I once had a marine (he was drunk) pull a gun on me while I was picking up some food that was delivered. The base was a naval hospital so I assume he was there because he either got injured during deployment or was being treated (I was just a sailor stationed there). Anyways this random f****** guy had a gun dug in to my back, he had me drop my food, told me to turn around and had me get in the elevator. He then drunkenly smiled at me and told me to have a nice night.
On military bases you have a lot of mentally unstable soldiers mixed with PTSD and other service related issues combined with LOTS OF ALCOHOL.
Someone is going to get f****** killed by this idiotic decision.
1
SarcasticSelkieApr 3, 2026
+1
When I was in the Navy, we had to have ship wide training on how it was not ok to pistol whip each other.
This stemmed from an incident in PPV (privatized off-base housing for military members) because one sailor got kicked out of a party for being an a******, got into an argument with the female sailors in a different apartment who wanted him to stop screaming about how he deserved to be let back into the party, then cracked one of the women over the back of the head with the butt of the personally owned firearm he’d brought there with him.
We laughed at how ridiculous this training was, but this wasn’t the only guy on board with anger issues, a serious drinking problem, and a history of violent outbursts.
You’re right. An unstable service member is going to hurt someone, themselves, or both.
1
Excellent_Month_2025Apr 3, 2026
+1
Of course he pistol whipped women
1
Downtown_Soil_3651Apr 3, 2026
+1
It's crazy how alcohol is so abundant but marijuana is a schedule 1 drug.
1
Perfect-Topic-6671Apr 3, 2026
+1
And it becomes not crazy, but calculated, when you learn why.
1
TheRealGoldilocksApr 3, 2026
+1
Can you please elaborate? Is it just the alcohol lobby?
1
litivyApr 3, 2026
+1
It was dne by Nixon to be able to criminalise anti-war protestors and destabilise black communities.
1
lesbianmathgirlApr 3, 2026
+1
The other commenter explained why cannabis is schedule 1 (and the reason why US legislation calls it marijuana/marihuana to stigmatize it by using a foreign-sounding name), but the other side to it is the reason why alcohol *isn’t* banned because the government literally can’t. Very famously they tried to and it didn’t go well.
1
AlterMyStateOfMindApr 3, 2026
+1
Prohibition never works, unless you want to use it oppress and enslave people into a for profit prison system
1
Informal_Ad4399Apr 3, 2026
+1
A year before I got to my first duty station, someone stood on top the base hospital with his own rifle and shot at airmen.
This dipshit is so unqualified for his position. Hopefully it isn't for bad reasons, and just naivety and inexperience.
1
MoveMitchGetOutDaWayApr 3, 2026
+5895
This will not end well. Whether it be suicide, fratricide, or matricide, this will not play out like he thinks it will.
>
ETA: Hegseth said his memo directs installation commanders to permit requests from service members to carry personal firearms on base “for personal protection.”
If it's a closed/restricted base, who the f*** do they need protection from? Their fellow brothers/sisters in arms? Like Whiskey Tango actual Foxtrot, Over?!?
5895
2HDFloppyDiskApr 3, 2026
+1
There always reasons policy is written. The ban policy was in place because of past incidents. Lifting this ban shows Hegseth’s ignorance and inexperience.
1
MoveMitchGetOutDaWayApr 3, 2026
+1
Yeah, I know. Its the reason I had to store my weapons at the armory every time I PCS'd (and lived in base housing).
1
2HDFloppyDiskApr 3, 2026
+1
Can’t imagine living in the barracks with a bunch of drunk Marines with condition 1 pistols. This decision won’t last a week before people get killed.
1
SuchBravadoApr 3, 2026
+1
Don’t a number of cabinet members and Trump admin staff live on bases because they’re paranoid of being attacked by “leftwing lunatics?” I’d reckon Hegseth himself is a drunken wife-beater who lives on a base out of irrational fear and wants to have many guns at hand’s reach. Ironic.
1
adibbsApr 3, 2026
+1
he has a wife?
1
ScoobyDoNotApr 3, 2026
+1
Victim.
1
adibbsApr 3, 2026
+1
eh, maybe? I just looked it up and they met while working at FOX, where she currently is employed. Kinda hard to call her a victim when she is willingly doing it to herself.
1
B-KongApr 3, 2026
+1
IIRC, she’s his third wife. And he cheated on his second wife with her, while his second wife was pregnant.
1
D3athRiderApr 3, 2026
+1
Christian family values, everyone!
1
adibbsApr 3, 2026
+1
of course he did ...
