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Imaginary-Ad-7919 Mar 28, 2026 +101

The real story isn’t who used ICE, it’s how easily it could be used.

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Legitimate-Wash-6336 Mar 28, 2026 +31

Creating a desperate economy will boost ice recruitment, it is intentional. Ice at airports means desensitization.

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CT_Phipps-Author Mar 29, 2026 +20

ICE at airports did the opposite. It caused Americans to be confronted with what they are.

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ineyeseekay Mar 29, 2026 +1

Right, but setting the bar of having not murdered anyone during their temping as TSA will help people think less unpleasant thoughts, like I guess they won't ALL murder people. That is until it's politically useful to kill some people again.

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shoobe01 Mar 29, 2026 +5

It, and DHS generally, was predicted to be a dangerous, unaccountable secret police even while the Homeland Security Act was proposed.

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returnofthecursed Mar 28, 2026 +50

They pumped a ton of money into ICE and hired a bunch of people using neo-Nazi slogans. ICE is full of neo-Nazi fascists.

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kevnmartin Mar 28, 2026 +17

"Turned into?" That's all they were ever meant to be.

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TheGOPisTheDeepState Mar 28, 2026 +30

ICE is Trump’s temu version of Hitler’s SS.

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TWVer Mar 28, 2026 +22

More like the SA. The brownshirts helped to enforce Nazi power, prior to consolidating political power into fully authoritarian rule.

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crazybones Mar 29, 2026 +1

It's also Trump's Salvation Army.

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aleph32 Mar 28, 2026 +9

Gosh, no one foresaw and warned that that's exactly what would happen.

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dogbite22 Mar 28, 2026 +8

He’s been arrested several times indicted arrested and ordered to prison by federal judges. Why is the man still walking around hurting everybody? ?

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AdCharacter7966 Mar 28, 2026 +22

ICE is training for the midterms. It is gonna be crazy, they will be in all blue cities

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dancingfordates Mar 28, 2026 +18

Hmm I think they will be overwhelmed. There are not enough Icec agents in the country to cover the polls... You vote... You hang around at the boundaries..

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GarageFridgeSoda Mar 28, 2026 +11

Lets say you plan to send 10 ice agents to every polling station you intend to disrupt and intimidate the public at. There are, based on best estimates cobbled from numbers that have been given over the last couple years, 10,000 minimum field agents and that number is growing constantly as more and more nazis join them. That's coverage for 1,000 polling locations. Easily enough to be a massive problem in as many cities as they want. LA, Minneapolis together seem to have less than 500 total voting places. Seattle and Portland have near universal mail-in or ballot dropoff voting which means it'd be harder to harass most people there since they fill out ballots at home and just drop them into a drop box but it also means they could have people at literally *every* voting center in those cities.

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Professional-Can1385 Mar 28, 2026 +7

During midterms they could send ICE to bluer polling stations in mixed districts to depress Dem votes while keeping Rep votes about the same. Now the Rep candidate becomes their Representative in the House, and the Rep candidate for Senator also gets a boost. I’m hoping they aren’t competent enough to do it successfully.

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dancingfordates Mar 28, 2026 +2

So you need to ask yourself, what can you do.???..

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Professional-Can1385 Mar 29, 2026

Vote like I usually do. No one is messing with our polls. My district is safely blue, and on the federal level all I have to vote for is a non-voting Delegate in the House. The Democrat will win.

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GarageFridgeSoda Mar 28, 2026 -6

It's pretty irrelevant to the direct election outcome regardless, the house is *very* unlikely to flip and the Senate flipping is a pipe dream. Christo-fascists, nazis, transphobes, and woman beaters are all going to keep voting republican even if it hurts them at the gas pump. But depressing overall voting numbers could absolutely make it look like the public mandate for the regime is bigger than it is.

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Johnsense Mar 29, 2026 +7

At present, Kalshi and Polymarket show 85% likelihood Democrats flip the House, 50% Senate.

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GarageFridgeSoda Mar 29, 2026 -1

Bookies set odds to cover all bets and make a profit, these are not direct predictions of situational outcomes and it's absolutely laughable that you think that's a reasonable source. In what world is a series of elections the dems have 50% or worse odds on individually 50% likely going to *all* come through lmfao

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dogbite22 Mar 29, 2026 +3

Sure voters won’t be allowed to yell at the ice agents so what are you talking about?

