When u look at the model of Suno it quite blatantly agrees that it steals from millions of songs
now you guys might say even humans take inspiration
but first of all that's a machine
a human can't have the ability to take stuff from millions of songs and then make a song in just a few seconds
And music is natural we should not let artificial things take over it
using ai is a disrespectful for all artists
we collectively should boycott suno and the ppl who use suno
let the ppl who deserve earn the royalties and not some guy with no effort and talent
The people that need to be told that won't be reading this
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SCHR4DERBRAUMar 29, 2026
+50
This is like the coldest take I've ever seen.
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jngjng88Mar 29, 2026
+8
WTF is suno?!
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SerpentineDexMar 29, 2026
+8
How is this a hot take? This should be normal.
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EatsAlotOfBreadMar 29, 2026
+28
Even if this c*** wasn't all stolen. I am not interested in generated music or any content like that. The reason I consume art is because I want to see what the human mind is capable of and how someone's inner world is expressed through art, music, etc. Even if generated content sounds good (I don't know, don't care tbh), I don't want to support it.
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bitey87Mar 29, 2026
+10
It's armchair audio engineering. It gives people the false idea that they created content. Some believe they are exempt from scrutiny because they're "Just using samples like a 90's DJ."
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raiodocachopoMar 29, 2026
+8
They have no idea the creativity needed to pull off a Fatboy Slim track.
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faunalmimicryMar 29, 2026
+2
Yeah if I ever heard someone say this that would be annoying. DJing in the 90s was incredibly hard
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pblolMar 29, 2026
+2
I made a silly pop song about stuff my girlfriends dog does. We laughed at it and then never used it again. That was pretty much the value of it.
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Nice_Marionberry_102Mar 29, 2026
+1
Well said
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almightyshellfishMar 29, 2026
-1
Ok...
Devils advocate
I have a friend who's a guitar player. He's ok at it. Not a prodigy or anything, but fine. He loves playing the guitar, but he can't do anything else musically. He can't sing or play the drums or piano. But he has a thousand ideas for songs in his head. Always has.
Suno has given him an outlet for the music he's had in his head for decades. He uploads his guitar riffs to it and has spent many hours getting good at building pretty involved prompts to get the music his brain has in it, out of his computer speakers. It's given him incredible satisfaction.
Personally, I'm fine never using a service like this. I'm a bass player in a band and am thrilled to leave computers entirely out of that aspect of my life. And as much as I understand the arguments against these tools, and agree with many of them (and think most of what I've heard from them is shit), I can't help think of how happy my friend is, finally being able to turn his ideas into some kind of reality.
These tools, for all their wrongs and all their theft also take down barriers and offer the opportunity for creativity that would have otherwise been impossible.
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kyzfrintinMar 29, 2026
+6
If he can play guitar, WTF does he need AI for?
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almightyshellfishMar 29, 2026
+2
For the rest of all the things that make a song a song.
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Upstairs-Path5964Mar 29, 2026
+3
Do you think it's possible this may plateau his creative potential since the AI takes over after he comes up with the inital riffs? Instead of spending hours prompting an AI to spit out something he likes, he could have spent those hours:
Practicing his guitar
Reading up on music theory
Learning another instrument
To give an anology: Natural gem stones are more valuable than lab-grown gemstones. This price difference isn't because lab-grown are chemically different or have inferior structure, but because of the process by which they are created.
I believe the same holds true for music but to a greater extent. AI music contribute 0 value to the artform whereas music made by the trials and errors of a human's personal experiences presents a greater contribution.
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almightyshellfishMar 29, 2026
Could it plateau his creativity? I don't honestly know. People define creativity all kinds of ways.
I play in a cover band. One could argue that I live a zero-creativity musical life because I haven't written or recorded my own songs, I play other people's. Does that take skill? Sure, I guess. But does it take creativity? It doesnt really matter to me what the answer to that question is. I do what makes me happy with the skill and practice I've invested.
You're essentially saying my friend is creative-ing in a way you disagree with. That he should invest different time and different energies in creative-ing some other way. I'm just saying I'm not sure thats how creativity works.
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DeadriverproductionsMar 29, 2026
+5
Those things can be learned. I was just a guitarist 5 years ago, now I record songs with no AI required because I took the time to learn. The satisfaction of listening to something you worked hard for is fulfilling in a way a machine doing all the work could never even come close to
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kyzfrintinMar 29, 2026
+4
This is a part of learning music. I learned how to write a song within months of learning guitar. There is no excuse for such laziness. Tell your friend to stop chopping off what makes him human.
