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3rdhouseonleft Mar 27, 2026 +291

then they should gather their troops and send them in. Israel as well.

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GuiltyAnalysis3316 Mar 27, 2026 +125

Thats the best part. They cant. Their way of solving problems is to throw money around until problem is solved Most of them have high amount of foreigners as their population. Their armies are weak and not well trained.

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BarryMcKokinor Mar 27, 2026 +35

Yes. True born Saudis or Kuwaitis or all of them are actually very small in population. That’s how the monarchy is able to keep control. Very tight control on citizenship but if you are a citizen you get 6 figure subsidies from the monarchy and a lot of benefits. Such as if you can prove your education will get you a job at x amount elsewhere, they will match the difference for you to stay in country.

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GuiltyAnalysis3316 Mar 27, 2026 +25

That is why Iran scares them. If this continues they are worried that someone might overthrow their government. It wouldn’t be a loss, they are greedy, evil, selfish families that don’t even care about their own people

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BarryMcKokinor Mar 27, 2026 -4

Yeah but There is absolutely no way the U.S. will allow the region to fall into the hands of China/Russia majority alignment. The monarchy’s there know that and that why they have been so open to a shit ton of US bases as well as pushes to normalize relations recently with the other regional U.S. ally, Israel (which hasn’t been easy and is why Iran freaked out and allowed hezbolah to do October massacre when Kushner was brokering peace deals) That’s why we always have our f****** hands over there bc it’s literally the source of energy for the words economic output. China produces less than 10% of its energy needs domestically etc. what I find interesting and people should watch is that sophisticated investors have said that Venezuela CAPEX into their oil will take about 3-5 years to return profit which just so happens to align with the time we are hearing it will take to repair a lot of the damage done so far in places like Qatar. If that’s the case and heavy crude refineries are very close in the gulf in Texas for example, in 5 years we could see the U.S even less worried about the implications of a straight closure which is why Iran sees the writing on the wall there. China and Russia do to bc Iran is their last source of allied energy output/shadow fleet, and military hardware exporter.

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Ornery_Tension3257 Mar 27, 2026 +2

> If that’s the case and heavy crude refineries are very close in the gulf in Texas for example, in 5 years we could see the U.S even less worried about the implications of a straight closure which is why Iran sees the writing on the wall there. US oil prices aren't independent of world oil prices. https://oilprice.com/ West Texas Intermediate is still gaining in price although still below the most common European blend (Brent). The gulf refineries have substituted Canadian Tar Sands oil for Venezuela heavy oils for quite some time. Western Canadian Select still is lower in price to the lighter oils but still also seen price gains. https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/

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Electronic_Topic1958 Mar 28, 2026 +1

\>there is absolutely no way the U.S. will allow the region to fall into the hands of China/Russia majority alignment. Never say never. I am sure the US thought it could defeat rice farmers and literal cave men but both of those things were also not true.

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GuiltyAnalysis3316 Mar 27, 2026 -5

That is exactly why China and Russia won’t allow Iran to fall. Iran doesn’t really have a problem with gulf states, even now they are only attacking US assets. They do have an issue with Israel which has issue with everybody due to what they do and how they behave. As far as I understand, Venezuela has a lot of oil but they lack technology. So it will cost millions just to start. We will see how will things play out. I just know that most of the middle east states are genocidal, greedy, selfish and evil. Basically you can do whatever you want, just do not touch the money

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morbie5 Mar 27, 2026 +1

> born Saudis or Kuwaitis or all of them are actually very small in population Not true about Saudi > 6 figure subsidies Maybe it is 6 figures when housing and health care benefits are added in but I don't think every citizens gets 6 figures in cash. Especially not in Saudi

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BarryMcKokinor Mar 27, 2026 +2

I had a good buddy in the Kuwait royal Air Force who kind of filled me in on it but yeah it’s not all cash cash but there quiet a bit of stackable benefits. And for the citizenship he said you basically have to have two Kuwaiti parents and 100% need a Kuwaiti father or you don’t get citizenship benefits.

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quitaskingmetomakean Mar 27, 2026 +8

Why do you think Saudi Arabia made a defense pact with Pakistan? https://www.icanw.org/pakistan_saudi_arabia_a_mutual_defence_pact_with_nuclear_shadows

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GuiltyAnalysis3316 Mar 27, 2026 +18

I highly doubt Pakistan would go to war with Iran. Pakistan is already fighting one, also they have other problems like economy, India, etc

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Dingcock Mar 27, 2026

Pakistan could wrap that war up in 5 minutes, it's an offensive war, Pakistan is not really under any real immediate threat from the Taliban.

