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News & Current Events Apr 22, 2026 at 12:09 PM

Germany unveils strategy for becoming Europe’s strongest military by 2039

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Germany unveils strategy for becoming Europe’s strongest military by 2039
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Germany unveils strategy for becoming Europe’s strongest military by 2039
The Bundeswehr will move away from rigid hardware quotas − the number of tanks, aircraft or ships − toward a flexible, effects-based planning model.

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xxdryan Apr 22, 2026 +5991
And they say we germans dont have humor
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nthai Apr 22, 2026 +1370
Very efficient joke.
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LinguoBuxo Apr 22, 2026 +166
[boot heels click] *Na klar!!*
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Dazzling_River9903 Apr 22, 2026 +53
You would probably say „Jawohl!“
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PredatorRedditer Apr 22, 2026 +49
My 10th grade history teacher claimed they tried showing Seinfeld in Germany, but it got low ratings. They swapped the time s*** with Hogan's Heros which garnered more viewers.
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Key_Tomato_5216 Apr 22, 2026 +21
Oh yeah we love Hogan’s Heroes over here in germany. (At least the older generations) I always watched it with my dad.
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DillBagner Apr 22, 2026 +77
Seinfeld really isn't funny in general though. It become painfully obvious when you see an episode with the laugh track removed.
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TheMadChatta Apr 22, 2026 +34
Seinfeld suffers from its own success. It was revolutionary at the time but when every show since has copied it to some degree, it feels cliche and clunky.
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Grogfoot Apr 22, 2026 +15
Yes. It's like in the 80s/90s when we didn't understand what people thought was so revolutionary about the Beatles in the 60s. It's because every other band copied the shit out of them, and even improved on their creativity. So unless you were around to see Seinfeld at the time it was live, it feels pretty mediocre now.
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Hour_Gur4995 Apr 22, 2026 +5
I wouldn’t call it mediocre it still holds up
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Spork_Warrior Apr 22, 2026 +26
Don't touch that slappin' bass though.
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ThePerfectSnare Apr 22, 2026 +52
Regardless of the series, that's not an objective way to measure a show's quality. The scenes are written/edited to include timing for an audience reaction, and if you replace that reaction with awkward silence, it's going to be... awkwardly silent.
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Various-Passenger398 Apr 22, 2026 +36
Nah, *Seinfeld* is still one of the GOATs for sitcoms.
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jeobleo Apr 22, 2026 +22
Right? I cannot believe someone literally said "Seinfeld isn't funny."
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SitInCorner_Yo2 Apr 22, 2026 +192
To quote my uncle R: >Germans actually are are humorous people, but it’s German humor ,so only Germans can understand .
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UlrichZauber Apr 22, 2026 +47
My German grandfather was one of the funniest people I’ve ever known. I never understood the stereotype. 
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saltwitch Apr 22, 2026 +57
A lot of German humour can be either bone dry or based on puns or regional stereotypes. Heinz Erhardt wrote some of the funniest poetry, but it plays with language so much that it just doesn't translate well at all.
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Jaspers47 Apr 22, 2026 +46
In other words, Germans laugh at the germane
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Grimmtown Apr 22, 2026 +5
Grundgütiger!
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BassesNBikes Apr 22, 2026 +155
"As a German, I just want to get this straight. The entire Western world wants us to build up a huge army, march through Poland and fight the Russians if necessary. Just writing it down so there are no misunderstandings in future...”
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haveananus Apr 22, 2026 +55
You'll fight the US, Russia, and Israel, but this time you get to be the good guy!
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Ok-Interview-9973 Apr 22, 2026 +19
Only if they win.
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Sivalon Apr 22, 2026 +5
How much turning can the tables have?
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xmuskorx Apr 22, 2026 +44
German humor is no laughing matter.
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razzraziel Apr 22, 2026 +20
Everybody’s gangsta until the Germans start prepping for the 100th anniversary.
