Some good news were sorely needed this year. Way to go Hungary.
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xenoph5 hr ago
+76
As a Hungarian, I’m honestly proud. When the moment came, people didn’t hesitate. They acted while it still mattered, not after the fact when it’s easy.
This wasn’t just another local moment, it showed that even now, ordinary people can still influence the direction of the free world. And this time, we did.
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eatenbysquirrel4 hr ago
+18
I am happy and proud of the Hungarian people. Im glad you gave the EU another chance and read/saw trough all the misinformation.
I hope Russia and the US get the message and f*** off. Hungarian and Europeans will decide their own fate. And seemingly we want a strong and united Europe trough the EU and shared history.
Is it perfect? No. But youv(Hungary), has shown we choose cooperation instead of going at it alone.
Now go celebrate, you earned it.
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Hi-technik4 hr ago
+6
Finally some good news for the world, that is being kept hostage by the Orange Menace and his unnecessary reckless war.
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iwilltalkaboutguns3 hr ago
+1
I hope we can do the same here in the US in November. I think there are enough of us (and I'm a life long Republican) that want Trump neutered his remaining years in power...his remaining days as a lame duck if the Democrats can take the house and the Senate, is going to be the best punishment for someone like Trump.
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Under_the_Oak6 hr ago
+40
It’s finally Victover
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oneseason20005 hr ago
+10
Still probably works out great for him. It's no fun when your only excuse is to blame your buddy DJT.
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madmaxGMR5 hr ago
+5
Fideez nutz Orban.
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Far-Maintenance-19474 hr ago
The guy that will replace him is also another far right guy. But at least he's not as bad as Orban.
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helm4 hr ago
+1
I wouldn't describe the Tisza platform as far-right. It's definitely not going to make Hungary a better place for LGBT-people in the short run, but their priorities are not that of a far-right party. The reason he can appear far right is because he chose not to fight Orban on those grounds. So far he looks center-right to me. For example, he's with the traditional center-right parties in the EU parliament.
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imjustsurfin3 hr ago
+1
I agree that "far right" is a bit of a stretch, but make no mistake, he's "Right" enough so that immigrants, LGBTQ, and all people of colour, are not going to be popping champagne corks.
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wrobbii6 hr ago
+152
He actually conceded. F****** hell, no "it's rigged and fixed" bs leading to insurrection. See America, even fascist old pricks can see the f****** writing on the wall. The disinformation network has failed and it will fail in the long run.
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wofo6 hr ago
+66
I don't think it works as well in the face of overwhelming defeat
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krauQ_egnartS5 hr ago
+23
which is the only way an election in November could possibly help the USA
it'd have to be so overwhelmingly undeniable that not even FOX lies, ICE intimidation at polling places, and rampant fraud from compromised voting machines can convince people the Republicans retained the House
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SolidusDave5 hr ago
+21
High voter turnout is important to keep the craziest in our society at bay. The majority of us are just normal people, that's why it's important to vote every time you can, even if you think it's just one vote (assuming you don't vote for lying extremist dipshits)
"The National Election Office said the turnout by 6:30pm was more than 77 percent, a record number in any election in Hungary"
US 2024’s rate was 64% (relatively high for the US, but a slight drop from 2020).
70s range is the normal for western Europe, but can go as high as 85+%.
Of course, with multiple-party systems you still get some crazies in, but not at a ruling majority.
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Brapfamalam5 hr ago
+9
This is why the Cambridge Analytica model was ingenious. They weren't recruited to instigate campaigns to convince people to vote for their clients. Their model was to convince people it wasn't worth voting, or to vote for the fringe candidate to split the vote. Specifically their first iteration of this was in the Carribbean by creating a fake grassroots viral online campaign called "do-so" convincing the youth to not vote and boycott the election for their client. The hypothesis was that young black left leaning youth could be conned into thinking the election was pointless and both sides as bad as each other - it worked
Their template was used in 2024 for the online youth Gaza content and campus protests height on tiktok...which disappeared almost overnight after Trump won
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helm4 hr ago
+1
100% this. Elections aren't won by the fanatical base alone - there are many groups, and most *cannot* easily be convinced that the sky is green or that fire is wet. What you do instead is to discourage certain groups from voting at all, if you cannot find a key issue to hook that group in [gas prices at the pump, immigration, inflation, subsidies are typical key issues].
What we already can see is that the new angle will be "you voted for Tisza, but it made no difference".
