This guy being an Staff Sergeant (E6) at age 23 means that he has excelled as a soldier and this is how they treat him and his family?
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RedwoodDevotion5 days ago
+1666
Trump hates the troops, too. Really not a surprise.
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tyfung5 days ago
+343
especially those that get captured.
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KidOcelot5 days ago
+88
At least the soldier will know that their spouse wont cheat while he’s touring…
#/s
Although the wife may get SAd in ICE camps though…
#RAMBO 10?
Would be great to see people oppose tyranny.
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thegroucho4 days ago
+58
With Stallone calling Trump "second George Washington", I think it will have to be a different movie franchise.
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Lucius-Halthier4 days ago
+21
Rambo defecting to the Russians would be a wild one
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thegroucho4 days ago
+18
I've never visited USA, but seen these T-shirts saying "I'd rather be Russian than a Democrat"...
I'd have said you can attach a turbine to Reagan's corpse and it would provide infinite unlimited energy from him turning in his grave seeing GOP getting all mushy with Kremlin, but if he was to be resurrected, he might join MAGA.
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VagrantShadow4 days ago
+15
Hell, last year we saw news of that texan family that left texas of all places because they felt that state was becoming too woke and they moved to russia with their three daughters. Then the father of that family was drafted into the Ukrainian war which russia started and hew as in the field. Some reports claimed he died in the field, but I believe he did return back to his family. However, I don't know if he got placed into the field again.
Needlessly to say, there more than enough idiots that live in the United States that would move to russia because they feel that places would be better and putin would have no problem putting them in the war that he started.
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masterofshadows4 days ago
+5
He didn't get drafted, he volunteered! Then was bitching about being sent to combat
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KidOcelot4 days ago
+12
Well, if not Rambo, then:
#Hot Shots! Part Deux
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Cassius_man4 days ago
+7
Hot Shots! Part Treux
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jhenryscott4 days ago
+3
I’m almost 40 and my college years were spent almost entirely in the service of our best and bravest’s wives 🫡
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JohnnySkynets5 days ago
+63
r/TrumpHatesTheTroops
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Soulsfarmer4 days ago
+18
Trump is a Russian asset
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LinkedGaming4 days ago
+7
Trump loves the military as an apparatus for killing people he doesn't like.
Trump hates troops because he has to demean and belittle them to retroactively make his family history of draft-dodging cowardice seem twisted into acts of intelligence and cunning.
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Saneless4 days ago
+4
I really don't understand how people in the military support Republicans unless they're looking to be taken advantage of or killed
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cricket98185 days ago
+189
You just thought about it more than anyone in the regime has
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carnage1235 days ago
+77
Its probably because they dont give a shit
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KwyjiboTheGringo4 days ago
+36
MAGA supporters are fine with sending troops off to die in pointless wars. What makes you think they are going to care about this guy and his wife?
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EarthRester4 days ago
+4
It just goes to show the sheer stupidity of this administration. If we're willing to think like an abhorrent monster, we can understand that there is a measure of safety in f****** over troops by getting them needlessly hurt/killed. Because at least then you've likely neutralized the people that have been turned into trained killers.
How is it...in ***ANY WAY*** a good idea to turn young (mostly men) into killers, then immediately make it clear to them that *YOU* are their greatest enemy by abducting their families?
This is how you fuel an armed separatist movement!
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derangedplague4 days ago
+28
Ask him who he voted for real quick. Terrible to say, but he probably voted for the very policies that are affecting him now and I have little sympathy.
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rexspook4 days ago
+5
Trump hates America, especially our military
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armywalrus4 days ago
+6
If he enlisted at 17 then six years if service isn't abnormal for E6. Its not age.
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Dabzilla_710_5 days ago
+19
Doubtful. I can nearly guarantee he was waivered up and basically forced into studying for promo to E6. I never met a single E6 with 5 yrs in, regardless of background.
They still did him dirty, just want to clarify how promotions work in the military; it's mostly ass kissing and NCOs that want your achievements on their record showing that THEY made it possible and how good they are and that's why you're good too.
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SirWEM4 days ago
+24
It is still very possible i enlisted as E-4. Was bumped up from having college credits and a degree. If he didn’t screw up, did the required course work. For the promotion and got it good on him. Five years is enough time. My dad did it in 6.
As far as what ICE did thats pretty fucked up.
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TheRealHeroOf4 days ago
+8
The only 5 year e6s I've met were Navy nuclear techs. Very possible for them. Outside of that anything under 8 is uncommon.
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armywalrus4 days ago
+7
In 2005, I was promoted to Staff Sergeant in 3 years.
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fellatio-del-toro4 days ago
+3
E6 at age 23 is totally young. But that’s very rarely based on merit. Passing the promotion board can be tough, don’t get me wrong. But all I needed was to pass one event of the PT test to have double the points I needed to pin E6. Certainly wouldn’t need a waiver if he joined at 18.
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johnny_mcd4 days ago
+2
They will do anything to meet a quota.
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Ryzakiii4 days ago
+2
Just another disposable Hero in America.