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Robot-Candy Apr 22, 2026 +13
If anyone deserves a third chance, I think it’s Germany.
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Charming-Awareness79 Apr 22, 2026 +18
It's a German joke - it doesn't have to be funny
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Far-Iron-4281 Apr 22, 2026 +10457
It couldn't have been in any other year.
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FlaviusAurelian Apr 22, 2026 +3335
I sure am looking forward to 2045
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furimmerkaiser Apr 22, 2026 +211
Oh man. I have to be careful now. My roommate recently moved from Austria to Munich
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Hot_Construction_505 Apr 22, 2026 +142
Do they like painting?
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furimmerkaiser Apr 22, 2026 +194
Yeah but don't worry he is really bad at it
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TenshiS Apr 23, 2026 +99
Now I'm really worried
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2AvsOligarchs Apr 23, 2026 +17
We need to separate the art from the artist!
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Rachnor Apr 23, 2026 +3
Does he at least hate and or eat animals?
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NoMoreMrNiceAI Apr 22, 2026 +18
That made me laugh.
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xVEEx3 Apr 22, 2026 +948
2041 finna go crazy
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Kpt_Kipper Apr 22, 2026 +408
cancelling my 2030s China trip
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MareC0gnitum Apr 22, 2026 +232
I was going to spend the Christmas of 2037 in Nanjing. 😭😭
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Fetish_anxiety Apr 22, 2026 +141
Guys, should I still be in Spain by 2036?
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Mugut Apr 22, 2026 +92
Wait until 2031. If we boot the king, that's your signal to leave too.
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AbsolutePotatoRosti Apr 22, 2026 +68
I mean, I know that nowadays everything is a remake, but this is getting ridiculous.
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SweetNeo85 Apr 22, 2026 +17
Some threequels are inevitable it would seem.
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Hellingame Apr 22, 2026 +10
I heard that southern Japan is beautiful in early August. Planning to visit in 2045
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tarosan_sk Apr 22, 2026 +7
Do you like the heat?
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thatguy112232 Apr 22, 2026 +56
Quick, someone check on the USS Arizona
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imatumahimatumah Apr 22, 2026 +34
It's not good, sir.
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timnotep Apr 22, 2026 +24
It seems to have sprung a leak
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RKCronus55 Apr 22, 2026 +11
Still leaking after many decades
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TheDisgruntledWiener Apr 22, 2026 +11
“Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"
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ActuallyActuary69 Apr 22, 2026 +42
The battle of Putingrad?
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sweetno Apr 22, 2026 +8
Can't happen, Apocalypse is planned for 2040.
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Staschman Apr 22, 2026 +46
As friends this time.. right?
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Todespudel Apr 22, 2026 +15
As far as german politics are going, I think I have disappointing news to tell you...
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xion_gg Apr 22, 2026 +14
The 2040's are gonna be lit
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antantantant80 Apr 22, 2026 +5
I didn't get the first comment til I saw your comment.
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rdldr1 Apr 22, 2026 +5
I want my consciousness preserved so I can make it to 2077!!
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toddlangtry Apr 22, 2026 +327
The 100th anniversary!
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Ray_of_glumshine Apr 22, 2026 +129
The third time is the charm?
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Shadowxofxodin556 Apr 22, 2026 +138
The third sounds about Reich. Edit: thanks so much for the award!! And another thanks for the second award lol wow!!
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Individual-Yard52 Apr 22, 2026 +36
Give this man an award (not the iron cross)
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ConchobarMacNess Apr 22, 2026 +14
More like fourth?
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ActuallyActuary69 Apr 22, 2026 +140
We also strengthened our military cooperation with Japan a few weeks ago.
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Ray_of_glumshine Apr 22, 2026 +37
And we know failure is the best teacher, so the third time is the charm?
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BottlesforCaps Apr 22, 2026 +20
And Japan has started manufacturing weapons again and said they are going to start bolstering their military again!
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Skythewood Apr 22, 2026 +156
Because of AI, it will be harder to get into art school. That's not a good sign.