1
ResurgentClusterfuckApr 3, 2026
+1
Party of Christian family values right there
1
siouxbee1434Apr 3, 2026
+1
Newt says hold my beer
1
redravin12Apr 3, 2026
+1
It's always the ones you most expect
1
Bee_9965Apr 3, 2026
+1
Another reason Trump hired him.
1
Expensive_Culture_46Apr 3, 2026
+1
The conundrum is that we collectively have more hands.
1
shastaslackerApr 3, 2026
+1
I just remember how rowdy my 25 year old marine roommate was when we went out. Guy must have been wild at 18.
1
weaponjaerevengeApr 3, 2026
+1
That's probably the point. I wonder what a person like Pete Hegseth would do when all these killers suddenly outted themselves, knowing he values brutality.
1
algaefied_creekApr 3, 2026
+1
He’s trying to find the replacement to Army Chief of Staff via Battle Los Angeles meets Hunger Games.
1
JournalistRecent1230Apr 3, 2026
+1
Don't worry, we won't hear about the deaths until a whistleblower leaks it, then MAGA will attack the whistleblower, and the Trump administration will move to discredit them.
1
GgriffinzApr 3, 2026
+1
Exactly, its similar to OSHA regulations for worker safety. Every single one has a reason and every single one was written in blood as it always takes a tragedy to effect change.
1
TemperateStoneApr 3, 2026
+1
No, it shows he doesn't give a f***. He sees a ban on guns and that's all he cares about. Not the hows or whys of it.
He wants violence. He wants people to kill themselves or others. He thinks it weeds out the weak and unworthy.
He's a f****** nazi.
1
LouisWinthorpeIIIApr 3, 2026
+1
I don’t think he wants the violence, he just wants what he perceives to be a culture war win.
He’ll get the violence because he too stupid to anticipate consequences
1
baddieslovebadideasApr 3, 2026
+1
he's worse than a nazi, he has all their awful beliefs, but none of their discipline and planning.
the nazis, as abhorrent as they were, planned things out, understood consequences, stood for something, and wore clothes that fit them well.
these assholes wouldn't have even been able to hack it as nazis, theyre just terrible people and incompetent on top of it all.
He's so f****** bad he's got me defending actual nazis, f*** these assclowns
1
Fight_those_bastardsApr 3, 2026
+1
The Nazis sure as shit didn’t understand the consequences of getting their entire goddamn military addicted to meth and then forcing them to quit cold turkey, though.
1
baddieslovebadideasApr 3, 2026
+1
don't say that too loud or they'll start mandatory meth for the troops
1
DaymubApr 3, 2026
+1
You know we only stopped giving our troops amphetamines in 2002 and even then we only switched to Modafinil (narcolepsy drug)
1
strongbob25Apr 3, 2026
+1
Say what you will about the tenants of national socialism, dude. at least it’s an ethos.
1
AlcibiadesTheCatApr 3, 2026
+1
I am the walrus
1
ShutUpToddApr 3, 2026
+1
Over the line. Mark it zero!
1
TWiTheadApr 3, 2026
+1
> tenants of national socialism
*tenets
1
Herodotus420_69Apr 3, 2026
+1
I think you’re giving too much credit to the third reich
1
baddieslovebadideasApr 3, 2026
+1
or maybe you misunderstand just how little credit I'm giving to kegsbreath&co.
1
AsiaticOneApr 3, 2026
+1
He actually has a lot in common with Hermann Fegelein. Fegelein was a screw up, a social climber and got where he did by sucking up to the senior leaders. He was constantly getting in trouble, getting drunk and having affairs with Allied spys. Rheinard Heydrich wanted to arrest him at one point but he got bailed out by Heinrich Himmler.
1
OceanRacoonApr 3, 2026
+1
You're way overestimating the Nazis here, they were huge idiots and weirdos too, very similar to Trump's carnival of morons. Just because they killed a lot of people doesn't mean they were smart or disciplined.
Does going to war with Russia while not prepared for winter and opening up a second front sound like a well-thought out plan? 😅
1
FizzyBeverageApr 3, 2026
+1
Karma needs to come around very hard to teach him.
1
LostinthestarscapeApr 3, 2026
+1
Not like there is a recent event of a gun advocate claiming "we just have to accept a certain amount of gun violence" ironically being added to said statistic or anything.
More generally, these people forget they have to live in the hell they help create, they think they somehow are protected.
1
TWVerApr 3, 2026
+1
Or he has nefarious reasons.
I’d hate to think this is to empower admin loyalists against constitutional loyalists, to prepare for shit hitting the fan when the admin’s push for unlawful and unconstitutional commands will hit a breaking point within the armed forces.