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Shinjischneider4 days ago
+2
That's what people voted for.
Wouldn't be surprised if the staff sergeant himself voted for Trump
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releaseepsteinfiles15 days ago
+3209
I hope they keep it up. I hope they manage to alienate and piss off every single American, one way or another. Something needs to happen to get the all the people enraged & energized to make a change.
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katsrad5 days ago
+752
Your first sentence made me think you thought the deportation was a good thing, then I kept reading and was relieved.
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releaseepsteinfiles15 days ago
+312
It wasn’t done on purpose, but you are correct. I am glad you kept reading. I noticed it as I was hitting submit when posting it. At first it was only 2 sentences and I edited to add the 3rd sentence just to make sure it was clear that I am 100% against ICE and donald “KID RAPING” trump
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UnPrecidential5 days ago
+66
Kid Rock and Kid R***, name a more sinister duo.
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whut-whut5 days ago
+15
Duo? You listed just one thing.
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katsrad5 days ago
+6
You are ok! Sometimes we get a comment out tooz fast or, in my case most of the time, it sounds good in your head and comes out all wrong.
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sickbandnamealert5 days ago
+10
They had us in the first half, not gonna lie
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arul205 days ago
+42
Sure. Annnnnnnny day now the sheeple will wake up.
Bush Iraq/Afghan era,
Trump 2016-2020 era,
Trump's "grab p****" c***,
Trump Epstein child r*** pedophile c***,
Trump occupy Greenland c***,
Trump ICE + Minnesota c***,
Trump Maduro c***,
Trump Iran c*** ...
NOW they will wake up ..
Maybe you're the one asleep and dreaming ..
Edit - I forgot:
Trump's MAGA mob in Capitol c*** ..
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Gutternips5 days ago
+16
You missed out so much. Iran/contra, Nicaragua, Vietnam, Belize, Libya, Cuba and dozens more American adventures.
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arul205 days ago
+7
No point including everything. Just the last 20 years should be fresh enough and convincing enough.
If that doesnt convince, adding more isn't going to wake up sleeping sheeple.
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DuncanConnell4 days ago
+2
Carlin said it best that the American Dream is so-called because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Equivalent-Battle9734 days ago
+2
IDK, yesterday after his stupid profanity tweet, alot of people on the con sub called him out on it, saying hes a moron.
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Jayken5 days ago
+166
America is about about to go through a reckoning. There's no going back to normal after this, even if the institutions are rebuilt. MAGA has declared themselves the only True Americans. Everyone else is an enemy to them. Peace is no longer an option.
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quats5555 days ago
+106
And you know what? If they did indeed get rid of everybody else and it was only pure MAGA left, then they’d come up with some new standard that some MAGA couldn’t meet to define who is currently “people” and who are the new targets. This type *always* has to have an enemy.
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DonovanSpectre5 days ago
+53
That's how fascism/authoritarianism works. Leadership can never take responsibility for any faults/mistakes(which are bound to happen because 'loyalty' to the party/autocrat is the only true qualification, not any actual ability), or else people might start questioning them, so it all has to be blamed on whoever the manufactured 'outgroup' currently is.
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matdan125 days ago
+20
We've already seen how willing they are to throw people under the bus whenever there is a collosal stuff up. Just see Noem, Bolton and that army general Hegseth kicked to the curb. Loyalty doesn't mean anything, you're either in or out, everyone else to them are suckers and losers.
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cantproveidid5 days ago
+13
The only thing worse than how they were capriciously fired, is the fact they were ever nominated and confirmed to those positions to begin with.
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RayzTheRoof5 days ago
+11
Yes this is how fascism works. They keep pushing the border of what defines a citizen further inward. It's the ab exaggeration; they're doing a fascism.
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tacoheadbob5 days ago
+5
“Four legs good, two legs better”
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Charlie_Mouse4 days ago
+2
That’s not a bug, it’s a feature as far as the authoritarian leaders running the show are concerned.
Particularly when they hit the point a few years in where they’ve implemented their program and persecuted minorities and/or implemented whatever economic system they favour (corporatism for fascists, communism for Stalinists, likely some flavour of kleptocracy for a lot of third world juntas and Trump).
But there’s a problem (usually a whole bunch of them) - it becomes very hard to ignore by that point that reality stubbornly refuses to become the prosperous land of traditional values/sunlit uplands/workers paradise etc. that the ideology promised would happen. In fact often most people are *less* well off than they were.
Does the authoritarian regime admit the ideology was wrong? Of course not. The problems can only be because of traitors/saboteurs/the enemy within. “The revolution cannot fail it can only be failed”.
Right about this point such regimes often start stacking up bodies like cordwood even if they weren’t before. Naturally this doesn’t fix anything but it’s usually a useful distraction for the populace and makes most people too afraid to point out loud the discrepancies between reality and what was promised. Both of which make a counter revolution less likely which is all the leadership are actually worried about.