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Curious-Device-9582 Apr 22, 2026 +223
Happy centenary. America can ignore till December 2041
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OrangeJr36 Apr 22, 2026 +114
I hear they're planning a new massive military base in the west bank if the Rhine in 2036!
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ZuAusHierDa Apr 22, 2026 +189
Germany wants the Olympic Games in 2036. not kidding.
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Village_People_Cop Apr 22, 2026 +91
Poland sweating bullets already for September first
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Barton2800 Apr 22, 2026 +30
Last time Poland was jointly invaded by the Soviets and the Nazis. Hitler and Stalin were allies who had planned the invasion out ahead of time. The Wehrmacht and Red Army literally met in the middle and shook hands. Stalin was flabbergasted when Hitler later betrayed him. If there’s a war in Poland again, they won’t be getting invaded from the western border this time. And if German tanks are crossing the border in to Poland, they’re likely being escorted by the Poles to help defend against Russian encroachment.
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Nocritus Apr 22, 2026 +45
Stalin was not flabbergastet by the betrayel, he knew Hitler would attack the Ussr at some point, he just thought they would attack later. This was the reason, why he cooperated with him in the first place, to buy himself time to prepare.
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cloudforested Apr 22, 2026 +6
This is so funny. I hope they host.
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Hoskuld Apr 22, 2026 +9
Also got an election in '33 with a currently rising far right and Conservatives who think they can use/controll them...
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[deleted] Apr 22, 2026 +135
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MetalliTooL Apr 22, 2026 +22
But why would they do that on purpose?
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loltehwut Apr 22, 2026 +61
Because some listnookors can't fathom that the world doesn't run on puns and witty comments
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EconomicRegret2 Apr 22, 2026 +20
Are you telling me politicians don't care about optics? Especially *German* politicians, who are drilled for years, starting at the age of 10-12, about Nazism, WW2 and their ancestors' crimes??? And *German* society in general being particularly rich with examples of change for optics, given the country's acute sensitivity to its historical legacy???
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PropJoesChair Apr 22, 2026 +7
old habits die hard
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Aramis444 Apr 22, 2026 +68
Reality has become a parody of itself.
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Silly-Role699 Apr 22, 2026 +16
I would like a word with whoever is writing the script. It’s… not great.
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Aramis444 Apr 22, 2026 +10
I agree, the writers are definitely getting lazy and are just reusing old plots. Kind of like how Hollywood just does remakes of old films now and nothing new.
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ironmonkey09 Apr 22, 2026 +8
The geopolitical landscape is changing so fast that it’s got countries gearing up their military like athletes preparing for some sort of Olympic event. I’m so looking forward to this century’s World War. /s
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space_cheese1 Apr 22, 2026 +23
Germany unveils strategy for becoming Europe’s weakest military by 2045
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SitInCorner_Yo2 Apr 22, 2026 +7
Japan:I think I saw this script before.
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Unhappy-Sky4608 Apr 22, 2026 +13
Time really is a flat circle
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VoomVoomBoomer Apr 22, 2026 +16
Its the  1920's all over again :(
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thorcik Apr 22, 2026 +3282
20**39**? *Sweats in polish*
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ValueBlitz Apr 22, 2026 +564
Yep, right after Germany's 2036 Olympics. Let me check my calendar. Yep, polls show the right wing party just became the strongest in the last few months. So 3 more years for the divide between rich and poor to become larger and the economy to crash due to the current government's incompetence (although they might actually be achieving this earlier than expected).
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Beatrixporter Apr 22, 2026 +88
Don't you feel like someone or something is f****** with us?
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kajokarafili Apr 22, 2026 +27
An international clique perhaps?!
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B4rn3ySt1n20N Apr 22, 2026 +14
No war in 2024 against France tho, not creating tons of old comrades who would love nothing more than dominate Europe
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kuschelig69 Apr 22, 2026 +26
At least the pandemic was on time
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nondescriptun Apr 22, 2026 +459
If you're sweating polish you absolutely need to see a doctor.
