Gulf allies privately make the case to Trump to keep fighting until Iran is decisively defeated

They are free to send their sons there to fight

Gulf allies privately goad drunk friend into doing a backflip off the roof.

This benefits them because most of the allied nations in the area have realized that the whole "death to Israel" thing can get in the way of profits and prestige. Getting rid of the large hardliner religious country in the area is something they'd be okay with as long as they don't have to do it. It's like a neighborhood that's gentrified the entire block except one house which refuses to sell ... they don't want to look like _the bad guys_ but they'll gladly get all sorts of agencies involved in doing the work for them.

> Officials from Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Kuwait and Bahrain have conveyed in private conversations that they do not want the military operation to end until there are significant changes in the Iranian leadership or there’s a dramatic shift in Iranian behavior, Why don't they say it publicly? > The Saudis say an eventual war settlement must neutralize Iran’s nuclear program, destroy its ballistic missile capabilities, end Tehran’s support for proxy groups, and also ensure that the Strait of Hormuz cannot be effectively shutdown by the Islamic Republic in the future as it has during the conflict. Well good luck for that because that strait can be closed by any state with a few drones. The only way to protect it is with negotiations. I guess they could be able to do the rest in a long war but defending the strait is virtually impossible. > “An Iranian regime that launches ballistic missiles at homes, weaponizes global trade and supports proxies is no longer an acceptable feature of the regional landscape,” Noura Al Kaabi, a minister of state at the UAE’s Foreign Ministry, wrote Oh looks like they're able to say it publicly. So what now? They expect the US to do the job?

Aka "you started this shit, you better finish it"

The true cost of receiving a ‘free’ luxury jet becomes apparent.

They should send their armies into Iran then.

So far our gulf allies have done nothing except cover their own asses and they can’t even do that right given how much is getting blown up.

And what exactly is anyone's idea to re-open the Strait of Hormuz?

The king of deals strikes again. For the low price of a $400million jet and investing in his crypto scam, Americans get to foot the bill for a $2billion a day war.

How long are we going to be lap dogs to these fuckers?

Interesting article from a trusted source such as AP News. Iran is the largest and most populated gulf state and has been destabizing to the region for 50 years and while other states haven't embraced democratic rule they have accepted some forms of capitalism, tourism, international trade and investment, looking to the future. Look at Dubai as an example. The unsaid headline isn't they support the toppling of Iran, they support it if the U.S. spends billions and years doing it for them instead.

They want the US to defeat Iran so they can move in and claim the oil.

It's insanity. A no-win scenario. Iran is the point on which this whole thing is balanced. They're the ones that decide the war is over, either by getting the concessions they're after, or by collapsing. The US doesn't really get a vote at this point. Even if they stop and back off, Iran certainly isn't going to. The Saudis are hurting under present conditions, to put it mildly, but they also can't afford an escalation. If the US starts gathering up the hundreds of thousands of soldiers needed for an invasion, they'll be staging them in Gulf countries, and Iran will absolutely hit the escalation button and throw everything they've got at desalination and other vital water infrastructure. Same if they cut off Iran's oil exports.  If the US bails, Iran still dominates the strait. If they give in, Iran wins, and gets the concessions they're after, and the Gulf states really do not want an ascendant Iran across from them. The only real bet for the Saudis is to grin and bear the pain, and hope the present pace of bombings and assassinations is enough to break the regime. Authoritarian regimes may always look pretty solid, but that's right up until they collapse. I've yet to see any evidence that it'll take anything less than a massive ground effort to topple the IRGC, but hey, we don't get the full picture (clearly world leaders don't either, unfortunately). So yeah, this whole situation is screwed. The only thing the Gulf states can really do is encourage the US to keep up the present pressure, because there are no other palatable options.

Whomever gives the Trump family the most cash will decide.

If it’s so private why the column? Maybe, not so private.

They could all invade together and actually do a regime change. They won't because they all hate each other but they could. Israel won't even be the tail of the spear. History books aren't even remotely gonna be able to sane wash this shit.

Not surprising that all of the countries that have sent him and his family billions wants to protect their assets by having him fight thier wars.

Gulf "allies": "Let's you and him fight!"

It has long been publically known that the IRCG policy in the even of an attack is to ensure that neibouring nations suffered a similar pain to whatever was inflicted on Iran (their version of MAD). This policy orginiates, not in fear of the USA or Israel, but due to realistic concerns as a majority Shi'a nation of an attack by a, then superiorly armed, Sunni nation (namely Saudi Arabia or their proxies).

"Privately", but sure, they informed AP News.

Translation: we want you to do the dirty work for us

They bought the President of the United States, they get to tell him what to do. If we want the president to work for the US we have to buy him a luxury 747, buy $3B Trump coins, and rent out his hotels without using them, give his son-in-law a few billion for his private equity fund, and give him a golf series.

I think they missed the word ‘bribe’ out there. Troops will die in an unpopular war for this man baby’s greed.

None of them are allies, every one of those countries is hostile to the USA and is just using us

Send Baron, have him lead the gulf allies’ sons and daughters with boots on the ground, into the war.

