What really concerns me is what’s happening internally in Iran. If there’s any real decentralization within the IRGC, will everyone even follow this? Or are there factions that won’t agree to a ceasefire at all?
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raptearer3 days ago
+319
The IRGC is organized into small, independently acting squads. I. The one hand, great for defense, cause your command structure is diffused. On the other hand, the lack of such a structure means it's easy for squads to go rogue and do their own thing.
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TheStoneArrow3 days ago
+311
That is what happens when all top leaders are getting assassinated left and right, no one is left to speak for everyone
edit: also precedent has been set that ceasefires are now ignored and meaningless or used for surprise attacks
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version-two3 days ago
+194
And as you noted, their leaders were assassinated during times of negotiation.
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rigormortishard3 days ago
+143
What are you saying you can't trust the US and Israel?!
And you'd be right.
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AlbertaNorth13 days ago
+75
It’s amazing how badly trump has poisoned the world against him in the last year. In Alberta there were tonnes of people I’d work with in the oil patch that were super pro trump, stickers on their hard hats and all. That fell off a bit when the tariffs hit but I was chatting with a group today and every single one has turned their back on him.
And in the end the only countries that truly benefit are Iran oddly, Russia, china and some in the gulf that have their energy fields still intact. Trump managed to take away Obamas Iran deal and wound up capitulating and giving most of what Iran got in that deal while not having to give up much more than opening the strait to oil traffic with a new $2,000,000 price for each one.
Canada is turning away economically as quick as possible. Our PM has been travelling the world signing trade deals that completely exclude America and I’m sure many other countries are doing the same. Can’t trust a country when their leader constantly threatens other countries (ally’s) and feigns negotiations to stall for time until the military forces make it to the area. As long as he, and the Republican Party have power then America is going to be in rough shape. They’ve proven to the world that their word cannot be trusted and they’re happy to throw ally’s under the bus for absolutely no good reason. America spent the last 80 or so years trying to improve trade relations and maintain the ability to project power and for the most part a lot of that will be gone now.
Heck of a business man and negotiator.
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AnnoyedOwlbear3 days ago
+1
That's generally the response in Australia too. Because Trump refuses to honour deals (or forgets they exist), there's zero point in trusting him. The only wise response is vague lip service, buttering him up, and dealing with others who are reliable. He's a weak leader subject to bribes, so it's only sensible to quietly disengage, because he's profoundly untrustworthy and chaotic.
But hey, how about that CANZUK idea...
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luvinbc3 days ago
+10
Well said, wondering since you're up in Northern AB what's the take on separation? or is it mostly hot air?
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OilFan923 days ago
+6
Hot air. We had hundreds of convoy idiots here in Central where I am, but the seppies are getting way more fingers and there's literally only 2 of them ever on the side of the road. The convoy loses were out dozens at a time day after day even in winter, and now that it's nice out you'd think more separatists would be showing support but nope.
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Whatnow20133 days ago
+1
It’s foreign (read american) media meddling. No one was thinking about that before they decided to run some titles and very very questionable polls in the papers. If you ever wondered how they do narrative control in south america/middle east… you just got a small taste.
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ddouce3 days ago
+14
A war where absolutely none of the combatants can be trusted in any respect. What could possibly go wrong?
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rigormortishard3 days ago
+11
Iran didn't attack anyone. Israel murdered the Ayatollah and his family and the US was a party. Iran was even attacked during negotiations. Classless, gutless moves by Israel and the US.
So, who is that can't be trusted here exactly?
Iran has the right to self-defense. Israel and the US are the aggressors and set it all in motion. And they will remain the aggressors in this war until the end of time.
So save the whole *bOtH SiDeS* bullshit, friend. Doesn't fly here.
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gottatrusttheengr3 days ago
+16
Iran has been waging a proxy war against the other Gulf states for decades.
Not saying a hot direct war from the US was smart, but Iran was absolutely not innocent.
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Nice_nice503 days ago
+5
So, if Iran's not the aggressor, riddle me this Einstein.. who's supplying rockets and arms to the houthis, Hezbollah and Hamas for the last 10+ years?