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PredatorRedditer Apr 22, 2026 +264
Czech your temperature at least.
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madame_eclose Apr 22, 2026 +94
We need help! Norse! Norse!
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cobrachicken26 Apr 22, 2026 +39
Call the D.R! (Congo)
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blitzwig Apr 22, 2026 +38
Too late, I've just Spained my ankle.
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NGTTwo Apr 22, 2026 +22
Maybe you should lie down and have a nice Nap(al).
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LevoiHook Apr 22, 2026 +24
Everybody Romain calm!
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JesusSavesForHalf Apr 22, 2026 +18
Pardon my French, but everyone freak the f*** out!
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loungesinger Apr 22, 2026 +10
Anyone speak French? I’m just trying to get this guy to go Dutch on the dinner check.
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-bassassin- Apr 22, 2026 +30
Only if you're doing it for more than 4 hours
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Personnel_jesus Apr 22, 2026 +8
It will buff out
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TheRealWhiteWizard Apr 22, 2026 +4
Lol I once worked retail and was restocking toothbrushes. I was trying to figure out why each brush package said 'polish' on it. Took me longer than I care to admit, before I figured it out
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U_Kitten_Me Apr 22, 2026 +53
Don't worry, Germany has laws now that forbid them to harm horses. Your cavalry is safe. 
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JarasM Apr 22, 2026 +8
I know this is a joke, but I'll use this opportunity to be a spoilsport and remind that [the idea that Poles fought German tanks on horseback was Nazi propaganda](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge_at_Krojanty).
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smltor Apr 22, 2026 +19
I mean soldiers on horseback using anti tank weapons on an enemy at night when the enemy are mostly sleeping makes as much sense now as it did then... As a kiwi I actually read about the engagement that my Polish wife told me about. Apparently at school she was taught (by the Russian regime) that Poles were dumb enough to attack tanks front on during the day with swords. The reality seems like they were actually fairly smart soldiers and did a shit load of damage against a far superior foe. hey I think I have heard that recently as well.
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NatseePunksFeckOff Apr 22, 2026 +25
cavalry charge with swords is literal Nazi propaganda that people propagate to this very day. it's actually quite sad
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Target880 Apr 22, 2026 +12
There was a cavalery charge by Poland against Germany, which was successful. I am not sure if they used swords. It was not a stupid idea, the attack was successful, and they dispersed the German infantry force they attacked. The problem was that German armoured cars arrived with machine guns and perhaps 20mm cannon too. The poles were exposed and had to retreat, and many were killed. Most men and the tankettes they had were held back in reserve. I would assume the anti-tank rifles that the cavalry had were held back, too. They could penetrate armoured cars and many tanks of the day. German tanks only arrived after the battle, which was shown to German and Italian journalists The division the infantry unit was from was not even considered a tactical retreat after the battle. The attack slowed down the advance of the Germans. The Polish cavalry was in the process of being converted to motorised units when the war started.
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xjpmhxjo Apr 22, 2026 +725
Japan is back. Germany is back.
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Thierry22 Apr 22, 2026 +202
Is Italy coming too?
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Shiggy-88 Apr 22, 2026 +255
No, they fucked up so hard they are not invited anymore.
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rutep Apr 22, 2026 +98
as is tradition
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Dancingedleslie Apr 22, 2026 +46
No you’re thinking of the World Cup, not World War. Common mistake.
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[deleted] Apr 22, 2026 +8
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Wiggles69 Apr 23, 2026 +4
Italy can build things 2 ways: The absolute pinnacle of the art, combining stunning beauty with sublime functionality into a work of art (Ferrari) or the absolute worst possible combination of piss-poor design, inferior materials & lackadaisical approach to manufacturing to create something that is more like a punishment than a vehicle (Iveco). There is no in-between. So I wonder what end of the scale are their ship yards are operating at?
