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News & Current Events May 9, 2026 at 8:21 AM

Frontier Airlines jet bound for LAX hits person on runway in Denver, aviation source tells ABC News

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Frontier Airlines jet bound for LAX hits, kills person on runway during takeoff in Denver
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Frontier Airlines jet bound for LAX hits, kills person on runway during takeoff in Denver
A Frontier Airlines flight headed to Los Angeles struck and killed a person who reportedly scaled a fence and ran onto a runway during takeoff Friday night in Denver.

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Snoopy101x 2 days ago +2479
"The person was at least partially consumed by one of the engines..."
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Bender_2024 2 days ago +175
I have to agree. You'd have to be pretty wasted to not try and avoid the 20 ton behemoth screaming at 100 decibel coming right at you.
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klowny 2 days ago +172
I think people also don't realize how far the death suction zone extends in front of the airplane when it's about to take-off. It's like 50ft in front and 20ft to the sides.
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StackLeeAdams 1 day ago +45
Jesus, that's some terrifying math
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mothandravenstudio 1 day ago +25
There are occasional employees that never learn that equation, believe it or not.
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CosmoKramersPimpCoat 1 day ago +31
I was a server in an airport for ten years. we had to take courses every couple of years and we learn about this every time. Crazy how people working outside near planes wouldn't be aware of it.
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the_Q_spice 1 day ago +14
As a ramp worker, yeah. Not ingestion, but a few months ago, a neighboring ramp for my airline had someone enter the exhaust blast before the engines were turned off. Picked up and threw a 200lb person over 100ft like a rag doll.
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Fallouttgrrl 1 day ago +11
Growing up with my family numbed me to that
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MrTwoPumpChump 1 day ago +40
Numbed you to being consumed by jet engines???
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ssoloslide 2 days ago +8
More like 100+ tons.
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Obi-Tron_Kenobi 2 days ago +9
And like 140 decibels
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elPatronSuarez 2 days ago +133
Let me introduce you to an old friend.... *Train enters room*
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Curri 2 days ago +33
So I work for EMS and we have a certain patient that has been trying this twice and is still alive to this day.
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thelangosta 2 days ago +32
My daughter’s first experience as a patient care tech in an ICU was a guy who “accidentally” got hit by a train. Imagine jumping in front of a train to end it all and living through the myriad injuries.
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Osiris32 2 days ago +27
I was in the ER a few years ago with my own ailment when a guy got brought in by ambulance because he had gotten drunk, passed out on the train tracks, got run over, and had had both his hands cut off. It was very gnarly.
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JstTrstMe 2 days ago +13
Apex predator.
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Hayabusa_Blacksmith 2 days ago +30
I can stand here though, right?
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AcousticOnomatopoeia 2 days ago +33
r/bitchimatrain
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b_fellow 2 days ago +14
Have you ever tried suplexing a train?
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stellvia2016 2 days ago +11
*Sabin nods approvingly*
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Popular_Try_5075 1 day ago +5
Mental Illness is a hell of a drug.
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The-Ant-Whisperer 2 days ago +16
I know it’s the wrong airport, but it was mentioned, so I’m going with the airport LAX the proper security measures.
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acromaine 2 days ago +39
You can’t DENy that the security at the airport was extremely LAX.
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DrSpaceman575 2 days ago +223
Boy I hope I never end up in the news saying I got “consumed” by something
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WhatamItodonowhuh 2 days ago +53
You'll never make it an o*** then.
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What-a-Crock 2 days ago +15
O*** with Arnie Hammer
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AnticitizenPrime 1 day ago +8
Consumed with a desire to help the downtrodden and poor!
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Fallouttgrrl 1 day ago +8
Right? God forbid a girl have hobbies
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viewfromupherefwiw 2 days ago +68
“All those onboard the plane are being evacuated, which is standard procedure following an evacuation.” That’s some top notch reporting right there.
