So what Hungarians are supposed to believe is that Ukraine sabotaged these pipelines just before the elections, risking Hungarians voting for mr Pupin Puppet again?
I’m sorry but if you believe any of that you’re basically a vegetable:
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haulric5 days ago
+234
Also in Serbia a country that has massive Russian support.
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RomaHappens5 days ago
+113
hi Serb here, not true
a tiny minority is actually pro-Russia, the rest are anti-everyone since EU refuses to acknowledge Vucic is a dictator and feeds him billions of EU tax money
big difference between being pro-Russia and just trolling all sides
that said I wish our pro-Russia guys went to war for Russia, a lot of them did and thank god never returned but it's never enough
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LSF6045 days ago
+113
Can't speak about Serbia specifically, but generally speaking the 'everyone sucks ' cynicism is something Russia promotes. It demotivates their opposition while their supporters stay motivated
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RomaHappens5 days ago
+44
We're fighting against Vucic and the EU keep taking smiling pictures with him, shaking his hand, and sending him money. Which he then uses to pay paramilitary to kill protesters.
That's what an average Serbian person sees and those who understand diplomacy better like me are very scarce.
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LSF6045 days ago
+11
That's the whole thing about propaganda right? It reduces a complex situation to a simple situation and then manipulates people's emotions.
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RomaHappens4 days ago
+1
Propaganda has a unique source and a purpose, this is people's opinion. Nobody is saying this, definitely not the opposition since they're pro-EU.
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LSF6044 days ago
+1
In the age of social media 'unique sources' are undetectable. Making people's opinions seem organic is completely possible.
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RomaHappens4 days ago
+1
What are you arguing here dude?
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LSF6044 days ago
+1
The things I just said? Are you asking me to write them again?
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DoomguyFemboi5 days ago
+3
Everyone does suck though. Some just suck more than others.
I find it helps by telling people not to vote FOR someone, but to vote AGAINST someone. For instance I'm a brit, and it'd be a cold day in hell before I vote for Labour, those feckless bastards who basically made it illegal to be against a genocide. But voting AGAINST the tories or reform ? Yeah I can do that.
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LSF6044 days ago
+2
The propagandised message says that both sides or the same precisely to discourage voting against the worst option.
In the usa a whole bunch of people refused to vote against trump because biden kept backing Israel. This was despite trump being even worse on that front, and far worse on many others.
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haulric5 days ago
+14
Yep Serbia is in a wild spot afaik I got as much report like it is a full pro Russia country as I got that people want to get away from ruzzia.
If most people are in the second category that's.good and I hope to be wrong but I still remember the pro-russian manifestation in Serbia from not that long ago :(.
Edit: Russia/serbia
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RomaHappens5 days ago
+13
We've never been pro-Russia, even as a communist country we were proud to tell Stalin to f*** off and kept it that way after his death. Up until 2015ish you'd be seen as a moron if you mentioned Russia as something great. Loss of freedom of speech and Vucic letting his extreme right wing hordes loose made people shut up, so now there's a lot of show that we support Russia but it's really only Red Star football ultras, and only those who work directly for him.
There's still a lot of people who fall for the anti-West propaganda but still a small minority.
The problem is that you can't do anything against these "pro Russia" people because you get attacked by literal criminals and most likely killed, and since they literally work for Vucic nothing can happen to them.
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Medallicat5 days ago
+2
I think it is fair to be “anti-west” in some respect, but it is the lesser evil when compared with alternatives.
I prefer to be an anti-authoritarian/anti-fascist/anti-nazi, pro-liberty and pro-freedom.
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Far-Cover-2005 days ago
+3
It definietly IS true. Majority of the media are pro-Russian. Very interesting that you got so many upvotes, saying something completely false.
