I frickin love Prometheus (2012)

Fr, him and McAvoy were perfect choices

Streets ahead

"'And like the snows of yesteryear, gone from this earth.' ....Jolly good, sir."

All three were actually epic. They absolutely are his 3 best performances.

Try living through it

He should probably still be working on it now, amazing how someone so unbelievably impressive as Stringer Bell could ever be so bad at being a yank in anything after.

The whole "Xavier is MLK and Magneto is Malcolm X" thing is a popular interpretation, but it wasn't what Chris Claremont had in mind when he started writing for Marvel in the 1970s. >Actually, Claremont says he always saw Professor X and Magneto as echoes of David Ben-Gurion and Menachem Begin. “My view of Magneto” – originally created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby as a magnetic-powered supervillain who wanted to take over the world – “is that he’s the terrorist who might someday evolve into a statesman.” Source: [The X-Men Files - Nymag](https://nymag.com/nymetro/arts/features/3522/) >"It was too close. It had only been a few years since the assassinations. In a way, it seemed like that would be too raw. My resonance to Magneto and Xavier was borne more out of the Holocaust. It was coming face to face with evil, and how do you respond to it? In Magneto's case it was violence begets violence. In Xavier's it was the constant attempt to find a better way." >"As we got distance from the '60s, the Malcolm X-Martin Luther King-Mandela resonance came into things. It just fit." Source: [The secret to 'X-Men's' success - CNN.com](https://web.archive.org/web/20200804122552/https://edition.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/03/xmen.legacy.go/) >There’s a lot of talk online now that Magneto stands in for Malcolm X and Xavier stands in for Martin Luther King, which is totally valid but for me, being an immigrant white (*Claremont was born in England*), to make that analogy felt incredibly presumptuous. An equivalent analogy could be made to \[Israeli prime minister\] Menachem Begin as Magneto, evolving through his life from a terrorist in 1947 to a w***** of the Nobel Peace Prize 30 years later. That evolution was something I wanted to apply to the relationship between Xavier and Magneto. Source: [Exclusive: X-Men’s Chris Claremont talks through five key storylines | Movies | Empire](https://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/x-men-wolverine-jean-grey-chris-claremont-five-key-storylines/)

I got that reference!

From that I've read, stuff like that exists. There's a whole bunch of bio-warfare stuff that we don't know about that absolutely can destroy a major chunk of the human race, but we go about our days in naive bliss.. The reality is, we are an accident away from living like we are in the Fallout universe.

Kinda neat, never knew that. At the same time I agree, good cut. All I’m thinking about is, did this alien have to wear a wig and fake facial hair? Like they’re all bald right? He’d stick out like one of those early model rubber skinned Terminators.

This was not “cut from the release” … it’s the fan fic that wouldn’t die. There was a screenplay with that Jesus stuff in it, but it was written by a fan. Presumably written after watching the movie extras, which included extensive interviews with screenwriter Spaihts. In one of the interviews, or maybe in his commentary, don’t remember which, he mentions that early in preproduction they had considered the Jesus thing. Right away both he and Scott agreed it was too on the nose.

I love the original Jesus plot premise but it seemed like they backed out from using that. It suits the religious undertone of most of Ridley Scott's scifi. It would probably offend people.

Unfortunately that's from a fake script. See [https://www.listnook.com/r/LV426/comments/108ddn8/prometheus\_the\_fake\_script\_kroft\_talks\_about/](https://www.listnook.com/r/LV426/comments/108ddn8/prometheus_the_fake_script_kroft_talks_about/)

The reason the original Alien works so well is that the characters are so believable and relatable. They're literally a space tugboat crew. They talk to each other like real people. They have real life concerns. "But what about the shares?" They're just like us. But also, they're thrown into a mission they're completely and wholly unprepared for...first contact. They're not qualified for this. Not even the science robot (that we only find out is a science robot placed there by the corporation later in the movie) is qualified for this, none of them are. They have to use whatever tools they have on the ship and pray that's enough. There's a hierachy, a command structure that comes into play regarding quaranting a potentially infected individual as opposed to Charlize Theron just being angy and mad and in charge because she said so!!! We would actually expect a crewmember of the Nostromo to f*** up and do something wrong because they're not biologists, botanists, archaeologists, philosophers...and this is why the horror aspect of Alien works so well. Everyone pushes the theory that the crew of the Prometheus is a bunch of idiots on purpose, but nothing in the script insinuates or suggests this and it's total headcanon (like the aliens in Signs being demons).

Keep in mind, the crew in prometheus signed up for a trip that was going to cost a large chunk of their life and guaranteed they will never see anyone they know ever again. Despite what they say about bringing only the best people, a job like that is going to attract desperate and unstable individuals. The real tops of their fields are still on earth with their families.

It's funny how much people complain about taking the helmets off when it has 0 impact on what happened. It's a misdirect. There are 0 deaths or infections due to not having a helmet on. They discuss how bad an idea it is. Do it, then the moment there is anything suspicious they put them back on. If they kept them on the entire time everything still would have happened. >The Prometheus guys are supposed to be professionals that just keep making a bunch of monumentally stupid decisions that shouldn't make sense given their background. Even with their background they are still human. They were confronted by what many would consider the impossible. None of the scientific crew outside the Shaws were aware of the true mission. They signed up for some back water planet survey wake up and are told oh by the way we are here to explore the possibility of intelligent alien life. This is the last wish of the arguably most important person on earth. And then the actually find proof of an alien civilization. That's gonna knock a lot of people off their game. Professional or not they didn't sign up for that mission, may have never wanted to sign up for that mission, and likely would be struggling with the implications.

I agree with you and that is a great point.

Totally agree. The Engineers are so much more interesting than the Xenomorphs.

>Covenant’s characters are largely better at making decisions save for taking off their helmets. [It was the first TV tropes page to have a subpage for how stupid its characters acted lmao.](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WhatAnIdiot/AlienCovenant)

I watched Covenant again a couple of night ago. The first 30 minutes are almost a comedy. The acting is laughably bad and their decision making is so stupid that I almost started laughing. It’s a ridiculous film. So dumb. The only good thing about it is the Fassbender bits.

one character died by slipping in blood c'mon. I just hate when cool movies have to be made into horror movies. Even if this is alien, this trilogy could be just about engineers, what is to be a creator and the responsability of it. And in the last movie the alien reveal. That could be fantastic.

It would have been so simple to solve this: "Yeah Cap, scanners show the right amount of oh-two and no issues on the bio-hazard scanner." "Got it, thanks, f****** hate when we have to wear these helmets" ANYTHING LIKE THAT. Could be done and addressed in a 5-second clip.

> Covenant’s characters are largely better at making decisions save for taking off their helmets. And looking at weird, pulsating wet eggs.

Really well said! Yeah, Charlize Theron was wasted here.

If you liked prometheus, watch the sequels too.. Covenant & Romulus. They are also about planet exploring. Other than that, here are couple movies.. 1. Riddick Series >> Pitch Black (2000), The Chronicles of Riddick (2004), Riddick (2013). The second movies isn't really planet exploring, but to understand the 3rd one, you need to watch it. 2. Annihilation (2018) 3. Europa Report (2013) 4. Life (2017) 5. Event Horizon (1997) 6. Predators (2010) 7. Alien (1979)

Alien, and Alien: Covenant, being the same guy is shocking on its own.