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boredwithlyf Mar 27, 2026 +9

No, they absolutely could not afford to waste money on that war

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Horat1us_UA Mar 27, 2026 +2

That’s like whole point of comments above. Saudi can afford it

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boredwithlyf Mar 27, 2026 +4

Oh I made a typo, they also have a 15% shia population. They can't f*** with iran

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Advanced_Section891 Mar 27, 2026 +11

Pakistan is not going to go to war with Iran. India is Pakistan's main strategic rival, and they're also currently at war with Afghanistan, they're not going to open up another front on their third border.

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NotThatHandsomePete Mar 27, 2026 +2

Turns out that 747 wasn't free. It just isn't Trump having to pay for it.

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CliftonForce Mar 27, 2026 +1

They spend enough on giant line cities and artificial islands shaped like flowers. How about spending that on "Other ways to get the oil out of here that don't go near Iran."

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Kind_Commission_427 Mar 28, 2026 +1

The Saudi Arabian military is one of the largest and best-funded forces in the Middle East Royal Saudi Land Forces (Army): The largest branch, with approximately 75,000 active troops. Saudi Arabian National Guard (SANG): An elite, autonomous force of about 153,000 personnel dedicated to internal security and protecting the royal family. Royal Saudi Air Force: Approximately 30,000 personnel. Saudi Navy: Approximately 13,500 personnel, including 3,000 marines. Saudi Air Defence Forces: Roughly 10,000 to 16,000 personnel. Strategic Missile Force: Estimated at 2,500 to 5,000 personnel Ground Power: Includes over 1,000 main battle tanks (primarily American M1A2 Abrams) and more than 7,000 infantry fighting vehicles. Air Power: A fleet of over 900 total aircraft, including nearly 400 high-end combat jets like the F-15 Eagle and Eurofighter Typhoon. Naval Power: Operates around 30–50 principal vessels, including 7 frigates and 9 corvettes

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FlaviousTiberius Mar 27, 2026 +34

Their troops are all committed to Yemen where they continue to make absolutely zero progress against a bunch of men in rags wielding scraps

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3rdhouseonleft Mar 27, 2026 -2

well up the price of american security till they have no choice to either pay or form their own armies. The middle east will never live in peace and the US should stay as far away as possible. go back to helping europe against the real issues of china and russia and proxy NK. We are burning through stock quicker than we can replace it leaving an opening for china to play its cards.

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Dingcock Mar 27, 2026 +6

A massive reason that the US has those bases in the middle east is to protect its own interests. If these countries didn't have oil, the bases wouldn't be there. So it's kind of silly to say "pay or form your own army" when it is the US that wants its bases there. Yes the host country wants the base as well, but it's only there because the US wants the base there. Those bases are there to do exactly what they're trying to do now - protect US interests. Basically, you're asking the US to punch itself in the face, because having these countries kick out a US military base is a huge loss to the US.

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Terrible-Growth1652 Mar 27, 2026 -2

Just because a multinational oil company bears an American brand name does not make it a US interest. Especially since the US economy no longer relies on middle eastern oil.

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Horat1us_UA Mar 27, 2026 +1

Such a silly thing to say. If the US economy does not rely on middle eastern oil why gas prices skyrocketed across the US?

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Terrible-Growth1652 Mar 27, 2026

Because the oil that we rely on is being sold to the people who normally rely on Middle Eastern oil

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Horat1us_UA Mar 27, 2026 +1

Oh, you are starting to understand what global economy system is.

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Terrible-Growth1652 Mar 27, 2026

Which would mean those military bases are actually harming us interests. So I call bullshit.

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Dingcock Mar 27, 2026 +2

Not really. Just by existing these bases brought stability to the region which kept oil prices down for decades. Yes the active use of the bases has increased oil prices, but they were not used with the goal of increasing oil prices, but oil prices are a big reason they were placed where they are. Basically this is active vs passive effects

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chipmunksocute Mar 27, 2026 +5

F****** seriously. We're not just for hire mercenaries to do whatever you want (or I think most Americans dont want to be). Iran is your neighbor you figure out how to live with them. If you can't hey go throw your people into the meat grinder. L

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epi_glowworm Mar 27, 2026 +1

why risk their sons and daughters when you can buy the services you need? /s

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watch-nerd Mar 27, 2026 +1

What troops do the Gulf States have?

