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Earl_I_Lark Apr 16, 2026 +14

The bit about making babies had me chuckling. I’m old now, and we did have kids, so I can say that Stephen’s bit about putting people in the mood and encouraging more sex is a little short sighted in reality. Sure, have great sex, make a baby, and then say goodbye to wild, unfettered, do it anywhere the mood strikes, sex for at least the next 18 years.

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simca75 Apr 16, 2026 +36

Yes. He is an anti christ

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WaffleFangStorm Apr 16, 2026 +25

If he’s the Antichrist, he’s really dropping the ball on the whole “charismatic world conqueror” part. At best we’ve got the Dollar Store version.

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BoDrax Apr 16, 2026 +3

There seems to be a Dollar General or Family Dollar at every shopping center in the US

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Quirky-Tumbleweed155 Apr 16, 2026 -32

How can he complain about fertility and be Pro-Choice? [https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2024/apr/11/colbert-kimmel-republican-abortion-bans-arizona](https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2024/apr/11/colbert-kimmel-republican-abortion-bans-arizona) These people are ridiculous.

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dmtripwithme Apr 16, 2026 -43

You know Trump existed before being president, right? Before being president, he was universally liked around the world across political isles. He weirdly always has been. He would have weird movie cameos and was just, for some reason, liked. For the antichrist story this fits like a glove. Once his rule starts, that's when he gets exposed and stops being liked universally. So it does actually fit. I just want to be done with the Bible so it'd be nice to move this plot along so we can get to the next thing thanks. edit: yum thanks for the downvotes. Just to clarify, though I feel I am communicating with largely mindless thralls, this isn't some endorsement. It is just an observation that the glove fits. This guy is the antithesis of Christ. Before he had any real power he was an entertainer and people were generally entertained or didn't think about him. He was less controversial than the Kardashians, for example. Some of you were grossed out? Okay neat, I am skeptical if you would be saying that in the 90s. Realistically it would be a short thought, but if you saw him somewhere you would be like "I think that's DonaldTrump?" and if he decided to say something to you or acknowledge your existence, you would be tickled by it. That's what "liked" means. If you were capable of going back without your current biases this would be an obvious observation. But you're not and that's alright. It just illustrates how so many human beings keep allowing Hitler-esque patterns to continuously arrive.

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clevercognomen Apr 16, 2026 +27

He was most certainly *not* universally liked. What sort of revisionist history is this?

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3MinuteHero Apr 16, 2026 -21

He definitely had a much more overall positive response prior to his involvement in politics. Edit: I'm sorry we're not having a good time with him right now, but this reactionary nonsense is exactly why we're fucked as a country. He was a pop culture fixture for 20 to 30 years prior to the Obama birther nonsense he started. He had multiple successful pieces of media not least of which was a major reality show thay had the whole country saying a stupid catchphrase for years. If you think the above is me somehow endorsing him then you are a f****** idiot. Get your heads out of your asses. It's possible to levy the most severe criticisms at him as a leader and as a person while simultaneously acknowledging the reality of his trajectory.

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StJeanMark Apr 16, 2026 +13

When I was a kid in the 90s I remember walking into a family friend's pool room. Sitting on the counter was a stack of board games. I flipped through them and when I got to one everyone started laughing. "What a joke, I cant believe we still have that, so embarrassing". It was the Trump board game. I spent the 90s and 00s listening to Howard Stern, where he was painted as a giant joke and a loser, a pervert and a criminal. It wasn't until The Apprentince repackaged him that people started to think he was anything but dirt. He was already a clown and real money wouldn't touch him IN THE 80S!

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dmtripwithme Apr 16, 2026 -8

Right. He was a recognizable clown. He made people laugh. He was not taken as serious. This doesn't change anything? Like-ability has nothing to do with seriousness.