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-SaC 2 days ago +17
"Everyone out, and don't look just over your shoulders at the remains of the I SAID DON'T LOOK JUST OVER YOUR SHOULDERS"
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viewfromupherefwiw 1 day ago +5
I know I would have a hard time not looking over my shoulders
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Peripatetictyl 2 days ago +298
‘Consumed’ was… a word choice. ‘Tis no engine, ‘Tis a relentless eating machine!
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incidental_findings 2 days ago +194
I think the usual terminology is “ingested” (seriously).
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Mand125 2 days ago +27
You are correct.
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schumachiavelli 2 days ago +73
Do these sound like the actions of an engine who had "all it could eat"?
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triaxis7 2 days ago +21
More like turned into a fine mist
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fevered_visions 2 days ago +18
the remains when this happens to wildlife is called "snarge"
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Atralis 2 days ago +20
In Philadelphia they call it scrapple.
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synapticrelease 2 days ago +10
A _remorseless_ eating machine
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ItsTricky94 2 days ago +17
"causing a brief engine fire" nothing like the smell of burning human flesh
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Acheron98 2 days ago +63
I’d hate to be the dude with the hose…
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bros402 2 days ago +14
Once an engine's tasted blood...you need to put it down
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Spacepickle89 2 days ago +26
That doesn’t sound great
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Rex_Mundi 2 days ago +28
He will be mist.
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prcodes 1 day ago +5
He was a fine lad
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SpaceForceAwakens 1 day ago +3
Let’s spray for him.
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eeyore134 2 days ago +14
"Plane hits person." kind of undersells this bit...
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AccomplishedIgit 2 days ago +7
Oh I Was going to ask if they were ok..
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Cockblocktimus_Pryme 2 days ago +4
At least...
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bulking_on_broccoli 2 days ago +30
“To shreds you say?”
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usernamewasdenied 2 days ago +6
Well, how's his wife holding up?
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bulking_on_broccoli 2 days ago +8
“To shreds you say?”
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Eye_Dont_Git_It 2 days ago +577
Poor people that had to see that. It happened not too long ago in San Antonio. Guy just jumped in front of the engine and everyone watched.
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Floomby 2 days ago +154
Then a one who didnt see it happen got to see an eyeful as they exited the plane.
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thisshortenough 1 day ago +78
Just saw footage of it on tiktok, people were going up to the engine after evacuating and taking selfies with it, someone’s kid was right up there examining it too
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madame_of_darkness 1 day ago +71
That's psychopathic...
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ashcat300 1 day ago +55
The attention economy has really ruined people
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AdCreepy5165 1 day ago +14
"Attention economy", great a new way to feel broke.
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Win_Sys 2 days ago +39
Jackson Pollock-esc I would assume. Must have been like a gender reveal party for the people behind the engine.
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etherpromo 2 days ago +27
Why’s this confetti wet
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AFlockofLizards 1 day ago +6
*Blender reveal party* 😭😭😭
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Cornloaf 2 days ago +37
Happened with a United flight in Albuquerque too. It was a mechanic and there are several pics of the engine and the ground behind it. It seriously looked like they attempted to make sausage in a meat grinder. The entirety of the engine was covered in fat and meat.
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Eye_Dont_Git_It 1 day ago +5
Accident or intentional? The one in San Antonio was intentional. The guy jumped into it
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Cornloaf 1 day ago +10
Albuquerque was accidental. Maintenance worker. Looks like there was another maintenance worker sucked in an engine in El Paso too. There was also the guy in Salt Lake City who went through the emergency door at the airport and climbed into the engine of a plane and got killed on Jan 1, 2024. Parents blamed the airport and sued. Edit: Ugh, so it seems the pics I remember were the El Paso incident. They observed fluid under the engine and this was the outcome. WARNING: NSFW/NSFL https://groups.google.com/g/kdsara6/c/sa9q8imynWs/m/o-4FZJXfDmYJ WARNING: NSFW/NSFL
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bojackmac 17 hr ago +5
Seriously I know what I was going to see and I still clicked the link why do I do this to myself
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Eye_Dont_Git_It 1 day ago +3
Geez. That's crazy man.