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GoonGobbo3 days ago
+6
No mention of not trusting Iran who seems to have agreed to a ceasefire to avoid taking heat and then immediately starts shooting missiles at gulf countries?
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JadedSociopath3 days ago
+10
Israel have continued bombing Iran and Lebanon despite the ceasefire.
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MrDerpGently3 days ago
+3
Whether there is a functional civilian government at all in Iran is a real question after the US murdered them several rows deep on the org chart. Who is in charge and how do they enforce a ceasefire is a question Largely because Trump made it one.
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naijaboiler3 days ago
+5
when you bomb centralized and centrally controlled nuclear materials, you end up with dispersed nuclear material some of which may fall in rogue hands with less scruples about using them to cause harm.
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lt__3 days ago
+5
They still are not disconnected from the world. The news reach them, just maybe a bit slower. They also cannot "do their own thing" for long, as they need a resupply of food, medicine and ammunition.
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ender233 days ago
+41
I'm worried someone is gonna tell us trump has been negotiating with a radio station for a prank
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naijaboiler3 days ago
+2
somoen check the date. is it April 1?
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xboxaddict5013 days ago
+4
Every day is April fools day if you live in the US 😜
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Interesting-Risk64463 days ago
+318
I believe if Israel keeps bombing Iran, Iran will keep boming Israel and the region.
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Classic-Trifle-20853 days ago
+180
Lebanon joined on Israel side. The cease fire was for all party involved.
Israel explicitly refuse to honor a cease fire with Lebanon (to the suprise of no one).
That cease fire was DoA
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rubmysemdog3 days ago
+116
Just like the thousands of failed cease fires caused by Israel. Bibi is running the show. All because of the Epstein files. Pedophiles destroying the world was not on my bingo card.
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dj_soo3 days ago
+26
Not to get all pedantic, but you should use the correct term for them: they are all child rapists.
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rubmysemdog3 days ago
+9
Pederasts, cannibals, sadists, murderers. How bout that?
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OddToba3 days ago
+12
? What did you even add to the conversation?
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MyGoodOldFriend3 days ago
+16
their point is probably that a minority of pedophiles r*** children, and a minority of child rapists are pedophiles. very much the wrong place to start that conversation though, lmao
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capital_bj3 days ago
+5
What if that was really part of their long game. Collect irrefutable blackmail over decades, install a puppet, go full send on their plans
5
thpkht5243 days ago
+10
>All because of the Epstein files.
Partly* sure. Israeli influence runs much deeper than that.
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OpenRole3 days ago
+5
I wonder what other agents they had besides Epstein and how much dirt they have on these politicians
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OrganizdConfusion3 days ago
+13
That was something to consider *before* the assassination of their leader.
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TiredOfBeingTired283 days ago
+8
Also believe like an hour after our dear leader trump announced it Israel bombed places.
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PilgrimOz3 days ago
+26
They’d already announced they didn’t agree with the ceasefire. But as per expected, the Taco announced (lied) that it was on. So then within the hour (more like 20mins) Iran launched missiles as if in an effort how much they didn’t agree and that the habitual liar had lied.
He was Market manipulating again.
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Thorgarthebloodedone3 days ago
+1
I'm also not putting anyone above a Flase Flag attack here.
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Dblcut33 days ago
+142
A lot of the news is reporting that Iran agreed to this ceasefire, but I really am skeptical personally. The way Trump worded it made it sound like it hinges on them opening the strait, and I don’t understand why they’d just give up their main bargaining chip
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yupgup123 days ago
+81
They agreed to open it, but they get to charge a $2M toll fee for its use
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thatguy96847362553 days ago
+48
Which is almost exactly what they are doing now (but I guess they're also allow American ships?)
It all seems like it was not very well understood or agreed to
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ThePowerOfStories3 days ago
+56
If the strait is closed, but you can pay $2 million to be allowed through, then mean old horribly stinky worst bad guy ever Iran is winning bigly.
If the strait is open, and you have to pay $2 million to be allowed through, then it’s a tremendous win for the United States and Trump is a genius negotiator who did what no one else could do, fantastical, with tears in their eyes, the best ever, everyone is saying it.