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3MinuteHero Apr 16, 2026 -10

You think the Apprentice repackaged him? OK first off, do you think a simple reality show would be enough to repackage a person who everyone hated as much as people want to believe? OK here's another one. Your singular personal anecdote aside, if he was so hated why did he have dozens of cameos across the 80s and 90s across television and movies? Why would anyone attach someone so reviled to their media even for a second? God i f****** hate that I have to sit here and sound like I'm defending this a****** because you guys want so bad to believe this guy was a failure from start to finish.

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ShepPawnch Apr 16, 2026 +10

Which should really just show how negatively people view him now. For god’s sake, he was the inspiration for Biff Tannen in *Back to the Future II*

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3MinuteHero Apr 16, 2026 -12

We understand how negatively people view him now. Even back then he had critics. He was the original "I'll sue you" guy a weaponizer of the courts, flooding the system with frivolous lawsuits because he could afford to do it. But he was also a pop culture icon for decades. You can draw a straight line from him learning how to be successful in pop media to his rise to power. We are all susceptible to that type of manipulation and ironically, the only thing that makes us less susceptible to it is to acknowledge that it exists within us.

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Dorwyn Apr 16, 2026 +5

He was widely regarded as a piece of shit from people seeing the real him on the Apprentice. People came to watch the piece of shit because it was entertaining, but nobody watched it because they liked him.

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dmtripwithme Apr 16, 2026 -6

This, 100%. I always thought the guy was a clown, a ridiculous caricature of capitalism. I was a minority. The first time he ran, I suspected he would win because of his popularity and the general rampant stupidity. It proved accurate. To see people now rewrite history and act like they all could see who he was is laughable. Most of these people would have been celebrity gushing if they met him prior to his political involvement. To say otherwise is pure nonsense. This type of denial and false revisionist history is exactly how these messes began. Fact is, these people didn't see the evil of his being prior to his political entry. They are using their current perspective to project on their views in the past. End of story. I like to get to the truth of things, and be honest with how we got here. Unfortunately I have found myself in a significant minority. You seem to be in the same place. Take the downvotes with pride.

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3MinuteHero Apr 16, 2026

Nobody knows how to think anymore. Someone could come here claiming Trump used to walk up 5th Avenue wearing nipple clamps in broad daylight, and if you try to say otherwise its taken as a defense of the man. People don't care about what's true anymore.

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dmtripwithme Apr 16, 2026

They don't and it is sad to witness. The reality in this case is that if Trump had shown up to anyone's door here in the 90's, they would be tickled and delighted. It is easy in retrospect to feel a certain way, but it is so blatantly dishonest. I understand "blind with hate" clearly now.

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dmtripwithme Apr 16, 2026 -14

Uh...what? He could go to any country in the world and he'd be "liked" prior to the politics. He was mingling with all the elite everywhere, no one was closing their door to him. He had access and the general populace either didn't think of him , were tickled by him, or otherwise had a not-negative view. In general I would simply characterize this as "liked"

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Thisthattheother1 Apr 16, 2026 +10

Bro, I don't know what world you live in, but speaking as someone not from the US, people have thought Trump was a f****** idiot WAY before he was ever president.

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dmtripwithme Apr 16, 2026 -2

Thinking someone was an idiot or a joke is not about likability and is irrelevant to the point. If he went to a restaurant in Japan in the 90's would he be: a) welcomed like a celebrity or b) ridiculed, hated, and denied? If he went to a concert in Rio de Janeiro in Brazil, would he be: a) partying like a celebrity or b) pushed out / attacked / outcasted? The joke of him was part of his idiot charm. The point of likability isn't about being an idiot, being a clown, or not being taken seriously. It is about reception, mobility, and acceptance. He was a pop culture fixture for a long time. That is how he stupidly managed to get elected to begin with. To say otherwise is delusion.

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Thisthattheother1 Apr 16, 2026 +3

The delusion is to think that people had any sort of positive opinion about him. I never said he was viewed as a lovable idiot, I said he was viewed as an idiot. Nobody liked him. You're digging this hole based on nothing.

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dmtripwithme Apr 17, 2026 -1

Fascinating. It seems people have learned nothing. I wonder if the next iteration will move the needle.