1
RhiisApr 3, 2026
+1
I remember reading about a regulation banning the storage of radioactive materials in crew quarters on shipping vessels.
To us, now, it's like "well yeah, no shit!". But that regulation was written because some "entrepreneurial" jackass thought he could cut costs.
Some regulations are written for legislation, but some are written in blood.
This ban is a case of the latter.
1
Money_Percentage_630Apr 3, 2026
+1
Australian amd ex military, I love how Americas solution to everything is more guns.
A school shooting results in a spike in gun sales because people are worried that this time the government will do something to restrict access to guns instead of "thoughts and prayers".
1
ares7Apr 3, 2026
+1
I’m surprised they haven’t lowered the age to own guns to 5 so the Kindergartners can come armed.
1
DAS_BEEApr 3, 2026
+1
I'd argue it shows active malice
1
FoofieLeGoogooApr 3, 2026
+1
This man is woefully an under-qualified caricature of a poser military leader. He is a shameful disgrace to the office and severely lacking in honor and integrity.
I have many family members that have served, some career, a few wartime, and this man’s shallow ego and lack of experience and discipline is not what made the US military what it is today, and his reckless lens is going to get many more people needlessly killed.
/rant
1
dimentexApr 3, 2026
+1
As I’ve heard many times over,regulations were written in the blood of those who died screaming.
1
musashisamuraiApr 3, 2026
+1
In this case, I imagine there's a reason Hegseth wants this policy lifted. In the 2000s it was warned by the FBI that extremists and domestic terrorists were infiltrating law enforcement and military nationwide. Get some troops who are more loyal to the proud boys who would be willing to shoot other servivemembers, and now don't need to worry that the guns are locked up or need paperwork.
1
Shaman7102Apr 3, 2026
+1
Hands Iranian terror groups a gift.
1
Leg_Named_SmithApr 3, 2026
+1
Well at least the good news is Stephen Miller lives on a base
1
lettheseatakemeApr 3, 2026
+1
Lol, good point
1
lord_pizzabirdApr 3, 2026
+1
It feels like the suggestion that you might need this on bases is an insult to the security of bases.
Now idk of bases are that bad or not, but the are that sounds a way more concerning issue.
1
HenryDorsettCase47Apr 3, 2026
+1
Well, American military bases are rife with criminal activity, that’s for damn sure.
1
StasRuttApr 3, 2026
+1
lol when we were stationed at West Point two of my dads cadets stole computers from the schools computer lab and sold them at the pawn shop right outside of base and used their military IDs like f****** idiots
1
thandrendApr 3, 2026
+1
America's finest.
1
Informal_Ad4399Apr 3, 2026
+1
I was IT for a maintenance squadron. I did a full equipment inventory when I took the spot. In the dorm manager's office, his computer had been stripped of parts. They left the case and that was it. There hadn't been a dorm manager in a few years, so no telling who took it.
Before that I was a crew chief. We had an airman buy rims with his GTC while we were in Spain during Kosovo. He had them shipped to the dorms.
One guy got busted stealing dip from the BX
A bunch of guys got back from PSAB and broke the dorm vending machine open
One guy was security forces and fell for a base BK employee. She didn't feel the same. So he decided to impress her...by setting a security forces bus on fire in the SFS parking lot.
Makes me cringe when people insinuate that we should automatically trust military and retired military with firearms just because they served. Helll no. Not with the idiots I served with.
1
raevnosApr 3, 2026
+1
So... many... acronyms...
1
PrincessformidableApr 3, 2026
+1
Former army wife. The first thing they tell you in family meetings is don't trust anyone just because they are in uniform.
1
HenryDorsettCase47Apr 3, 2026
+1
Nice. That must’ve been totally reassuring.
1
PrincessformidableApr 3, 2026
+1
I mean living on base definitely isn't some utopia type situation and you see a lot of crazy stuff first hand so I think it's the right call.
My ex and I were more floored when they talked about not having to pawn anything for a month being a good goal.
1
ironballs16Apr 3, 2026
+1
Suicide is 100% the biggest threat.
1
SuchBravadoApr 3, 2026
+1
Doesn’t Hegseth live on a base?
1
highlorestatApr 3, 2026
+1
It's hard NOT to think he's orchestrating his own assassination.
I mean usually someone who has weapons in restricted areas is how you know they're the bad guys.