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editorreilly3 days ago
+6
This isn't finalized yet. It's just a proposal.
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I-Here-5553 days ago
+6
They might even accept the $2m fee in USD. Huge victory for Trump!
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TrailerTrashQueen3 days ago
+7
a $2M fee to be on The Bored of Peas.
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Dblcut33 days ago
+31
That’s not really my definition of “opened” but I guess it makes sense that Trump would allow them to have toll it as long as he gets to run away and pretend like we didn’t just give handouts to Iran
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Rob19653 days ago
+23
>Trump would allow them to have toll it as long as he gets to run away and pretend like we didn’t just give handouts to Iran
But the ceasefire plan also includes; the US to make “Full payment of compensation for reconstruction costs to Iran”:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c5yw4g3z7qgt?post=asset%3A68b586d3-4e14-4389-a5c5-7457d49ce17a#post
I wonder how many billions of dollars thst will be? Maybe the US can ship the cash out to Iran on pallets?
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Local-Friendship81663 days ago
+9
Well #8 on that list seems like the pallets of cash is quite likely.
9
tb30k3 days ago
+4
the plan is to pay for it with the toll fees
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TangledPangolin3 days ago
+2
>I wonder how many billions of dollars thst will be? Maybe the US can ship the cash out to Iran on pallets?
As an American taxpayer, this is an absolute steal. Whatever the war reparations the Iranians ask for, I would gladly pay for it, because it's still an order of magnitude cheaper than paying to keep the war going and paying for oil at $200 a barrel.
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VanillaFunction3 days ago
+7
That a long with pulling all US forces out of the Middle East is going to be one hell of a story to spin in a positive light..
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wobblydubchild3 days ago
+5
The toll being charged during the ceasefire hasn’t been confirmed anywhere. Iran just that they’d need the military to guide ships through (technical limitations, potentially because of the mines). The US has 15 points to end the war, Iran has 10. No one knows what will happen in these two weeks or what the final agreement is. Everything is conjecture right now because the ceasefire is very unclear.
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Elbit_Curt_Sedni3 days ago
+8
It's also unclear if the ceasefire will even be a thing at this point.
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_Lucille_3 days ago
+9
The toll is actually kind of a smart idea.
They know US isn't going to pay for reconstruction, so essentially a tariff gets placed.
I assume it's an effective $4 million toll since ships need to go in and out.
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sprouting_broccoli3 days ago
+6
I watched it unfolding on Reuters and Iran Sens on board with the ceasefire. There’s three big issues with the ceasefire:
1. When it starts - this doesn’t appear to have been agreed yet
2. Does it include Lebanon? Iran and Pakistan (who authored the agreement) say yes but Israel says no which suggests Israel want to torpedo it immediately
3. Will Iranian proxies abide by it? No idea on this one but I think that even if they do initially they’ll have itchy trigger fingers and could break it despite Iran telling them not to (and this might happen with minimal provocation from Israel if they don’t just do it on their own)
On top of this there is the underlying issue of trump not having much patience for negotiations and likely to just break it on his own because he isn’t getting what he wants fast enough.
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ithinkitslupis3 days ago
+11
They don't even know who is in control there. There's an ongoing power vacuum. You can have a legitimate ceasefire with who you think is in charge and not another leader in control of weapons.
>and I don’t understand why they’d just give up their main bargaining chip
In the 10 point plan from Iran they permanently control the straight of Hormuz, are immune to all sanctions and maybe even can enrich uranium in the Farsi version they released. It's pretty much a go f*** yourself offer if they're serious about it and not willing to negotiate.
edit to add source:
[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/08/iran-10-point-plan-ceasefire-donald-trump-us](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/08/iran-10-point-plan-ceasefire-donald-trump-us)
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Redhawke133 days ago
+9
These are allegedly the ten points of the current plan that they proposed and will be the base for negotiations if this ceasefire pans out. They do not mention permanent control of the Strait or the ability to enrich Uranium for Nuclear Weapons. They do however include reparations.
