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macross1984 Apr 11, 2026 +154

Israel is probably the country that like to use "collateral" damage most liberally.

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Echo693 Apr 12, 2026 +82

Isn't it obvious that Israel sent it's most valuable military assets (pilots and their jets) to fly over 2,300 km just to hit a synagogue? /s, only because I know that people actually believe this laughable logic.

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WoodSage Apr 12, 2026 +27

I want you to find you in every thread where Russia hit a civilian target saying exactly this.

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qTp_Meteor Apr 12, 2026 +49

It isnt as dangerous or hard for russia to yoink missiles at ukraine as it is for israel to fly out there with jets. Thats the entire point

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try_another8 Apr 12, 2026 +30

So why do you think israel hit a synagogue?

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Throwaway5432154322 Apr 12, 2026 +27

Good luck getting anything remotely approaching a legitimate reply to this one

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PedanticPerson Apr 12, 2026 +8

Maybe they just got bored and felt like killing babies. Also the Jewish state is well known for hating Jews! /s

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grympy Apr 12, 2026 -24

This but unironically

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Cobrastrikenana Apr 12, 2026 -11

Hey so why did they hit a synagogue?

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PedanticPerson Apr 12, 2026 +10

They stated it was in the blast radius of Hezbollah target, which is also the only explanation that would make sense IMO

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Cobrastrikenana Apr 12, 2026 -8

So they just don’t care if they hit a synagogue?

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PedanticPerson Apr 12, 2026 +10

What do you expect them to do? Ignore any terrorists launching rockets near synagogues?

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TheColourOfHeartache Apr 12, 2026 -1

Russia has evil but rational motives for hitting Ukrainian civilians. I don't think it will work, but you can see what Russia's goals are and why they think targeting civilians reaches those goals. Israel has no rational motive to hit a synagogue in Iran.

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TheRealSplinter Apr 12, 2026 +9

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were classified as military targets by the US (due to military/industrial facilities in those cities)...that's a lot of collateral!

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odd_orange Apr 12, 2026 +16

Ah yes, the classic “but US did this thing unrelated almost 100 years ago” comment. Also they were targeted *because* of the large populations. They weren’t hiding the fact that their intent was to show the immediate destructive power and loss of life they could inflict. It’s different than calling everyone an anti semite then shrugging when you murder people in of the Jewish faith

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TheRealSplinter Apr 12, 2026 +3

While that was a big reason why Hiroshima was chosen, that is not what was said publicly. This is what Truman said: > *The world will note that the first atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, a military base. That was because we wished in this first attack to avoid, insofar as possible, the killing of civilians.* That's the only connection being made. Other than that, you're reading too deep into my comment and adding your own meaning to it (another classic listnook moment).

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odd_orange Apr 12, 2026 +2

Idk where you got that quote from. Here’s his statement on the bomb: “We are now prepared to obliterate more rapidly and completely every productive enterprise the Japanese have above ground in any city. We shall destroy their docks, their factories, and their communications. Let there be no mistake; we shall completely destroy Japan's power to make war. It was to spare the Japanese people from utter destruction that the ultimatum of July 26 was issued at Potsdam. Their leaders promptly rejected that ultimatum. If they do not now accept our terms they may expect a rain of ruin from the air, the like of which has never been seen on this earth. Behind this air attack will follow sea and land forces in such numbers and power as they have not yet seen and with the fighting skill of which they are already well aware” What are you saying other than “US did thing so this fine”? Really?

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TheRealSplinter Apr 12, 2026 +3

My quote is from his [radio address](https://speakola.com/political/harry-s-truman-radio-broadcast-1945), and it is not unaligned with your quote. Where did I say anything about it being OK? I'm just saying, "oh hey, the US has done this too!" which doesn't imply it is a good thing. This being "collateral" in quotes (from the top level comment) which I took to mean something along the lines of saying publicly they tried to avoid civilian casualties when in fact they didn't.

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defroach84 Apr 12, 2026 +13

On the flip side, countries like Iran just aim for civilian targets. And yes, everyone in this war are the bad guys.

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AntagonisticFetus Apr 11, 2026 +51

We call that a tactical whoopsie.

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3rd-party-intervener Apr 12, 2026 -15

It’s not . It was done on purpose. As long as they get their target they don’t care about what else gets impacted or killed.

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MegaLemonCola Apr 12, 2026 +31

Yeah, the Jewish state definitely deliberately bombed a Jewish place of worship because that makes perfect sense.

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3rd-party-intervener Apr 12, 2026 -29

You think they care? You never read the Hannibal directive?

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Opposite_Living_7927 Apr 12, 2026 +4

Hannibal directive is in case a soldier is getting taken hostage and its impossible to rescue them

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ThePickleConnoisseur Apr 12, 2026 +9

Persian Jewish are a historic ethnicity. There are hundreds of thousands of them in Iran. No this is not it

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AntagonisticFetus Apr 12, 2026 -19

Yes, I know. Israel has a very storied history of leveling entire city blocks to prosecute a target. I was being facetious.