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AutumnSparky 17 hr ago +3
okay it's actually not that bad because there's ....nothing left.  there's one picture of what might be a cell phone, stuck to the wall of it, but I might be wrong.   not a shred of clothing, not an indicator of... anything it was.
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BoleroMuyPicante 2 days ago +17
Yeah not a good time to be sitting behind the wings, you look out the window and it's just pink mist.
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Rattus_NorvegicUwUs 2 days ago +772
Pardon me? How does that happen?
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BurninCrab 2 days ago +734
Because suicide
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Floomby 2 days ago +114
Or on a whole lot of something.
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postonrddt 2 days ago +24
Suicide by jet engine. No high bridges, railroad crossings or drug dealers in Denver?
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sprinklerarms 2 days ago +3
Plane might have been more convenient for them.
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seejur 2 days ago +158
What a stupid way to suicide. It could have been very bad for the passenger in the airplane too, especially since it was a takeoff and the airplane is full of jet fuel. If you want to go, don't involve others in your plans
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Excellent_Speech_901 1 day ago +20
Twelve passengers injured, including five hospitalized. Evacuation is not entirely safe.
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Hinermad 2 days ago +124
I don't think we can expect rational thought, let alone compassion, from someone intent on running themself through a Veg-a-matic.
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meldroc 2 days ago +28
It very well could have been uglier. As it is, the engine caught fire afterwards, filled the cabin with smoke (Soylent smoke?), and the plane had to be evacuated via the slides on the runway.
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Colonelarmbar 1 day ago +11
Thank you for saying this. I've been shouted down in so many other forums for saying that people who choose to end their suffering at the expense and risk of others are still @$$holes. I understand the hurt might cloud ones judgement, but making your end someone elses problem is straight diabolical. My best friend's Dad was a 20 year railroad man who experienced this SIX times. It ruined him. Because of the depressed selfishness of others his life was never the same. We'd go on camping trips and I'd hear him scream when a flashback or nightmare woke him up.
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reddit_ending_soon 2 days ago +53
> What a stupid way to suicide. It could have been very bad for the passenger in the airplane too My guy, you think a person, that is at a suicide level mindset, has the critical ability to think clearly for said consequences of attempting/ successfully completing the suicide?
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Herr_Jott 1 day ago +3
He can't read that anymore.
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TwoSecondsToMidnight 2 days ago +57
Sadly, it’s happened before: https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/man-hit-by-airplane-killed-on-abia-runway-identified-by-police/amp/
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Lirael_Gold 1 day ago +10
It happens often enough that there's a specific code for reporting an engine ingestion. And a specific procedure for the cabin crew to direct the evacuation down the other side of the plane (in this case a bunch of passengers took their phones out, walked round the plane and filmed the gore spattered engine, I guess crew didn't notice or were too busy to stop them) (most of the time it's just ramp crews getting complacent, so I guess the suicides are unusual enough to be reported on) It's even worse in the military, I've seen some reports of guys surviving because their tools/headgear fouled the engine, and the pilot shut it down instantly without knowing the cause, saving them.
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gummi-demilo 1 day ago +5
There’s a video of this from a Navy carrier in the early 90s of a guy getting sucked into an engine who amazingly survived because his cranial jammed it just enough to keep him from being shredded. Shipboard TV played it constantly on my carrier as part of a PSA about PPE.
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Admirable-Apricot137 2 days ago +186
Person gets through airport fence (or is already there working) and walks onto runway. Same as how people get hit by trains. It's almost always intentional.
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Several-Squash9871 1 day ago +7
People don't realize how easy it actually is to get onto airport runways and whatnot. There's a airforce base in the town I live and some dude was drunk, riding a 4wheeler and somehow made it onto the base and went for a little joyride. Even crazier is that he wasn't even caught the same night he did it despite base security and help from local PD.
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Conan-Da-Barbarian 2 days ago +289
If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a plane. He couldn’t dodge a wrench.
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ShadowNick 2 days ago +50
Gotta learn the 5 d's. Dodge, duck, dip, dive and dodge!
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SSSprings0808 2 days ago +18
Thanks, Patches !
