This might be the most pointless War ever from which the US had absolutely nothing to gain and the whole world will suffer because of it.
Thanks Trump and Israel.
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IndercarniveMar 19, 2026
+160
What do you mean pointless? It's keeping a war criminal and pedophile from facing consequences. Billions well spent I say
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aaust84ctMar 19, 2026
+31
I think this is it in a nut shell
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KrewtanMar 19, 2026
+26
Let's be real there was never going to be consequences. The US legal system is complete fucked. Basically we have a case of regulatory capture for the crime industry.
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Specialist-Affect-19Mar 19, 2026
+12
It also really helps Israel and Russia, as intended
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Jae_Rides_ApesMar 19, 2026
+3
I could certainly see the world where (assuming he isn’t dead by this point), Trump and certain allies seek Asylum in Russia to avoid prosecution once ousted from office.
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starmartyrMar 19, 2026
+69
Vietnam was based on a flawed premise that our involvement would stop the spread of communism, but even that was a justification. This is even more pointless.
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stuck_in_the_desertMar 19, 2026
+23
“Nihilists? F*** me! I mean, say what you will about the tenets of national socialism, dude, at least it’s an ethos…”
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Sad_Math5598Mar 19, 2026
+9
They also staged a false flag attack and lied about our reasons for going into war for Vietnam
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FirefighterLeft5425Mar 19, 2026
+3
Gulf of Tonkin
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Sad_Math5598Mar 19, 2026
+1
Yes thank you
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Due_Warthog725Mar 19, 2026
+7
also bad when ho chi minh went to the usa for support against colonialism but usa wanted their puppet and then got guerrilla warfare'
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Sans-valeurMar 19, 2026
+4
Actually it was even worse, at first the US wanted to help Vietnam achieve independence from France, just like they did from Britain.
And then they joined in on the French side.
And then the French pulled out? So it was the US and pro French Vietnam vs the Vietnamese who wanted to achieve independence the same way the US did.
So just f****** joining in, in a civil war for independence, in south f****** Asia.
Pretty f****** dumb.
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RightofUpMar 19, 2026
+1
Uhm, it was flawed, but not wholly unrealized. The parallels between Iran and Vietnam are few and far between.
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starmartyrMar 19, 2026
+3
I'm only comparing them in terms of pointlessness. We didn't need to be in Vietnam and gained nothing from our involvement. This war is even stupider.
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RightofUpMar 19, 2026
-7
Maybe, but the Philippines communist movement was largely defeated while we were in Vietnam. 50 years after the fact, don’t be so quick to make assumptions about something as complex as Vietnam.
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Due_Warthog725Mar 19, 2026
+3
not that complex for Vietnam, french colony in the southeast Asia post war 2, where France got ransacked so USA helped France maintain power by puppet gov. Vietnam wanted out of colonialism just like .......
On September 2, 1945, Ho Chi Minh declared Vietnam’s independence by quoting the U.S. Declaration of Independence to a massive crowd in Hanoi
. He specifically quoted, “All men are created equal. They are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights,” to frame Vietnamese independence as a rightful, universally recognized liberty.
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xlews_ther1nxMar 19, 2026
+22
I mean USA will likley gain another generation of ppl who grow up hating them. So there's that.
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gentlecrabMar 20, 2026
+1
Welcome back early 2000s
*And they say that a hero could save us*
*I'm not gonna stand here and waiiiiitttttttt*
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Pork_ChompkMar 19, 2026
+7
>the US had absolutely nothing to gain
Unless you're a defense contractor or on the Epstein list!
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Mister_BrevityMar 19, 2026
+4
If his metric for success is hurting as many people as possible, then he thinks he’s doing a great job.
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barney_muffinbergMar 19, 2026
+89
Yet more empirical proof that our President is a total f****** moron
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stoic_spaghettiMar 19, 2026
+26
His voters mostly
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MadRaymerMar 19, 2026
+12
It's true that his voters are even dumber than he is, but not by much. Part of the reason he has such appeal to them is he's sort of an idiot whisperer that knows exactly what they want to hear.
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UnitSmall2200Mar 20, 2026
+3
What his voters have in common above all is that they are deplorables. They are simply not good people. No idiot with a shred of decency would think Trump is a great man
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Blackboard_MonitorMar 19, 2026
+9
More like the *Republican* party is f****** stupid.