1
AlbireookamiApr 3, 2026
+1
Or just generally fragging
1
fleeb_florbinsonApr 3, 2026
+1
The boot LTs are all reconsidering having PT at 0400 come Monday
1
fungobatApr 3, 2026
+1
Did you not see the classic movie Body Snatchers (1993)? A military base gets overrun by an alien infestation and Meg Tilly unleashes hell. How DARE you question Pete. How dare you. /s
1
Duane_Apr 3, 2026
+1
Hegseth is definitely the kind of idiot who thinks that murder is cool and suicide is for pussies. I promise, he doesn't care about either.
1
ElkAcrobatic4862Apr 3, 2026
+1
The female version of fratricide is sororicide
1
EvamioneApr 3, 2026
+1
Was looking for this. Matricide is specifically killing your mother. Which may also happen.
1
AFisfulOfPeanutsApr 3, 2026
+1
Huh, well I learned something today.
1
DerSchattenJagerApr 3, 2026
+1
The nerd version of fratricide is lambdalambdalambdacide
1
nono3722Apr 3, 2026
+1
well if your going to stage an armed coup, you make sure your military loyalist are armed before the rest of the military gets the warning...... duh
welcome to the midterms
1
Broken-Digital-ClockApr 3, 2026
+1
Yeah, this reeks of something more sinister than stupidity.
1
OiseaApr 3, 2026
+1
It definitely reeks but it feels like pure stupidity more than coniving intent.
These people are just so f****** inept.
...but also get to make the decisions.
1
Hungry_Muscle_3051Apr 3, 2026
+1
Don't downplay it. You don't suddenly change such a specific rule for no reason.
1
Shot-Possibility-399Apr 3, 2026
+1
People like you downplaying shit like this is why they keep getting away with it. It always ends yo being the sinister reaisj with these people
1
FoodInFrige_HopeSoApr 3, 2026
+1
> It always ends yo being the sinister reaisj with these people
What?
1
Appropriate-Oil555Apr 3, 2026
+1
The much more capable, expensive, and lethal guns are surprisingly easy to get ahold of if you’re in a combat arms unit. A group of loyalists need only enlist the support of, or overpower, a couple different people in the unit to get keys to the arms rooms.
These folks wouldn’t plan a military action with the grab bag of personal weapons soldiers have.
1
army2693Apr 3, 2026
+1
Having been in the military, I've NEVER seen a service member who would pull a gun on another person. NOT! The first weekend this is allowed, people will get shot.
1
Silvery_CricketApr 3, 2026
+1
Hey! It's gonna take at least a week for the paper work to go through, people will get shot on the second weekend.
1
AlecMcEwanExpeditionApr 3, 2026
+1
As a former MP I can say definitively that this is a stupid and terrible idea.
1
careerbyerrorApr 3, 2026
+1
Ex Af SP: duty on base will certainly get more interesting. A couple of other thoughts: service members abroad. How will the host countries react when the service members start killing each other or locals? Okinawa was already not so thrilled with the marines.
Secondly, domestic violence in some services (besides Ft Hood, the marines started allowing new recruits in boot camp to live with spouses. Domestic violence had become a problem. My source is the local newspaper in Jacksonville NC within the last year.
1
ConfederacyOfDunces_Apr 3, 2026
+1
Policy is written in blood. There is a reason we had this rule in place.
Hegseth is a f****** moron.
1
wildwolfay5Apr 3, 2026
+1
Ft. Hood, anyone?
1
Alive_Astronomer3950Apr 3, 2026
+1
Pretty sure the ban was in place during that time.
1
wildwolfay5Apr 3, 2026
+1
It was.
But its not hard to find a disgruntled grunt. Arming them is not the answer... add to that all the feet that are gonna end up shot and the dumbasses in fact lines with shoulder holsters.
Bleh. Haven't to keep it in the armory kept me from getting one until living off post. Was also a lot more responsible by then.
1
Oceanbreeze871Apr 3, 2026
+1
We all saw that episode of band of brothers where the guy goes out and gets psycho drunk and shoots some civilians and then another soldier…
1
bbtom78Apr 3, 2026
+1
Absolutely. I moved near Fort Campbell in the early 2000's and was volunteering at the free store on Post when one soldier started shooting at other soldiers doing PT. A few years later, the suicide crisis happened. I remember some dimwit thought he could just order the soldiers to stop committing suicide and that would fix the problem. Spoiler, it didn't. It turns out, people are going to be violent if they want to be. And don't forget in 2009 when the Fort Hood shooting happened. The military will train someone to kill and then Pikachu face when those soldiers use those skills for their own personal problem solving method.
Mix skilled shooters that know if they seek mental health treatment, they will face consequences in the military for it (so they don't), paired with unhealthy coping mechanisms and a gun, and people are going to die. Mix drunk barracks parties with firearms, and people will die. Mix the military sexual assault and r*** with firearms that more people will be carrying ... People will die.