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Peripatetictyl 2 days ago +274
First of all, through god, all things are possible, so jot that down.
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MegaDaveX 2 days ago +13
Try and move me, bro
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Benzol1987 2 days ago +14
I only trust pilots that have their chin up. 
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meldroc 2 days ago +16
He apparently hopped a perimeter fence before wandering onto the runway. DIA is a huge airport, keeping the perimeter secure isn't trivial.
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fivetoedslothbear 2 days ago +7
You know how people will find a gap in a fence and decide that they can take a shortcut and cross the railroad tracks at a place that is not a valid crossing? And you know how people sometimes get injured by a train when they do that? Believe it or not there are people who think that they can take a shortcut through an airport on foot… Somehow they get through the security fencing and just walk a straight line to where they were planning on going.
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Snipers_end 2 days ago +94
One thing I haven’t seen mentioned in the comments: this apparently happened around 11PM, so that would have made it harder for security/the pilots to see this guy
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MountainFriend7473 1 day ago +18
Exactly for everyone saying how you not seee, I just came in on a 9:20pm arrival flight  earlier this week and it’s fairly dark aside from some of the lighting on the edges of the runway. 
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Pumpkins_Are_Fruits 23 hr ago +3
People think it’s lit up like a roadway…it’s not. It’s lit up with edge lights, threshold lights, signs, etc. no overhead lights
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XT-356 2 days ago +274
I have so many questions and I don't even know where to begin.
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Different-Produce870 2 days ago +189
So far, article says the person did not work for construction that was on a different runway, that's all we know. They have also been looking for gaps in the fence around the airport. So I think the investigation is assuming this person doesn't work at the airport.
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Benjazen 2 days ago +39
Well, that’s all we’re told so far. But a fair assumption just the same. There may be an ID problem since the victim was partially consumed- especially if that means hands and head (no prints or dentals).
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32FlavorsofCrazy 1 day ago +13
It may take a while to ID them but it’s pretty rare that they’re unable to. If they were an indigent vagrant with no family or friends to take notice they’re missing and no ID though, it’s possible they won’t be able to. Even for prints and dental records you have to have something to compare them to, same with DNA.
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rhuiz92 2 days ago +214
Suicide and *far* too many people not paying attention to either security, their coworker, or both. I've worked in the airline industry for the last decade and so many people decide to use planes to go out.
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yelsamarani 2 days ago +18
you saw a lot of people use planes to go out?
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rhuiz92 2 days ago +23
At least 2 coworkers that I knew personally, one in Dallas who dove in headfirst, and the recently internet famous Sky King in Seattle. I had met them while working TDY
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Never_Forget_94 2 days ago +10
What was the Seattle guy like?
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guntycankles 2 days ago +13
He sure sounded like a decent dude. A giant-balled, silly goose. "Think this thing can do a barrel roll?" Absolute legend. Also, sad.
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dude_stfu 2 days ago +76
Probably because it leaves about zero doubt that you'll successfully end things. Overdose, gun shots, bridge jumpers... sometimes life still finds a way. "Consumed by jet engine"? You ended it.
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Aldarionn 2 days ago +21
So I am not suicidal, but if I had to choose a method for my accidental demise, this is a lot better than most lol. Aside from the collateral damage and scarring everyone in line of sight for life.....I imagine it doesn't leave much time for fear, pain or regret once it starts happening. For the deceased, at least, there are way worse ways to go.
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Pristine_Club_3128 2 days ago +17
And you get to end up on the news, not only on the day, but multiple times when people bring up instances of people 'consumed' by planes
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tastyroastpork 2 days ago +32
I don't know. Maybe try building a one person carbon fiber submarine and seeing how close you can get to the Titanic. Seems instant and no bystanders. Plus you picked up some new skills along the way!
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Iveray 2 days ago +21
The implosion itself would be basically instant, so fast that your nerves wouldn't be able to transmit pain signals to your brain before it's gone, but you'd hear the hull creaking from the increasing pressure for quite a while beforehand.
