“Given the incubation period of the hantavirus, which can be up to six weeks, it is possible that more cases may be reported”, says World Health Organization
WOAH PANDEMIC BAM BA LAM
WOAH PANDEMIC BAM BA LAM
Cuz FIFA's in my town BAM BA LAM
The damn thing gon' be wild BAM BA LAM
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AdMinimum59705 days ago
+99
Reminds me of Plague Inc
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rexallia5 days ago
+41
I recently thought of playing this game again. The last time I played it was a couple months before Covid started 😅
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simonbleu5 days ago
+23
Oh, you would be perfect hosts indeeed
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Tribalbob5 days ago
+69
Vancouver? Yeah fml
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mr_lab_rat5 days ago
+47
Yeah, not excited about that. Can’t afford tickets, traffic is gonna be fucked, and now this shit?
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Tribalbob5 days ago
+24
I live downtown - I plan to go out for necessities but I'm going to basically hermit up for the month or so it's here.
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it_iz_what_it_iz15 days ago
+30
San Jose, Ca
Sorry. Not hosting, but we are having matches here.
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Bert3065 days ago
+26
Ya all over north america FIFA world Cup games are being hosted. What timing
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hanyou0075 days ago
+51
I'd say I'm glad my city didn't get it... but it's Orlando. We get World cup level travelers every two weeks.
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UrsaMajor7th5 days ago
+182
$3k for the game ticket, $75k for the US hospital stay.
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Same_Win_58985 days ago
+75
Only 3 days in hospital ?
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UrsaMajor7th5 days ago
+18
Gotta maximize those ICU beds; demand will be high.
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BadahBingBadahBoom5 days ago
+26
$75k for a hospital stay?
Bargain (for the US that is).
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Dry_Departure_78135 days ago
+58
Don't worry, I'm sure someone extremely competent is in charge of public health in the US. Its not like they'd put a heroin junky in charge right
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RobsterCrawSoup5 days ago
+73
Maybe the fascism scaring away traveling fans was a good thing after all.
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Psychological-Wrap255 days ago
+45
Shieeeeeeeeeeeet
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teddyKGB-5 days ago
+6
I'ma take hantavirus if someone just giving it away
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1877KlownsForKids5 days ago
+19
Thankfully we have steady hands on the ship of state!
....oh
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Ok-Blood43405 days ago
+8
The steadiest hands possible. As steady as a man twice his age, his doctor said.
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Golden_Hour15 days ago
+29
I live in one of the cities. Please cancel this super spreader event. Otherwise im f****** fleeing the country f*** that
Edit: its over a month long??? Bro f*** this shit!
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MgDark5 days ago
+16
And people were losing their shit by having to quarantine two weeks on COVID. Is going to be fun /s
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Sanvi-775 days ago
+362
Apparently the Dutch stewardess from the KLM flight has tested negative.
So that's a good sign.
On the other hand, two more Britons have tested positive,
Sources:
[Nederlandse stewardess test negatief op hantavirus, wel meer Britse besmettingen](https://nos.nl/artikel/2613552-nederlandse-stewardess-test-negatief-op-hantavirus-wel-meer-britse-besmettingen) (Dutch)
[UKHSA update on the hantavirus cruise ship outbreak - GOV.UK](https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ukhsa-update-on-the-hantavirus-cruise-ship-outbreak) (English)
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Protato9005 days ago
+139
WHO still says that she may test positive in the coming weeks. It's not guaranteed yet.
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Total-Check59575 days ago
+84
It was the same with Covid, people tested negative for the first week and then got a positive
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Jive-Mind4 days ago
+29
Yeah, COVID incubation time was anywhere between 2 and 14 days. Now the experts are saying hantavirus is up to 8 weeks.
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reddituseronebillion5 days ago
+60
Why are we even testing people. Those numbers go to 0 if we don't test.