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[deleted]5 days ago
+36
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NerdySongwriter5 days ago
+20
Which is why they must be declared as terrorist and all those who have sympathized with their cause will need to be dealt with by force of law. It will be a massive undertaking that our country desperately needs.
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alexefi5 days ago
+14
The best we can do is "its not a good time to divide the nation"
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Spookyrabbit5 days ago
+2
I have money on this outcome.
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Frowny5755 days ago
+4
[ Removed by Listnook ]
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Roadtrekkie5 days ago
+2
At least they are building lots of camps to incarcerate the terrorists MAGAS.
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fevered_visions5 days ago
+9
"[Let everyone who wishes the Republic to be safe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senatus_consultum_ultimum), come with me [to murder the problem people who apparently can't be stopped politically]."
The Republicans seem to be wagering a hell of a lot on the assumption that they'll be the ones with the power indefinitely. I swear they're purposefully escalating things to the point where the only way to fix it will be to f****** murder them. Gaslight Obstruct Project
Although they assassinated Caesar too, but that didn't stop what he put in motion :/
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Prestigious_Tax_49705 days ago
+4
" the revolution will be bloodless if the left allows it to be"
Theyre ready for it to not be peaceful.
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DragonflyOwn68494 days ago
+2
All the more reason you should be arming yourself and your friends/family. Otherwise you're not peaceful, you're harmless. There's only one cure for fascism, luckily it comes in a variety of sizes for people of all ability levels!
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Javasteam5 days ago
+4
Yeah, another article today was Florida’s AG flat out refusing to follow part of the Florida constitution he didn’t like.
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Bored_Acolyte_445 days ago
+2
About to? We have been going through one for a decade.
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kstargate-4255 days ago
+48
Unfortunately this isnt the first time and doesnt seem to be changing minds much as I just read today that a wife of a soldier was just released after spending 4 months in the concentration camps with 60 other women in a small room with zero privacy, little food and water and little medication for those in need. The wife was depressed obviously, after getting out but because she has a survivors guilt thing where she worries about the others while she got out.
The government didnt even try and act sympathetic or anything and said they will continue to ensure anyone illegal (she was legally here and married) was sent home and that if they didnt want to spend months in inhumane conditions in a concentration camp they should use the government app, turn themselves in and get deported. Of course the people who have done that get sent to these same camps for 6+ months as its all a money making scheme and transfer of taxpayers money to the select few as the 2 companies holding the around 100,000 immigrants gets $15 MILLION a DAY to hold them.
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BodybuilderMany69425 days ago
+10
Well see, the issue is the people who are still MAGA are the types that dont change/care unless things hurt **them**, and a certain fraction actually care what happens to friends/family.
Perhaps this soldier isnt MAGA, but maybe they have a friend or family member that are.
For each person ICE fucks, there is potential for at least one MAGA to be shaken or even turn.
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unclecaveman15 days ago
+20
It shouldn’t require everyone to be hurt to make them care. That’s f****** sad. Caring about other people shouldn’t be the exception.
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Spookyrabbit5 days ago
+19
You haven't spent much time with conservatives, have you?
They're functionally incapable of caring about anyone outside their own immediate family.
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uncerety4 days ago
+6
Outside of themselves. Fathers who don't care if their daughters get raped, only that there's no one to help keep the house clean.
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Spookyrabbit3 days ago
+2
Apparently the women caring if their daughter gets raped - but not caring so they wouldn't force them to carry their rapist's baby to term, even at 10 yrs old - balances out the extreme egocentricity of conservatives men.
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LockelyFox5 days ago
+7
And only the ones who are cishet. Those of us in the LGBTQIA+ community have been disowned, are hiding in the closet, or had to go no contact. It's very rare to find otherwise.
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within_one_stem5 days ago
+5
We're talking about the "sin of empathy" people here...
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bartz8245 days ago
+9
It ain't gonna change. Too many of the clowns who have had spouses or significant others detained by ICE are still completely on board with the Trump administration deporting illegals. They just think there's a way to work it out so their SO gets out and they can be together again.
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DangerousBill5 days ago
+7
A third of Americans are thrilled with what he's doing. Another third are unaware and don't care. There will be no uprising
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MethWhizz5 days ago
+6
Nothing is gonna happen. Majority of people are pacified by the lifestyle, there aren't gonna be many willing to sacrifice a generally comfortable life to fight for what's right. I confidently say this from a perspective of someone protesting a very similar type of rulership for a year and a half. And our standards of living are waaaay worse. Still, i see many people turning a blind eye on all the corruption (that started taking lives btw) just because they are secure.
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TheNatural140635 days ago
+15
I especially hope they alienate people in uniform who have guns and the military eventually turns on him in a coup.
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bros4025 days ago
+11
We do not want a coup.
We do want the military to not try to keep Trump in office if he tries to do so after his second term ends.
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Spookyrabbit5 days ago
+3
Trump's unlikely to see out the end of his second term.