[https://www.dw.com/en/russias-influence-overshadows-serbias-election/a-67744235](https://www.dw.com/en/russias-influence-overshadows-serbias-election/a-67744235)
[https://www.dw.com/en/western-balkans-russias-sputnik-skews-public-opinion/a-59357427](https://www.dw.com/en/western-balkans-russias-sputnik-skews-public-opinion/a-59357427)
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RomaHappens4 days ago
+2
Majority of media? All but two TVs are controlled by the dictator. All but one newspapers are owned by him. What are you talking about? Serbia has no freedoms, no democracy, no elections, and you people talk about freedoms, democracy, or elections
Even media's regulatory bodies which decide who will get the national frequency are his servants who place propaganda TV only on the nation-wide frequencies. Seriously, it's sad how little you guys know about Serbia. EU brought in a guy from the 90s who participated in genocides and anti-west propaganda as recent as 2010 celebrating deaths of politicians and mafia, and then you're telling me what my country is?
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Far-Cover-2004 days ago
+1
Maybe you misunderstood. I wasnt talking about "freedoms, democracy, or elections". I am saying that those media that are under the control of the regime are pro-Russian. The linked articles explain this.
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5hadow4 days ago
+3
No. They have their own Trump in power there.
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Destroyer1405 days ago
+5
Hungarian here. We are ~1week off of elections, and Putin puppet starts to realize that things are looking grim for his sorry ass despite how propaganda supposed to work usually to free win elections, but not this time.
This is a great translated summary of the shit that has been pouring in Fidesz's neck just over the last week: https://youtu.be/XTp45qKCYRw
What you see right now is the last ditch effort of them going "Ukraine bad & EU bad, Fidesz & Russia good".
I can't imagine them winning the vote. If anything Tisza is set to win it by mearly 2/3 majority, so they can't get away with "slightly tilting the results to win" as meddling would be blatantly obvious.
I'd say they'll try to last moment delay/cancel elections, but that's not going to go well for them either...
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NeverEndingCoralMaze5 days ago
+1
A deadbeet
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Ok-Cartoonist-44583 days ago
+1
Agree
Tell that million pensioner :D
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InterestingJeweler745 days ago
-32
Worked before, false flag operation is a go-to for desperate presidents, look to George W. Bush and september 11 or Russians claiming that Ukrainians were attacking Russia.
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Jealous-Chemical-3495 days ago
+312
Lmao, the Hungarian opposition was informed weeks prior and by multiple sources that Russia and orban were planning a false flag operation against the pipeline, and it literally happened exactly as they were told !
I can’t believe with this guy anymore, i can’t believe even 1 person is supporting this russian tool called orban.
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MilkNaive82745 days ago
+61
>Lmao, the Hungarian opposition was informed weeks prior
It was already addressed last September.
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pitshands5 days ago
+16
And again about 6 weeks ago Putin and Slick Vicky are shitting their pants.....so bad they even have Vance showing up
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SirKillsalot5 days ago
+14
*i can’t believe even 1 person is supporting this russian tool called orban*
Many people have no access to an unbiased source or differing viewpoints. All of their media is government propaganda.
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KittySwarm4 days ago
+1
because propaganda works and they control the information space. imagine if it was all Fox News all the time everywhere and opposing sources were actively suppressed. Also, the level of corruption and patronage that still goes on is wild. People are underestimating the ability of this regime to suppress votes and buy votes.
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Present-Bunch68332 days ago
+1
Can you bring me up a source that they were informed?
I've heard about it, but i'm trying to find out some claims that the operation will happen before it did.
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RisingRusherff5 days ago
+90
Serbia has said it found “explosives of devastating power” near a pipeline that carries Russian natural gas to Hungary and beyond, sparking claims by Hungary’s leading opposition candidate of a possible “false flag” operation aimed at influencing the country’s elections.
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Starbits215 days ago
+50
Will they blow up an apartment building and put the blame on...?
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NorthofForty5 days ago
+18
Nah, Vald put a patent on that.
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Samaritan_9785 days ago
+3
Pretty sure they already did that in the late 80s. Got to diversify your false flags.
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Ijnefvijefnvifdjvkm5 days ago
+37
Fake as can be. How gullible are Hungarians?