1
Chemical-Fault-7331Apr 3, 2026
+1
The first junior enlisted that gets NJP from E7 and above is gonna crack and go off on their leadership. Mark my words.
1
Cold_Specialist_3656Apr 3, 2026
+1
So are we gonna have the drunkest a****** on base waving his gun around by next week?
This doesn't seem like a good idea.
And what the f*** do they need "personal protection" from on a f****** military base? They're in a fortress.
I just don't even understand this
1
1877KlownsForKidsApr 3, 2026
+1
It was so damn common when a group of us got shot at during a Copperas Cove BBQ the dispatcher actually asked if we wanted them to respond.
1
kootles10Apr 3, 2026
+435
From the article:
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth announced Thursday that he was lifting a ban on service members’ ability to carry personal firearms on U.S. military bases.
“Our warfighters defend the rights to carry. They should be able to carry themselves,” Hegseth said in a video posted on social platform X.
Hegseth said his memo directs installation commanders to permit requests from service members to carry personal firearms on base “for personal protection.”
What could go wrong?
435
Blackthorn79Apr 3, 2026
+1
Who do the people on a secure military base need to protect themselves from in this fantasy? Considering that you can't get on base unless you either go through the check points or breach the guarded secure parameter the only people they need protection from are the people they are now allowing to be armed.
1
Several-Squash9871Apr 3, 2026
+1
Have you *not* seen the movies where they needed to be armed but weren't???
1
doomgoblinApr 3, 2026
+1
I.. don’t know? What I mean by that is there aren’t many (American) movies I’ve seen where a firearm isn’t either a core part of the action or plot , or wouldn’t be a pivotal moment if it was added? I feel like I’m just gun/violence washed and my brain broke.
1
DyscApr 3, 2026
+281
Hegseth is so fkn weird.
281
zombiegojaejinApr 3, 2026
+1
"Warfighters" is something that sounds cute when a three-year-old says it, before learning big boy words.
1
arizonadirtbag12Apr 3, 2026
+1
It’s a buzzword that’s been used in the DoD community for a couple decades now. He’s just saying it out in town.
Yes, it’s been cringe the whole time.
1
Alive_Astronomer3950Apr 3, 2026
+1
To be fair there is a lot of things the military does that is pretty cringe. We sing songs and chant creeds.
1
daniel_dareusApr 3, 2026
+1
American politics makes much more sense if you assume everyone is 12 yo
Edit: and are secretly influencers in stead of politicians.
1
Ew0ksAmongUsApr 3, 2026
+1
Warfighter is a commonly used phrase, at least when I was in the Army. Not a Hegseth fan, just fyi.
1
Worn_Out_Nikka_LApr 3, 2026
+1
Aaaaaand I’ve known several hot headed warfighters in my military days that I wouldn’t let baby sit my lawn sprinkler for 10 mins let alone carry a loaded weapon around. The E-club parking lot gonna be lit before deployment.
1
JaesopPopApr 3, 2026
+1
His insistence on using it cokes across as very tryhard
1
arizonadirtbag12Apr 3, 2026
+1
He’s a terminal Major in a position he’s grossly unqualified for. Shouldn’t be surprising.
1
strangeluv_-_-Apr 3, 2026
+1
If I hear the word “lethality” or “woke” one more time I swear to god.
He even ruined FAFO.
1
LazyTitan39Apr 3, 2026
+1
He reeks of insecurity.
1
peeple-pleeserApr 3, 2026
+1
"Weird" is the wrong fkn word
1
AlwaysSeekAdventureApr 3, 2026
+1
He’s definitely something, weird isn’t what immediately jumps to mind.
1
DarkenRevanApr 3, 2026
+1
I would say extremely cringe whenever he opens his mouth. I’ve heard retired generals laugh at him on NPR because they think he’s compensating and hiding something and is all around laughable.
1
KunflikttApr 3, 2026
+34
This guy doesn’t understand what he is gonna be responsible for…
34
ScoutsterReturnsApr 3, 2026
+1
Oh, don't worry. These people are never responsible for anything.
1
inksmudgedhandsApr 3, 2026
+1
This is the Trump administration. They won't accept responsibility for anything. "That's for chumps!"
1
DjajaApr 3, 2026
+1
I just have the worst feeling about this.
Something abrewing
1
Oceanbreeze871Apr 3, 2026
+1
Looks at Fort Hood
1
Klutzy-Delivery-5792Apr 3, 2026
+1
Why do military personnel need to carry firearms on a military installation "for personal protection"?