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[deleted]5 days ago
+15
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Same-Suggestion-19365 days ago
+16
If conservatives dropped support because law enforcement kept targeting sympathetic victims we would have full police reform by now
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Cute-Pomegranate-9665 days ago
+3
They don't have to lose those people..they just have to piss off the ones that never voted before and only voted cuz Trump seemed different. This is why he's so uniquely bad. He activated the dumbest people that never voted... To vote.
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Accomplished-Fly46785 days ago
+4
“Something needs to happen”
This story is incredibly mild compared to some of the other things ICE agents have done in recent past. If nothing has happened yet, nothing will ever happen
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RAF20183365 days ago
+10
lol. White people getting shot didn’t even cause white people to finally wake the f*** up and do something other than just a pre approved peace march.
Like MLK said, the worst enemy of change is “the white moderate, who is more devoted to 'order' than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice”
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Q_OANN5 days ago
+5
I just hope I live until there’s justice, like the most brutal justice to maga from influencers all the way up
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Mythosaurus4 days ago
+2
That’s been my conclusion too, conservatives need to destroy their own reputation as thoroughly as possible.
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strugglz4 days ago
+2
I surely would not be giving my best to an employer that just arrested my wife.
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MaygarRodub4 days ago
+2
High price to pay for the victims.
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RU_Pickman5 days ago
+4
Vicariously I live while the whole world dies.
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KwisatzHaderach945 days ago
+2
they have learned literally nothing from the events of march. noem's been fired and they still made zero changes to their policies.
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caveman_rejoice5 days ago
+2
Marines graduation next week in Parris Island, SC. ICE is supposed to be there.
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saro135 days ago
+2
Nothing’s going to happen until they oppress the majority of people that “matter.” The majority of people are able to eat to fullness and be entertained and can spout their opinion without consequence, and until that changes, nothing will stop the people in power as they pick our pockets and enrich themselves and their friends.
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roskatili5 days ago
+2
I keep on pondering when will veterans have enough of ICE's shenanigans and capture all ICE personnel to put an end to this madness. Soldiers swear an oath to protect against domestic enemies too.
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Andy_LaVolpe5 days ago
+1
I feel like any american that isn’t pissed at the current admin, is either an oligarch or in deep denial of how shitty things have gotten.
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Factsonly420695 days ago
+3
They executed two people on camera and Americans just moved on. Nothing is going to change in that country.
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2HDFloppyDisk5 days ago
+1333
His wife entered the US as a toddler. Clearly she’s a harden criminal and danger to us all.
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wholesomeriots5 days ago
+603
She entered the country as a toddler and teaches Sunday school. So dangerous
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FillFrontFloor4 days ago
+86
I remember when Obama put that offer for people just like her. Join the military or go to school and they'll give you residency. If we had a better government this could have been solved at the benefit of the country.
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armywalrus4 days ago
+45
It wasn't just Obama. Military service as a valid path to citizenship has been offered before. It comes and goes based on the needs of the military. When they get desperate for numbers, like they did when we were in both Iraq and Afghanistan without the draft, they bring it back.
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willstr14 days ago
+15
"Would you like to know more?"
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Hadleys1584 days ago
+16
It shouldn't just be military service though, it should be any public service, EMT, fire, emergency/rescue units, CCC type units.
If you had a "proper" FEMA, that could be an avenue as well.
Make it say a 1 or 4 year contract, if you complete it you are on the path to becoming a citizen.
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armywalrus4 days ago
+3
I agree. I don't make the rules.
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TingleyStorm4 days ago
+4
She might teach kids that Jesus loves and accepts everyone and to be like Jesus. We can’t have that now, can we??
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So_HauserAspen5 days ago
+72
Toddlers have a history of shooting family members
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Moneyshot_ITF5 days ago
+18
That's why USA and Israel keep bombing schools
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Ok-disaster20225 days ago
+70
Dude what to you want ICE to do with the quota system? Go after hardened criminals and risk not getting that bonus that doesn't pay out until after 5 years or go arrest peaceful civilians contribting to society. They're going for the easy picking because genocide is easier when people don't resist.
I gotta admit I stated this comment intending to be satire but it ends with genocide.
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TheWorclown4 days ago
+2
Well considering they’re *already* reportedly not getting paychecks for their work and that if they quit or lose their jobs for whatever reason they have to pay back that bonus… and it pays out after five years but from a man only with four years in office…
ICE agents are not only fascist scum, but they’re genuine dumbasses who got fleeced hard.
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cjinct5 days ago
+16
Why do you think it's called 'the terrible twos'? o.O
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Lopsided-Rough-15625 days ago
+25
He married a toddler? Sick bro.
Kidding.
Couldn't figure out whether to say 'i dunno .. toddlers are kinda assholes' or that
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raevnos5 days ago
+25
If he did that, Trump would probably promote him.
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No-Split77325 days ago
+4
> His wife entered the US as a toddler
She really started the crime life young, thank god they finally detained her! /s
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Ditka855 days ago
+490
“This administration is not going to ignore the rule of law.”
What a crock of shit.
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Same-Suggestion-19365 days ago
+221
Vance said the other day of the new AG that "no amount of fraud is too small or too large to look into"
Trump has pardoned *several* people over fraud. Your average Republican voter is a moron
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SYLOH5 days ago
+29
They looked into it, and found they could be paid enough.