I feel very sorry for those poor American boys that will have to give their life for this war of choice. For absolutely nothing. No one deserves to have their life tossed away on a whim.

listnook refuses to comprehend how awful iran has been to the entire region. saudi arabia was lobbying for the war in the first place. but none of that fits the narrative.

Privately make their case = give over money I guess

“Rich man’s war. Poor man’s fight.” 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Wait, I thought Iran was already defeated, for like the third time? Do we need to defeat them even further?

But I thought the US already won, they’re just sticking around for shits n gigs now?

"More protracted foreign wars!" -Trump | Vance 2024

They sure made their bribes public though even if the requests are private.

Use the US to take the hit, if it doesn’t work they don’t loos3va lot of troops and equipment.

Privately?

I guess they aren't worried about drinking water. Good luck with that.

The grifting continues for the regime of America.

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The case is simple. We fail into economic collapse.

They really are getting him to make the US do their dirty work at the expense of the American taxpayer.

It's a pretty simple equation - either the US can protect Gulf states or it can't. If the US can't protect Gulf state, then the US can't have bases in Gulf states - and the Gulf states make an agreement with Iran for their safety. Any agreement of that type is going to include sanctions against the US government and Gulf states suddenly stop being friendly to US interests, and stop buying US hardware. US influence dissapears in the Middle East.

They just put a couple of $billions in Kushners account to make it happen. He is the puppet master.

So, the gulf states are using Trump to further their religious war. Trump doesn't have enough braincells left to know when he's being used. Trump the Chump.

Then perhaps they can replace us in their fight.

How big is his secret Qatari bank account?

That’s bold call … if they ramp this up and Iran retaliates, you can expect most of the Middle East to be cut off from water, causing a massive humanitarian crisis.

The monarchies will fall and emigrate to the USA. Trump will have wealthy ex-monarchs living next to him in Florida in exile if they escape alive.

As much as this war sucks right now there is one point worth considering. Iran has the ability to choke the entire global economy through the strait of Hormuz. They also are a psychopathic country that is enamoured to fund and promote terrorism around the world. *if* they were ever to develop a nuclear power, they’d be able to do what they’re doing now with the threat of launching a nuke if anyone were to try and stop them. That would be a horrible world to live in and it underscores why it really is true that they cannot be allowed to develop or attain nuclear weapons and ICBMs. I’m not saying it means the war right now at this time and in this manner is justified, just that it can’t be forgotten. The world would be better off if Iran had no control over any major trade route and also did not have even the remote possibility of obtaining a nuke.

No duh, they want their missile and drone spamming madman of a neighbor neutralized after what they've done. The gulf states many of whom used to be neutral or even friendly to Iran will now never again feel safe with an unpacified Iran. The Iranian regime ruined all soft power they had in the region for the next hundred years by attacking their neighbors, all of whom had nothing even to do with the US attacks, they didn't even allow them use of airfields or overflight over their territory (initial airstrikes came all from carrier based aircraft) *until* Iran started attacking them and pushed them into league with the US and Israel, and compressed a hundred years' worth of Israeli-Arab relations normalization into a month.

Breaking News: Sunni and Shia have been slaughtering each other since 632 CE and would like to continue doing that by any means necessary.

Uncle Sap always there when you need us

Of course they want that. That is obvious. Are they going to pay for it though?

We're going to have boots on the ground over there for 20 years again aren't we?

they are all using him to do their dirty work, while he thinks he's their hero.

"Please keep using your money, bodies, and equipment so we can become more dominant in the region."

Well yeah, they haven't even done half a job yet. They're retreating and calling it a win.

It makes sense for them to want this now. They've already suffered most of the damages, and this war has somehow managed to embolden the Iranians in their control over Hormuz by proving it is easy to close and incredibly difficult to keep open. Now that the status quo has been so thoroughly fucked it doesn't surprise me they want to see it through to the end now. Whether that'll happen is another question, seems to me it almost certainly will require American boots on the ground.

He'll keep at it as long as they keep giving him gold trinkets.

What does “decisively defeated” mean in a “special operation” without clear and defined objectives/goals?

Seriously? Iran is threatening their desal plants? 

He’s acting like such a chump.

If Iran aims water plants in many of these countries, it is game over for them. Why do firmly believe that is not the case? Do they think Iran wont do it or it wont be able to? I ask genuinely.

I bet. And then everyone clapped?

Define “defeated.”

Iran could just be bombed to bits, the challenge is that they will bomb the gulf region to bits in retaliation. So I'm not sure what they're wanting here.

Of course, do their dirty work because Trump is a sucker and a loser.

Least she had her necklace on. praise be.

I’m glad nothing bad-long term has ever come from US backed regime changes.

Make the case as in bribe? 

Ah so more American blood will be spilled for foreign powers.

Wow! So private!

the same people that payed him a bunch of money a little bit ago?? hmm quid pro quo?

Their "case" isn't that hard to make, is it? A multi-hundred-million jet gift and a few underage girls sealed the deal...

They obviously don’t like drinking water

Wow, they are as profoundly dumb as we are. This is going to be one for the ages and I’m sure regular folks will take the most damage.

If this is true it’s kind of funny that they think they will be safe from American greed

They don’t want TACOs

Just keep fighting for more 50 years bro