1. Complete cessation of the war on Iraq, Lebanon, and Yemen
2. Complete and permanent cessation of the war on Iran with no time limit
3. Ending all conflicts in the region in their entirety
4. Reopening the Strait of Hormuz
5. Establishing a protocol and conditions to ensure freedom and security of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz
6. Full payment of compensation for reconstruction costs to Iran
7. Full commitment to lifting sanctions on Iran
8. Release of Iranian funds and frozen assets held by the United States
9. Iran fully commits to not seeking possession of any nuclear weapons
10. Immediate ceasefire takes effect on all fronts immediately upon approval of the above conditions
Here is the source: https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c5yw4g3z7qgt?post=asset%3A68b586d3-4e14-4389-a5c5-7457d49ce17a#post
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BigMikeInAustin3 days ago
+5
Oh, US Republicans really do not like reparations.
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ithinkitslupis3 days ago
+6
The list of 10 points, published by Iranianstate media, include a number of conditions the US has rejected in the past. The plan requires:
* The lifting of all primary and secondary sanctions on Iran.
* Continued Iranian control over the strait of Hormuz.
* US military withdrawal from the Middle East.
* An end to attacks on Iran and its allies.
* The release of frozen Iranian assets.
* A UN security council resolution making any deal binding.
In the version released in Farsi, Iran also included the phrase “acceptance of enrichment” for its nuclear program.
[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/08/iran-10-point-plan-ceasefire-donald-trump-us](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/08/iran-10-point-plan-ceasefire-donald-trump-us)
I do not see the points you mentioned in the source you linked.
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Redhawke133 days ago
+3
Ah I see that it was just linking to the top of the ongoing news about it, I fixed it in my post and here is the corrected link: https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c5yw4g3z7qgt?post=asset%3A68b586d3-4e14-4389-a5c5-7457d49ce17a#post
Edit - If the conditions are still the ones you listed then I doubt trump would ever accept them and we would probably go back to war ugh.. If they are the ones that BBC listed then maybe Trump will accept the huge reparations in exchange for being able to rant about how he won on the Strait and nukes.
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naijaboiler3 days ago
+1
so basically obama deal + toll + cash + less US presence in the middle east.
We are really winning
1
Arendious3 days ago
+4
If people on the American side legitimately agreed to that plan, the Iranians might as well throw in "replace the White House with a Mosque" and "the United States acknowledges the Ayatollah as it's Supreme Leader" - those provisions are tantamount to a total US surrender of it's Gulf interests...
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NefariousnessFew43543 days ago
+17
Full day? I didn't even go to sleep yet since this art of the deal.
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UniversalFapture3 days ago
+3
Words are losing meaning every day
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ECircus3 days ago
+4
Because words don't mean anything anymore. It's common knowledge that Trump is a heartless windbag. No one will ever trust this administration on anything. Zero credibility.
Even Trump's supporters repeat endlessly that you can't believe anything Trump says. They think it's not important that the President can't be trusted. He tears up agreements all the time, for as little as someone not being nice to him.
He's a complete nothing and Iran knows that.
4
OkFix40743 days ago
+3
It happens when you kill the whole command chain and expect to negotiate - with who though ?
3
CryptographerShot2133 days ago
+3
It didn’t even last 5 hours
3
PJballa343 days ago
+638
That lasted just long enough for a smoke break.
638
Classic-Trifle-20853 days ago
+349
Your weekly scheduled market manipulation was a success. Please now proceed with the originally programmed events.
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GamingFarang3 days ago
+94
I hate that this is likely true.
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Fallouttgrrl3 days ago
+36
"I'm gonna level the county's infrastructure Tuesday"
Market: *sad trombone noise*
"Okay we've decided for two weeks the spice must flow"
Market: happy trumpet sounds
And then reality sets back in a few hours later
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RGrad41043 days ago
+17
Kinda funny that 8pm ET is the cutoff for most after hour trades.
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Fallouttgrrl3 days ago
+16
Bro was really like "they have until the markets close to give us a deal"
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Groovychick19783 days ago
+2
174 million in 3 hrs.