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InvestigatorOk7015 Apr 16, 2026 +8

Nah. People have shit talked that dork since the 80's

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FistyMcTwistynuts Apr 16, 2026 +6

Oh, the Biff Tannen (in Back to the Future 2) inspiration was viewed as a good guy back then? Guess I must’ve mistaken who the protagonists were in that one. He was a damn joke then, and now the joke’s on us, only it’s tragic and more of a Shakespearean “comedy” than a modern one.

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IntoTheMusic Apr 16, 2026 +11

He had cameos in movies because he had a stipulation that if filmmakers wanted to film at his properties, they had to give him a cameo in their movies. Home Alone director Chris Columbus talked about how he didn't want Trump in the movie but they really needed to shoot at the Plaza Hotel, which Trump owned. He ultimately just dealt with it.

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simca75 Apr 17, 2026 +2

Simply put an anti christ is a deceiver. He is a deceiver. Through out history there have been antichrists. I am with the pope assessment on this one.

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IrrelevantLeprechaun Apr 16, 2026 +3

The weird thing I find with the whole antichrist angle is that many people argue that American Christianity is at the heart of a lot of the problems with both the president and the country. And yet we are using that same American Christianity as a tool *against* itself by committing to this antichrist rhetoric? It just doesn't make sense to me. Religion shouldn't be anywhere near government no matter which side you're on.

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MustrumRidcully0 Apr 18, 2026 +2

Yeah, while it's funny that they religious extremists apparently don't realize that by the standards of their own religion, they are following someone that is not just violating its tenets, but also behaves like an evil figure in their claims, and if their religion was true, they'd probably be punished for it. But truth to be told, it doesn't matter if he's the anti-christ to non-religious (or non-Christian) people because they don't believe there even is an anti-christ in the first place, but he very well is a corrupt ,narcissistic liar that is causing harm to countless of people for personal gains, and that a bunch of people have been duped to believe he's acting in their interest when he isn't. He's harming people in the real world, not just in make-believe after-life/after-apocalypse scenarios. And that isn't really funny at all, that's really alarming, if not terrying, but also sad, because it's so pointless.

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IrrelevantLeprechaun Apr 18, 2026 +1

It's not just that he's duped millions into believing he's the best thing to ever happen to america. It's also that the *other* millions that expressly hate him also have bought into the idea that there is functionally nothing anyone can do about it. The eroding of education across generations has "peace-washed" a lot of American history in the sense that people were taught that a lot of important civil rights moments were won through peaceful albeit persistent protest *and nothing else.* All the threats of violence and *actual* violence seems to have been either diluted or simply not taught at all. MLK for example: I see *a lot* of people cite him as a moment where peaceful protest "worked," but don't seem to be aware of the concurrent Malcolm X/Black Panthers movement. Even MLK historically admitted he didn't believe his movement would have gotten as far if not for the threat of violent revolt that Malcolm X provided. The most effective protests have always had the threat of "if you don't negotiate while we are peaceful, then we can get less peaceful really fast." The threat is what gives it momentum even if the threat never has to be followed up on. So you end up with a lot of people who say "how can you say we did nothing when we went to No Kings last month?" Having the threat of violence waiting in the wings if peace is not respected is absent and people don't seem to be aware of that.

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AllChem_NoEcon Apr 16, 2026 +2

But really though, he’s the f****** antichrist.

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arul20 Apr 16, 2026 +3

Apparantly it's a anti-immigrant Christian Nationalist group out of the UK: https://x.com/KnightsTempOrg Nice to see Trump is pissing off the Nazis now too.

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myfatass Apr 16, 2026

I guess this is what inevitably happens when let some braindead mentally ill ultra-narcissistic anarchocapitalist who believes in literally nothing except the supremacy of fame and fortune spew one word salad after another for a decade straight. Eventually, there’s enough for everyone to hate, even Nazis.

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elon_musks_cat Apr 16, 2026 +22

There’s still a strong “Kamala would have been just as bad” crowd. It’s unbelievable how willfully ignorant people are. They think “do your own research” means just scroll through their algorithm faster

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Sprinklypoo Apr 16, 2026 +3

Misogyny is still a real issue for sure.

