Summary (from article):
* Israel says Lebanon not included in U.S.-Iran ceasefire, continues strikes and evacuations
* Hezbollah lawmaker says Israel must join truce or it will collapse
* French President Macron, Lebanese officials urge Lebanon's inclusion in ceasefire
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asdhjasdhlkjashdhgf2 days ago
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Hezbollah has lawmakers?
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planck13132 days ago
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Hezbollah has 13 seats in Lebanon's 128 seat parliament.
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[deleted]2 days ago
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chemist58182 days ago
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They are both hezbollah and Lebanese lawmakers. It's like saying "democratic lawmaker says X" and you respond "actually they're American lawmakers!"
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Melinoe20162 days ago
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Hezbollah is their party. Do you not call republicans “republican lawmakers” ? Most people do
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MaxPlanck_4202 days ago
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Yes, as long as you are only talking about politicians they are Lebanese. When they attack Israel it is Hezbollah attacking and not Lebanon. But when Israel attacks Hezbollah, they are actually attacking Lebanon. This all make sense now?
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DingbatGnW2 days ago
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Yes... what kind of question is that? 😂
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lancersrock2 days ago
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Western media talks about Hezbollah like they are ISIS, terrorist organizations typically don't have legal representation in the govt.
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dfiner2 days ago
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This is one of those cases where both are true. Most Lebanese (including the real government) want nothing to do with them. They are an Iranian proxy that supports and funds terror attacks. They are so numerous in Lebanon that they were able to muscle their way into “legitimacy” (quotes doing a lot of heavy lifting here).
Lebanon is also extremely diverse with multiple muslim sects, Christian’s, and Druze. But Hezbollah is only located in one of the communities (Shia Muslims) and actively shunned by the rest. Most hate Hezbollah so much that they assume any Shia Muslims are associated which causes additional tension in the country.
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ElCaminoInTheWest2 days ago
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Let's not get into pseudo-legitimising backwards theocratic shitheels, if possible.
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arathorn32 days ago
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Fatah in The West Bank is the poltical arm of the PLO, Hamas is actually the name of the political wing of the the terrorist group officially known ad the Al-Qassam Brigades. Badr isnthe political wing of the Iranian Proxy PMF in Iraq's.parliament.
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phantom-firion2 days ago
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Stop sanewashing Hezbollah. ISIS also had its own civil service network you don’t see people claiming it’s a legitimate state now do you? If anything Hezbollah being parliament shows how deep the tendrils of this terror org reach and how deep the roots that need to be pulled and burnt are .
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lancersrock2 days ago
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I'm not sanewashing Hezbollah, just saying why people might be confused. ISIS is always portrayed as a terrorist org vs Hezbollah is treated a little more "official" in us media.
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Unlucky_Accountant712 days ago
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That's because they are like isis. Wtf
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Sea-Cheesecake3012 days ago
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No. Hezbollah is a terrorist organization like ISIS because they also participate in terrorism.
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Melinoe20162 days ago
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America has democrat and republican lawmakers even though they are all American politicians. This isn’t super tough
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faffc2602 days ago
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due to how fucked lebanon's political system is with segregated positions for certain religious sects and a required % of representation iirc (could be wrong) it's much easier for a popular terrorist group to have a successful political wing when they are part of one of the sects with guaranteed representation.
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FeatureSeparate4042 days ago
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Yeah... its like the MAGA of the middle east.
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MiserableTennis65462 days ago
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Iran's suggested ten point plan demands a stop to strikes in Lebanon. This is going well.
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daywall2 days ago
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This is a different ceasefire plan.
That plan is from Pakistan and China.
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phoenixmusicman2 days ago
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Nope. Iran says Ceasefire wont hold if Israel keeps up operations in Lebanon.
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HummusSwipper1 day ago
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Hezbollah absolutely did not stop attacks, there have been \~10 rocket launches by it in the last day
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No-Faithlessness28792 days ago
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Not saying Israel is right or wrong but this is on Lebanon to get their shit together. They banned Hezbollah but still allow them to dominate the country. If Lebanon wants peace with Israel, they need to get rid of the recognized Terrorist organization that is running their country. Its as simple as that.