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bryan49 Mar 29, 2026 +5

Prediction market prices adjust dynamically based on supply and demand, not bookies. So I think the price they settle at does have some informational value

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GarageFridgeSoda Mar 29, 2026

Uhhhh, yeah. That's what a bookie does*.* Kalshi *are* bookies / is a bookie as an entity. And it does have some informational value - value couched within the reality that they are covering all bets by setting odds such to encourage more even betting.

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bryan49 Mar 29, 2026 +3

As I understand it they only facilitate the market but do not set the prices. The prices are set by bids submitted by gamblers. They get matched with someone on the opposite side of the bet who agrees to the same price. So the price should converge to some sort of equilibrium which is a crowd sourced probability. It's not the same as say betting on a football game where the house sets a line

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Impertinent Mar 28, 2026 +5

Dress up in MAGA gear and give them laxative brownies. Can’t prey on the polls if they’re stuck in the stalls.

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dancingfordates Mar 28, 2026 +3

Of course it is a problem . Of course of course...☺️ But 20-200 people filming, encouraging , supporting might make people feel a lot safer .. It comes down to this .... How much do you want to win.. Everyone with a vote is legal... The whole idea is to make you afraid...

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GarageFridgeSoda Mar 28, 2026 -9

There is like a 5% chance of flipping the house and 0% chance to flip the senate. Dems are not playing to win regardless. If you want to win, you need to radicalize and start reading leftist political theory. Start building resilient mutual aid networks and parallel power structures with your neighbors. Demand politicians to vote for who aren't simply 'less fascist than literal nazis' but are people who actually want to dismantle the oligarchy that led us here.

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dancingfordates Mar 28, 2026 +3

Please show me your source for those numbers. You are either massively out of touch, or intentionally misleading... 🙄

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GarageFridgeSoda Mar 28, 2026 -4

lmfao go look at the seats that would have be flipped. Just to get a senate majority on paper Dems would have to keep Georgia and Michigan as 50/50 states. Then go and win Maine, North Carolina, Alaska AND Ohio. All of those states must be won *on top of* not fumbling a single seat they are polling ahead in currently (New Hampshire being the most vulnerable).

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dancingfordates Mar 28, 2026 +3

As I thought, no source.... You claimed a 95% chance that send would fail to flip the house .. But you failed to find a source other than your fantasy world . You're in denial.. we are done here..

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GarageFridgeSoda Mar 28, 2026 -1

The only people in denial are the ones who think we can vote our way out of a fascist dictatorship lmfao

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dogbite22 Mar 28, 2026 +2

Not to mention, he hired a bunch of the January 6 criminals that were imprisoned. He released them and now he’s using them for ICE! That’s how bad it is out there. Well, they ought to be warned. We’re done with ICE! We’re ready for Trump to throw his thugs into Washington state and other Democratic states he cannot run the country like this much longer.

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mzieg Mar 28, 2026 +1

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dogbite22 Mar 29, 2026 +1

I’m in a blue state bring it on fat Donald Trump

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VanguardAvenger Mar 28, 2026 +5

Wait, ICE is supposed to be solving Trumps political problems? Near as I can tell, they're the cause of most of them.

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WhatEvenIsLifeThis Mar 28, 2026 +3

All the more reason to destroy them once a Dem is in office.

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literallytwisted Mar 28, 2026 +4

Yeah there's no way that agency can continue operating, I really hope the Democrats are listening because I don't think voters are willing to compromise on this one.

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Agnos Mar 28, 2026 +7

The Gestapo (short for Geheime Staatspolizei, "Secret State Police") was the brutal secret police of Nazi Germany, formed in 1933 by Hermann Göring and later managed by Heinrich Himmler. Operating outside judicial review, it hunted opponents, conducted surveillance, and played a key role in the Holocaust until 1945.

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Aware_Cheesecake_519 Mar 28, 2026 +3

ICE is covering up Trump's problems.