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DogtasticLife4 hr ago
+1
High turnout won’t matter if they close down all the polling stations in blue counties, are the dems preparing for this?
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jjpamsterdam5 hr ago
+5
I honestly didn't believe he'd just fold like that, without at least trying to claim foul play or invoke some type of incident to suspend some part of the electoral process. This is quite astonishing and really shows that Hungary probably has a better chance of becoming a country with a free and fair democracy than the United States.
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frddtwabrm046 hr ago
+2
An f u to you know who... You didn't do enough!
Now you know who, gets to hear he didn't concede and j6 all over again + he lost the election
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MissionTank32724 hr ago
+1
Well, he lost by ALOT, unfortunately that will not happen in the US
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MilkFew22734 hr ago
+1
Or Magyar is basically Medvedev and Hungary just swapped a mask
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dead975316 hr ago
+47
Not just ousts but completely destroyed them.
Tisza has more mandates than fidesz ever had, a lot more.
Rock solid 2/3 supermajority.
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Interesting_Prune5134 hr ago
+1
no excuses from here on out, they can do what they want for 4 years, they better not betray the hope and faith we put in them!!
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seKer826 hr ago
+139
As soon as he got the Trump approval it was the end of their chances.
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Sunnysidhe3 hr ago
+1
It was Meeting JD Vance, usually they die after, Orban was lucky in that it was just his job that died!
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OneNormalBloke6 hr ago
+112
Tramp and poo-tin are in mourning. Their 'flags' are at half-mast.
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FlowAffect6 hr ago
+41
I don't think Trump can achieve more than half-mast either way. Nearly 80 years old and in pretty bad shape.
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RadicalOrganizer6 hr ago
+23
Unless it's a small child
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PlanktonInitial79456 hr ago
+2
You don't need a flag for that, sadly.
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Desperate-Hearing-556 hr ago
+25
Thank you JD Vance and Trump. Every time they endorse someone LOSE!
They are SUCKERS and LOSERS!
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Born2Rune4 hr ago
+5
I hope this is the case. Here in UK, Farage and his goon squad have been slobbering all over that orange mushroom.
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meisobear3 hr ago
+1
My eyes! My eyes!
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Born2Rune3 hr ago
+1
Sorry, that was a bit much for this time in the morning.
Maybe bleached ring would have been more appropriate?
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meisobear3 hr ago
+1
My smouldering sockets! My smoulderng sockets!
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xBabepentel6 hr ago
+16
The headline feels like something straight out of bizarre alternate history novel,Hard to believe this is real
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Agreeable_Crow7896 hr ago
+14
He is not going to have a nice future in Hungary
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AtheIstan6 hr ago
+19
Probably retire in Russia like most fallen dictators
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Agreeable_Crow7896 hr ago
+3
I’d say the orange cow will join him, but he likely won’t make it
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cardew-vascular6 hr ago
+2
He's going to pull a Yanukovych and hop on the next plane to Russia I'm sure.
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xDizzyPeach6 hr ago
+36
Does anyone know if this results in an immediate policy shift or will it take months to see changes?
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dead975316 hr ago
+24
There is a 1 month handover period, fidesz is a caretaker government until then.
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Flash_ina_pan6 hr ago
+38
It will depend on if they get a super majority. The degree and speed of changes hinge on that
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BabyComingDec20246 hr ago
+68
They did get a super majority!
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Flash_ina_pan6 hr ago
+42
Best news I've heard all day, that should give them the ability to unfuck their constitution quite rapidly
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20past4am4 hr ago
+5
Also be cautious though. He might get tempted to also be corrupted by this incredible mandate. Don't forget Peter Magyar was in Orbán's Fidesz for years before Tisza. And Tisza itself is conservative right-wing, but just pro-EU.
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WillMcNoob4 hr ago
+3
Conservative in EU means centrist with some spice, you either get nothingburger ideology or complete whacks like AFD
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blankarage6 hr ago
+7
Hungary ya all giving the world HOPE!
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Wonderful-Pause10486 hr ago
+6
A two-thirds majority was achieved after the election—that’s pretty clear, isn’t it?
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Far-Maintenance-19474 hr ago
+2
The new leader has basically the same right wing beliefs as Orban except he's pro-EU and pro-Ukraine.
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Crypt33x3 hr ago
+1
For the vetoed money supposed to go to Ukraine, it could go really fast now, if we are lucky.