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octarine-noise5 days ago
+52
The ones who are conditioned to believe the whole world is out to get them, and Orbán is the only one who can protect them? Very.
The rest of us? We *are* technically laughing at this, but trust me, there's no mirth behind it.
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Agreeable_Falcon10445 days ago
+15
They are largely ignorant to the wider world and their media is insanely biased. I knew a Hungarian lady and she didn’t believe the Ukrainian war was real as it wasn’t reported back there.
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pitshands5 days ago
+9
Look into th background of Hungary media consolidation by Orban aligned players....calling Hungarian Media anything even free adjacent is a lie. So many people in Orbans circle got RICH. The guy built massive soccer stadium and his small home town......
There are some parallels here. Hungary was the test drive
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bem135 days ago
+5
I was about to correct you on that "largely", but considering the 2022 results, where out of about 8.2 million voters 2.8 million voted for Orbán, and 2.5 million thought everything was fine and didn't even bother to vote... yeah. I just hope we can finally prove the world we're not actually all idiots in about a week.
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OnlyZac5 days ago
+5
We’re rooting for you guys
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livefromnewyorkcity5 days ago
+14
Vucic and Orban, two of the most honest and credible leaders in Europe.
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cstmoore5 days ago
+7
I'm just wondering when the current US regime will do this in the United States.
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PlaneswalkerHuxley5 days ago
+14
Did you miss the "assassination attempt" on Trump before the election that conveniently skimmed him but didn't leave a scar, and let him literally pose in front of a flag?
False flag attacks are literally Russian politics 101.
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Powerful_Set_23505 days ago
+2
Could we see Viktor Orbán cancelling the election?
How would that play out? Would Trump support him?
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prazulsaltaret5 days ago
+5
Ah yes Serbia the most honest and reliable country in Europe
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F0_17_205 days ago
+6
I generally laugh at false flag accusations since most of them are hilariously bogus or unrealistic.
But this looks completely plausible and reasonable.
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Longjumping_Whole2405 days ago
+7
Orban: "The Serbian president told me they found explosives few hundred meters from the pipeline"
"Is there any evidence for this?"
"He only said it so it must be true"
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dzemperzapedra5 days ago
+16
Serbian dude in charge literally came out and said "I'll let you in on some details from the investigation - the explosive has MADE IN USA on it"
Lol
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wowlock_taylan5 days ago
+3
Of course it is Serbia, Balkan Russia, that is involved with it.
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Awkward_Squad5 days ago
+1
Okay that’s #1
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TheSholvaJaffa5 days ago
+1
Tisza is rising!
Go Tisza!
Hajra Tisza!
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vanhunt15 days ago
+1
Vucic is a criminal. Don’t trust anything he says. This is coming from a Serb who’s been protesting throughout the 2025
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rugby_hurries5 days ago
+1
Honestly, this fits a familiar pattern, Russia has every incentive to create chaos and prop up friendly governments in Europe, so it’s hard not to see their fingerprints on something like this
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fraggordonn5 days ago
+1
How is this country still part of the EU!? As it seems that no one is following rules based world order anymore, why should EU? Majority vote and f*** off
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fraggordonn5 days ago
+2
Same with slovakia
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fraggordonn5 days ago
+1
…and also, this would be the cheapest yet one of the most effective ways to increase EU security. In fact it would save billions per year in subsidies that would be otherwise paid to these oblasts
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fraggordonn5 days ago
+1
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Unlikely-Complex37375 days ago
+1
Of course it was Serbia lol
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AccomplishedSoft13505 days ago
+1
Orban gets along with Putin because he is as corrupt as Putin.
EU should boot Hungary from the union. The EU does not need its own 2nd rate Trump
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Strict_Strategy5 days ago
-14
False flag as in the same way it was claimed Russia blew up the Nord pipeline only for it to turk out Ukraine did it.
Lol, don't trust any side. Both sides are duking it out and and are getting funds from respective backing groups.
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