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Intro-Nimbus Mar 28, 2026 +3

It's almost like it's happened before...

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artguy55 Mar 28, 2026 +4

History tells us what happened to the Brownshirts [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung)

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Virtual-Squirrel-725 Mar 29, 2026 +3

The only surprising this about this is that people are "shocked". Literally half of 2024 was warning the country that Trump is a fascist wannabe and this is exactly what he intended to do. But voters thought "he'll make eggs cheaper" so they voted for him.

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curiousthoughts20 Mar 28, 2026 +5

The is a clear misuse of federal law enforcement and an abuse of Trump's office. The government has check and balances to prevent these sorts if abused from happening. It's embarrassing that Congress and the Supreme Court won't stand up him. They are clearly putting politics before country

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yock1 Mar 28, 2026 +6

Nothing but brown shirts thugs.

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Creative-Package6213 Mar 28, 2026 +2

Hitler had the SS, Fat Mango Hitler has ICE.

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Big-D-TX Mar 28, 2026 +2

That was always the intent… Gestapo USA

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Mikethebest78 Mar 28, 2026 +5

The bizarre thing is how quickly it happened. You read about the Weimar Republic and you think "How could it happen?" Well now we know don't we? Its very easy to trade principles for money or temporary safety.

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hmr0987 Mar 28, 2026 +3

It’s sad but the best thing for America right now is $4/gallon gas.

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Syzygy2323 Mar 28, 2026 +7

$4/gallon? I wish. It's over $6/gallon here in California.

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hmr0987 Mar 28, 2026 +2

I feel for you. Gas is still below $4/gallon in the southeast.

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Legitimate-Wash-6336 Mar 28, 2026 +1

Sometimes, I wonder if gas prices are higher in blue states vs red states, if that’s the case then perhaps it’s selective targeting?

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AcanthisittaNo6653 Mar 28, 2026 +1

ICE is not police. Police have professional standards for how they act and serve the public. ICE doesn't serve the public, they serve trump. Put them in an airport and take their masks, they can be useful and act human. That's what they need to do to become police.

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xlvi_et_ii Mar 28, 2026 +5

> Police have professional standards for how they act and serve the public In theory. But those standards are appallingly low in many places, blatantly fascist in others, and there are plenty of law enforcement agencies that don't "serve" the public. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangs_in_the_Los_Angeles_County_Sheriff%27s_Department for example....

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[deleted] Mar 29, 2026 +1

At least with cops, there’s a *sliiiight* chance that they’ll face legal consequences, and that’s only if they *get caught* doing some fuckshit. ICE and Border Patrol on the other hand have the most extreme case of IRL plot armor. They only get consequences for things they’ve done while not on the job.

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waitwhatreallycmon Mar 28, 2026 +1

They haven’t solved shit

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SNAFU1030 Mar 28, 2026 +1

What I find dubious, is that they have been to his benefit. Or anyone’s. But, while used, they sure aren’t doing any good for his image or approval. Decent distraction, amongst many active distractions.

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BK_Rich Mar 29, 2026 +1

Imagine if Biden sent ICE to do TSA, you know 100% they would all be striking right now.

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Illustrious-Site1101 Mar 29, 2026 +1

And what exact political problems has ICE solved for him?

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Chainmale001 Mar 29, 2026 +1

Oh We know Gustapo when we see it.

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Chainmale001 Mar 29, 2026 +1

Oh We know Gustapo when we see it.

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Zomunieo Mar 29, 2026 +1

Every authoritarian leader needs brown shirts. Do they all read the same script?

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free2bk8 Mar 29, 2026 +1

Exactly the intent of the Gestapo and SS.

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Ok-Annual50 Mar 29, 2026 +1

Ice=Domestic terrorists

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AliceTawhai Mar 29, 2026 +1

The coming unnecessary loss of life for American troops in Iran is going to turn the army against supporting him in a dictatorship so he’s fumbled that other card he needed

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WebbityWebbs Mar 28, 2026 +3

It wasn't funny when every other dictator said they would fix things, laws be damned.

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dancingfordates Mar 28, 2026 +2

I'm that's how we get we we are. When people start thinking " Congress be damned, we need ___________"....

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