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DesertGaymer94Mar 19, 2026
+300
I live in a red state and have been hearing a lot of “short term pain for long term gain”
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MetaphoricDragonMar 19, 2026
+209
Has anyone ever defined what that "gain" actually is?
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spectre401Mar 19, 2026
+149
They're still waiting for someone to tell them.
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mtgfan1001Mar 19, 2026
+51
Owning the libs I believe
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DocTheYoungerMar 19, 2026
+28
Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon with reduced international backlash ofc.
For the US, just clarification that Chinese scale production of shaheed type drones would decimate archaic US shock and awe military facilities
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AerhyceMar 19, 2026
+23
It's actually shocking to see the US actually struggling in an attrition war, but I guess that's what happens when one side is using multi-million interceptors to shoot down mass-produced flying garbage with bombs strapped to them.
US MIC nowadays is by far the most wasteful and expensive military on the planet, it's never again winning the cheapo race. Too many middlemen that want to profit off of the arms sales.
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Jauh0Mar 20, 2026
+2
Yes, the US now simply couldn't afford a war with China, and that's now apparent to all the world to see...
An Empire's formerly efficient military degrading is a common sign of incoming collapse, unless someone visionary enough manages to gain enough power to reform the system.
A lot of countries are now suddenly on thin ice as their security quarantee "checks" might actually bounce. The current US administration forgot that you're only supposed to go fight the easy wars and let proxies fight the hard ones 😬
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bapeandvapeMar 19, 2026
+13
Yea, the rich billionaires get to see the gains.
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PikmeirMar 19, 2026
+7
I've seen several people on Facebook saying it's to prevent getting nuked, which of course makes no sense. They are guided solely by emotions.
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isigneduptomake1postMar 19, 2026
+5
That was our excuse for Iraq in 2003, but it was more believable then.
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DrWKlopekMar 19, 2026
+13
Simply winning. Winning is the answer.
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punkasstubabitchMar 19, 2026
+6
then they will adjust the goalposts constantly on what "winning" is.
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tuneafishyMar 19, 2026
+7
Yes, the gain is long term.
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krokendilMar 19, 2026
+3
Just 3 more years till the world will gain again I guess.
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Careless-Gain6623Mar 19, 2026
+3
The people they don't like behind bars and a child to r*** in every home.
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DummyDumDragonMar 19, 2026
+3
Oil company profits, obviously, cause those prices ain't going back to normal....
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ashurbanipal420Mar 19, 2026
+2
Surprisingly more pain.
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OnceInABlueMoonMar 19, 2026
+1
Or short term for that matter
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ViperliteMar 19, 2026
+1
A “gain” is when an oil or gas company increases its profits.
A “loss” is when renewables growth outpaces fossil fuels or when EV sales rise.
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DoublePostedBroskiMar 19, 2026
+1
The “gain” in my red state is apparently “no more Muslims.”
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Firm_Argument9124Mar 20, 2026
+1
Has anyone ever defined how long "short term" is?
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PruzterMar 19, 2026
-12
I don’t know why people get so confused by what a US victory would look like here. It looks simply like an agreement with Iran where the US gets what it wants, such as an end to the Iranian nuclear program and an end to the Iranian ballistic missile program. Probably also no drones after this, and no sponsoring insurgent groups such as hezbollah and hamas. It’s not nearly as complicated as people are making it seem.
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Parking-Interview351Mar 19, 2026
+11
We had that already. We didn’t need to blow up the entire Middle East to achieve that.
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PruzterMar 19, 2026
-12
No we didn’t… that is also irrelevant to what what a current US victory would look like. Thanks for adding nothing.
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XjitisMar 19, 2026
+3
Another MAgA nut job spewing nonsense. You really self proclaim with every jab you think you push
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PruzterMar 19, 2026
-5
Again, thanks for adding nothing
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XjitisMar 19, 2026
+6
Likewise clown
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PruzterMar 19, 2026
-2
Im a clown for what? Simply stating something that should be considered obvious to anyone with a functioning brain?
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XjitisMar 19, 2026
+6
See you added nothing just assumptions
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ProfessorDerp22Mar 19, 2026
+46
Where was that attitude while the Biden admin battled to bring down inflation? These red state yokels f****** suck.
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_goblinette_Mar 19, 2026
+10
Or during the pandemic?
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RogerBaumanMar 19, 2026
+55
Yes, that is the current right-wing talking point.