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flybyme033 days ago
+3
I'm so tired of it. Like we are idiots
3
AdultbabyEinstein3 days ago
+9
I'm on my smoke ceasefire
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Dull_Job_63723 days ago
+3
A bowl sounds good 😌
3
Raspberries-Are-Evil3 days ago
+285
So, not a cease fire. Who could have predicted.
285
I-Here-5553 days ago
+43
Technically not, but if they pretend long enough, it might turn into one.
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aidissonance3 days ago
+15
I mean it’s not a “war”
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damojr3 days ago
+2
No, it's a special military operation.
Shit sorry, wrong dictator... this one's an excursion.
2
chuddyman3 days ago
+83
Oooh cease-fire!? I thought you said increase fire!
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blankvoidoid3 days ago
+182
Inauguration 2025- "I would like to be remembered as a "peacemaker and a unifier" as president."
April 2026- declares he wants to commit genocide.
You'll be remembered, alright. Just not how you think.
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Nekowulf3 days ago
+55
He doesn't care which way it goes. Just as long as he's remembered for this and not all the child raping he did.
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Classic-Trifle-20853 days ago
+7
He doesnt care. He just want to be a chapter in history books rather than a paragraph.
Good or bad, as long as hes important.
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issm3 days ago
+3
History books should refuse to use it's name. Anonymize it as much as possible while still describing it's actions.
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huxtiblejones3 days ago
+1
Probably the most harmful thing we could do is forget this egomaniac prick’s existence. Damnatio memoriae.
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lacegem3 days ago
+331
Is there a ceasefire? Isn't there? I can't trust my government any more than I can trust theirs. Even if they're not lying *this time*, do the people talking to the press even know what's actually happening? Does anyone know what the plan is? Is there a plan?
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JMurdock773 days ago
+325
Sounds like Israel refuses to honor it. In other news water is wet.
325
hoppertn3 days ago
+167
I’m starting to think this Isreal fella doesn’t have the best interests of the USA in mind.
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elementality8833 days ago
+52
The whole Israel relationship never seemed to be reciprocated. Unless you’re a politician in AIPAC, I haven’t heard of anything but the US giving to Israel.
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Low_Pickle_1123 days ago
+13
It's a base with which to project power in the region. "Were there not an Israel, the United States would have to invent one" and all that.
At the end of the day, the dog still wags the tail.
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KaliUK3 days ago
+4
That’s because they don’t fight enemies with the same size gun. Now they are just salty. Hubris will be their downfall, as it should, they tried taking over the world that saved them not even 100 years ago.
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jesuisapprenant3 days ago
+15
The more likely explanation is that the government of Iran no longer has absolute control over its military now
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Classic-Trifle-20853 days ago
+28
The civil gouvernement of Iran stopped having control.over the military for a long time.
Its why a lot of people were calling out Trump lackeys were negotiating with people who literally cpudnt enforce anything agreed upon.
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jesuisapprenant3 days ago
+6
The Ayatollah had absolute control over the IRGC and all the other branches of the military. It wasn't a civil government, but he was the supreme leader. Now, we have no idea if the successor Ayatollah is even alive, and we have no clue who is even running the government.
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Classic-Trifle-20853 days ago
+4
Okay. So who did trump negotiate with?
I know, Pakistan, but if you dont know who is running things... who are you negotiating with?
It seams Iran official statement and Grump.understanding of the ceasse fire isn't even the same, considering how he freaked out on the media 2h ago.
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MLB-LeakyLeak3 days ago
+9
> Okay. So who did trump negotiate with?
Nigerian Prince
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hoppertn3 days ago
+6
I heard Rubio had sent 6,000 apple gift cards to the “head” of the IRNG.
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tonycomputerguy3 days ago
+9
Did you read their terms for the agreement? It's hilarious that Trump would agree to this. It's nothing but a win for Iran if they stick to the cease-fire.
At this point I don't think anyone agreeing to this is agreeing on what they've agreed on.
9
HettySwollocks3 days ago
+4
Wasn’t that by design, it’s quite a good strategy. Without a central command and control who do you target. Guerrilla warfare I suppose
4
seasamgo3 days ago
+5
Is there a functional government of Iran? My understanding is that key leaders have been assassinated and the IRGC is primarily in charge.