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Spiritual-Matters4 days ago
+43
Trump would like to offer you a job
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FrohenLeid5 days ago
+2155
The thing that scares me is how fast we went from "yeah it can't be carried by humans" "ok this special strain can be but requires close contact and there's only 5 cases globally" to "ok there is an unknown amount of people possibly infected"
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MidnightIDK5 days ago
+1066
Now where have I seen this before
1066
VioletThunderX5 days ago
+120
I can’t do another pandemic in my lifetime
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darkpheonix2624 days ago
+68
Nature be like 'you can and you will"
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VioletThunderX4 days ago
+27
How do I unsubscribe
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WhySayManyWordGancho5 days ago
+203
The last of us! Episode two, Rachel Weisz' brother from the movies tells us if the thing adapts to humans we're fuxked! :)
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According_Button_1865 days ago
+74
We need Brendan Fraiser to make a career switch from mummies to cordyceps, ASAP
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reireireis4 days ago
+5
That's just walking dead with mushrooms
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TripleSmokedBacon5 days ago
+139
I lived in a small, rural Northern California for a number of years. Where I lived, we were in the mountains. If it wasn't for the ticks which carried Lyme and deceptively cute deer mice that carried Hanta - it would have been one of the safest places I've ever been in my life.
We were all well aware of both diseases, and the local and regional health clinics were well-prepared to deal with each. Example: I once had the dread bulls-eye develop on my leg, and had to go on Doxycycline for 30 days. Obtaining it was as easy as the physician slapping a bottle in my hand and warning me to stay out of sun light.
Deer mice were everywhere and got into everything unless extraordinary measures were taken. Well, our dear neighbour decided to just sweep out and clean his storage shed but forgot his mask.. so he said f*** it.
He was out of commission for 2 weeks with little ability to care for himself. When I finally saw him, he not only looked wrung out (thin, pale, fatigued) but his eyes... holy f***.. they were two, bloody little cherries that floated in his thin face. He said he almost died and had never been in more pain, nor been more sick. He got himself a proper N95 after that and never FAFO again. His luck was super bad because very, very few people catch it over a 10-year period (in that area) - like almost none.
I absolutely can't imagine what would have happened if this guy could have transmitted what he had to others :-/
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/CDPH%20Document%20Library/CountyofExposureforReportedHantavirus.pdf
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roberta_sparrow5 days ago
+12
I had to clean out the storage in my parents house on Long Island and we found tons of mouse droppings. I wore my N95 but was still so nervous
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Old_news1234565 days ago
+27
Reminds me of Covid just before March break 2020.
Everyone calm down! Nothing to see!
Suddenly after March break we're closing the schools.
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sharkbait-oo-haha4 days ago
+10
There were signs well before March 2020. My first "oh f***" moment was in mid-late January, when I saw a security camera footage of a hospital putting 2 children into 1 body bag. All the staff were covered head to toe in ppe and standing on the other side of the room, physically as far away from the 2 dead kids as they could get.
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T8ert0t5 days ago
+107
January 2020 vibes
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kindnesswillkillyou5 days ago
+38
Exactly. And we have all seen this show before.
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Nerdfighter45 days ago
+7
Who are the fuckers who let everyone off the cruiseship because they had no symptoms
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AffectionateCows4evr5 days ago
+5
Also they are publicizing a 6 week incubation instead of the 8 week that is generally accepted. Seems like bad and stupid intentions
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SuperCooch914 days ago
+5
Yep, every article I’ve seen about it seems to indicate that it’s more out of control than before. Awesome.
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Nextmastermind5 days ago
+2025
Hopefully the high mortality rate means it will burn itself out? Not hoping for deaths mind you.
2025
Bulky_Cranberry7025 days ago
+2072
With an up to 8 week incubation, that's where the problem lies.
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ZealousidealExit8655 days ago
+772
You have a small window where it can be transmitted. By then the person who has it is very sick.
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tinny666665 days ago
+672
That was the early word but:
>4.2 INFECTIOUS PERIOD (NEW SECTION)
>The infectious period for Andes virus is a critical parameter for defining valid exposures and guiding contact tracing. Available evidence indicates that transmission may occur:
>\- From 2 days prior to symptom onset, and
>\- Up to 5 days after onset of fever, with extended risk (up to 15 days) in high-risk exposure scenarios involving close contact or fluid exchange (Argentina Ministry of Health, 2025).
>All exposure assessments must therefore be restricted to this defined transmission window to ensure epidemiological accuracy.
This new section was just added yesterday at [https://www.nicd.ac.za/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/Hantavirus-contact-SOP-V3.1.pdf](https://www.nicd.ac.za/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/Hantavirus-contact-SOP-V3.1.pdf)
It is a bit tricky to find details on the infectious period but it may be quite long.