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LiterallyOnFire Apr 22, 2026 +23
Make Axis Great Again
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Firestorm0x0 Apr 22, 2026 +16
The empire strikes back.
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RadicallyMeta Apr 22, 2026 +15
in pog form?
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Ozdad Apr 22, 2026 +1322
First part of strategy - don't get attacked before 2039.
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elite90 Apr 22, 2026 +270
To be fair, this strategy implies overtaking the likes of France and UK militarily. I suppose the goal to have an actually operational army is set to an earlier date
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Ok_Buyer9344 Apr 22, 2026 +81
I really hope the UK and France dont make this too easy for Germany... They want Europes top spot, they have to earn it
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nmadz Apr 22, 2026 +18
Don't worry, being able to brew team in our MBT gives us +1000 HP
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abfgern_ Apr 22, 2026 +30
I mean, "strongest military" is highly subjective. UK probably has strongest navy in a 1v1 but land army is relatively small, because why wouldn't it be, they dont really need it? France has probably the best Military industry base and has a lot of great tech, but has its focus split a lot between land, sea and air. Both have nukes but, does that count when comparing 'conventuinal' forces? UK would probably the hardest country to physically invade in Europe, but that's largely geographic amd economic not pure military strength. In terms of creating the strongest land army Germany could fairly easily eventually top UK&FRA, but that is their primary domain, which it isn't for the other two
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moderate_ocelot Apr 22, 2026 +30
The Royal Navy can reliably deploy one or two frigates, a handful off offshore patrol vessels, and one SSBN. That’s it. The SSBN deployments are getting dicey too, and definitely stretch the definition of “reliably”. On a good day, you’ll also get a choice of maybe one SSN, one air defence destroyer, and / or a carrier that may or may not have a full complement of aircraft. Don’t ask about amphibious capabilities or logistics. There isn’t any. France regularly deploys their SSN fleet, keeps their SSBN fleet at sea without 6 month plus deployments, and has a properly available set of frigates and anti air warfare frigates to e***** its carrier as and when it’s deployed. The carrier also has a full complement of locally supported and highly available aircraft. Don’t ask about escorting the carrier; they can’t do it. Even on paper the RN is in shit state but in reality it’s worse as most of the fleet is stuck in maintenance hell, or actively falling apart (Type 23s). This won’t be remedied at all with current plans. The only fix is significantly more money even than current planned increases account for. Btw, I’m not advocating for spaffing tons of money to bloated defence companies, I don’t really care about the state of the RN. Just, you know. It definitely is not the preeminent European navy
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Excelius Apr 22, 2026 +7
Silver lining here is that Russia isn't exactly a naval powerhouse either. Russia is at such a geographic disadvantage here. Land based missiles pretty much make the entire Baltic/North/Black/Mediterranean seas a death trap for the Russian Navy if Europe decides to start shooting.
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Dr_Hull Apr 22, 2026 +12
And Ukraine and Russia. The two largest armies in Europe and both are battle hardened. I hope Ukraine will extend us security guaranties once the is over
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Chowder110 Apr 22, 2026 +5
Not sure i would call the Russians battle hardened. More like the few ones that will survive the war will have ptsd
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Ultra_Metal Apr 22, 2026 +18
All they have to do is ask Putin nicely.
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bailaoban Apr 22, 2026 +359
Hey! I know this song!
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dah-dit-dah Apr 22, 2026 +35
Was Ist Der Deutschen Vaterland? Definitely a banger
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Firkantspiker Apr 22, 2026 +21
Once all the Germans were warlike and mean,  but that couldn't happen again. We taught them a lesson in 1918, and they hardly bothered us since then. -MLF lullaby by Tom Lehrer 
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henkdev Apr 22, 2026 +13
***♫ Auf der heide blüht ein kleines Blümelein ♪***
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kausemos Apr 22, 2026 +8
Und das heißt
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Wiseguy_7 Apr 23, 2026 +8
Erika
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D3v1l89 Apr 22, 2026 +204
Back then Hitler started in 33 so Germany has a head start this time
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Immediate_Move_3742 Apr 22, 2026 +83
The germans had started rearming before hitler, look at their secret cooperation with the USSR on tank development.