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Taban854 days ago
+18
He pardoned one guy twice! Once for fraud during his first presidency and then the guy managed to get convicted for fraud again and got a second pardon during his second presidency
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fevered_visions5 days ago
+12
I really wish these fuckwits would spontaneously burst into flame when they make such a blatantly hypocritical statement like this
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Bituulzman5 days ago
+8
That line stood out to me too.
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CatOfTechnology5 days ago
+5
It's not a crock of shit because people just missed the second, unspoken part.
"This administration is not going to ignore the rule of law, *we're going to piss in it's face while we violate it, intentionally.*"
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swolfington5 days ago
+4
never forget, all of this is in service of keeping trump out of jail. the rule of law means nothing to them. its just an excuse they can say out loud while winking at the maga base so they continue to plunder america under "plausible" deniability.
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ThePensiveE5 days ago
+316
She committed crimes as a toddler. This administration only gives you a pass if you commit crimes against a toddler.
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SpoRenPas5 days ago
+224
So f****** evil. These ICE 'officers' are an evil joke on America. F*** Trump and all his sick, twisted and evil trolls.
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So_HauserAspen5 days ago
+31
If we do escape this hell and have the opportunity to prosecute, I think we should give them to Iran as a peace offering. Let Iran handle the business of punishment.
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CatOfTechnology5 days ago
+23
But first, strip them of all assets.
I don't want a single backroom deals that leaves a single one of them living comfortably.
Take everything they own, liquidate it, push that shit through the economy and then, only when they've had to watch their life's hoarding turn in to welfare funding do you ship them all off to Iran for judgement.
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TequilaJoeseph5 days ago
+2
The line that said the ice agents claimed they didn’t want to do it but were following orders from the higher ups is absolutely despicable.
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Couchman795 days ago
+138
ICE in its current version is an example of what happens when mercenaries become government employees and are expected to make an arrest/detainment quota every month. DOGE is everywhere. ICE detainment quotas were numbers a DOGE/DHS creation based on a mystery formula. Doesn't matter if it's a 3 month old and the child's mother, a 6 year old and his father coming home from school or the spouse of a US military member being shipped out. They all help make monthly quota.
Drug lords, their drivers, gun runners? Oh Hell No, that's difficult dangerous work. Pay no attention to that "Worst of the worst" blather when there are folks just going about their lives or looking for work who can be picked up, held without hearings, shipped to holding camps multiple states away and incarcerated for months while families searched h for them.
Welcome to 1930's Germany in 2026 United States of America.
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Infamous-Sky-18745 days ago
+21
Ever watched Robocop 3? ICE are the REHABs.
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[deleted]5 days ago
+9
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hasturofelhalyn5 days ago
+4
They weren't out there for systematic quotas back then. Being SA meant a lot of privileges but no payment in the lower ranks.
The legal German was safe from the SA when they were not resisting the system or being a socialist or worse, a communist. They were more on the political fight with brawling communists during election rallies and of course persecuting Jewish people after taking over the power 1933.
The SA men were also full of hate for different looking people and they were assisting the police after 1933 in detaining them. The similarities to a certain current organisation is striking.
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Cute-Pomegranate-9665 days ago
+20
The quota is so they can fill up all the detainment centers so the for profit prison industry gets maximum value for holding them.
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DisillusionedPatriot4 days ago
+2
It's what they paid for, [after all.](https://abcnews.com/US/private-prison-firms-contributed-1m-trumps-reelection-now/story?id=116046776)
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Kairia19895 days ago
+497
ICE really out here proving irony isn’t dead detaining a soldier’s spouse while he’s training to defend the country.
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Missfreeland5 days ago
+234
Defend the country from what
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HobbesNJ5 days ago
+224
From his wife, obviously. She's a threat to the country!
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paleo20025 days ago
+56
If only it was fascism …
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Feisty-Barracuda54525 days ago
+45
Defend the crooked pedo from accountability.
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Successful-Medicine95 days ago
+64
From the people we attack first without war authorization.
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cjsv76575 days ago
+10
From enemies foreign and domes..... uhh more foreign
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Succ-MY-Scythe5 days ago
+10
A war trumps ego started
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airfryerfuntime5 days ago
+12
Affordable gas prices.
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releaseepsteinfiles15 days ago
+31
I think you meant to put “defend” the country. To be even more specific, you could say “go fight for Israel, fight to distract from Epstein and donald “KID RAPING” trump, AND to make the rich, even richer”.
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RerollWarlock5 days ago
+9
Your f****** country did not need defending since pearl harbour. Be f****** real.
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NobodyXNo4 days ago
+49
Unfortunately this isn't the first case, ICE has repeatedly made attempts and even succeed in detaining spouses of service members here is another situation covered by the news
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/army-reserve-black-hawk-pilot-wife-release-ice-texas-detention-rcna266000
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JmBento5 days ago
+90
Working on troop morale ahead of deployment, I see.