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katarina-stratford5 days ago
+279
***Jaws music becomes louder***
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Ok-Confidence96495 days ago
+58
I think the phrase the kids keep using lately is “the saxophones are getting louder” 😅
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Rizen_Wolf5 days ago
+388
Ahh yes... the old "COVID is NOT airborne." March 2020 UNO reverse card!
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eypandabear5 days ago
+222
Tbf Covid literally led to a redefinition of what airborne infection means.
Previously, there was a distinction between droplet and airborne infection. It was believed that the infectious droplets were too heavy to remain aerosolised long enough. In reality, there is a wide size distribution and some percentage of droplets is light enough to persist in the air.
It was always known that *some* diseases could be transmitted like this, such as measles and chickenpox. But other droplet infections (like the flu) were not classified as such because they typically require closer contact.
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Fisher90015 days ago
+72
COVID isn't airborne in the sense that it persists in the air exhaled from lungs itself. It persists in the droplets of saline ejected from the mouth when talking or coughing. That's why masks were so important despite right wing attacking them so much.
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Golden_Hour15 days ago
+79
It was so predictable. Including all the comments downplaying it saying it wouldnt become a pandemic because it doesn't spread well
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tical_5 days ago
+53
Yo summers coming and if we expose it to sunlight it'll be sweet. Zero cases by August
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chaotebg5 days ago
+32
Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous light? Whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light?
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tical_5 days ago
+24
I was thinking.... Have we tried.... Bleaching the bodies
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becomingarobot5 days ago
+10
No no, we need to bring the light -IN- the body!
10
candyappleorchard5 days ago
+9
I mean, prolonged sunlight exposure is known to deactivate hantavirus on surfaces so this is actually useful this time lol
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flaming_burrito_5 days ago
+26
Yeah, I was very confused that they tried to make it sound non-airborne at first. They said something like “it’s not airborne, it spreads through the transmission of aerosolized fluid droplets from an infected person”. And I was thinking, like, isn’t that just f****** breath? Aerosolized fluid is water vapor, which is part of what you breathe out bruh, it’s in the f****** air. It felt like the WHO thought if they added some big words most people wouldn’t understand what they were saying lol
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PxyFreakingStx5 days ago
+21
it's just about how long the particles can stay in the air. airborne never meant the the virus itself without being attached to some liquid would float through the air. airborne meant it could float around in the air for quite a while, but droplet was too big, so it wouldn't.
21
JConRed5 days ago
+95
But people will be dumb as duck and say.... "Buuuuh it's such a short window compared to the long weeks incubation."
The weeks incubation make this worse - because the patient goes from totally fine, to totally sick in the course of a day or two. But becomes infectious 2 days before that.
Think about how many people someone who works interacts with in 2 days. Then then think about how many people will go to work even when they are sick.
This needs to be contained while it still can be.
Someone else a few days ago posted that to strain of the andes variant had a R0=2.12 in a certain setting.
That's not suuuuper high. But it's still doubling.
(note, I'm sick in bed - all this is rambling thoughts, and I have not done in depth reading myself.)
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pagerussell5 days ago
+61
COVID r naught ended up being between 2 and 3, so this isn't all that far behind it.
I think a big thing we don't know yet is if you can transmit while asymptomatic. Because that was a big problem for COVID, people would walk around and never get symptoms and be spreading it like crazy.
Like, the reason ebola doesn't go wild is because when you can spread it you are also kinda sorta bleeding out of your eyes, and that makes it pretty easy to spot.
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JConRed5 days ago
+35
All I'm reading is 2 days spread asymptomatic, worst spread on first day of symptoms, then a taper.
But I can't say whether that was determined due to actual viral load whether it's factored in, that the patient is being less mobile once the symptoms set in.
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Telen5 days ago
+6
I also can't say whether I'd like to take my chances on that tapering period either, which could last even up to a week.
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Swarna_Keanu5 days ago
+6
>This needs to be contained while it still can be.
Which means quarantines and potential lockdowns in the absence of a vaccine. I am not sure there's more willingness to cooperate on that, then there was when Covid started.
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JConRed5 days ago
+91
A patient can transmit before they have symptoms, up to 2 days prior.