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ranbling0113 hr ago
+1
I think the earliest we see any real shifts in policy will in the fall. There's a month long handoved period and the Parliament does not hold session in July and August. The new legalisations will have to be drafted, introduced and everything, every Department will get new leaderships and probably many changes in the higher levels regarding beaurocrats
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Difficult_Camel_11196 hr ago
+4
Handover is usually not directly after elections
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Prestigious-Fig-71436 hr ago
+13
Depends. In australia, it is pretty immediate.
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philman1326 hr ago
+7
same in UK, the PM is usually sworn in the next day
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PlanktonInitial79456 hr ago
Like the article says, even if they got a super-majority, many areas of the state, media, public administration and legal system were intentionally filled with Orbán loyalists during his mandate, so there could be some resistance to change.
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dead975316 hr ago
+6
Tisza has 2/3 supermajority which means they can replace anybody anywhere on a whim.
Basically unlimited power.
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PlanktonInitial79455 hr ago
-4
The executive branch of government having the power to easily replace anybody in the media, public administration and legal branch "on a whim" would be a clear violation of the separation of powers and a very strong sign that Hungary isn't a democratic country - in fact, it's characteristic of totalitarian states. Do you have any proof to back up your claim?
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reethok4 hr ago
+1
They have a two third majority of parliament. They could rewrite the constitution to say anything. Then trying to go fidesz 2.0 would go badly for them because not even fidesz could do that and they already have a built in "deep state", which acts as a balance of powet against tisza.
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Interesting_Prune5134 hr ago
+1
it will probably still take months
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PeteBuford6 hr ago
+8
A harbinger of bad news for MAGA. They're next.
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GreyTigerFox6 hr ago
+11
Good job for a change Hungary. Now don’t waste it.
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VersusYYC6 hr ago
+6
It’s good to see them retake their country from Russian agents. Now they‘ll need to secure the country by disbanding the Russian networks, agents, and financing because Russia will always seek another Orbon figure to use as a puppet.
When Putin dies, I hope it’s with the knowledge that his fascist empire is a failure.
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DrBorisGobshite4 hr ago
+1
So Trump support for Polievre in Canada, Dutton in Australia and now Orban in Hungary have all ended in the same result, a resounding victory for the anti-Trump opposition. I can only hope this effect extends to Farage as well in a few years.
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New-Energy14133 hr ago
+1
When did trump support Polievre?
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MrBathroom6 hr ago
+13
I hope in Croatia we do the same against Plenković and HDZ, but considering the amount of ignorant people it ain't happening any time soon
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Cold-Establishment-76 hr ago
+1
Ye but what's the alternative? They all seem utter garbage
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Sorqu4 hr ago
+1
A little recap of the election:
There are 106 voting districts in Hungary. Each district can vote on the local candidates wether independent or member of a party. The w***** gets a seat in the parlament. Tisza won 93 of these districts, the remaining 13 went to fidesz.
The rest of the 93 seats are distributed based on the total votes each party gets. Thanks to gerrymandering fidesz almost got as many seats as Tisza, despite behind 15% (42 vs 45). The rest of the 6 seats went to Mi Hazánk, a far right party.
133 seats are needed for 2/3 supermajority, Tisza got 138, despite the blatant cheating attempts fidesz tried to do (threatening and buying votes, transfering voters to districts where they are needed more)
The other two parties in this election (DK a left aligned party and MKKP a "joke" party) didn't even get into parliment, which is totally fine, they were only leeches.
Each party eligible for election gets funds for their campaign. MKKP has to pay this money back, because they did not even reach 1%. This is in the ballpark of 2 million euros.
The current election system favors big parties, small ones just drown in the sea of candidates. For this reason it was extremely important for smaller parties to not register or withdraw from election despite having chance to get into parliment. We had several parties and independent candidates do this in favor of Tisza. DK and MKKP was ridiculed and mocked to no end because they decided to still run despite this.
While Tisza worked hard and did an amazing job to win this election, this victory would not have been possible without the countless individuals, investigative journalists, police officiers, soldiers, government employees, victims who came forward and shed light on fidesz' corrupt and criminal ways, turning away their voters from them.
PS. Our minister of foreign affairs (who was sharing EU council meeting information with russia) is nowhere to be found, he might be on the run, lol.
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LegitimateClaim96605 hr ago
+3
Next up American midterms
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thesubneo4 hr ago
+1
Polak, Węgier, dwa bratanki, i do szabli, i do szklanki
Lengyel, magyar – két jó barát, együtt harcol, s issza borát
works again!