I grew up with a career military father. We lived on all manner of posts/bases/shipyards of every branch except marines. I was in the army for several years myself, two of which overseas. Never did I see any need to carry a weapon. Quite the opposite.
I even have a concealed carry permit now. I've only ever carried once in all my years. That day was Jan 6, 2021. I wish I was being facetious.
1
Character-Education3Apr 3, 2026
+1
We had junior supply guy have a negligent discharge in his living room and nearly shoot his kid. It was in post housing
Good idea Mr. Kegsbreath
1
ObjectiveDark40Apr 3, 2026
+1
Lol Pete doesn't see the problem.
Let's swap some words to represent our other amendments
>Our warfighters defend the rights to freedom of speech. They should be able to openly criticize the president”
Yeah I'm sure Pete would love to support that one.
1
escapefromelbaApr 3, 2026
+1
Surprised with all the White House staff staying on military bases that they would want to risk that.
1
GwyllitharApr 3, 2026
+1
Yeah...there is a reason these rules were put in place.
also, what do military personal, on secure bases, need protection from?
1
Ew0ksAmongUsApr 3, 2026
+1
There was a huge push for this about a decade ago after a green on green mass shooting on Ft Hood. The argument at the time was “They are all trained on firearms but can’t have them just because they are on base?” DOD decided to keep it as is.
1
Educational-Double34Apr 3, 2026
+1
Everyone in similar uniforms with probably similar firearms, one bad actor turns into everyone shooting each other
1
monkeyshinezApr 3, 2026
+1
Calling it now. There's going to be an attempted military coup.
1
ranhaltApr 3, 2026
+1
Pushing women and immigrants out of the military is a step in that direction. Get rid of large chunks of likely opposition.
1
MylaptopisburningmeApr 3, 2026
+1
One of the original goals of Project 2025 when I first learned of it before their playbook was to install loyalists in all branches of government. So far they have removed many of the top military people. I assume to install loyalists.
1
monkeyshinezApr 3, 2026
+1
Not too mention ensuring sympathetic cult members are now allowed to carry personal weapons on base. Makes seizing military assets much easier.
1
istapledmytongueApr 3, 2026
+1
Oh shit. That’s not outta the realm of possibility with these smooth brains
1
RednevaLApr 3, 2026
+1
What’s crazy in this context the coup could either be pro or anti maga. Imagine a Cheeto-pedo loving junta?
1
MEOWS_R_RADApr 3, 2026
+1
He and Stephen Miller both live on bases.
Just saying
1
EngagedInConvexationApr 3, 2026
+1
Gonna be a lot of base-model Chargers and Camaros flooding the used market through estate sales.
1
WutYoYoApr 3, 2026
+1
Damn, that's cold.
1
FatPoundOfGrassApr 3, 2026
+1
F****** brutal lol
1
jewfro451Apr 3, 2026
+1
This made me laugh.
1
apoca1ypse12Apr 3, 2026
+1
what the f*** is this piece of shit trying to do?
1
HobbesNJApr 3, 2026
+1
Become and even bigger piece of shit.
1
shutupyourenotmydadApr 3, 2026
+1
Either A. Prepare for a coup or B. False Flag Op incoming
Literally the only 2 logical conclusions to draw from this.
1
ProudMtnsApr 3, 2026
+1
Hasn't there been multiple mass murders on bases in recent years? There's probably a reason that this was in place. There's a reason the military or Leo's don't carry personal firearms for a reason. Full stop. See ice. I'm also assuming there's a very nefarious reason this is being pushed aside.
1
Oceanbreeze871Apr 3, 2026
+1
Fort Hood is notorious
“Fort Hood Deaths (2020): Over 25 deaths, including murders and suicides, were reported, leading to independent investigations that found a "troubling culture" of leadership.”
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Disencouraged_OtterApr 3, 2026
+1
Hasn't stopped, and it's not just Hood, and they're denying families access to personal items like phones afterwards.
I know of a couple families who's children have allegedly committed suicide on bases in the past year. There's shady shit already going on, and I feel terrified for any females living on base, especially after this happens.
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unkyduckApr 3, 2026
+1
Let's do a quick cost-benefit analysis.
Benefits: Anybody ? Anybody ?
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ArgentNobleApr 3, 2026
+1
>Benefits: Anybody ? Anybody ?
That's an easy one. Mass shootings boost gun sales. So the pro-con list looks like this:
Pro - More money for the 1%
Cons - People the Government doesn't care about die
So you can see why the current administration is pushing for this. I would expect an article to come out regarding the Trump family buying firearm manufacturer stocks yesterday.