5
fury4203 days ago
+2
What makes you say that? This article is about *Iranian* attacks, not Israeli.
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Lower_Excuse_86933 days ago
+27
Yes; but if you go down the rabbit hole you’ll find that the original reporting was from an Israeli security official who said that Israel had continued to strike Iran despite the cease-fire and also that there were now missiles from Iran headed towards Israel.
Also because the cease-fire was supposed to include Lebanon but there’s 0 indication Israel ever even pretended to attempt ceasing activities in Lebanon at all.
But you have touched on an important point that the news media have taken to reporting in pure propaganda terms and are leaving out vital information.
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ComingInSideways3 days ago
+15
I suspect DJT and Friends have been negotiating with the “regime“ they want to assume control. I think they have been cultivating contacts they thought could preform a coup for a long time.
My guess is they over promised and underdelivered. I really think this invasion, followed by the multiple calls (from the US and Israel) for Iranians to “rise up and take control of your gov’t”, was sold by this “regime change group” as in the bag, if you take out the top leaders. Hence the early leader strikes.
Really a lot like the three or four prior coup attempts in Venezuela, by the opposition party. These kind of behind the curtain ops to insert new regimes used to be the CIAs theoretical forte, but since Pinochet they have not been so on point. But I digress.
Now I think DJT and friends are negotiating with people who do not have any any reins on power, and are just selling smoke, as they have been doing. That is why I think there is all kinds of mixed messages being conveyed from Iran right now. From AI Lego insults to cyber-strikes to capitulation.
The problem is there are so many lies coming out of this administration it is hard to even guess what has a kernel of truth, and what is pure fantasy.
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ylfcm3 days ago
+4
Is there even a press anymore?
4
Green_Magazine7123 days ago
+141
israel also said they won't stop their invasion of lebanon lol
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coleto223 days ago
+62
Then Iran should not stop the hits against Israel.
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WafflesTrufflez3 days ago
+9
I guess the ceasefire is only with the US huh
9
Any-Monk-93953 days ago
+10
Lebanon sure sounds a lot like Lebensraum if you catch my drift 😉
10
Serious_Berry_39773 days ago
+102
Geez....I was saying earlier that I would be surprised if I woke up in the morning and found out the ceasefire was still going on. I haven't even went to bed yet.
102
UnoriginalGeek3 days ago
+36
Berry this is dad, go to bed.
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PiceaSignum3 days ago
+2
This is Berry's mom. They're in bed.
2
MikuEmpowered3 days ago
+3
Yeah as it turns out, Israel won't accept the deal with Lebanon.
They will agree to all the other stuff
3
DrankRockNine3 days ago
+3
As a European, I woke up wondering if Iran had been nuclear bombed overnight
3
Spire_Citron3 days ago
+80
It would be funny if the US just stepped out of the war and left Israel to fight all on its own. Why should it join in when Israel decided to immediately mess up a deal they were negotiating?
80
YouDotty3 days ago
+19
Too many US politicians have explicitly pledged their loyalty to Israel for that to happen. That would be treason in any other country but a popular position in the US.
19
Ajdee63 days ago
+27
America is controlled by Israel. Has to do what Israel wants to
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SingularityCentral3 days ago
+59
So Trump and Pakistan (or maybe just Trump) made this up entirely out of whole cloth?
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xShooK3 days ago
+36
Isreal said it detected missiles or drones early Wednesday. Iran put out their cease fire statement on Wednesday. Unclear how the timing lines up here, or when they were launched.
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MikuEmpowered3 days ago
+6
Israel released statement, they agreed with the ceasefire, but won't accept the Lebanon thing.
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Pure-Toxicity3 days ago
+9
It takes time for information to trickle down to units remember not every Iranian commander is sitting on Twitter 24/7, before the invention of the radio skirmishes would continue for weeks after a peace deal was signed.