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almightyshellfishMar 29, 2026
+2
How do you think it's laziness? He wants his music ideas and some of his own guitar work to end up as fully fleshed out songs. He doesn't have access to recording equipment or a band full of musical professionals. He's got a guitar, and a USB interface and a laptop. There's a massive chasm between those things and a fully existing song. And plenty of people seem perfectly comfortable saying "well guess what? Your friend doesn't get to have songs because we don't approve of his methods. Instead, tell him he should become an entirely different human with an entirely different set of skills and access, and then we'll see if we approve"
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kyzfrintinMar 29, 2026
+1
>He's got a guitar, and a USB interface and a laptop.
I started out with less. No excuses. I recorded demos with my phone microphone in 2010.
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BigStoMar 29, 2026
+6
not really that hot of a take but the more people push for this the better.
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natguy2016Mar 29, 2026
+3
I grew up in the 80’s. I am stunned at all the studio technology now. But computers are programmed to the level of about two years old. They have no soul or life experience.
AI is great for simple tasks like indexing a huge database. I
see nothing that shows AI will do anything more. Music requires so many things that AI sucks at it
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DreadPirateLinkMar 29, 2026
+6
Done!
What's Suno?
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Nice_Marionberry_102Mar 29, 2026
-2
An Ai that creates music
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kangaroosterLPMar 29, 2026
+10
...how is it a hot take then?
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iwishihadnobonesMar 29, 2026
+7
The market is so saturated. It's a f****** cultural mess
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magsevenMar 29, 2026
+6
I don't know what Suno is, but if you type the word "people" out just one time, OP, you have my promise that I will never use or support it
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ManChildMusicianMar 29, 2026
+3
Suno can f*** off into the sun. The people who intellectualize it can smother on the moon.
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RedofPawMar 29, 2026
+3
I want Spotify and other platforms to require an AI tag.
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Stephan_ColemanMar 29, 2026
+9
Honestly the people using Suno aren't getting royalties from it anyway lol, it's mostly just people messing around. The real problem is when labels start using it to cut costs and replace actual artists
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Adorable_Basket8893Mar 29, 2026
+16
This is NOT true at all. I work for a music distributor and many AI songs are sent to YouTube Content ID fingerprinting tool which does generate revenue and pretty much all online stores allow AI music to generate revenue which is then paid to these 'artists'
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HighwayMean2853Mar 29, 2026
+8
the royalties thing is kinda beside the point though. even if people are just messing around, they're still normalizing ai music generation and flooding platforms with generated content. saw someone post an entire album they made in like 20 minutes on bandcamp the other day - that's wild when you think about musicians who spend months crafting their work.
i get that labels cutting costs is the bigger immediate threat, but all this casual use is basically training the market to accept ai music as legitimate. once that happens, it's way easier for the industry to justify replacing human creativity with algorithms. feels like we're sleepwalking into a future where actual musicianship becomes even more devalued than it already is.
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Missingno1990Mar 29, 2026
+8
They absolutely do get royalties.
They also take up space in the algorithm which potentially lessens streams of legitimate artists and hurts potential profits and exposure.
Thankfully, I'm able to tell a Suno track in a matter of seconds, block the artist and skip. Not everyone can tell off the bat, though, and it's still a massive pain in the arse to have to do.
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SimbakimMar 29, 2026
+6
Still, flooding markets with shit content is not good either
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veryverythrowawayMar 29, 2026
+3
The market is already flooded. 80 percent of streaming tracks have less than 1000 streams, and 25% are never played at all. 100k tracks uploaded daily. This is all before ai music has really made a significant impact.
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SimbakimMar 29, 2026
+1
Whats your argument here?
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theknyteMar 29, 2026
+1
Currently unknown artists only have a tiny chance to get heard on streaming. If AI floods the market even further, then their tiny chance becomes an almost impossibility.
New artists die on the vine, and the world accepts soulless slop from corporations as their soundtrack to life.
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SimbakimMar 29, 2026
+1
Yeah thats the point I was trying to make, its already hard enough for a small artist
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KeiSinCxMar 29, 2026
+1
yea, this is very wrong. I do get some money from the music I've made with suno.
not much but still something.
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Nice_Marionberry_102Mar 29, 2026
-3
Well there are some people who use suno and still get royalties but Well said I forgot to add the point of labels using ai
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MorkaiMar 29, 2026
+2
This take is cooler than the last ice age.
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contraband90Mar 29, 2026
+1
I was emailed by a recruiter for a staff engineering position for them. Told them to f*** off. Unbelievable that people aren't ashamed to admit they work there
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dr_strange-loveMar 29, 2026
+1
What's suno?
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BurningArkMar 29, 2026
+1
easy; nobody knows what that is
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WanderWutMar 29, 2026
+1
While I agree with you it’s kind of like yelling in the wind. AI in general is advancing and getting better rapidly, and the vast majority of the *general* population doesn’t really care even if online spaces would have you believing most people are super against AI.