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abittooambitious Apr 22, 2026 +7
Now all they need is a fuhrer to get them going. Japan’s found theirs, keep up Germany, there’s an axis to form!
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nonviolent_blackbelt Apr 23, 2026 +6
And airplane development. And pilot training.
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Unhappy-Sky4608 Apr 22, 2026 +8
I guess studying history really does stop you from repeating it
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Yelworc0242 Apr 22, 2026 +441
This time round they could well be the good guys.
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techjesuschrist Apr 22, 2026 +235
Well, ̶N̶S̶D̶A̶P̶ AfD (far right political party) is leading in the polls right now, so it means the next government will be ideologycally totally different than the current one.. they will just inherit the already built ̶W̶e̶h̶r̶m̶a̶c̶h̶t̶ ̶ army.
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SaltWealth5902 Apr 22, 2026 +95
Even if they were to have the most seats in parliament, they'd be very far away from a majority. Unless the CDU wants to repeat the mistakes of the past and forms a government with them (I wouldn't put it past them with the likes of Spahn), we will have a government of CDU/SPD/Greens for the foreseeable future.
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MissLeaP Apr 22, 2026 +89
I mean, they're the conservatives. Repeating mistakes is kinda their whole thing lol
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moh_099 Apr 22, 2026 +14
As long as the mistakes are traditional in nature.
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Beat_the_Deadites Apr 22, 2026 +39
> they'd be very far away from a majority That also tracks with early 1930s Germany.
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ZuAusHierDa Apr 22, 2026 +51
You need a bit more than 25% to get into government.
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tollbearer Apr 22, 2026 +50
Correct, the nazis needed abotu 30%
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McMacki123 Apr 22, 2026 +42
Please read some history. One of the biggest reasons for their power were the unchecked Powers of the reichspräsident which does not exist anymore. We have to fight the AfD but this doomerism does not help anybody
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Thurak0 Apr 22, 2026 +16
And then to finally end democracy they had the support of all parties, except the (forbidden) Communists and the SPD. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933 Let's not forget the enablers of fascism. They were all dissolved/forbidden/irrelevant a few years later. I still hope that some people in the CDU remember how their predecessor voting *for* Hitler ended up. Even for themselves: Zentrum party was forbidden soon after.
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Dimi7rozavar Apr 22, 2026 +28
What do you mean first time!?
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deathnoose15 Apr 22, 2026 +17
"Might have been the losing side....still not convinced it was the wrong one." Captain Malcom Renolds
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Pathetian Apr 22, 2026 +4
The great thing about history is the good guys always win.
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Marijuana_Miler Apr 22, 2026 +7
Are we the goodies?
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MoboCross Apr 22, 2026 +6
Third time the chance!
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St_Atheist Apr 22, 2026 +83
Why did they specifically set the target date for having their army ready for 2039—exactly 100 years after their invasion of Poland? Maybe they should clarify that on September 1, 2039, they will be the largest army... ?
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gigandick Apr 22, 2026 +23
We'll invade that island the danes are contesting with the canadians, they didn't put the bottle there last time.
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PrettyInvestigator90 Apr 22, 2026 +17
There's no conflict anymore, the issue was finally settled and approved in 2023, splitting the island in two between Denmark and Canada.
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pseudoart Apr 22, 2026 +11
Yeah. Denmark and Canada now have a land border. Which is weird.
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wretchedoftheearth6 Apr 22, 2026 +17
it is kinda weird like they couldn't have rounded it up to 2040?
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Wiseguy_7 Apr 23, 2026 +4
Well, they are German. I don't think they can help it. That big of a rounding might cause someone to develop a rash or something.
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madmadaa Apr 22, 2026 +21
Should also look for a pact with Italy.