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justbunniesApr 3, 2026
+1
He really wakes up every day and decides to do the stupidest things.
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Lostsailor73Apr 3, 2026
+1
Weirdo
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indorianApr 3, 2026
+1
Oh good grief this will create a nightmare. He really doesn’t understand any of this…
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Ok_Speech_3709Apr 3, 2026
+1
….And the murder and suicide rates on bases increased from that moment on.
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EwingsRevenge21Apr 3, 2026
+1
And potential fragging of commanders....
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DeadSuperHeroApr 3, 2026
+1
Speaking as a vet, the sheer amount of dumb shit that happens on base, that could potentially kill people, is already high. More often than not, the root cause is neglect towards following basic safety procedures.
Carrying personal firearms is just going to make everything worse. It's bad enough when someone in your unit gets a DUI, imagine what this will be like.
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Buddy_SatanApr 3, 2026
+1
I have no knowledge of military procedure. What happens when someone in your unit gets a DUI? Like everyone is punished? Thanks in advance.
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DeadSuperHeroApr 3, 2026
+1
It depends on a lot of different factors, but usually boils down to collective punishment and a decrease in morale. Usually, we'd get called in on the weekend to get chewed out for failing to police our own, but it's not uncommon to have privileges taken away as repeat offenses stack up. The punishments would get progressively worse, culminating in blues inspections, revocation of shift cutbacks, mandatory double shifts, and cancellation of unit-wide team-building days.
In the older days of the Air Force, people caught with DUIs used to be forced to hold a sign in front of the base as everyone drove in for work. Usually it would say something like "I'm Sgt. Namehere, and I got arrested for drunk driving."
In the case of mishandling / misusing a personal firearm and getting someone injured or killed, I have no idea what would happen. I know just about everybody would be emotionally devastated as a result. Morale would take a massive hit.
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danielle1978Apr 3, 2026
+1
What a dumb piece of shit he is.
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Ex-mavenApr 3, 2026
+1
Any bets that Kegseth will ban servicemembers from carrying firearms on any base where he and/or Dear Leader are visiting? ...in case someone experiences an intrusive thought
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souportruperApr 3, 2026
+1
I worked on a base as a civilian where service members could have guns and wouldn't you know, a jealous lover killed two people and himself with a gun on a whim one day
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SemichiSamApr 3, 2026
+1
Has anyone asked an MP what they think of this?
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arizonadirtbag12Apr 3, 2026
+1
Probably the same thing cops think of expanded concealed carry laws off of military installations. They've almost universally opposed them.
I've opposed concealed carry for a good long time, to be clear. But it *is* funny that for some reason military posts are the one place we can make subsidized housing, a living wage, universal health care, and gun control work. Everywhere else it's "this is America, dammit!"
EDIT: Of course, this also begs the question of why on this sub are we suddenly asking what cops think about things. Do we normally side with police on political matters?
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SemichiSamApr 3, 2026
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*"why on this sub are we suddenly asking what cops think about things."*
Not 'we'. I am asking. I don't have a side in this, because I don't know enough about it to have an opinion. I form my opinions after gathering all the available facts. It seems obvious that the opinion of the people who deal with violence and lawlessness on military installations would have value here. I have been out of the military since the early 1960s. I assume my knowledge is very much out of date.
The Charge of the Light Brigade was ordered by an officer who didn't know the facts on the ground. If Hegseth were a competent leader, he could still be woefully underinformed, but available evidence suggests that he is not competent to lead, in part because he would never ask the question I asked, and would not be interested in knowing the answer, as you seem also not to be.
(Forgive my pedantry. It's a petty matter, I know, but it "raises the question". "begging the question" is a common term for the logical error petitio principii)
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sumgaijusthere4civApr 3, 2026
+1
Hopefully to defend themselves from Pete Hegseth
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supercali45Apr 3, 2026
+1
putting a Fox News piece of shit in charge.. f*** all the Republicans for allowing this
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JakepointOApr 3, 2026
+1
We’re about to see some shootings on bases.
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chriskot123Apr 3, 2026
+1
What. In. The. F***. Do. They. Need. Personal. Protection. From. On. A. Military. Base.
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clsmn13Apr 3, 2026
+1
Suspicious timing with Bondi getting fired and a lot of the administration living on military bases.
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D_PlisskenApr 3, 2026
+1
There is no good reason for this unless they WANT shootings on bases.
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DrRealNameApr 3, 2026
+1
Well this is going to end very badly. All I will say to the non magas in the military, is make sure you are armed because those neo nazis are mostly likely being given a green light to go after you.