Here's a video from last week with a bunch of right-wing commentators saying the exact same thing.
https://youtube.com/shorts/bKCGnVTY4Us
I will give the Republicans one thing, they know how to coordinate their messaging.
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YeetedAppleMar 19, 2026
+35
It’s easy to coordinate when they are getting paid to just repeat the same talking points given to them. They are all employees together, not independent commentators.
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PockydoMar 19, 2026
+10
Honestly I genuinely want to know where this attitude was during Biden when these same people were SCREAMING Biden was personally making them starve (despite not actually starving)
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phunky_1Mar 19, 2026
+20
It is hilarious how much people buy into the propaganda pushed by Fox News.
The propaganda is so good that people don't even recognize it as propaganda.
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Jedi-OutcastMar 19, 2026
+9
ask them if they said that when egg prices were high
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UnitSmall2200Mar 20, 2026
+1
It was never about the eggs. Just a convenient excuse to shit on democrats and so you stop calling them racists. But it was always about their racism and xenophobia, they only liked Trump so much because he promised to get rid of immigrants and put an end to the woke.
Pedophiles, war, the deficit and the price of eggs, all of it just part of their playbook to mess with us. They don't give a shit about those things, unless they think they can use it ruin it for liberals. It's all about owning the libs.
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06_TBSSMar 19, 2026
+8
Because that's the latest right wing propaganda: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bKCGnVTY4Us
Another one I keep seeing repeated is, "It's worth it for security". The issue is, they're being fed lies about what they're being secured from. We've been under 'imminent' threat from Iran for nearly 50 years.
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SweatytubesockMar 19, 2026
+5
That’s the Fox news talking point, so hardly surprising. Slurping propaganda, shit spoon fed.
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MclovinsHomewreckerMar 19, 2026
+4
“It’s gotta get worse before it gets better.” lol
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PatSajaksDickMar 19, 2026
+5
Where was that attitude during COVID? lol
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hpark21Mar 19, 2026
+5
Like how "short" are we talking about? At this rate of destruction, even if straight does open eventually, there may not be any facility left to take the oil from in the region for a WHILE.
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smailskidMar 19, 2026
+2
Short-term pain, long-term agony.
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celix24Mar 19, 2026
+3
This sounds like 'the greater good'. Definitely not cult...
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xlews_ther1nxMar 19, 2026
+1
They should read his own dept if energy reports that say if the war ended TODAY gas isnt expected ti go back down until like July of 2027.
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xynith116Mar 19, 2026
+1
I think ya’ll are just masochists but are too repressed to admit it
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MAMark1Mar 19, 2026
+1
It's a fascinating insight into their worldview: real-world pain must be ignored due to a wild hypothetical based in nothing but Trump's words. It's the ultimate delusional "get out of jail free" card for MAGA to ignore the consequences of being duped.
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crazinessyoMar 19, 2026
+1
More like short-term memory loss for long-term imbeciles.
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XjitisMar 19, 2026
+1
Only reason is they can't blame Biden for this one
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GirlNumber20Mar 19, 2026
+1
Is the long term gain the couple of years before we have to go back into Iran because now we've created millions of people who hate us by bombing their children to death?
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KaosMnkeyMar 19, 2026
+1
Because all of the Conservative Echo Chamber personalities saying that exact phrase over and over again. Look it up.
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Firm_Argument9124Mar 20, 2026
+1
Ask them how long will they suffer high gas prices and rising grocery costs? A month? 3 months? If gas is still above $3 by Christmas is it worth it?
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Enough_Vehicle_8149Mar 19, 2026
+45
This isn’t just a price bump
it’s a structural shock. When a major energy hub is disrupted, markets reprice long‑term risk, not just immediate supply
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NotagenomeMar 19, 2026
+30
Why would Biden do this 😱
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sicilian504Mar 19, 2026
+6
That damn Jabiden strikes again!
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anythingallMar 19, 2026
+3
Obama's fault!
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k_realtorMar 19, 2026
+16
Don't worry, the war is over and oil prices will come down in a few weeks.
Just like Trump promised in 2019 that the wall would be built in 2 years and Mexico will pay for it.
All done. just have to imagine the wall is there and believe the oil prices are cheaper.
It's all about imagination, feelings and believing.
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stevesmeleMar 19, 2026
+15
It’s at past the point where I dread driving past my first gas station in the morning and seeing how much it’s gone up.
