Georgia woman charged with murder after police say she took pills to induce abortion

I always say that abortion is in the bible, but as a recipe, not a rebuke.

People forget that infanticide used to be a common practice. Abortion access helped end that.

It doesn't necessarily show us that "a fetus was considered a part of the mother, not its own entity".  It shows that abortions were understood, practised, and even accepted. It tells us nothing about whether those people saw fetuses as part of the mother, per se. 

"We investigated nothing and found the complaint without merit. We however referred the complainant to state prosecutors for capital murder charges, releasing her complete personal and medical history to the public unnecessarily just for the lulz."

Yeh, I'm hoping he told that doc off but will understand that they're being a bigger person.

[This article](https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/abortion-drug-pill-baby-montgomery-baby/285-4196174f-d989-448a-a2e5-8a170cd8d095) from less than a month ago says they're looking for enough evidence to charge him for capital murder, and the current charges are the easiest to prove.

Islamists 🤝 MAGA Wanting women to be property And honestly a lot of other views..

It's more a Bible belt thing in the states if I'm being honest. It's more of a religion problem imo.

I looked and found 3 men in Texas facing charges for that. Idk if the trump crony is one of them.Mason Herring is charged with doing it 7 times. https://www.newsweek.com/former-trump-aide-administered-abortion-pill-1134501 That must be the one you mean

It’s so awful. I live in Canada and work in healthcare and my go-to advice is always “be honest with doctors about whatever you took, even if it’s not legal, so they can give you the appropriate care, they’re not the police, they want to help you,” but apparently that sentiment doesn’t apply to America.

Exactly, everyone constantly hammers home that the people you don't lie to are the doctors in a hospital. I can definitely see why she did it. But the above advice is good for people to know anyway. She just wouldn't have known.

These pills make you bleed a lot and it's a bit painful and nauseating. They often come with instructions and a helpline to quell any fears you have, but she probably just got too scared. Poor girl. I hate this country so much sometimes and I wish I didn't.

I don't think much would change as far as treatment goes whether you disclose it or not. They're going to manage bleeding, there's medication to help with that. They're going to make sure you're not getting an infection, there's also medication to treat that. Misopristol should clear the body in 6 hours.They may delay removing residual tissue because of their stupid ass laws but there's a really low chance medical staff would know if it was self induced with medication unless self-reported.

All hospitals and doctors can now access your medical records no matter where you go. Electronic medical records has made this very easy. Especially My Chart through Epic.

Just wait until they pass a law mandating a toxicology test on any miscarriages

There’s no test for that medicine anyway. I work in a hospital lab and we can only test for meds or drugs that tests have been developed for. The only possible way to detect it would be using gas chromatography which would be sent out and take days. It’s very expensive. Plus it’s a fast metabolizing medicine so there’s a chance it’d be out of your system by the time you felt something like was going wrong and went to the hospital. 

It's just awful because I have been told over and over my whole life "always tell the truth to doctors. They won't get you in trouble for seeking help" obviously meant for things like illegal drugs and the like. But, no longer the case I guess. Never know who you can trust, so trust no one.

My best friend recently had a missed miscarriage at about 8 weeks in Fort Worth and the clinic refused to prescribe her misoprostol because she was “too far along and it would DEFINITELY cause her to haemorrhage”. She got a second opinion by telehealth out of state and all the doctor would say was that what they were saying wasn’t “evidence based”. They were lying out of their asses.

US, China, Russia leading the charge on shit hole countries running the world 

Elections have consequences. This is the result of everyone who refused to vote for Hillary in 2016, for whatever reason

I don't believe there will be fair elections anymore. We're stuck with these demons forever. Or of they do get pushed, their followers will cause violence and make the US hell.

See also /r/OrphanCrushingMachine/...

It’s worse, they don’t think we should have any. It’s in Project 2025

Oh no, it’s important to them. They really don’t want women to have bodily autonomy. They are oddly obsessed with controlling women’s bodies. Do they not have better things to “fix”? Does this track back to mommy issues?

No, it’s extremely important to them that women have no bodily autonomy.

Neither is children's apparently

Women and children just are not important to them. Hell anyone not a white man with money they don't care about.

That’s not true, eliminating it is extremely important to them.

That’s really far along….im pro choice but that’s a way too far along

Oh sweet fuckin’ Jesus. This probably wouldn’t have happened if abortion was easily accessible. Oh my gods that poor baby.

Hospital staff and cops have been found to lie about this sort of bizarre/salacious detail, and wildly so, in many cases where miscarriages or suspected abortions have been criminalized. Jessica Valenti has made a point of investigating for and reporting on reproductive justice issues.

A lot of Americans decide to just not grapple with the fact we are still a slavery practicing country. The government decides who is a criminal, and therefore who is a slave. Naturally the confederate flag flying party wants to be in charge of the government and enslave whoever they want.

The law is working just like they intended harming women.

Pro-choice radiologist here.  I mostly agree with your post, with a caveat. I think "heartbeat laws" are dumb for a lot of reasons, but IMO trying to counter heartbeat laws with "there is no heart(beat) at 6 weeks" weakens the pro-choice argument.  That assertion is questionable and depends very heavily on the "6 weeks" part...by 9-10 weeks the embryonic/fetal heart is essentially a small version of an adult heart, including having all 4 chambers and valves, and I doubt most of us would support a 9 or 10-week abortion ban because we care deeply about the aortic valve. Why should it matter if there is a heartbeat, or a fully-formed heart?  A fetus or embryo having a heartbeat does not mean it has a "soul" or sentience or personhood, or that it is equal in worth to the woman it is developing inside.  An adult can be declared braindead while still having a heartbeat.  You can die, your heart can be transplanted into someone else, and it can beat...that doesn't mean you are still alive.  Your heart can stop beating, and you can still be alive (either temporarily or through various means).  You can be born with congenital heart disease and have a malformed or incompletely formed heart, and still be a living person.  You can lose a part of your heart due to injury or disease and still be alive. At 6-7 weeks, the developing embryonic heart is obviously not complete, but it literally contracts and pumps blood and typically has a pretty regular rhythm between 120-160 bpm unless there is a problem.  I think most would consider that to be a "heartbeat" in plain language.  When we see it on an ultrasound, the ultrasound is detecting the motion of the embryonic heart as it contracts.  It is not just picking up the tiny amount of electrical activity within the cells (which would be impossible for a medical ultrasound probe to do, it uses piezoelectric crystals that detect tiny changes in pressure from soundwaves and converts that to an electrical signal, it does not directly measure electrical activity).  Both embryonic and adult hearts beat *because* of electrical activity stimulating the myocytes to contract. When people say "the sound of the heartbeat is not real, it's created by the ultrasound machine", like...lol, wtf does that have to do with whether abortion should be legal.  Of course the sound you hear is altered and amplified and coming from the machine's speaker.  That's about like saying "you can't really hear someone talk over the telephone, it's just a sound made by a machine."  It's the same as when you ultrasound an adult's heart, or a carotid artery, and the machine makes a sound indicating the waveforms it is detecting from the moving tissue or flowing blood.