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IrrelevantLeprechaun Apr 16, 2026 -1

Okay, and? Yeah we get it; some Americans are stupid. But we hear constantly how "not all Americans are that stupid." So what are we supposed to think about *them*? They seem to be more preoccupied with telling everyone within earshot how *not* at fault they are, than with coming up with any kind of actionable plans. Just an endless cavalcade of "I got work tomorrow, don't expect me to do shit." There won't be some magical NATO intervention that saves Americans from big mean Trump. No Hollywood hero that rises from the rank and file to tell everyone specifically how to fight tyranny. And there's certainly no comfy off ramp where fascism is defeated neatly and cleanly without anyone being inconvenienced. The "sane" population needs to seriously start weighing their options; do they experience risky inconvenience now, or do they risk existential danger *later*? It is and has always been up to The People. And right now the inaction of those People is causing global hurt to *everyone*, not just Americans.

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nwilz Apr 16, 2026 -9

It would be hard to as bad as Trump is now, but Kamala said our biggest enemy is Iran, attacked "isolationists" and campaigned with Liz f****** Cheney

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Sprinklypoo Apr 16, 2026 +1

Counterpoint: She seems fairly reasonable.

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nwilz Apr 16, 2026 -2

Wow great point. Counterpoint: she's not

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ArtIsMyWholeSoul Apr 16, 2026 +1

Please get off Listnook and talk to a real person.

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IrrelevantLeprechaun Apr 16, 2026 -3

America's leadership is the responsibility of *all* it's citizens. Blame and responsibility are not the same thing mind you; a store supervisor may not be to blame when one of their staff knocks over a pallet of coca cola, but they are still responsible for coordinating it's cleanup. This finger pointing blame game is just covering up a reality many don't want to confront. It's all well and good to know who contributed to all this happening, but it's still the reality we are stuck with, and levying blame just takes up valuable time. If someone voted Harris, that's great. They are not to *blame*. But they are *still responsible*. People get offended because they conflate blame with responsibility, when as I said, they are not the same thing. Until Americans as a whole can understand that, nothing will change.

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Balooz 4 days ago +1

Goddamn I’ll be glad when they stop posting this dipshits show all the f****** time!!!!

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worksnake Apr 16, 2026 -14

He's not the f****** Antichrist, the Antichrist nonsense is part of the same harmful mythology as all the other Christian nationalist nonsense. It's all fake, y'all. It's not helpful to help the crazies lean into their already bullshit apocalyptic blood magic religion.

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fronchfrays Apr 16, 2026 +11

Nothing mythical about it. He is antithetical to the teachings of Christ in every way. Even if Christ is just a story, the lessons have intention.

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worksnake Apr 16, 2026 -7

The Antichrist is mythical. A man god sacrificing himself to himself is mythical. A big ol fuckfest of an apocalypse foretold by Greco-Judeans 2,000 years ago is mythical. The entire thing is mythical and dumb and we shouldn't encourage the Christofascists by using their language and affirming their bullshit worldview.

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xxxblindxxx Apr 16, 2026 +2

the problem is they believe in that bullshit to the point of making international policies to support Israel because its the promised holy land. they want the end of times to happen so they can go to their heaven.

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3MinuteHero Apr 16, 2026 +4

There is highly convincing evidence that the writer of Revelation was talking about Nero. So at minimum we can still take Revelation as an account of the cyclical nature of tyrant worship and that we will always be susceptible to it unless we pay more attention.

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worksnake Apr 16, 2026 +1

Paul didn't write Revelation. Revelation is the ranting of a religious lunatic. It doesn't matter that the lunatic was writing about Nero. We shouldn't listen to ranting lunatics. There are humans that aren't lunatics writing about the Neros of the world. Those are the humans we should listen to, and quote, and use as instructive. This religious bullshit is bullshit. We should dump it out. It is worthless.

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greennurse61 Apr 16, 2026 -14

I didn’t know he was so religious. He needs to stop pushing religion.

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