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NoMoreAtPresent Mar 27, 2026 +1

They sure got Donald to do their dirty work for them then didn’t they

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RutabagaFree4065 Mar 27, 2026 +1

That's how a Saudi fighter pilot can get a bunch of American F35 kills and potentially become an ace. A Kuwait pilot got 3 f15 kills after all

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IncidentalIncidence Mar 27, 2026 -9

Why? The US chose to start the war, it is absolutely valid that the GCC countries don't want to be fucked over by the US taking their ball and going home and leaving the whole region in a much worse position re: Iran than it was before.

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Graymouzer Mar 27, 2026 -2

You are looking for reason and logic here. The US didn't start a war, Trump and his cabal of idiots did at the urging of Israel and perhaps the Saudis. Any other American president was smart enough to see through that. Trump is not. Now, we are stuck paying the price for his stupidity.

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IncidentalIncidence Mar 27, 2026 +3

> The US didn't start a war, Trump and his cabal of idiots did at the urging of Israel and perhaps the Saudis. This might be news to you, but Trump is the President of the United States because Kamala's laugh was too weird or whatever other reason y'all didn't feel it was important to go vote. Trump starting a war *is* the US starting a war. And yeah, it's absolutely reasonable and logical that none of the countries in the Gulf want to be left with Iran in control of the oil exports that their entire economies are based on because the US kicked the hornet's nest. That's not even a reach; that's just basic awareness. If the US packs up and leaves now they are in a *significantly* worse position than they were before through limited fault of their own.

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Graymouzer Mar 27, 2026 -2

I get that, really. What I am saying is that wars are supposed to go through Congress, either a declaration of war or an authorization for the use of force. There are exceptions for an immanent threat but that is not what happened here. Iran was not attacking anyone. It is extremely frustrating to me that Congress has not said no, stop this. They could do that at any time with a War Powers resolution and it has failed to pass. What possible interest does the US have in continuing this? Is it because Republicans are afraid of their MAGA base? Is it because they are in the pocket of AIPAC? If we are forced into escalating this, we will expend a huge amount of our munitions, commit a large part of our armed forces, and spend many billions of dollars for who knows how long. Negotiating an end is the only good result for the US.

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J-the-Kidder Mar 27, 2026 +14

Huh, so we've become mercenaries for the Gulf States? I mean, why not? Money is as good a reason to go to war as, umm, what reason are we there for now?

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Pen-Pen-De-Sarapen Mar 28, 2026 +3

The US has been a mercenary since the start of the petrodollar in the 70s.

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supercyberlurker Mar 27, 2026 +46

I don't understand how you 'significantly degrade' Iran's ability to send c****-as-f*** drones. Even Ukraine, the undisputed leader in that area has a hard time handling that - and Trump has even refused their help.

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IntelArtiGen Mar 27, 2026 +23

> I don't understand how you 'significantly degrade' Iran's ability to send c****-as-f*** drones. Well even if they had 20k drones, it doesn't mean these 20k drones are produced / stored / launched from 20k different locations and people. So there are things to target to degrade this ability at least temporarily. But because it's really c**** as you say it can probably be rebuilt quickly. The drones Iran is sending aren't "that" c****. It's c**** compared to a missile, but a Shahed costs $20k-50k, it's the price of a brand new car in a country that isn't that rich. It requires an industry to produce the engines, it requires qualified workers etc. You can produce a quadcopter in your garage but for a Shahed it's a bit more complicated.

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Misfiring Mar 27, 2026 -17

Yeah it's c**** for the developed world for sure, but Iran is anything but developed. The only way they can get any money is by selling oil to China.

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riko77can Mar 27, 2026 +15

You make it sound like they live in mud huts.

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SirTiffAlot Mar 27, 2026 +9

Right? It's a 5,000 year old civilization capable of enriching uranium and people treat it like it's Sudan.

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pab_guy Mar 27, 2026 -1

GDP Per capita is like $5000 So labor is c****, and they can build houses. But spending a lot of money on drone components isn't exactly easy for them.

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No-Tomatillo-7566 Mar 27, 2026 +3

And Trump just lifted sanctions from them doing exactly that.