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Wurstpaket Apr 22, 2026 +695
I, as a German, would prefer the European Army to be the strongest military, not any national one. we need each other
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shredditorburnit Apr 22, 2026 +184
There's and argument for keeping them seperate, given it allows the majority to act even if one or two states decide to be obstructive.
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qeadwrsf Apr 22, 2026 +19
I agree. A bit to the extreme. I would prefer polices to be local. Preferably even having some kind of commitment to live where they police. I would prefer our military be segregated in a way so there is some kind of connection to the countries interest. But I can also see a world where that dream is unsustainable because thread need us to have a more central defence.
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meerkat2018 Apr 22, 2026 +85
European army is a pipe dream. Even right now, when it comes to general European political or economic issues, there is always someone sabotaging the whole thing over tiniest disagreements. Not even mentioning leaders and parties being bought by Russia left and right. It would be more optimal to have a treaty to have multiple very strong and capable militaries who are able to cooperate and work together when shit hits the fan.
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Turtle_Rain Apr 22, 2026 +22
It requires stronger European integration to the point where the EU becomes the leading governing body, at least on foreign policy and trade. That seems far away, but should be the goal imo as it is the only way in which the EU can act as a respectable global power. It currently is indecisive, slow and very weak to divide-and-rule attacks by foreign powers.
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xSean93 Apr 22, 2026 +54
We can't even rebuild infrastructure right now. I highly doubt we'll have "the strongest military" in 14 years.
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glabel35 Apr 22, 2026 +123
American here. It’s 100% possible to have a strong military and neglect infrastructure
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meerkat2018 Apr 22, 2026 +25
>and neglect infrastructure And public healthcare
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Bubbelgium Apr 22, 2026 +6
A European Defense Force doesn't have to mean the disbanding of national armies. We could follow a model similar to the US one, with the national guard and the US Army (& USAF, US Navy, etc) The EDF's role would be strictly limited to the defense of EU territory, no out-of-area operations. A shared command structure with deployments requiring a qualified majority vote (not unanimous, we've seen how easily this can be abused) "But that's what NATO is for" NATO's greatest strength was never Article 5 itself, it was the credibility of the commitment behind it. No treaty automatically sends soldiers anywhere. What deterred aggression was the unshakeable belief that it would. That belief is now shaken. An alliance where a single member can cast doubt on the whole thing isn't worth the paper it's written on. The EDF isn't about replacing NATO, it's about not being left exposed if NATO continues to unravel. I'd go even further and reinstate mandatory military service, just for the EDF. There's nothing dystopian about it, Finland has mandatory military service and they consistently rank as the happiest bunch on the planet. A year of EDF service for young Europeans, rotating across countries, training alongside people from 27 different nations. The fastest way to forge a shared European identity is to have people from wildly different backgrounds go through something hard together and come out the other side. But, but, what language are they going to speak?! English. The French Foreign Legion takes recruits who've never spoken a word of French and gets them functional in months. Europeans who've been immersed in English through the internet, films, games and TV shows since childhood would adapt even faster. Funding is a tough one. Legalize cannabis across the EU. The tax revenue + savings on enforcement costs alone would be substantial. It won't cover everything, but it's a start. Even the hippies and pacifists get to contribute to rearmament. We Europeans aren't exactly known for our bold, out of the box thinking. Plenty of people are still convinced the next 30 years will play out like the last 30. They won't and that complacency is going to cost us dearly.
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Monty423 Apr 22, 2026 +17
Is it mefo bills
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JarJarBingChilling Apr 22, 2026 +9
They went down Prioritise Economic Growth tree instead of 4 Year Plan.
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martenic Apr 22, 2026 +112
Poland and Ukraine will probably grow even faster if we look at current trends in military growth.