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FirefighterLeft5425 Apr 11, 2026 -19

Terrorism!

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AntagonisticFetus Apr 11, 2026 +2

Ohhh, so edgy!

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-Average_Joe- Apr 12, 2026 +19

The pro move here would have been to claim that Iran bombed it using one of their Tomahawks.

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Popular_Muffin43 Apr 12, 2026 +8

GOP sold them in the 80s How do you think Ollie got his gold

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avidernis Apr 12, 2026 +3

The pro move is to tell the truth, which presumably is what the IDF did here.

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ZBlackmore Apr 11, 2026 -8

Israel is the only country in the world to ever hit stuff by mistake in wars. All other militaries have 100% perfect intelligence and perfectly guided munitions only.

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Objective_Chest_1697 Apr 11, 2026 +27

That's some great gaslighting and moral equivalency....

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soft_taco_special Apr 12, 2026 +23

What's the moral equivalent to mass public hangings in the street by crane?

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suamai Apr 12, 2026 -12

Killing over 150 in an elementary school? Not sure though, I left my war crimes moral condemnation conversion table at home

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soft_taco_special Apr 12, 2026 +25

A misidentified target is equivalent to hanging thousands of your own people including children in the streets and televising it? Get the f*** out of here.

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JD0x0 Apr 12, 2026 +30

Also, besides being unintentional and a mistake, wasn't that the US's missile that hit the school, not the IDF's?

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Rockmja Apr 12, 2026 -22

Uh all of Gaza would like a word with u

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apathetic_revolution Apr 12, 2026 +7

I'm sure Iran would misidentify targets too if most of their missiles didn't get shot down.

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mad-data Apr 12, 2026 +11

Not sure. To misidentify target you need to start with trying to identify military targets. Iran seem to target cities intentionally.

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mad-data Apr 12, 2026 +9

Funny how its always "Journalists" killed by IDF turn out to be Hamas or Hezbollah officers, hanging out with RPGs instead of Video camera.

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Aryeh98 Apr 12, 2026 +7

Zionism isn’t a slur.

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JD0x0 Apr 12, 2026 +11

People who don't know what it truly means certainly try to use it at one.

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soft_taco_special Apr 12, 2026 +10

Everything you accuse Israel of doing Iran is 1000X more guilty of. I have plenty of objections to how Israel conducts itself, but if you want to make it a competition and force me to pick a side the decision is easy.

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soft_taco_special Apr 12, 2026 +12

That would sting if I had even one iota of respect for you or anyone who carries water for Iran.

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Aryeh98 Apr 12, 2026 +9

It’s good if his Zionism is showing. Zionism isn’t a bad thing.

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FlyConfident6622 Apr 12, 2026 -3

So any time ICE and local PDs kill or wrongly incarcerate people randomly in America , youd ve ok with a foreign army invading to liberate Americans?

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soft_taco_special Apr 12, 2026 +4

How much lead must one ingest to concoct such an incomprehensibly dense hypothetical?

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PatientRoutine8291 Apr 12, 2026 +7

I too regularly make former military infrastructure currently next to military bases used to school small children. It only makes sense (to f****** terrorists)

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no_kids-and-3_money Apr 12, 2026 +3

Most countries put public schools on military bases. I live in the US and went to 3 of them without having a family member in the military.

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PatientRoutine8291 Apr 12, 2026 +5

The US doesnt regularly include civilians as human shields as part of their fighting strategy. I know, context is difficult.

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Consistent-Study-287 Apr 12, 2026 -7

Look at what buildings are around the Kirya and get back to me. Also, Israel treats police stations and checkpoints as valid military targets, and they have military checkpoints at the entrances of Palestinian schools... So.. yeah.

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PatientRoutine8291 Apr 12, 2026 +9

Israels enemies use civilian infrastructure and people as a shield. Thats not israels fault

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Consistent-Study-287 Apr 12, 2026 -12

Israel also uses civilian infrastructure and people as shields. Does that mean it's not Iran's fault if they kill an Israeli citizen. Because I think it is, but apparently you don't?

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PatientRoutine8291 Apr 12, 2026 +15

Ah yes, 10/7, the famous assault on military installations like a concert and kitchens. What a sad person you are Go ahead, tell the class why hamas openly targets israeli citizens. Its a convenient truth for me, but a very inconvenient truth for you. Same reason they only report casualties as 1 number, never specifying military losses vs civilian

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siraliases Apr 12, 2026 -13

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/11/18/hamas-had-not-planned-to-attack-israel-music-festival-israeli-report-says Here you go

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jacquesroland Apr 12, 2026 +11

The more you drill down into what leftists think how Israel should be allowed to defend itself, the more absurd it gets. It ultimately boils down to there’s nothing Israel can do that wouldn’t make a lefty unhappy. They expect Israel just to accept rocket attacks and knife attacks with shrugged shoulders at best and at worst make claims that every Israeli life is forfeit unless they vacate their country LOL.