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BKong64 2 days ago +8
Yeah I'll pass, plane engine sounds better tbh lol 
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mothtoalamp 1 day ago +5
There's actually some positives to this. A lot of people who attempt suicide and fail say they regret it as soon as they start. If you hear those creaks and don't like the view from halfway down, you bail out and head back up.
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Clone95 2 days ago +3
Very similar to trains but way higher frequency of takeoffs than train transits
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waylandsmith 2 days ago +4
Yes, but there are 130k miles of railway in the US, most of which is trivially accessible with almost no risk of being intercepted, vs airports where are supposed to be among the most secure places these days.
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Clone95 2 days ago +5
Airport aprons aren’t particularly secure, it’s the terminal and aircraft themselves that are to prevent seizure of the plane. They’re more or less inaccessible on the ground. There’s simply too much square footage to cover against psychos trying to run onto the runway with a deathwish.
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GreatCanadianPotato 2 days ago +137
High likelihood this was a suicide...but I still have no sympathy for whoever walked on the runway and decided to end it this way. Pilots & ATC probably scared for life, 200+ passengers had to disembark and see this persons dead body...all for what?
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ADexasSizedTick 2 days ago +111
not just that, but causing an engine failure during that point of takeoff could’ve easily been passed their abort limit and caused a significant accident killing all of them
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thephantom1492 1 day ago +9
Aircraft are designed to be able to take off with a single engine, so not much of an issue, as long as the other engine don't fail. Single engine failure on takeoff is relatively common.
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meldroc 1 day ago +6
Yeah, the plane still takes off, but on fire. I'm glad the pilot was on his game and was able to abort.
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ArseTrumpetsGoPoot 2 days ago +449
To the earlier comment (which seems to have disappeared) about the aircraft having 231 souls on board: this isn't just about lingo, it's about aircraft that may be carrying human remains - in the event of an accident, they need a body count of living people. It also makes it immediate clear that crew, passengers, lap children, etc are accounted for.
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rhuiz92 2 days ago +209
Can confirm, worked with both Frontier (which normally does NOT fly remains) and Alaska (which REGULARLY flew remains [the small caskets were just heartbreaking]). The souls count includes Pax, crew (pilots and mechanics), and attendants. It is a count seperate from weight and ballance considerations.
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ParameciaAntic 2 days ago +73
What about spirits bound in amulets and whatnot?
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DeepSeaDynamo 2 days ago +105
No, spirit closed up last week
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Daft00 2 days ago +8
What about physical copies of the popular 2011+ video game series contained onboard inside luggage?
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MarlonBain 2 days ago +4
Well it depends on if they have a soul or not
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fertile_gnome 2 days ago +3
So my ex wife doesn't count when she flies?
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blackfocal 2 days ago +6
Worked as a 911 dispatcher for some time. That was one of the things we had to collect when we had an airplane emergency.
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No-Cantaloupe-6535 2 days ago +25
those poor pilots and whatever ground crew had to watch it
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guntycankles 2 days ago +10
The crews that get to clean it... Yikes
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InspectorAdmirable57 2 days ago +67
Sounds like the engine basically ate the guy, which is both terrifying and a clear sign this person had no business being out there during takeoff. How do you even get past security and wander onto an active runway without anyone noticing?
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a_scientific_force 2 days ago +113
You hop a fence. The airport is 53 square miles. There are 36 miles of fence line. Fences are there to keep honest/mentally stable people out. They're not going to do anything against someone who is determined.
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BoardsofCanada3 2 days ago +9
More than twice the area of Manhattan. I'm more surprised there aren't more incidents.
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Ventex_ 2 days ago +40
I have no information about this incident, but airports are really big. My parents used to take my daughter to watch planes taking off and landing and there was a little parking area with a chain link fence in the middle of nowhere which was relatively close to a runway so people could do just that. If all you wanted to do was to get to the runway I don't imagine it would have been that challenging.
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derpderpnerdkid 2 days ago +17
Most perimeter fences are just chain link with no active surveillance. Wouldn’t be hard to gain entry to property, imo. My biggest question is how did they get all the way to the tarmac without interference?