Then the first days of infection are flu-like. It turns REALLY nasty at day 4-6 of symptoms.
The highest infectivity is noted on the first day of symptom onset. So when the patient is living life like normal.
So there's several days worth of infective time when the patient still is active and mobile.
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NaCl-more5 days ago
+52
Wasn’t this basically how Covid started as? And then it mutated to lower mortality but higher number of transmissions per infection
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BeefyBoi6_95 days ago
+53
It did that well after folks got infected and the virus had been established , maybe about 2 years after it was a global pandemic. It was rapidly mutating at first but it didnt start getting milder until the year 2, the current issue it has tho is long covid.
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TroglodyteToes5 days ago
+20
Yea, and long covid is an absolutely nightmare for everyone I know that is experiencing it. Medically "fine" as far as tests go, but wracked by constant episodes of exhaustion and inability to do anything. It sucks.
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hates_stupid_people5 days ago
+7
Anyone who's touched Plague Inc. or similar know just how bad that can be(or good in the game).
---
For those who have not: It's a game about trying to spread some sort of disease to humans across the world via mutations(ability points) and finishing when either side is has wiped out the other. The most well known winning tactic is to start with something that has a long incubation period, very few early symptoms, then spread it from a place that has a well traveled port and traveling hubs across land and/or air.
Cape Verde is a common stopping point across the southern part of the Atlantic. It has multiple international airports that have a quarter to over a million passengers a year, each. And that's not mentioning all the ships that stop by, with hundreds of thousands of ocean faring passengers.
TL;DR: It has the potential to become *bad*, if it is not taken seriously.
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endisnearhere5 days ago
+62
I’m down for a 3 month lockdown if this shit pops off
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MrClickstoomuch5 days ago
+60
My workplace went back to mandatory work in office again the last two months and I absolutely despise it after being hybrid with 80% if not more at home. Needing to waste an hour commuting if no traffic, an hour and a half with traffic each day is such a waste of time.
I'd love to have it push back to work from home / hybrid again, but I'm guessing the US is the last place that will do it now.
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ShirwillJack5 days ago
+24
After 2 years of 100% work from home my employer made 40-60% WFH mandatory for office staff, because they saw the reduced costs of having less office space and cut 40% of office space. But everyone on the team needs to be in the office on the same days. If you leave your flex work space to go to a meeting, it will be taken by the time you get back.
"We'd like to be able to work from home more."
"We can do that, but we'll make it shitty."
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Justin_Passing_74655 days ago
+11
My organization is still 100% remote. We are ready for another pandemic, with no scrambling to make any changes. Another pandemic might make it clear that this is a competitive advantage that companies can no longer afford to throw away.
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LengthinessOk81885 days ago
+7
Smart. I bet it’s a successful company in other ways too, all because leadership practices basic levels of public health consideration.
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MyOwnInception5 days ago
+245
That's the problem with this Hantavirus, Andes version, people start spreading it and feeling sick at the very same time. So there can be at least 1 day or 2 where they feel barely sick at all, mark it as a common cold, and go about there day infecting people via close contact. It can be spread via humans as the genome markup showed in the 2018 Argentina outbreak. It may not linger in the air as long as Sars-Cov2 or Measles can for hours but it can still be spread through droplets and aersol.
Same with the 1996 outbreak where doctors noticed victims were not in contact with rodents or the virus resevoir/origin point.
But the little data we have supposedly shows that it's R0 doesn't remain the same after a couple of human hops and begins to get weaker after multiple infections, so maybe it can stay as a dead zoo virus with high mortality rate not meant for humans.
The incubation period and latency median period are the same amount of time of 18 days.
Unless it mutates?
The most important part I am wondering about is that it becomes infectious and contagious at the same time people have the onset of sickness. And we know many people either will still go to their jobs, social gatherings, etc if they feel only slightly sick, and that's when this Hantavirus is the most infectious.
It probably will not be another pandemic. But I also wonder why they let 40 people get off the cruise to go out and travel freely wherever they went right after some died of an "unknown" mystery sickness.
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TastyMission49335 days ago
+43
"The most important part I am wondering about is that it becomes infectious and contagious at the same time people have the onset of sickness. And we know many people either will still go to their jobs, social gatherings, etc if they feel only slightly sick, and that's when this Hantavirus is the most infectious."