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TuctDape Apr 11, 2026 +7

No one is saying that

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Impression-These Apr 11, 2026 +1

No, but the only country that there would be an army of people defending them after hitting a civilian target. There is no country that the world is more OK with them killing everyone they please than Israel.

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Pornfest Apr 12, 2026 +17

Literally watched an army of people on here defending Iran using cluster munitions…

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HigherandHigherDown Apr 11, 2026 +21

Historically many or even most casualties of war are civilians. It just happens in wars. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian\_casualty\_ratio](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio)

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Professional_Cat9647 Apr 12, 2026 -10

Remind me, who started this war?

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Throwaway5432154322 Apr 12, 2026 +12

The “axis of resistance”, back in 2023

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RezChi Apr 11, 2026 +19

Ehhhh have you seen the comments about Hezbollah attacks, or Hamas, or basically any other terrorist group that wants Jihad?

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Jalapenoplanter Apr 12, 2026 -6

the only close comparison to israel is terrorist groups?

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TheColourOfHeartache Apr 12, 2026 +4

Ukraine targets Russian civilan assets, e.g. the oil industry. I would defend that but i don't need to. Nobody criticises that.

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faffc260 Apr 11, 2026 +6

there are plenty, israel is however the only one in the "western sphere" I guess though, so they get all the attention.

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itspronouncedbolonya Apr 12, 2026 +1

Whys noone getting the obvious sarcasm on this?

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siraliases Apr 12, 2026 +1

Well, at least it can be admitted. Maybe they should buy some of this 100% perfect stuff, they seem to do a lotta whoopsies

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Unlucky_Accountant71 Apr 11, 2026 -20

People won't like it but that's a key difference between the IDF & the IRGC. IRGC hides their mistakes

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Professional_Cat9647 Apr 12, 2026 +9

Israel has killed more journalists than literally anyone. Taking pictures and sending them outside of the country is literally banned. IrGc hIdEs thEiR misTaKes gtfo

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Unlucky_Accountant71 Apr 12, 2026 -2

Doesn't count when it's Hamas journalists..those are just called terrorists

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Professional_Cat9647 Apr 12, 2026 -4

Are you delulu? Israel just labels anything they kill and destroy hamas.

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meninblck9 Apr 11, 2026 -15

We call that murder

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OwlBr33ze Apr 11, 2026 -4

In war? No

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PositiveUse Apr 12, 2026 +1

The only reason why it was important that Vance was at the Pakistan summit. Only guarantee that Israel wouldn’t have taken down the whole hotel with all the collateral damage to kill some targets (This is of course overly exaggerated)

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ruskyandrei Apr 11, 2026 -22

Don't think I know of any other country that is more ok with any form of "collateral damage". Russia technically, though I think when the Russians bomb civilians, they actually do it on purpose so can't call it collateral.

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HutSutRawlson Apr 12, 2026 +22

I don’t think I know of any countries that *aren’t* okay with it. Kind of seems odd to single Israel out here, literally every country that has engaged in war has caused collateral damage.

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interstat Apr 12, 2026 +6

? Isn't it every country

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1877KlownsForKids Apr 12, 2026 -11

So the IDF is antisemitic, right? Just making sure I'm applying the standards correctly here.

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DiggingforPoon Apr 11, 2026 -43

The literally are blowing up their own people to bomb Iran... Jesus the sickness.

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Odd-Row9485 Apr 11, 2026 +4

There can be more than one bad guy

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trigerhappi Apr 11, 2026 +6

Iran (Persians, Shia) don't see the other side as "their own" in that they're bombing majority Sunni Arab. It's like saying the English were killing their own (English, Protestant) at Agincourt (French, Catholic) in 1415.

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RaptorJesusDesu Apr 12, 2026 +7

Were the peaceful protesters mass murdered in Iran their own

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Luffy-in-my-cup Apr 11, 2026 +5

Israel isn’t a bad guy in this respect, they’re a small country surrounded by anti-semites that want to kill them. There’s less than 30m Jews worldwide and around 2b Muslims who believe they’re occupying Islamic lands. Israel would rather be hated and alive than loved and dead.

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Beautiful_Bag6707 Apr 12, 2026 +3

>There’s less than 30m Jews worldwide Far less. Try 15M

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Different_Height_157 Apr 12, 2026 -12

Sure Jan

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Ellusive1 Apr 12, 2026 +1

You mean hitting American bases in Arabic countries.

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Ellusive1 Apr 12, 2026

Retaliated after being attacked isn’t the same.

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gman757 Apr 12, 2026 -17

Nothing “collateral” about it.. Israel has a *HEAVILY* marked history of blatantly targeting Civillian buildings

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