And Suno isn’t the only one other models are adding the ability to make music as well. Gemini (Google) for example introduced music generation a little over a month ago and it would generate a 30 second song in around 30 seconds, and they’ve already updated it to generate a nearly 3 minute song in around 30 seconds just off a quick prompt you type that rivals Suno.
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ZultaranMar 29, 2026
I hate Suno and music AI generation, but i have a take about it :
\- As Suno is gonna produce mostly things that are in the current trend or past trends (Hyperpop, Drill, Pop, etc), i guess it's just gonna make the meta of producing trendy music kinda irrelevant, and will push artist to push their own sound and artistic direction, out of the meta.
Don't get me wrong, i am not saying it's a great thing, but i guess it will actually give a second life to a lot of small producers who have their very unique colours
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dylhenMar 29, 2026
+2
Optimistic.
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ZultaranMar 29, 2026
+1
Yeah for sure, but let's have one optimistic take in an ocean of pessimism
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dylhenMar 29, 2026
+2
Oh I'm not disparaging you in the slightest. It's nice to see.
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theknyteMar 29, 2026
+1
You'd be surprised. It's trained on everything. If you ask it to do a mashup of Tibetan Chanting and Speed Metal, it can, and it will. Techno Polka? No problem. 1950s Swooner Gangster Rap? How many tracks you want?
It's scary how fast and competent AI is getting at this.
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MaynardIsLord721Mar 29, 2026
+1
Da fuq is suno
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BOSSLongMar 29, 2026
+1
Absolutely, the demonetization of published synthetic audio created with the any AI should be the first thing that happens.
When you can use the tools correctly, it doesn’t take away from the human experience.
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dickleyjonesMar 29, 2026
+1
"a human can't have the ability to take stuff from millions of songs and then make a song in just a few seconds"
yes they can, that's how tonnes of music is made. that's how i make music, usually.
"And music is natural we should not let artificial things take over it"
music is natural? maybe it started that way, with birds and wolves and whales and bullrushes in the wind knocking on a hollow log. but now it is not natural, it is man made and guess what, so is ai. if you think we should not let artificial music take over, fine, remove 99% of music and enjoy what is left.
"using ai is a disrespectful for all artists"
i am an artist and i do not feel disrespected by ai at all. ai can't make me feel any way. it's just a computer doing math to make music, that's it.
"we collectively should boycott suno and the ppl who use suno"
go ahead. i will not.
"let the ppl who deserve earn the royalties and not some guy with no effort and talent"
hey, if listeners like what is produced by some guy with no talent and a computer, who am i to say they are wrong? i think there is a lot of c*** music out there, but i don't say people shouldn't listen to it if they like it.
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andrewmurray1Mar 29, 2026
-9
No shade. But ChatGPT already stole from all YouTubers and authors. The cat is out of the bag already
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marmaviscountMar 29, 2026
-3
Ha no, it's far too fun and enjoyable
My mental health and enjoyment of life is far too important to start boycotting things that help, and yes you've probably been trained by the modern media to only want to consume the mentally harmful stuff that big labels produce in their corporate music factories so you're going to tell me that doing else is immoral, I hope one day you learn to understand how ironic that is and recognize the music industry for what it is - a poison targeted at your soul by rich corporations.
And yes I know that they probably put a label on your favorite bands to say their totally Indy and not corporate but the whole industry is broken and corrupt and dangerous to your health.
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nntbMar 29, 2026
I replaced Suno with ace step 1.5
Runs local and isn't a paid service.
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nikimuxuMar 29, 2026
How else would you define Akai MPCs, drum machines, samplers, and DAWs if not machines? Do you naively believe that all "artists" put in the effort to create their songs when they have ten people from the label doing it for them? Are you aware that perhaps 70% of established artists also use AI?
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annie_leonharttMar 29, 2026
-18
honestly, it’s not that simple. new tech always feels weird at first, it just depends how people use it tbh
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BerlchickenMar 29, 2026
-14
Do not cling to a world that doesn't exist anymore.
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KeiSinCxMar 29, 2026
-7
U think using sunon takes no effort? sure it CAN be used that way, but it's not the only way people use it.
We've been using artificial sounds for decades already. so that argument is blown.
lyricists can have vocals and music to their words.
singers can have words to their voice.
and ultimately, people will jam to whatever sounds good. they really won't care how the music is produced.
as far as I can tell, the low effort lazy ones are obvious and eventually boring because they sound very similar since people use the same prompt over and over or sample their old tracks.
people like having custom music for their videos. especially meme videos.
no need to deal with copyright strikes because someone said copyright free but gets revenue taken eventually.
there are benefits of it. but my stand on it is that the artists should be paid a royalty. like, U want a xxxxx sounding track? okay, here is AI that can do it for U but any music generated from it has to be partially paid to said artist. I think that's fair. and any artist that ops out cannot be used to train AI.
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