This is the most fucked up part though. 'I know I'm feeling sick, but I'm already through all of my sick days. I'll just come in to work'
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midnight_fisherman5 days ago
+105
>It probably will not be another pandemic. But I also wonder why they let 40 people get off the cruise to go out and travel freely wherever they went right after some died of an "unknown" mystery sickness.
Yupp, and any infected passengers might be passing infectious waste into the sewer systems, which could expose the native rodent populations of these destinations to the virus.
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Nervous_Pea_81495 days ago
+8
It wasnt even known that the Hantavirus caused the infections and deaths on the cruise.
8
Cagnazzo825 days ago
+19
The extended incubation rate would make it a potential disaster under this administration... and its hostility towards caution and the medical industry.
All the pieces for a perfect storm disaster are now in place.
Let's hope the worst doesn't play out at this particular moment. But if this were a movie...
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seanbeagan5 days ago
+425
Looks like it's going to be a slow burn
425
Epirocker5 days ago
+1788
Every time Trump has been in the middle to end of his presidency there’s been some kind of outbreak. Which has only been twice. But it’s weird it’s happened twice.
1788
mayorlazor5 days ago
+588
We are only 1/3 of the way through his term.
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Intoxicating_Piss_695 days ago
+232
Then we are technically in the middle of his presidency if you split it into 3 different parts.
0-33.3%: Early presidency
33.3-66.6%: Middle presidency
66.6-100%: Late presidency
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Red_Mammoth5 days ago
+41
Depends if he finishes the full term technically
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Just_Periwinkle5 days ago
+17
😵💫
17
PaxDramaticus5 days ago
+159
Given his administration's irrational antagonism against established health science, it's weird that it's *only* happened twice.
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Jumanji4ever5 days ago
+71
God striking us with plagues for “our” ignorance
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pagerussell5 days ago
+34
And funny enough, even if he came down from heaven to explain it, the dumb fucks in the south still wouldn't believe it.
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Infamous_Alpaca5 days ago
+5
I think the world is more connected now because people travel so much more, which makes frequent pandemics more likely. We’ve seen major outbreaks about every five years recently: Swine flu in 2009, Ebola in 2014, and COVID-19 in 2019.
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[deleted]5 days ago
+116
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Juan_Punch_Man5 days ago
+53
There is no hantavirus in Bah Sing Se.
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prodigy13675 days ago
+386
RFK Jr. is on the case!
386
Sad-Platypus-485 days ago
+86
He will slowly croak his way through the press conference'
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CCV215 days ago
+28
Don't forget wheezing.
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goodra35 days ago
+6
He will say he’s not sure how many untold people will die the from vaccine if they develop one while also saying don’t trust me I’m not a health expert or a doctor when it comes time to implement any useful countermeasures. When it’s time to be anti science, he’s an expert. When it’s time to listen to actual experts and scientists, he’s certain these vaccines have killed untold millions… an inanimate object would be a safer bet than him in any position of power regarding public health.
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Geschak5 days ago
+18
Don't worry, he'll treat it with raw milk and racoon roadkill.
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HRJafael5 days ago
+1249
Anyone else getting insane late 2019 flashbacks?
1249
blackcatpandora5 days ago
+760
Not til china starts sped building hospitals again
760
IrritatedAvians5 days ago
+689
I knew Covid was going to be a big deal when there were news reports of the Chinese welding the doors shut on apartment blocks to keep people inside to try to contain the spread.
689
IDr3yI5 days ago
+339
I knew COVID was gonna be a big deal when they started saying we shouldn't be eating ass
339
007meow5 days ago
+131
And instead promoted glory holes as a healthy alternative
131
MelissaMiranti5 days ago
+32
Sometimes my city makes me proud.
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Cavscout28385 days ago
+4
Yarrr, cursed be the man that winks the brown eye in the hole of glory,
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FreshRestart235 days ago
+30
Wasn’t that monkeypox?
Edit: Not that it really f****** matters 😂
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aesirmazer5 days ago
+40
Our provincial health care leadership straight up said that glory holes were a good way to limit the spread of COVID. It wasn't an STI and there was no close up breathing. She talked a bit about how she could be politically correct and allude to them but decided anyone who needed the advice would be better served with plain language.