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SP15702 days ago
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You understand nothing about Lebanon and the middle east... it's simple as that.
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Due-Department-89062 days ago
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If the USA had a massive faction of Texans who were a particular religion amongst themselves and formed militias hundreds of thousands strong to attack Mexico with weapons sold by Russia, it would be on the USA to end that. Otherwise, Mexico attacking Texas would be completely fair game.
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Song-Historical2 days ago
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They only exist in this hypothetical scenario if the US doesn't have a real military and Mexico:
a) refuses to recognize or declare their own borders and keeps grabbing more land, 'establishing a buffer zone', moving settlers into said buffer zone then saying they need more buffer because someone lobbed a rock or a grenade at a goat for stealing land that's belonged to Latino Texans for generations.
b) repeatedly invades and bombs civilians on said border forcing an armed response.
c) whines about the armed response being organized and allied with Canada and Brazil.
d) is funded by China to the point where it now faces the most well armed non state actors in the world, because Texas wouldn't survive otherwise.
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SP15702 days ago
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You would need to add a few ingredients in your example:
- the hostilities between Texas and Mexico started decades ago and nobody can actually pinpoint who fired the first shot
- Texans have the strong suspicion that Mexico wants to annex them and then kick the indigenous population out (as they have done it in other places already)
- the US government is totally absent from Texas
- the religious militia acts as de facto government providing basic services and some level of welfare
Lebanon is far from black and white...
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Due-Department-89062 days ago
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Nothing you listed convinced me that Mexico shouldn't deal with Texas until the USA does something. The way you said it made it sound like Mexico isn't invading the USA at all, but only a third government who is attacking Mexico.
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jscummy2 days ago
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If anything the last two are *more* of a reason to take matters into their own hands
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Song-Historical2 days ago
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Dude ignore the bots. Do you see you have just as many down votes as they have upvotes?
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Popular-Somewhere2342 days ago
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Always the bots /s
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No-Faithlessness28792 days ago
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What don't I understand? Its very simple, the actual Lebanese people are great, just like the Iranian people(non IRGC are great). There are great places within Lebanon and also Iran. But Lebanon is also dominated by Hezbollah, which is backed by the IRGC. The Lebanese Armed Forces are not stronger than Hezbollah so Hezbollah dominates the country and has committed multiple Terrorist attacks on record against the people of Lebanon.
TLDR: Lebanon People(non-Hezbollah)=Good and Hezbollah(IRGC backed terrorist group)=Bad
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jscummy2 days ago
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Care to add whatever context you think they are missing?
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Lethaldiran-NoggenEU2 days ago
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Many more funerals for Hezbollah operatives
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crash_bat2 days ago
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They're bombing residential areas, it's mostly funerals for civilians - ie old people, children, ordinary citizens just trying to get through the day. The way you dismiss their deaths is abhorrent.
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Lethaldiran-NoggenEU2 days ago
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Evacuation notices claim otherwise.
If Hezbollah's military arm wasn't entrenched in civilian population then there would be much less casualties.
If Lebanon would have disarmed Hezbollah as they said they would, there would literally be none.
So long as an organization that has vowed to destroy Israel is pulling the strings in Lebanon, Lebanon will be under attack.
Sadly innocent get hurt too, let us pray for the wounded.
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illiter-it2 days ago
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Your prayers make no difference, it's just covering your ass
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Lethaldiran-NoggenEU2 days ago
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No, I don't really care what you think.
Quite frankly, your lot will never be satisfied until my country is destroyed, my people are raped and murdered and my house is in ruins.
I say what I believe, unlike your performative comments.
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WellsFargone2 days ago
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This only makes sense if you’re Lebanese talking to an Israeli.
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Lethaldiran-NoggenEU2 days ago
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We have no quarrel with the Lebanese, we long for the day we can ski, navigate the desert and swim, all on the same day, but that day is far.
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jshysysgs2 days ago
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The last 100 bombing blitz didnt have he usual 30m warning and went beyond the southern border where most striked were concetrated before.