9
TriXter693 days ago
+88
Probably took a bit for the decentralized command structure of Iran to halt all missle launches. I'm curious to see if Israel will actually stop attacking Lebanon
88
scuzzy9873 days ago
+107
Israel said the cease fire does not apply to Lebanon. One of Iran's points was ceasefire in Lebanon. By transitive property there's no ceasefire except Trump might say the US is out and Israel is on its own
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sleeptightburner3 days ago
+15
Israel has the tapes of Trump raping kids, don’t hold your breath.
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JesterMarcus3 days ago
+1
I wouldn't be shocked if that's just one of those demands Iran didn't actually expect to get, but may as well demand to meet closer to what they really expect/hope to get.
1
scuzzy9873 days ago
+13
Yeah but Trump can say we didn't break the cease fire, Israel did. Iran has a right to defend itself so now it's between Iran and Israel. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump feels like Bibi and the mossad tricked him into starting the war. It also gives Trump the exit ramp here's been looking for
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ChillFratBro3 days ago
+17
> Trump feels like Bibi and the mossad tricked him into starting the war
If he did, it would be a rare case of him being perceptive - **that's exactly what happened**.
Israel is not an ally of the US.
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Indiscriminate_Top3 days ago
+8
This is where my wishful thinking lies. We’ll still have to deal with our own problems at home, but it’d be great if we didn’t have to also tank for an ungrateful Israel.
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TrekRider9113 days ago
+31
Israel announced tonight that the cease fire did not affect their operations in Lebanon.
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xaviery7773 days ago
+9
No such thing as a ceasefire in the united states of israhell.
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manolid3 days ago
+35
My money is on Israel attacking Iran after the ceasefire announcement and Iran responding. Israel ~~wants~~ needs this war to continue.
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Fezzik5273 days ago
+6
Clearly Trump isn't talking to all the people with influence over the irgc
6
CantAffordzUsername3 days ago
+22
They are peaceful missiles though….
22
jesuisapprenant3 days ago
+23
I think the central government of Iran does not have complete control over their military subunits anymore. Trump and Netanyahu have really launched us into a seriously dangerous era. A fractured Iran would be 100 times worse than ISIS.
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StaticBroom3 days ago
+6
This is a day that will be long remembered. What are we doing to each other?
6
newzinoapp3 days ago
+5
The numbers from April 6 tell the story. Saudi Arabia intercepted at least 7 ballistic missiles and 18 drones over the Eastern Province alone. Kuwait shot down 17 hostile drones. UAE intercepted an unspecified number. That's 130+ Iranian projectiles across three countries in a single air defense window.
The problem isn't whether Gulf air defenses can handle one barrage. It's whether they can handle twenty. PAC-3 interceptor stocks across the GCC are reportedly down to 14% of pre-war levels. Each Patriot round costs $4-6 million. The Shahed drones Iran is launching cost around $30,000 each.
A ceasefire that doesn't hold just accelerates this math. Iran can manufacture drones faster than Raytheon can produce PAC-3 rounds. Every "successful" interception is also depleting a finite stockpile.
5
Evilkoikoi3 days ago
+13
Israel said no ceasefire on Lebanon so I think the whole thing broke down.
13
ShakesDontBreak3 days ago
+22
I mean Israel kept bombing through their "ceasefire" negotiated by US.
Why would any country actually believe the US? Of course they will go on the offense.
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Meotwister3 days ago
+16
Did Iran know about this ceasefire?
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Voderama3 days ago
+3
Anything for the pump n dump
3
Alt4rEg03 days ago
+10
I'd love to know who is, allegedly, negotiating on behalf of Iran here...
10
LionTigerWings3 days ago
+7
Well his name is Rick and he had some sort of head wrap on so he seemed legit.
7
Stable_Orange_Genius3 days ago
+3
Tronald Dump
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TraditionalGap13 days ago
+20
If only someone could have predicted that knocking out their command and control might result in difficulty exerting command and control...
20
ElectroDaddy3 days ago
+8
There it is. I knew it wouldn’t take long.
8
Nuurps3 days ago
+7
No shit, Iran hasn't changed any of its demands with its 10 point plan the US is now "accepting", while both sides claim victory.
Meanwhile Israel started bombing the shit out of bridges in Iran last night while they were trying to broker this deal and have flat out refused to stop attacking Lebanon, barely hiding behind the excuse of Hezbollah now, referring to their military operations as against Lebanon directly.