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doneandtired20145 days ago
+22
The troops are getting it on both ends: the Sec Def is as much a white supremacist as he is a misogynist and ICE have basically adopted the mantra "If ya ain't white, you ain't right".
Tangentially related: f*** anyone who voted for this shit show, you're a f****** Nazi. To anyone who thought soap boxes and temper tantrums were the path forward, you're collaborators and can get fucked too.
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JmBento4 days ago
+2
Yeah, but, like, Harris's laugh, y'know. /s
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13thmurder5 days ago
+47
If you want a soldier to sabotage an important mission, that's probably a great way to encourage them to lose all loyalty to the country.
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RerollWarlock5 days ago
+14
Enemy spy networks have the easiest recruitment drives in years i bet.
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ViolettaQueso5 days ago
+24
This is what the troops can expect.
Trump is going to use you up and break you into pieces.
I hope she’s not pregnant yet. I also hope she’s not with one of the groups of ICE members that have been sexually abusing young female detainees.
It’s a thing, and nobody’s doing a single thing about it.
Once she gets out, I sure hope she’s and her husband speak out about this.
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TimeEngineering30815 days ago
+9
are you guys sure your american army is a united front? because you pull shit like this with army peoples families...you might end up losing half the country, forget losing a war...
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Moquai824 days ago
+3
The U.S. military is complicit. Otherwise there would have been a coup month ago to reinstate a non corrupt government or a "better" junta.
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chef-nom-nom4 days ago
+8
For anyone who didn't make it until the end, this might very well be the most sickening part:
> On Saturday, he and his mother traveled to the detention center in Basile, La. with the completed form to apply for Ms. Ramos’s green card. It only needed her signature.
> Guards barred them from bringing anything inside.
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AndrewH733335 days ago
+48
His wife entered the US as a toddler. But before that she was a hardened criminal. ICE knows what it’s doing.
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008Zulu5 days ago
+7
Stealing someone's juice box is apparently a deport-able offense now.
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JaimeRidingHonour5 days ago
+32
Fire all your generals and arrest the spouses of deploying soldiers…that’ll show those fuckin libs. /s
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Key_Opinion_77734 days ago
+8
Ice needs to be deployed. Losers want to cosplay being military they can go do it for real and earn the uniform.
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Master-Rent50505 days ago
+16
The USA military does not even have the guts to protect their own from a bunch of goons. No wonder they keep losing wars
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sargonas4 days ago
+3
Hell it was base personnel who contacted ICE about her in the first place!
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CurrentlyLucid5 days ago
+6
Way to support our troops. F*** ICE.
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LongBongJohnSilver5 days ago
+13
Its gotta make going to war for no reason less fun.
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PerturbedMarsupial4 days ago
+6
So basically it was the attendant at the base's visitor center and some higher up at the base that called ICE. That's fucked up.
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rabbit9945 days ago
+16
This isn't first time this has happened with Trump in office, it's been policy for months now. Military has been instructed to following policy which technically bars anyone without legal status from military base and orders them to contact ICE.
It's a shame his lawyer or someone in his chain of command didn't tell him, "Keep her away from base until paperwork is properly shuffled."
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Decent_Flow1404 days ago
+5
It sounds like their lawyer wasn’t super up to date on what’s been going on. She told them how things normally go without mentioning that ICE has detained quite a number of people lately who were doing things the customary way.
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sillylittlguy4 days ago
+2
and didn't get her signature asap for the green card application. kinda seems like their lawyer sucks (not trying to minimize or deflect evil of us admin ice etc)
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Decent_Flow1404 days ago
+3
Yeah this is definitely on ICE but still. I’ve been reading news articles for months now of this kind of shit happening and immigration lawyers saying this is not how it’s ever been, they’re changing the whole process, they’re deporting people who normally would be given their green card no problem, etc etc. Which is terrible, but at this point if I, a random person with no involvement, am aware that it’s happening I feel like an immigration lawyer certainly should be.
It sucks for them though. When you hire a lawyer, especially one who specializes in what you need them for, you expect to be able to trust what they’re telling you.
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Just_another_grumble5 days ago
+4
this Agency and lack of due process is another symptom of US's slide into Fascism. Completely disassemble them, airport theater, and homelanders.
As long as the voting is representative enough with jerrymandered districts, the voters and electoral college picked what America deserves at that moment. As if the insider trading politicians and their ultra wealthy backers care about the common good.
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akila2194 days ago
+5
He’s 23yo, already an E6. That’s pretty impressive in the enlisted community in the Military.
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__Nels__Oleson__5 days ago
+54
Your country is fucked.
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Ok-Crow-15155 days ago
+28
It really is a sick country right now and it looks like it's going to get alot worse.
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__Nels__Oleson__5 days ago
+20
Pretty sure I won't be visiting your country for the rest of my life.
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sandman988575 days ago
+13
Don't blame you one bit, many of us are embarrassed to continue to live here.