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inthisalone_5 days ago
+7
Yo, what province was this in? lol
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SteinersMathTeacher5 days ago
+15
BC, Canada. There was an infographic on the government’s website with best practices to reduce the spread, and specifically talked about glory holes and using positions where there’s no face to face contact. Hilarious shit honestly.
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po3smith5 days ago
+35
When Disney closes pure money making parks . . .you know $hit is gonna hit the fan.
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ghsteo5 days ago
+42
For me it was when the NBA actually cancelled games. No way billionaires were going to risk losing money unless it was something serious.
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LawLayLewLayLow5 days ago
+7
I had a friend living there during that time during October-November period and their streets were a ghost town.
7
McRibs20245 days ago
+73
That’s the report that stuck with me.
Told my kids to prep for virtual learning and everyone said I was jumping the gun.
We went virtual very shortly after. Wild fucken times that was.
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KeepItPositiveBrah5 days ago
+11
Last time I went to eat a few clearly sick coughing women kept saying "its allergies" world shut down a week later
11
Zealousideal-Toe19115 days ago
+53
Lol... "Told my kids to prep for virtual learning"... What exactly did you want them to do differently from that point on
53
mashburn715 days ago
+12
Cancelling the NBA season was my eye opener
12
Mrhyderager5 days ago
+19
The memes will tell the tale. If I start seeing hantavirus cough memes we're cooked. Late 2019 we were posting memes about Asians coughing and then we got clapped
19
Wildstonecz5 days ago
+8
While spamming public announcements that everything is fine and there is nothing to worry about.
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StarWars_and_SNL5 days ago
+10
That’s when I started buying jigsaw puzzles the last time around.
10
ZealousidealExit8655 days ago
+129
No, this virus burns much hotter than covid and isn't as easily transmissible. However no death from this should br dismissed.
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Mixander5 days ago
+40
What I can think of as a potential problem is if it then jump to local rodent population and spread there. Hanta is not fatal to rodent so they can shed the virus their entire life to spread it among them, and when it jump back again to human it can create a random point of breakout at random time and place.
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ODaysForDays5 days ago
+26
It's BEEN in the rodent population. Mouse droppings are how most cases start.
26
RiPPeR694205 days ago
+69
Depends on how transmissible it ends up. And how quickly it mutates. The sky isn't falling but there are more then a few clouds out there. The worse case scenario is it made the jump to being airborne and it has an 8 week incubation period. That'll burn quick but hit hard. Because with a 50% mortality rate, it won't be hard to convince people to hunker down for a few months. Except maybe in MAGAland. But that problem solves itself pretty quick.
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uiemad5 days ago
+70
To my knowledge this isn't a new virus though. It's been around a while but it's not spreading around like wildfire in the country it originated in. It's had all the time in the world to mutate for an increased transmission rate and it hasn't yet and there's just little reason to believe it'll do so now.
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Sexual_Congressman5 days ago
+4
I haven't seen any evidence this is an airborne strain. Sounds like it's spreading exactly the same way it always has and the same way any other fomite transmitted virus spreads. Some old guy gets infected several weeks before boarding a cruise ship with a very leisurely itinerary. When he coughs, vomits, and shits all over the confined cruise ship before subsequently dying, a bunch of people get exposed to the virus. Presumably the wife and other cases with serious symptoms had massive exposure doses that basically guaranteed the shortest possible incubation period and highest possible risk of a bad outcome.
A cruise ship is really the perfect environment for outbreaks and I wouldn't be surprised if it happens all the time and the only reason this is newsworthy is it's f****** hantavirus. I can't think of a more infamous extant virus except maybe ebola.
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griphookk5 days ago
+42
No. This isn’t a similar situation to Covid. This hantavirus (Andes virus) is not a new virus, there are generally 100-200 cases a year in Argentina and have been for decades.
People with it also aren’t contagious until they start showing symptoms, thankfully.
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arand0md00d5 days ago
+14
Probably closer to SARS1 outbreak in 2003 than SARS2 in 2019.
14
NorthernSkeptic5 days ago
+123
hey do you reckon just sending everyone home from the disease ship and saying “guess we’ll see” was the best move?
