days ago
+20
Ironically a large amount of the Linux developer base is in the US.
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No-Fan-22372 days ago
+19
Some of us actually care about such concepts such as *ahem* freedom. You know, the thing America is supposed to be built on.
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pm_me_yo_creditscore2 days ago
+71
* **Munich, Germany (The "LiMux" Project):** Perhaps the most famous case. After 13 years of running a custom Ubuntu-based system, the city voted in 2017 to return to Windows 10, citing compatibility issues and user dissatisfaction.
* **Vienna, Austria (Wienux):** Vienna launched "Wienux" in 2005. By 2009, the project was largely abandoned in favor of Windows because the migration was too difficult for non-technical staff and lacked essential specialized software.
* **Lower Saxony, Germany:** The state’s tax office moved 13,000 workstations to Linux but decided in 2018 to return to Windows to align with federal standards and simplify IT management.
* **Solothurn, Switzerland:** This Swiss canton moved to Linux in 2001 but reverted in 2010. They found the cost of maintaining a unique "special path" was higher than simply paying for Microsoft licenses.
* **Extremadura, Spain (gnuLinEx):** An early leader in open source, the region began phasing out its custom Linux distro around 2011 after finding it difficult to maintain technical support and integrate with national government systems.
* **Pesaro, Italy:** The city moved to OpenOffice and Linux to save on costs but eventually returned to the Microsoft ecosystem, claiming that the "hidden costs" of troubleshooting and document conversion were too high.
* **Valencia, Spain (LliureX):** While schools in Valencia still use Linux, many administrative departments that initially moved to the open-source platform reverted to Windows for better compatibility with regional and national databases.
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Jarcode2 days ago
+19
As someone with both a history in FOSS and some insight into government office culture, one of the biggest strangleholds MS has is their office suite. LibreOffice is, unfortunately, nowhere near Microsoft Office and true format compatibility has been seemingly impossible for complex documents.
Governments also have to stop trying to maintain their own custom distro forks. There are enterprise distributions with support contracts that are a more suitable replacement for Microsoft products.
Mixed Windows and Linux environments also pose a unique set of challenges. AD domain integration between the two is possible, though. It's better to just pick one or the other.
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TachiH2 days ago
+20
These were all in an attempt to save money, open source will always cost more as the technical staff cost more.
The current plans are due to countries trying to move their vital services away from the US. Countries will be willing to spend more for something like this as it is more like defence spending.
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brekus2 days ago
+7
Those are all examples of individual city's or regions trying to switch to Linux and running into compatability issues with the national systems. Not going to be a problem if the national system itself is switching.
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TheMoves2 days ago
+24
Says a ton that the main reason for most of the reversions was the entrenchment of the Windows ecosystem and not for any technical advantage. At this point Windows is only worth something because they make it a huge pain to transition off with proprietary formats etc. Basically just holding everyone hostage instead of just being the more compelling option. I feel like if you remove the entrenchment nobody would choose it, partially for that exact reason
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Gyokuro0912 days ago
+9
It’ll probably be a mess ngl, but I do hope it catches on. I hate Windows and would love Linux to become main stream enough that everything I use runs natively on it.
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firdnord2 days ago
+13
Imagine being the IT guy at the Ministry of Finance having to explain to a 60-year-old politician that they can't find Excel because it’s now called 'LibreOffice Calc'
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dragonbourneZ2 days ago
+17
There’s so many people in here claiming “it’ll be just as easy for them as Windows”
I work in IT and the amount of calls I received for just adding a “ctl+alt+del” prompt on boot (when it literally tells you what to do) was insane. People are too comfortable in their routines and that includes work computers.
It will be a literal nightmare for the helpsesk people managing this.
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jeetah2 days ago
+14
That is going to be a help desk nightmare.
We tried this experiment in my company several times, for user endpoints, it never lasts. Servers? Sure.
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PooPooPointBoiz2 days ago
+3
Hahaha....news comes out right after I go balls deep in MSFT stock.
Boy can I pick them...
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guptaxpn2 days ago
+5
The reason this will work, and work rather well, is that 99+% of all office work is just office + browser. That's it. It's probably even more than that in the browser now. We use Chromebooks at my work and frankly it doesn't need to hinder my work. Any modern linux can run Firefox and Libreoffice. That's most people's tasks. They'll keep running windows as needed for certain binary desktop apps. Like the Gendarmarie is likely using windows in their forensics labs to run stuff, but the files don't need to be sent around the building on windows machines, if there can be a web portal for viewing lab results, you don't need desktop software. Modern desktop development is all in the browser. Most of the apps we use everyday are really just electron apps which is a chrome browser that only opens the one application (along with some runtime stuff for storage and OS interfacing).
The windows start menu is a browser or react native app lol.
It's javascript all the way down. Linux is fine and good.
The reason windows has held on is the turnkey deployment for administration, but now that governments are not so trusting in microsoft, they want control over their own central resources. Exchange is awful, it's an awful bit of software, and it's excellent to be an admin for. You can farm out the admin work to managed microsoft people.
Linux requires more homework to administrate large fleets.
It's a *lot* of freedom, and they just needed a *little* nudge to be pushed to upgrade the state IT infrastructure. This will work, microsoft will take a huge hit.
Microsoft hasn't been anything too special now for 10-20 years, nobody noticed though, it's just been a monopoly. One day it will crumble from the everyday user's interface like IBM did. Microsoft survives solely because "nobody ever got fired for choosing Microsoft". (It used to be IBM's phrase)
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IntelArtiGen2 days ago
+13
I just wish we could do that entirely in Europe and all collaborate to develop our own solutions. There are too many redundancies in Europe, each country develops its own solution for itself, they should cooperate more.
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lVlzone2 days ago
+6
I’ll take things that will never happen for $100.
The government employees using computers will not have the slightest clue how to use Linux and I imagine there will be a million compatibility issues with their apps and programs.
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kaner632 days ago
+44
Germany tried this back in the 2000s and abandoned it because of compatibility and productivity issues. Open source software like Libre Office are second rate garbage no matter what Linux zealots say.
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