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Sushrit_Lawliet5 days ago
+17
ICE should go fight trump’s wars on foreign soil if they’re so keen on locking arms with military personnel
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OhItsBeenBroughten4 days ago
+5
The reason they’re ICE is that they don’t qualify to enlist in the military nor join actual police forces. They’re the dregs of society. Same as the Brownshirts were. Complete losers who get to feel powerful for once in their lives.
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Life-Sun-5 days ago
+3
No. The civilians suffering under the US invasions would suffer even more.
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superturtle485 days ago
+9
Surely this will resolve the military’s recruiting crisis!
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meatychops5 days ago
+4
ice , doing such a great job disappearing all these “immigrant criminals” from society , even US soldiers who excel at their jobs , I’m
sure Trump will label him as a paid agitator or somebody who will eat your cats and dogs
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IvoShandor4 days ago
+4
Seriously, how does a toddler commit a crime?
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SalSimNS24 days ago
+4
Can she get one of those Melania "genius" awards and become a citizen? /s
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JimBeam8234 days ago
+3
They enjoy the cruelty.
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FETUS_JAM4 days ago
+4
Her husband will say thank you trump and ask him to take more VA benefits away.
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porcupinedeath4 days ago
+4
Hope this makes him think about what he's fighting for
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HelpfulFail46095 days ago
+11
We like to pretend this is Trump's fault but it's really just a quarter-millenia of white christian nationalist American Exceptionalism playing out its inevitable conclusions.
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JimBeam8234 days ago
+3
Trump himself doesn’t care, but he needs white Christian nationalists to take and keep power.
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blac_sheep905 days ago
+3
They'll gladly round up any and everyone their cult leader tells them to.
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ClintBruno4 days ago
+6
Trump's record on military and vets
• Only 1 Trump in America has served in the military (Fred Trump, Don's brother, served in the Air National Guard); this spans 5 generations, and every branch of the family tree. In fact, the reason his grandfather immigrated to America was to avoid military service.
• Children of deployed US troops will no longer get automatic American citizenship if born overseas during deployment. This includes US troops posted abroad for years at a time (August 28, 2019)
• On August 2, 2019, Trump requisitioned military retirement funds towards border wall
• On July 31, 2019, Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who were prosecuting war criminals
• In July 2019, Trump denied a United States Marine of 6 years entry into the United States for his scheduled citizenship interview (Reported July 17, 2019)
• Trump made the U.S. Navy Blue Angels violate ethics rules by having them fly at his July 4th political campaign (July 4, 2019)
• Trump demanded US military chiefs stand next to him at 4th of July parade (reported July 2, 2019)
• In June, 2019, Trump sent troops to the border to paint the fence for a better "aesthetic appearance" (June 7, 2019)
• Trump used his D-Day interview at a cemetery commemorating fallen US soldiers to attack a Vietnam veteran (June 6, 2019)
• Trump started his D-Day commemoration speech by attacking a private citizen (Bette Midler, of all people) (reported on June 4th, 2019)
• Trump made his 2nd wife, Marla Maples, sign a prenup that would have cut off all child support if Tiffany joined the military (reported on June 4th, 2019)
• On May 27, 2019, Trump turned away US military from his Memorial Day speech because they were from the destroyer USS John S. McCain
• Trump ordered the USS John McCain out of sight during his visit to Japan (May 15, 2019). The ship's name was subsequently covered. (May 27, 2019)
• Trump pardoned war criminals (May, 2019)
• Trump purged 200,000 veterans healthcare applications (due to known administrative errors within VA’s enrollment process and enrollment system) (reported on May 13, 2019)
• Trump deported a spouse of fallen Army soldier killed in Afghanistan, leaving their daughter parentless (April 16, 2019)
• On March 20, 2019, Trump complained that a deceased war hero didn't thank him for his funeral
• He refused to sign his party's funding bill, which shut down the government, and forced a branch of the military to go without pay. This branch of military was forced to work without pay, otherwise they would be AWOL. However, his appointees got a $10,000 pay raise (Dec 22, 2018 – Jan 25, 2019)
• He didn't pay the Coast Guard, forcing service members to rely on food pantries (Jan 23, 2019)
• He banned service members from serving based on gender identity (Jan 22, 2019)
• He denied female troops access to birth control to limit sexual activity (on-going. Published Jan 18, 2019)
• He tried to deport a marine vet who is a U.S.-born citizen (Jan 16, 2019)
• When a man was caught swindling veterans pensions for high-interest “cash advances," Trump's Consumer Financial Protection Bureau fined him $1. As a reminder, the Trump administration's goal was to dismantle the CFPB, installing Mick Mulvaney as the director, who publicly stated the bureau should be disbanded. (Jan 26, 2019)
• He called a retired general a 'dog' with a 'big, dumb mouth' (Jan 1, 2019)
• He increased privatization of the VA, leading to longer waits and higher taxpayer cost (2018)
• He finally visited troops 2 years after taking office, but only after 154 vacation days at his properties (Dec 26, 2018)
• He revealed a covert Seal Team 5 deployment, including names and faces, on Twitter during his visit to Iraq (Dec 26, 2018)
• Trump lied to deployed troops that he gave them a 10% raise. He didn't give them a 10% raise (Dec 26, 2018). He initially tried to give the military a raise that was lower than the standard living adjustment. This was before Congress told him that idea wasn't going to work. Then after giving them the raise that Congress made him, he lied about it pretending that it was larger than Obama's. It wasn't.