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BrokenIvor5 days ago
+42
The passengers got off before it was known that hantavirus was the culprit.
The cruise is a polar adventure style cruise that has legs of the journey people can do. Some will do bye whole journey and others will get off at different stages. 30 people got off on St Helena island on the 24th of April (including patient 0 who died on the 11th of April after becoming sick on the 6th). I believe at that point the second round of illness had only just started.
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Fedexed5 days ago
+47
This is what I can't understand, it was contained on the boat, why did they just let everyone go
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Midnight-God5 days ago
+329
With the CDC all but defunded, fema gutted, WHO being sidelined by the world rich and the push against medicine...
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Coffee13925 days ago
+57
We’re in great hands! /s
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horrbort5 days ago
+12
Maybe we could get some b-tier celebs sing a song, would that help?
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MentokGL5 days ago
+52
Nah just don't report on them and it'll be great
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TrackVol5 days ago
+574
Wait, wait..
We have a much better president in charge this time around...
We're so fucked.
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CCV215 days ago
+299
At least we have career health officials like Dr. Fauci...
Nevermind.
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CrapLikeThat5 days ago
+200
No reason to be alarmed, RFK Junior is working on a cure derived from ground, dried raccoon penises.
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Friendly_Job69995 days ago
+27
Hes making a tincture from whale brains
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Only_Manav5 days ago
+37
Oh my f****** god. I somehow completely forgot that RFK jr. is a thing. God this recession is going to be soul crushing
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CCV215 days ago
+12
One might say it could cause great depression amongst many people.
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PuddlesRex5 days ago
+77
Well, there's pestilence. We already have war. Famine is right around the corner with fertilizer shortages.
Let's go, I suppose?
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TDAPoP5 days ago
+37
Yeah but at least the president doesn't have a weird laugh, right?
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Knees0ck5 days ago
+297
The scary part is the rampant measles which already fucks up your immune system. Diseases are being left to spread deliberately. Diseases we could easily take care off, no less.
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EagleForty5 days ago
+306
It's not a coincidence that every time America elects the anti-Christ, Pestilence returns.
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Superb-Farmer14115 days ago
+41
The Four Horsemen road his coattails back into the White House.
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hostile655 days ago
+45
It is all on purpose, the rich want to cull the flock just in time for Ai to do the jobs of the killed off poors.
Class warfare
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Kirarifluff5 days ago
+12
when society collapses the rich won’t have much power though. can use money to control if money loses its value
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Loki-L5 days ago
+64
In related news:
[Cruise Ship Passengers Face Rising Infection Risks After Trump Administration Axed All Full-Time CDC Vessel Inspectors](https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/norovirus-outbreaks-cruise-ships-cdc-staffing-cuts-1795652)
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Adorable-Database1875 days ago
+28
I really hate this timeline.
>The Trump administration has scrapped all full-time civilian inspectors responsible for cruise ship hygiene during an unprecedented spike in Norovirus outbreaks.
Under the direction of Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr, the CDC Vessel Sanitation Programme (VSP) has been gutted of its professional civilian workforce. This move leaves a skeleton crew of just 12 officers to monitor the health and safety of millions of international travellers.
The CDC cruise ship inspection cuts come at a critical moment, as a highly transmissible new strain of norovirus triggers a record number of gastrointestinal incidents on major vessels.
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KindToSpiteTheCruel5 days ago
+367
I had to write my will at 30 when I got Covid. I got sick and never got better and developed a life altering neurological disorder. My body’s so fragile now that vaccines will send me to the ER.
I’m terrified I won’t survive another pandemic.
Please, please let this blow over. I have too many people to take care of.
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Malofa5 days ago
+118
Due to the nature of transmission, this is very unlikely to cause another pandemic. Keep an eye on it for sure, there's little reason to panic.
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kirbcake-inuinuinuko5 days ago
+152
i wasn't even remotely concerned about this before, but the PR "don't panic guys we 100% have this under control but won't rule anything out just in case" speak from officials i've been seeing is seriously starting to concern me.
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Free_Pace_20985 days ago
+19
Hey we're not doing this again thanks. I'm still all fucked up from last time.
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not_right5 days ago
+63
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andes_virus
Just for anyone like me who hasn't paid much attention so far
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smilon15 days ago
+64
> Human-to-human transmission was first reported in an outbreak in 1996 in El Bolsón, Argentina. Since then, sporadic outbreaks with reported person-to-person transmission have occurred.