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JoSeSc Apr 22, 2026 +42
Poland doesn't have a lot more room to grow they are spending 4.8% of GDP on defence already, and the government debt went from 55% of gdp in 2024 to projected to be 69% in 2027, which is still low comparatively but it puts into doubt how sustainable that is long term. Ukraine also probably not that much more room either unless they get more outside support and widen conscription and either way after the war is over Ukraines military needs to contract because 30% of gdp is obviously not sustainable at peace and if the war is still going in 2039 something went horribly wrong.
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Diurnalnugget Apr 22, 2026 +21
The second overwhelming foreign aid dwindles the Ukraine military is getting scaled back
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threeeater Apr 22, 2026 +91
Hmmm history sure rhymes every hundred years
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tollbearer Apr 22, 2026 +32
wait till you see the crash in 29.
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Pazuuuzu Apr 22, 2026 +7
come on, this decade is packed already...
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HitReDi Apr 22, 2026 +9
Do not reject any austrian student artist from any art school for the next years to come!
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Snapes_underpants Apr 22, 2026 +8
Obligatory: "Once all the Germans were warlike and mean, but that couldn't happen again. We taught them a lesson in 1918, and they've hardly bothered us since then." *Tom Lehrer* Having posted that, I think the Germans are doing the right thing given current circumstances.
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Equivalent-Wedding21 Apr 22, 2026 +42
Meanwhile AfD is topping all the polls. This might not end that well.
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Visible_Bar_623 Apr 22, 2026 +57
Classic bullshit from our european governments. "We COMMIT to being SUPER GOOD at this one thing.....*by \[insert random future date\]"* \*proceeds to never do it\*
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socialistrob Apr 22, 2026 +23
Germany has been rearming for years though. They're not just sitting around doing nothing. These plans to increase with future dates are still very important because they send the message to industry that the German rearmament will continue. Weapons manufacturers don't want to invest in a huge factory to come online in 2027 if all orders stop in 2028. The industry needs assurances that Germany's rearmament will continue.
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EatVegetables_ok Apr 22, 2026 +24
LET'S NOT DISTURB ANY ARTIST OR CREATIVE MINDS FROM GERMANY! ALLOW THEM TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES THROUGH THEIR ART!
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crystalclearbuffon Apr 22, 2026 +29
Austria*
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wgszpieg Apr 22, 2026 +50
*Auf der Heide blüht ein kleines Blümelein*
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Heikot Apr 22, 2026 +21
*Oh putain, c'est reparti.*
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Jolly-Valuable-94 Apr 22, 2026 +4
Time to party like is 2039 again 
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Do_itsch Apr 22, 2026 +35
Who's gonna pay for all of that? Because according to our chancellor Merz we are all just lazy pieces of shit who just want handouts and dont want to work. Also who will be in this "strongest" army? I dont see young people joining when all year the gouvernment is gaslighting everyone below the age of 50y.
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TemuBoySnaps Apr 22, 2026 +15
>Also who will be in this "strongest" army? I dont see young people joining when all year the gouvernment is gaslighting everyone below the age of 50y. Well the Bundeswehr has been growing, and receiving more applications as well. You don't need to love your government to still want to keep your country and the entire union safe.
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polloyumyum Apr 22, 2026 +20
The Americans in here are saying "what could go wrong" is kind of funny. Your country is literally following Hitler's step by step guide to fascism.
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Reasonable-Act-7175 Apr 22, 2026 +21
Poor Poland
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tabakista Apr 22, 2026 +22
This time we're preparing
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Mean_Joke_7360 Apr 22, 2026 +10
Betcha this version of Mein Kampf will be all TikTok reels.
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SageGoes Apr 22, 2026 +3
Oh not this shit again
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Successful-Mouse2774 Apr 22, 2026 +3
So I guess Battlefield 2042’s going to be a real thing then. Cool.
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Opportunityyy Apr 23, 2026 +3
And at the end of all of this someone will have a super nuke. ^(it kinda looks like it might be China)
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Tribalbob Apr 23, 2026 +3
Reminder to German Art Schools: please just pass anyone for the next couple decades.
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