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rapidcreek409Mar 19, 2026
+16
Iranian attacks have knocked out 17% of Qatar’s liquefied natural gas export capacity, causing an estimated $20 billion in lost annual revenue and threatening supplies to Europe and Asia,” Reuters reports
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Reasonable_Answer295Mar 19, 2026
+46
Gas prices our going sky high and the stock market is tanking. Yet for some reason republicans still think they are winning.
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mrdominoeMar 19, 2026
+15
A small price to pay for them to push the white Christian ethnostate they have openly always wanted.
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50SPFGANGMar 19, 2026
-13
Isn't it good for the stock market to go down every now and then? Cause obviously it's inevitably going to go back up and up. Isn't what most people do in investment is wait for a dip in the market to put money in? Why would it be a bad thing.
Asking cause this is how a coworker explained it to me. But this is also besides the point of everything else rising in prices
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moldymoosegooseMar 19, 2026
+10
He's right in a sense when the market is bouncing around random valuations at any given time. Volatility can be good. Causing purposeful destruction can lower long term growth even if the market still goes up. You may be buying cheaper but you could have had better growth even when buying higher.
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anythingallMar 19, 2026
+4
It's good if you want to do insider trading like everyone in this admin.
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PigFarmer1Mar 19, 2026
+10
Wcgw with a TV game show host being POTUS??? lol
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Far_Radish7752Mar 19, 2026
+7
From the BBC News article:
>AJ Bell's head of financial analysis Danni Hewson said the attack and retaliation by Iran had "helped dial up the temperature once again and put renewed upward pressure on oil prices".
>"Any solution to the blockage of the Strait of Hormuz looks pretty distant at this point and unless and, until there is progress on that front, energy markets will likely remain volatile," she added.
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Confident-Pace4314Mar 19, 2026
+7
Thank god we didn't put dems I n charge
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furrysalesman69Mar 19, 2026
+4
Personally, I hope the dudes that roll coal on the streets have to pay triple for polluting our streets. Otherwise, this is pretty grim.
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Careless-Gain6623Mar 19, 2026
+3
How will this affect grocery prices Americans?
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Admirable-Nobody219Mar 19, 2026
+2
short term memory loss, long term ass pain
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XjitisMar 19, 2026
+2
No way! Who could've predicted this... 🤔
Don't worry "The only thing prohibiting transit in the straits right now is Iran shooting at shipping. It is open for transit should Iran not do that"
We're run by such toddlers..
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BloodFartz69Mar 20, 2026
+2
What happens when you have a bunch of stupid podcasters and concepts of a plan.
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StillPissedMar 19, 2026
+2
This is how they push for EVs?
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furrysalesman69Mar 19, 2026
+3
They would never do anything beneficial like that, only block stuff like arresting people from the Epstein files.
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CongrajewlationsMar 20, 2026
+1
This is for liquefied natural gas, not gasoline. If anything, it actually will make charging EVs more expensive given that much of our electricity comes from natural gas fired turbines.
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theBytemeisterMar 20, 2026
+1
Eh, my main pain on my EV is the fact that my "public utility" posted record profits last year and the "citizen governing board" (all republicans appointed by a Republican) just approved a rate hike for next month.
Electricity is so much more efficient, and the sources are so diverse, that an increase in LNG won't make a huge difference in my monthly "fuel budget". Even if the price doubles, I'm looking at less than an extra 20 bucks a month.
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haraldoneMar 20, 2026
+1
Only 20%, prices in Canada are up by almost 50%.
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matiakicooMar 20, 2026
+1
Time to dust off the bike I guess
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Mean_Rule9823Mar 19, 2026
-11
If these types of sites are so vital for the entire world.. why do they have zero defence.
A 3k drone with 200 bucks of explosive can drop the entire world LNG stock by 4 percent ...
Start rethinking how to make and secure these sites
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OciexMar 19, 2026
+8
Because private companies owning them are not allowed to set up military grade weaponry and defenses around their civilian built oil rig?
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Mean_Rule9823Mar 19, 2026
-5
Shielding vital pipelines with concrete or a simple series of drone nets would be completely viable.
In the future most vital infrastructure in risky areas should be built with drone nets
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AirilsaiMar 19, 2026
+4
Orrrrrr stop relying on fuel that can be blown up so easily.
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Robdon326Mar 19, 2026
-10
Why its already in the tanks& haulers& the tanks in the ground under the pumps already. Gas stations bought that gas months even years ago
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