Most important part.
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Golden_Hour15 days ago
+34
Those outbreaks were contained within the same area
This has already gone global
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CornerSad80205 days ago
+36
Because it happened on a cruise ship, not because it became more infectious.
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medium0rare5 days ago
+55
I’m glad the US left the WHO so we don’t have to worry about these sorts of announcements /s
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whiterice_3435 days ago
+97
Should have sent them to an island
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spyglass3525 days ago
+23
in space
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mcbeardsauce5 days ago
+11
Perfect timing for the World Cup
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Tight_Jellyfish_3495 days ago
+33
I have to fly next month. Masks in airport and plane.
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Only--East5 days ago
+36
You should be doing that anyways, tbh.
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Mediocre_Basket61625 days ago
+10
trump 2/2 for virus outbreaks
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+37
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FluffyPantsMcGee5 days ago
+19
If 2026 had a sound..
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SoupMan895 days ago
+9
Hasn't Hantavirus been around forever? Dude died in Washington last year from it.
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einimea5 days ago
+9
Yes, there are different strains. This Andes strain is the only Hantavirus that can spread from human to human, though it's said not to be very infectious, even though fatality rate is about 40%
The most common Hantavirus in my country is the Puumala strain, its fatality rate is less than 1% and it's spread by bank voles
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Inevitable-Winter-645 days ago
+4
Yeah, I think people are just a bit paranoid post-Covid. In reality, even with human-to-human transmission, Hantavirus doesn't spread effectively enough to cause a pandemic.
I definitely empathize with people, but I wish we could put our energy and concern into something that \*does\* have a massive impact, like neglected tropical diseases.
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Solo_Camping_Girl5 days ago
+36
well, the good thing is, the high gas prices means people will be travelling less. But unlike 2020, the fatality rate of the Hantavirus [is higher ](https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/hantavirus)than covid
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maybelying5 days ago
+39
Major cities in Canada, the US and Mexico are going to be inundated with international travelers next month for the World Cup...
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thegamenerd5 days ago
+6
With a 6-8 week incubation time, a few days of being contagious without showing symptoms, and a few days of being infectious where it feels like a mild cold, we've got the potential for a major storm brewing...
yay.
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gettingtgere5 days ago
+9
I don’t want another lock down. People please stay safe and keep safe distance if you see someone sick.
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ghost_in_the_potato5 days ago
+8
Oh boy, I would really rather not do this again.
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Impossible-Ground-985 days ago
+7
every time I open Listnook there's a new article about it, and the periods are extended
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Soleks20005 days ago
+7
How long till donald starts telling people to drink bleach to fight it
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DesignerCorner33225 days ago
+7
Who had a second pandemic within a decade on their bingo card?
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sulleynz19895 days ago
+6
I think I've seen this film before
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Ktan_Dantaktee5 days ago
+11
God: “So the first plague wasn’t enough of a sign that I hate these pedophiles, huh.”
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IAMSNORTFACED5 days ago
+15
Will WHO ever tell us to start worrying? Or that they have little control over the situation?
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+23
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Golden_Hour15 days ago
+11
These organizations are literally trained to keep the public from panicking by being vague
Of course its fucked
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Filthyquak5 days ago
+24
Why do we only read how bad this is and never that the WHO itself literally said that the risk of a worldwide pandemic is very very small.
When covid came up first every relevant institution clearly warned from the risk of a pandemic.
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+16
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narium5 days ago
+61
At this point I feel they’re slow dripping the bad news and in a day or two we’ll find out that it’s airborne.
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thisrockismyboone5 days ago
+11
This news isnt new news.
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DefiantTry70064 days ago
+6
Morons unite and get this shit show really firing on all cylinders. 50% mortality rate for Hantavirus there will be no vaccine to complain about.
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heratonga5 days ago
+9
Anyone ever play the old pandemic game on the computer, it was always the slow burners that really got the casualty rates up
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PhantasmologicalAnus5 days ago
+30
They ALL should still be on the ship. Why the f*** were they allowed off?
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Sad-Side-87045 days ago
+13
Not til “we will be back in office in two weeks” hits
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