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notoriously909 2 days ago +30
As an aircraft mechanic, I’d probably pack up my box and leave before they even brought that jet back to the hangar. I don’t even want to imagine the horror it would involve to repair and return that aircraft to service. They may scrap the engine but they won’t scrap the airframe. It will be back in the fleet in a few years
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railker 1 day ago +13
If even that long, but yeah I wonder how this is handled for the guys like us. Bird debris smells bad enough. You'd have to open the fan and core cowls to even get the engine off the pylon. I'm not cleaning that up even for 10x OT pay.
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milolai 1 day ago +3
\> t will be back in the fleet in a few years really that long? i honestly assumed they would unbolt the old engine and pop on a new one - maybe a few weeks at most (i know nothing about planes and/or their engines)
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djtravels 2 days ago +31
Finally get to use that ICD 10 code: **V97.33XA:** Sucked into jet engine, initial encounter
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Rare-Veterinarian659 1 day ago +6
Is there one for a subsequent encounter?
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Atechiman 1 day ago +9
There is also V97.33XS for chronic complications from being sucked into a jet engine.
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Morstraut64 2 days ago +12
Was the engine fire because of the person being "partially consumed?"
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Morstraut64 2 days ago +11
The article seems to make the connection so I guess so. Damn, that's horrible
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32FlavorsofCrazy 1 day ago +10
Yes. Body goes in and becomes parts, some of which are hard and chunky, breaks open fuel lines and rotating metal parts which then strike each other and spark…🔥
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MountainFriend7473 1 day ago +3
There’s a lot that needs to go right in an engine and clearly a human body is not part of that process, thus a fire and damage 
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Old-Suspect4129 2 days ago +198
Seems like some one walked out on to the runway while the jet was taking off.
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nomoruniqueusernames 2 days ago +102
Thank you for deducing this information Sherlock. Have you found any more tells?
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LumberBitch 2 days ago +38
It seems they perished
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Daft00 2 days ago +9
Objection! Speculation!
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Nebraska_Actually 2 days ago +8
To shreds you say
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Cactusfan86 2 days ago +23
I don’t get people who want to commit suicide but then do it in way that traumatizes and or risks killing other people
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Tall_poppee 2 days ago +13
It's almost like someone who is suicidal is not thinking about other people lol. Or thinking clearly at all.
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No_Direction6688 2 days ago +147
Let's blame Sean Duffy for these airline incidents. He's the Transportation Secretary.
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DaileyFlosser39 2 days ago +72
Last Administration, Cons would have been blaming Buttigeig.
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RolloTonyBrownTown 2 days ago +11
Hes been too busy filming a documentary about himself and his family going on a 7 month vacation.
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Macavy 1 day ago +5
I'm assuming this is the same one the photo someone posted earlier today was about? That engine was destroyed and covered in so much blood. Can't imagine being a passenger having to exit the plane and see that.
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OrganizedChaos1979 1 day ago +6
I'd hate to be the mechanics who will have to disassemble that engine.
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a_scientific_force 2 days ago +61
I hate the phrasing of the title. It should be "Person enters runway and steps into path of Frontier Airlines jet". The jet was supposed to be there. The person, not so much.
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Equivalent-Stand1674 2 days ago +34
Their headline is neutral, factual, and verifiable. It concisely describes exactly what happened. It's not about who or what is "supposed" to be where. It objectively describes the situation. A person was objectively hit by a moving plane on a runway and that's it. Your headline places implicit blame on the person. It's not verifiable or factual because they don't know how that person got there or if they were meant to be there or not. It's not unheard of for a plane to be using a runway that's been closed for construction, for example. "Person enters highway and steps into path of bus" (they were using a crosswalk and the bus was slowing down; the person was never hit). This is your headline and the missing information.
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BeemoAdvance 2 days ago +12
We flew out of Denver around 8p last night (night of incident)- the crew had to remove a belligerent passenger who seemed to be having a mental health crisis- I‘m wondering it the victim could have been that person?
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guntycankles 1 day ago +14
That would actually be pretty messed up.