• He fired service members living with HIV just before the 2018 holidays (Dec 19, 2018-present)
• He tried to slash disability and unemployment benefits for Veterans to $0, and eliminate the unemployability extrascheduler rating (Dec 17, 2018)
• He got three Mar-a-Lago guests to run the VA (unknown start - present, made well-known in 2018)
• He called troops on Thanksgiving and told them he's most thankful for himself (Thanksgiving, 2018)
• He urged Florida to not count deployed military votes (Nov 12, 2018)
• While in Europe commemorating the end of WWI, he didn't attend the ceremony at a US cemetery due to the rain - but other world leaders went anyway (Nov 10, 2018)
• He used troops as a political prop by sending them on a phantom mission to the border and made them miss Thanksgiving with their families (Oct-Dec, 2018)
• He stopped using troops as a political prop immediately after the election. However, the troops remained in muddy camps on the border (Nov 7, 2018)
• Trump changed the GI Bill through his Forever GI Act, causing the VA to miss veteran benefits, including housing allowances. This caused many veterans to run out of food and rent. “You can count on us to serve, but we can’t count on the VA to make a deadline,” one veteran said. (reported October 7, 2018)
• Trump doubled the rejection rate for veterans requesting family deportation protections (July 5, 2018)
• Trump deported active-duty spouses (11,800 military families face this problem as of April 2018)
• He forgot a fallen soldier's name (below) during a call to his pregnant widow, then attacked her the next day (Oct 23-24, 2017)
• He sent commandos into an ambush due to a lack of intel, and sends contractors to pick them up, resulting in a commando being left behind, tortured, and executed. (Trump approved the mission because Bannon told him Obama didn't have the guts to do it) (Oct 4, 2017)
• He blocked a veteran group on Twitter (June 2017)
• He ordered the discharge of active-duty immigrant troops with good records (2017-present)
• He deported veterans (2017-present)
• He said he knows more about ISIS than American generals (Oct 2016)
• He said vets get PTSD because they aren't strong (Oct 3, 2016) (note: yes, he said it's 'because they aren't strong.' He didn't say it's 'because they're weak.' This distinction is important because of Snopes)
• Trump accepted a Purple Heart from a fan at one of his rallies and said: “I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier.” (Aug 2, 2016)
• Trump attacks Gold Star families - Myeshia Johnson--gold star widow, Khan family--gold star parents, etc. (2016-present)
• Trump sent funds raised from a January 2016 veterans benefit to the Donald J Trump Foundation instead of veterans charities (the foundation has since been ordered shut because of fraud) (Jan, 2016)
• Trump said "I felt that I was in the military in the true sense because I dealt with those people" because he went to a military-style academy and that he has "more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military". (2015 biography)
• For a decade, Trump sought to kick veterans off of Fifth Avenue because he found them unsightly nuisances outside of Trump Tower. “While disabled veterans should be given every opportunity to earn a living, is it fair to do so to the detriment of the city as a whole or its tax paying citizens and businesses?” - 1991
• Trump dodged the draft 5 times by having a doctor diagnose him with bone spurs.
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mrdominoe4 days ago
+4
"ThAnK yOu FoR yOuR sErViCe."
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mrarming4 days ago
+2
Good thing ICE is going after those hardened criminals.
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njman1004 days ago
+2
Hegseth and Trump 💩Hate Military Families
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Intrepid_Top_23004 days ago
+2
I’ve said it before I’ll say it again; f*** ICE. They need to be abolished and Stephen Miller deserves a noose!
ICE will forever be equated with the worst of Nazi behavior.
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anonskeptic54 days ago
+2
How is the military's morale uner Hegspeth and ICE?
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CelebrationFit85485 days ago
+6
That's what he's fighting for? Oh and to protect pedophiles...
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fcatw5 days ago
+7
Perfect. Just what they voted for.
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Uncanny_butte5 days ago
+3
Anyone enlisting after 2016 is unstable
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Deliciousbob5 days ago
+4
poor fool joined the army
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free_da_guys11075 days ago
+3
Military going to revolt and turn on pedo n chief 😂
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drevolut1on5 days ago
+16
If they were serious about upholding their oaths to the Constitution, they would have already arrested this treasonous president and his whole corrupt cabinet.
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BlueTengu5 days ago
+2
[ Removed by Listnook ]
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theremotebiz5 days ago
+2
This feels less like a communication failure and more like the predictable result of current policy. Enforcement has been expanded pretty aggressively, and with fewer “off-limits” spaces, situations like this were bound to happen sooner or later. Telling him to “keep her away” doesn’t really fix the bigger issue.
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tiny_chaotic_evil5 days ago
+3
*America is evil and not enough care to change it fast enough*
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