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TyblosiinU Mar 27, 2026 +8

Ukraine doesn't have air superiority like the US does in Iran. Drone manufacturing facilities are a lot easier to destroy

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Wafflars Mar 27, 2026 -6

You tell them to kindly only build a couple thousands or you’re gonna bomb their children’s school… again. See, isn’t diplomacy easy?

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Rich-Instruction-327 Mar 27, 2026 -4

You destroy their electric grid, infrastructure and oil industry. Without good power, transportation and money it becomes very hard to buy and build weapons. Also historically, revolutions are sparked by deep societal discontent, triggered by factors such as economic crises, severe inequality, political corruption, military defeat, and the spread of new ideologies. If you collapse Iran's economy and embarrass it militarily a year from now their will be a civil war or revolution.

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StDiabolique Mar 28, 2026 +5

Yeah...that's probably called a war crime, or I guess, in this case, a "short term military excursion" crime.

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Kokophelli Mar 27, 2026 +18

Go ahead and join in boys.

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PhDinDildos_Fedoras Mar 27, 2026 +27

Please daddy, invade them for us🥺

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Glittering-Age-9549 Mar 27, 2026 +5

For a long time, the threat of US military has been the stick the Gulf monarchies have used to keep Iran at bay. If US runs away it will prove to be a paper tiger, and the Gulf monarchs won't have any tool to scare Iran away... They don't need US to defeat Iran completely, but they need US to at least damage Iran much more, so it will behave in years to come.

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TheOriginalBroCone Mar 27, 2026 +9

Gulf States should be sending troops then tf. If they want this war, they should fight it themselves

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Pen-Pen-De-Sarapen Mar 28, 2026 +1

That will be goodbye then to the petrodollar system.

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RLewis8888 Mar 27, 2026 +11

Exactly what MAGA voted for: US stuck in a foreign war using US soldiers to meet the objectives of other countries. America Last.

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SilentWay8474 Mar 27, 2026 +2

And probably Trump being paid personally for our soldiers' services and lives.

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GuiltyAnalysis3316 Mar 27, 2026 +2

Funny how they all boss US around, Israel first then gulf states

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SickOfEnggSpam Mar 27, 2026 +7

America first, am I right?

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GuiltyAnalysis3316 Mar 27, 2026 +2

First to the frontline, first to send their people to die

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Handrljan42 Mar 27, 2026 +1

First on the battlefield?

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jphamlore Mar 27, 2026 +3

The worry is that Iran can do the same to its Gulf state neighbors if it appears their capacity to even function as a society is being threatened.

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Actual_Load_3914 Mar 27, 2026 +3

but the war only pushes Iran (and in fact, countries all around the world) to increase their military spending.

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Aedeus Mar 27, 2026 +1

We've been told like five or six times now that they don't have any capabilities.

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dummary1234 Mar 27, 2026 +1

Man what a shitshow lmao. This is truly irreversible. Now stopping this is completely outside of US' power.

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hahaz13 Mar 27, 2026 +2

Then do something yourselves f****** greedy lazy fucks.

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No-Tomatillo-7566 Mar 27, 2026 -1

I doubt the substance of this story. The Gulf states probably realize now that the US can't protect them and that Iram is just across the Gulf, armed with a shitload of drones and missiles of all kinds, up to and including hypersoniic ones of which there is no reliable defense. Iraq has become a client state of fanatical aligned Muslims and Americans are retreating from unsecure bases thruout the region. What Iran is doing is similar to the Medieval chevauchee, or the campaigns of burning and looting through enemy territory, designed to prove whomever the local king, duke or lord was could offer them no protection. Right now, it's the Americans promise to protect the Gulf states that's being proven hollow.

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HelloYesItsMeYourMom Mar 27, 2026 +10

That’s the Iranian goal, but it clearly not working. The Gulf States just want Iran gone more than ever. Everyone there hates Iran already. Lebanon is sick of Hezbollah, Saudis hate Houthis, Israel hates Hamas. And say they do kick the US out, now they’ve just made enemies of a much larger economy with a more powerful military, and become subservient to an enemy nation that would now bully them with no pushback. Obviously they want Irans regime taken out.