7
awue3 days ago
+3
Ceasefire these days is basically a non smoking sign outside an airport
3
fullmoon633 days ago
+3
At this point ‘ceasefire’ just means ‘we’ll see what happens next.’
3
hawkseye173 days ago
+3
I wonder what the record for shortest ceasefire is
3
Toddcraft3 days ago
+3
Ceasefire just means "reload" I guess
3
Fancy_Possibility4563 days ago
+11
The art of the deal right?
11
2thSprkler3 days ago
+7
The ceasefire was with Pakistan. Trump forgot who he was talking to
7
pembquist3 days ago
+5
After all the "hellfire" or whatever, I'm thinking that command and control might not be total in Iran.
5
Supernova_Soldier3 days ago
+2
This situation is escalating even further it seems
2
StormerSage3 days ago
+2
All right, the money has been laundered through Polymarket, let the war continue!
2
DoradoPulido23 days ago
+2
Oh we thought you said "No, more missiles".
2
YearlyLemon83 days ago
+2
I f****** called it!! People were giving me shit on world news for me saying this shit did not matter at all and that it was a horrible deal and likely to go no where by the myth the dumb ass don himself and his spectacular art of the deal. Well there it is down the f******🚽.
2
Sudden_Fix_11443 days ago
+2
Markets are going to u turn by end of the week
2
Clubsandiches3 days ago
+2
Ohhhhhh CEASEfire! I thought you said INCREASE fire!
2
Red_Liquor_ice3 days ago
+1
The cease-fire was only between usa and iran iirc
1
SexualMushroom3 days ago
+4
No one takes TACO seriously
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dronesitter3 days ago
+5
None of what they said means Israel is gonna stop.
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sophia_az3 days ago
+2
Israel's never gonna accept a ceasefire that stops their invasion -> Hezbolla gets hit -> Hezbolla tells Iran they got hit -> Iran hits back -> Israel say Iran broke the deal and hits back -> no more peace
Have I missed anything?
2
ion-deez-nuts3 days ago
+3
I don't understand Israel. I've seen it dozens of times where they broker a ceasefire and then immediately violate it
3
TryharderJB3 days ago
+2
Is the ceasefire in the room with us now?
2
Lopsided_Anxiety_3943 days ago
+2
Israel is bombing Lebanon.
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I-Have-An-Alibi3 days ago
+2
If the United States could stay out of the middle east for five f****** minutes that would be a nice change of pace for the last thirty years.
2
S1gorJabjong3 days ago
+1
Ever watched the TV show, Vikings? King Ecbert anyone?
1
full07britney3 days ago
+1
Got a couple hours reprieve from the existential dread.
1
call-lee-free3 days ago
+1
Okay what the hell is actually happening here?? So much freaking news here. One post says there's a two week cease fire becauss Trump Taco'd out. Another says there's still some kind of attack. Like which is it??
1
Jurodan3 days ago
+1
Yeah, that's going to take a lot longer than two weeks. This new Versailles agreement probably won't last that long.
1
Tigereyesxx3 days ago
+1
They can afford the best defensive surface to air missiles systems on the planet, buy them instead of super cars..
1
fattmarrell3 days ago
+1
Sorry Roger, you paper tiger now
1
WonderfulPrune72603 days ago
+1
Oops, sorry. Those were on a timer we forgot about -Iran
1
Reasonable-Oil77073 days ago
+1
A ceasefire that still has missiles in the air a few hours later is less a peace deal and more a test of whether anyone is actually in control.
1
davesr253 days ago
+1
That didn't seem to last very long.
1
Haasts_Eagle3 days ago
+1
To be fair, a single conversation with Trunp probably makes you feel like you are two weeks older.
1
justallanr3 days ago
+1
The "ceasefire" seems to have had the lifespan of a mayfly. It's genuinely hard to know who to believe or what the actual strategy is at this point. The whole situation just feels like a chaotic mess with no one in control.
1
twofourfourthree3 days ago
+1
Wonder who’s making money off the market this time.
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