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J4jem6 hr ago
+4
What do you call the Midas touch, but instead of transmuting into gold everything turns into shit? It’s gotta be the Trump touch, right?
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Front-Anteater37765 hr ago
+10
Mierdas touch
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carilessy6 hr ago
+3
Kotmidas? Okay, it's the german term \~ Ah, doesn't work for english, I mean Shitmidas or Scatmidas doesn't really work.
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Ok_Poetry_26966 hr ago
+8
Orban:
Father! I see only darkness before me!
Putin:
No king rules forever my chubby old son
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shadeygrimm6 hr ago
I understood that reference
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Lazyboi6866 hr ago
+3
We did it!
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Annual-Growth-43726 hr ago
+2
🙌🏼🙏🏼
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Hroosky26 hr ago
+2
Prison
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doomeddeath6 hr ago
+2
I'm actually surprised they got fair elections
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Inevitable_Butthole6 hr ago
+2
The world is healing!
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Cynical_Classicist6 hr ago
+2
Some good news at last!
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WillemDaFo6 hr ago
+2
Probable “super-majority” too, thanks to Orban’s efforts at gerrymandering.
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Bleakwind5 hr ago
+2
I have a big smile on my face.
Let’s hope Peter curtail the damage already done
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IIllIllIlllIIIl5 hr ago
+2
The Vance-effect
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p0p0c4t3p3tl4 hr ago
+2
Everything Trump touches, turns to shit
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imabotdontworry4 hr ago
+1
ohh man, the whole country was a festival last night, 2/3 majority for Tisza, Orban is gone for good, private jets started to fly out of the country, soon a lot of them will be in jail
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FreelyFound4 hr ago
+1
Great! How did Hungarians overcome the disinformation campaigns of Orban? What changed people’s minds?
Other countries want to know …
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TheLaughingBread4 hr ago
+1
Because the voters are smart and learn. Simple as that 😅
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TheoTheodor3 hr ago
+1
I mean he was in power for 16 years, things have to change. But probably the ties to Russia, anti-Ukraine and constant EU vetoes became too much and got too real in the past few years.
Then being so close to Trump and having JD Vance literally campaign for you must have sealed the deal (I can't even imagine having a US politician try to sway the elections in a European country being good, let alone a MAGA one).
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OurSponsor6 hr ago
+3
I love that for him!
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kadylady146 hr ago
+3
Anything the Trump Admin touches turns to shit.
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ExcellentHunter6 hr ago
+2
Good, hopefully they can get a criminal case going.
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EconomyDoctor32875 hr ago
+1
At what point will people deny meeting with JD Vance, the bringer of death?
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db29995 hr ago
+1
What was the point of Vance visiting? Wouldn't that make things worse for Orban?
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Karpattata5 hr ago
+1
Gives me hope that maybe we can do the same with Bibi in Israel. Good on Hungary.
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Tigereyesxx4 hr ago
+1
God riddance Putins puppet..Lard arse..
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Consistent-Leek49863 hr ago
+1
paying attention donnie? no, put the mirror down, stupid!
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Intaru3 hr ago
+1
Farewell you odious toad.
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Blind_Warthog3 hr ago
+1
Big if true
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Ok-Tennis-4346 hr ago
Modi when?
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vivekadithya124 hr ago
+2
What's the issue with him tho? Y'all be saying bullshit. Modi is nowhere near Putin, Trump, Xi, Orban or Munir on the authoritarian scale because we're an actual democracy.
2024 election results was the best mandate we could've gotten - his party is not in the majority and he needs a coalition to run his government rn. In this term, they're considerably refrained compared to last.
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Gullible_Gur70646 hr ago
+1
Who's the alternative ? Rahul ?
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Ok-Tennis-4346 hr ago
-2
Rahul, Stalin, Revanth, Pinarai and many others.
-2
Gullible_Gur70646 hr ago
+2
Good luck getting that 200% reservation
Not happening in this life though
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starvingbanker6 hr ago
+1
Today is a good day. Ruszkik haza!
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solblurgh6 hr ago
+1
16 years? That's rookie numbers /s
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jjpamsterdam5 hr ago
+3
What's funny is that both Helmut Kohl and Angela Merkel managed to rule for 16 years without ever needing to underme democratic institutions. Think of these two eras of standstill what you will, but both of these leaders and their party were committed to the democratic process.
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According_Spot_43405 hr ago
My question is how long before their is an assassination attempt or some sort of meddling.
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