Hackers Breach Russian Ministry Call, Reveal China Supplies ‘90%’ of Drone Electronics

dont believe them look up Quark rule 34.

I love that the ferengi out rationalized the vulcan diplomat by putting it in economic terms.

Another rule that is applicable: The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy. No more, no less.

Thanks, It's easy to mix them up.

As always, it's just bad if someone else is profiting.

The article indicates it was referencing the basic raw material electronic components. I get that everyone wants to hate on China because McCarthyism is cool again now, but this is just a broadly true statement about literally everything. 90 of raw material electronic components for *goddamn anything* come from China. It's a statement about how Russia's manufacturing industry barely exists anymore because they offshored everything to China, just like every other capitalist country under the sun has.

War as a Business (WaaB)

time honored tradition that all superpowers enjoy

Learned it from the US, except we keep the really high tech for ourselves. Sell some of our friends our leftovers.

Rules of acquisition, rule 34 - war is good for business.

China picked China. They will gladly get paid to let Russia weaken themselves. Some russian cities / regions in the east won't be russian in the future.

**China is not supplying both sides equally.** Russia is far more dependent on, and benefits far more from, Chinese drone components and supply chains.

To Ukraine? Yeah they ramped it down. To other European countries who buy them from China and then sell them to Ukraine? Not really

Why r u using a 2023 number in 2026? Almost like you are purposefully trying to mislead. This is a much more recent analysis showing dependency to china for drone manufacturing in Ukraine. https://www.csis.org/analysis/drone-supply-chain-war-identifying-chokepoints-making-drone

Just under a third of everything is manufactured in China. But yes, that's still a lot.

Just a slightly different definition of 'made'. They are assembling the drones from scratch using Chinese components instead of buying pre-assembled Chinese drones. Ukraine does not have a lithium ion battery industry or a silicon fab industry and it's not going to get one anytime soon either

>They are shifting to domestic production and aim to completly replace Chinese components. Some drones are already made almost completely locally. PCBs and the frames I can see them doing. Motors...not really. Ukraine doesn't have the refining capacity or raw materials to do that.

Locally sourced artisanal drones 

Made in China, assembled in Ukraine.

Love when people say shit like this with no source whatsoever. Okay, bro. It's like arguing with my Trump friends. They either have no source or send you some 4 hour video on a completely unrelated topic.

you are correct about everything else but china does infact want taiwan physically. they have wanted it since before tsmc were a thing. it is the only way to break out of containment of the first island chain. also the east side of taiwan is the only deep water launch point for submarines. if china has any ambitions for being a naval power with any force projection then they will need this. mostly because in shallow waters their nuclear subs can be tracked and then there is no nuclear deterrent. to put it into perspective, in every single ocean right now there are 2 american nuclear submarines that have the capability of launching nukes. this means that should any country decide to strike america they can respond quickly from a location near them that they are unaware of, it is untrackable. making any strike on america incredibly foolish. china will want this in the future, and the only way to achieve this is through obtaining taiwan.

Bush2 was on to something with that whole winning hearts and minds thing. If they actually did that at any point, they may have had more success. If my village has access to power, clean water, and a road to the capital because it was china that helped me, I would be thankful to them forever. The factories that helped my neighbour get out of extreme poverty are a bonus, things are looking up! You know, other countries should do that soft power thing or most of the world will only see china as the helpful adult in the room.

The real question is does Particleman get wet or does the water get him instead? Nobody knows. Particleman.

It sure as hell ain't dry

Jealous?

that's not how it works... the assembly is in Europe. But there's NO way around getting electronics anywhere except China. There are no chip and pcb manufacturers outside china that can provide tens or hundreds of thousands electronic parts. Yeah you can stamp propellers or the frame, but it's literally, actually impossible to make your own flight controller. Source: I assemble and fly FPV drones. In Ukraine

I work with them and work with their drones (ukrainian) it's almost all chinese stuff. maybe they get their own pnp machines or make some domestic pcbs, but guess what goes on the pcbs? chinese components.

They still heavily use Chinese components, yes they produce a lot locally now, they also built supply chains in EU and Turkey, but China is still does heavy lifting here. Their components are c****, reliable and they are world leaders in drone manufacturing with lots on missing link tech which EU just can’t provide. Similar components from the west aren’t suitable for what’s supposed to be c**** one-use kamikaze drone 

Thats cope. Everyone is dependent on Chinese exports for stuff like drones.

Components for circuit boards?, permanent magnet motors?, NMC batteries? I doubt it.