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ZorroMcChucknorris 2 days ago +9
Blucifer made him do it.
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slaty_balls 2 days ago +7
I’ll bet smell of that smoke is something those passengers will never forget.
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blacksystembbq 2 days ago +76
What up with all the plane accidents in the US?
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nocoolN4M3sleft 2 days ago +58
I’m not really sure this should fall as a plane accident. The plane didn’t do anything wrong, nor did the pilots. This is a security failure by the airport. This seems more like suicide by plane.
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stellvia2016 2 days ago +21
I don't even know if you could call it a failure: Denver is *HUGE* and the guy also did it at night. So unless you had nightvision/IR cameras watching miles and miles of perimeter and had security stationed nearby at all hours of operations... All for an event that might only happen once every couple years or a decade for an individual airport.
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a_scientific_force 2 days ago +11
This wasn't a plane accident any more than you jumping in front of a train is a train accident.
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Admirable-Apricot137 2 days ago +25
This wasn't a plane accident. This was likely a suicide.
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LonestarJones 2 days ago +239
Just the Trump regime destroying everything it touches per usual. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly9y1e1kpjo
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Vertigobee 2 days ago +28
Absolutely eff the BBC and their new paywall.
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Vertigobee 2 days ago +9
The hero we need, thank you
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n0t-again 2 days ago +8
archive.ph and never look back
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GeekFurious 2 days ago +40
Figure it's based on a lot of factors, though the accident rates are not as high as they were pre-2010s. Also, we didn't have a lot of flights during the pandemic and people left the field, so it's natural that new crews and staff who are now coming in are making more mistakes.
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tedlyb 2 days ago +27
You forgot DOGE cuts.
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thejourneybegins42 2 days ago +35
I think the statistical part doesn't change much, it's how much media attention it gets. Shit happens all the time, unfortunately.
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Syncmacd 2 days ago +39
And to understand how Byzantine our health care system, look at the ICD codes. ICD codes tell the insurance company what is going on with the patient. Physicians have to choose from a list of codes. Anyways, there is an ICD code for being sucked into a jet engine. **V97.33XA:** Sucked into jet engine, initial encounter And if you didn’t learn the first time: **V97.33XD:** Sucked into jet engine, subsequent encounter And what if you keep doing it? **V97.33XS:** Sucked into jet engine, sequela This is literally specific to a jet engine. There is a different code for a fixed wing propeller. **V97.32XA:** Injured by rotating propeller, initial encounter While information is certainly needed, sometimes the minutiae gets to the point of exhaustion.
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RottenPaladin 2 days ago +70
I get what you're saying and yes it's ridiculous the level of specification there exists for medical billing in the US, but "subsequent encounter" means a follow-up visit to a provider for the same issue, not getting injured the same way a second time. "Sequelae" is coded for a visit when a new complication of the original injury is diagnosed. https://www.aapc.com/blog/27096-initial-subsequent-sequela-encounter/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23106498124&gclid=CjwKCAjwtvvPBhBuEiwAPMijr7WPS2vzQoxhAjOeVvUASj68UhB215413fXEW8kwaS2FPnHTdQ-cfBoCa-EQAvD_BwE
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Zora74 2 days ago +27
Sequela means a chronic or long term condition arising from an injury or illness. Sequela to being sucked into an engine might be chronic wound care. Initial encounter is the ER visit. Subsequent encounter is subsequent encounters with their medical team, not with more engines.
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feminas_id_amant 2 days ago +11
do you have a better way to account for chronic sucked into engine syndrome?
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waylandsmith 2 days ago +9
Worked for a medical software company that worked with an ICD/CPT database and we'd occasionally amuse ourselves stumbling across bizarrely specific codes.
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CosmoKramersPimpCoat 1 day ago +3
I worked at the airport for ten years and there have been several suicides. One person jumped in front of a tram. I think this was suicide. Awful for the people having to witness it.
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themoneyballman 1 day ago +3
I hate the way these articles are worded. It makes it seem like the airplane hit it without hesitation as if they were the ones who put the stupid person on the runway.
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