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Odd-Independent-3858Apr 3, 2026
+1
Your country is a f****** gong show.
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masterofbeastApr 3, 2026
+1
He is arming everyone, getting rid of people that do not agree with him, and hiring his cronies that are fanatics. This is a step closer to a fascist take over and just about everyone in position of power will be loaded. Watch out for order 66.
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TheDriestOneApr 3, 2026
+1
If there’s a draft after this, a lot of commanding officers are going to get shot. This administration is crazy to watch, they want to be despots so bad but they keep tossing banana peels on the ground that they then proceed to slip on.
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LinkovichChomovsky82Apr 3, 2026
+1
Is this a plot to eliminate officers within the military that oppose the regime?
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minnesotaupnorthApr 3, 2026
+1
*Ft. Hood has entered the chat.*
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ZerobeastlyApr 3, 2026
+1
These are the decisions that someone would make if they wanted to cause discourse and destruction from the inside out.
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DIYPeaceApr 3, 2026
+1
Wow. What a horrible decision and the risk that poses for MPs…
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CrimsonHereticApr 3, 2026
+1
All Republicans are fascist domestic terrorists.
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Still_Opportunity_10Apr 3, 2026
+1
Dipshit move. Not surprised at all.
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Anal-buttsexApr 3, 2026
+1
I sure hope they’re drinking responsibly when they carry. 😄
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fuckswitbeaversApr 3, 2026
+1
How ironic. All of trumps loser admin are hiding out on military bases. And now they loosen firearm control? Ha
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IlikeJGApr 3, 2026
+1
Jesus Christ this is some sort of bizarro land.
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BernieFeetPicsApr 3, 2026
+1
He wants soldiers loyal to Trump to kill soldiers who aren’t.
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AlanShore60607Apr 3, 2026
+1
On the same day he fires the Army Chief of Staff.
If I were suspicious, I would say Hegseth wants certain officers armed so they don't have to go to the armory during an emergency.
If I were suspicious. Because that would also be hopeful to suggest he is afraid of something.
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SappyGemstoneApr 3, 2026
+1
All I know is that multiple architects of the current administration are living on military bases "for their safety" right now.
That's all I know.
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Chrisdkn619Apr 3, 2026
+1
What good could come of this?!
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Complete_Question_41Apr 3, 2026
+1
Yeah, cause the ban wasn't there for a reason?
They want shit to go south so bad. And they're succeeding on all fronts.
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CraamronApr 3, 2026
+1
Isn't Stephen Miller currently cowering in a military base?
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SereneDreams03Apr 3, 2026
+1
There will be a huge uptick in suicides on base after this. I have at least one friend who is only alive today because he wasn't allowed to keep his personal guns with him on base.
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totalkpoliticsApr 3, 2026
+1
Soooo....the whole terrorist attack everyone has been worried about is going to happen on a military base. Hegseth is 100% the guy in the military who was always ranting about glass this glass that because he has no concept of soft power, negotiations, or global politics. He truly is a f****** d*****.
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JellyfishUnlikely223Apr 3, 2026
+1
This is being allowed to open doors for something sinister. Don’t mean to be a conspiracy theorist but mutineers love this one simple trick.
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PDXGuy33333Apr 3, 2026
+1
The first shooting on a US military base will occur before the ink is dry on his order. They will call it an accident.
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Plenty-Excitement864Apr 3, 2026
+1
One might consider that bases also contain… families… children… schools… and unstable individuals will pack weapons among them.
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fxkattApr 3, 2026
+1
>*The secretary added that these requests can be denied, but that the “presumption is service members will be able to have their Second Amendment right on post.”*
Not good for the wives and children in military families (past records of violence and murders back this up)
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nolongerbanned99Apr 3, 2026
+1
How long before someone gets drunk and upset and shoots someone
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tHEyleftRightApr 3, 2026
+1
What would they possibly need to be protecting themselves from while inside the perimeter of a military base with entrance being monitored for authorized entry by armed security personnel?
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Jeromes_PornostacheApr 3, 2026
+1
There are very, very good reasons, based on centuries of experience, not to allow soldiers to carry loaded firearms outside of combat or training situations. Armed forces personnel can have bad days too.
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Good_BriefsApr 3, 2026
+1
I won't be surprised when hegseth decides to host a televised battle royale at this point.
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kerkulaApr 3, 2026
+1
What could possibly go wrong?
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AlsoCommiePuddinApr 3, 2026
+1
Why?
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MaybeSaulApr 3, 2026
+1
Pete should go visit some bases once this lifts. Check out how it’s going.
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