Qnd besides an ceasefire was in place israel broke it
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Lethaldiran-NoggenEU2 days ago
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Ceasefire never included Hezbollah
Hezbollah will not cease until Israel is destroyed. We must destroy it.
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jshysysgs2 days ago
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Pakistan the country thaf brokered literally said it djd
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Fantastic_Piece58692 days ago
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kinda surprised we haven't seen a movie about the beeper thing. Everything else aside, that was pretty epic
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catwwords2 days ago
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Everyone else attacks, Israel does "operation"
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Substantial_Milk81702 days ago
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One side pauses, the other continues. Realistically, it doesn't look like we’re anywhere near a ceasefire anytime soon.
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Teeklee13372 days ago
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There isn't any current ceasefire deal between Israel or Hezbollah (Lebanon) ...
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YogiBarelyThere2 days ago
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How often does Hizbollah not fire rockets into Israel? I believe they only take breaks after their weapons and stockpiles get depleted. Historically speaking.
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MiserableTennis65462 days ago
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They fire when Israel is at war with their allies, which in recent years amounts to the same thing. Before the wars they weren't firing.
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almog5462 days ago
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So they don’t decide when Israel stop if they fire at Israel when they want Israel will stop when they want
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ux3l2 days ago
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It depends. If Iran doesn't care about Hezbolla, the ceasefire affecting the strait of Hormuz might hold.
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Ultra_Metal2 days ago
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Israel cannot allow a terrorist group to fester so close to its borders. It will result in another attack like Oct. 7.
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ThrowRA_deviant3012 days ago
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It did let the terrorist group fester that led to Oct 7
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Simple_Map_18522 days ago
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Exactly. Lessons learned. Best not to make that mistake again.
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Ultra_Metal2 days ago
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Exactly my point. There should be no terrorist groups allowed on any of Israel's borders.
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ThrowRA_deviant3012 days ago
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Seems dumb when they could have stopped supporting hamas years ago.
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Ultra_Metal2 days ago
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Israel never supported Hamas.
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Imbsiouse2 days ago
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Israel always supported Hamas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas
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Ultra_Metal2 days ago
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Wikipedia is not a reliable source.
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GodOfBoy82 days ago
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Israel and america are being the terrorists right now
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Simple_Map_18522 days ago
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I guess you think whoever is winning is the terrorist, and whoever is losing is the victim.
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Ultra_Metal2 days ago
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False
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millelizards2 days ago
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Israel called it “Operation Eternal Darkness”. That’s an awesome name.
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oldschusteman2 days ago
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It is quite clear, israel does not want to stop the killing. Almost like how the russians drop a load of bombs after any kind of ceasefire talk is underway with the Ukrainians. They don't want to stop.
That is now 2 nuclear powers that want to kill and destroy others and cannot be told no. Sad times.
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BigChampionship87682 days ago
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Israel want hezbullah to disarm.
Why should it stop the war if hezbullah do not agree to disarm?
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IntelArtiGen2 days ago
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Even the lebanese government wants to disarm Hezbollah. https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/09/05/lebanon-says-army-will-begin-implementing-hezbollah-disarmament-plan_6745078_4.html
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BBorc2 days ago
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The whole UN Security council wants them to - see UN Resolution 1701. Twenty years of Hezbollah ignoring it.
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Teeklee13372 days ago
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They "want" it, but don't actually do it.
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CaptainBunderpants2 days ago
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Insane to rage at Israel for continuing a defensive war. Until there are guarantees for their security against further Hezbollah aggression they won’t and shouldn’t stop. Tactically though, they should try to displace and kill fewer civilians (as always with them) and action should be taken by outside parties to make that happen.
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filikesmash2 days ago
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This is a temporary 2 week ceasefire, the war is far from stopped until any agreement has been reached between both sides.
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Unhappy-Bullfrog55972 days ago
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Israël are terrorists, just like the other terrorists. And under protection for things that happened 75 years ago
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GodOfBoy82 days ago
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So they pause yet israel continues attacking? Not surprised. There will be no ceasefire. Israel wants to take over amd kill as many as it can in the middle east
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almog5462 days ago
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So they can fire rockets when they want and just stop when they get attacked and then expect Israel to stop you hearing yourself?
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