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The-Williams-Family Mar 27, 2026 +3

Everyone WANTS Iran gone but that’s a whole different question than seeing how much they would commit to actually do that. I heavily doubt any gulf countries would send their own military’s, however limited thier force projection is, as there’s zero plan of what would occur afterwards. Who occupy’s the country? Cost of rebuilding? Not paying for that? Well get prepared for continuous terror fragments in the region

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No-Tomatillo-7566 Mar 27, 2026 -1

Everyone? Russia and China certainly don't (of course Trump is too f****** stupid and compromised to understand Putin wants nothing more to weaken the United States). Nuclear power Pakistan doesn't. Shai co-religious throughout the Gulf region don't. And Iran is the first Muslim state that has proven capable of standing up to Israel and inflicting real harm on the country despite the active participation fo the United States. Do you not think that doesn't resonate with many Muslims? Wishing for regime changee is a dangerous game when you're a bunch of states ruled by obsolete monarchies or fueedal power structures dependent on thousands of "guesst workers,"many of whom share the Shai faith of Iran. Unless the US is willing and able to post something like a NATO like commitment in the Gulf, I don't see any longterm future in which Iran doesn't have hegemony in the Gulf. It's simply the regional state with the most resources and population and is closely allied to two of the world's bigger powers who are willing to arm and support it.

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musty_mage Mar 27, 2026

I'm not sure how the Iranian goal isn't working? There's no question they have suffered losses, but above all so far the conflict has shown that the US has nothing that would actually stop Iran from destroying the infrastructure in the Gulf states. There is no political will to escalate the conflict no matter what Trump & his cronies and the Fox News propaganda machine tells you. Even the events so far have all but quaranteed Trump's impeachment after the midterms. Meanwhile on the Iranian side things certainly aren't great, but the regime is nowhere near collapsing and they have plenty of resources & support to keep fighting.

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IncidentalIncidence Mar 27, 2026 +5

> I'm not sure how the Iranian goal isn't working? Because rather than cause their neighbors to pressure the US to stop the war against them it has caused all of their neighbors to double down on supporting the war and (as we see here) actively push for further escalation.

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musty_mage Mar 27, 2026 +2

What does that matter when those neighbours have nothing to threaten them with? The US involvement isn't dependent on the Gulf states, it's dependent on the political support back home. And that is not increasing as long as oil prices keep rising.

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stonale Mar 27, 2026 +2

It makes sense though. For Gulf states, first preference was not starting the war which US did for Israel . But if US left now than the Gulf states would end up much worse than before the war . Like Iran controlling Hormuz and levying toll itself is catastrophic for all the gulf states. And missile / drone threat is addition on top of that .

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shoguante Mar 27, 2026 +1

Cool, let them go in and degrade them. This isn’t our f****** problem. It’s Israel and the gulf states problem.

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DaySecure7642 Mar 27, 2026 +1

They need to actually help militarily, rather than sit back and encourage the US to do it while banning the bases in their countries to be used to launch the attacks. Or at least invest another 500 billion to the US manufacturing. I mean really do it, not just "pledge" to do it. The US has the military might and the ME countries want to eliminate a long term threat. A good deal can be made.

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FigureMost1687 Mar 27, 2026

gulf states are not real countries , they are run by mob monarchies. their public opinion strongly different from their kings and emirates foreign policies. thats why they dont like Iran because for years they were afraid Iran would import the revolution to Arabian peninsula which would be the end of monarchies. Also public is not pro israel or pro US in this war compared to their kings and emirates supporting US and Israel against Iran . Kings and Emirates know this and thats why they are not going to war against Iran with US and Israel , i dont think their small weak armies would follow their kings command as well against Iran and one thing Kings and Emirates fear is the most their army generals. just to give u a perspective on one state Bahrains 80% of the population is Shia and they are directly connected to Iran's Ayatollah ...this war can turn into local monarchies survival war if US and Israel cant change the regime in Iran ...

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toamnacri Mar 27, 2026

Mission accomplished: Iran’s capacities have been “obliterated” from day one, and America won.

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Dapper_1534 Mar 27, 2026

May be Saudi Arabia should invoke their agreement with Pakistan, and have them fight alongside Israel against Iran.

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TheWizard Mar 27, 2026

And then they wonder when Iran sends its missiles their way, and cry from behind the USA.

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morganml Mar 27, 2026 -5

And did we not just destroy their Navy Air Force and like everything they have militarily infrastructurally and economically? Is that not degradation of capability?

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musty_mage Mar 27, 2026 +2

You didn't actually believe that bullshit?

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morganml Mar 27, 2026

Oh I don't believe anything anymore.

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