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News & Current Events Apr 21, 2026 at 3:12 PM

IDF jails soldiers for damaging Jesus statue in Lebanon: 'Moral failure'

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IDF jails soldiers for damaging Jesus statue in Lebanon: 'Moral failure'
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IDF jails soldiers for damaging Jesus statue in Lebanon: 'Moral failure'
Six other troops failed to intervene or report the act; IDF says it replaced the statue with local coordination as outrage grew among Christian leaders and Netanyahu condemned the incident as unacceptable

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qTp_Meteor 1 day ago +747
>Six other troops failed to intervene or report the act; IDF says it replaced the statue with local coordination as outrage grew among Christian leaders and Netanyahu condemned the incident as unacceptable >The IDF said Tuesday that two soldiers involved in damaging a statue of Jesus in southern Lebanon have been removed from combat duty and sentenced to 30 days in military detention, following an incident that drew international criticism. >The case occurred in the Christian village of Debel, where a soldier was filmed smashing the statue while another soldier photographed the act. The image later circulated widely on social media. >According to an internal inquiry, six additional soldiers were present but did not intervene or report the incident. The findings concluded that the soldiers’ conduct “completely deviated” from IDF orders and values. >The commander of the 162nd Division, Brig. Gen. Sagiv Dahan, accepted the findings and disciplinary recommendations. The two soldiers directly involved were removed from combat roles and jailed, while the other troops have been summoned for clarification hearings, with further measures to be determined. >The IDF said it “deeply regrets” the incident and stressed that operations in Lebanon are directed against the Hezbollah terrorist organization and other terrorist groups, not civilians. It added that Northern Command coordinated with local residents to install a new statue, which was placed at the site on Tuesday. >The incident sparked anger among Christian leaders. The Latin Patriarchate in Jerusalem condemned the act, with spokesperson Farid Jubran describing it as “deeply offensive” and humiliating. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu also addressed the incident in English, saying he was “shocked and saddened” and condemning the act. >Military officials said procedures regarding conduct around religious sites and symbols had been reinforced and would be emphasized again following the incident. The findings were presented to the chief of the General Staff, who condemned the incident as unacceptable and a moral failure that contradicts IDF values. You can see pictures of the new statue placed by the idf in coordination with the towns locals
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EzekielYeager 1 day ago +404
> You can see pictures of the new statue placed by the idf in coordination with the towns locals False. I can't see anything on this page except for ads.
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qTp_Meteor 1 day ago +248
They did put an egregious amount of ads lol, here is a direct link to the new statue they put [link](https://ynet-pic1.yit.co.il/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto/picserver6/crop_images/2026/04/21/HJ69iWHpZx/HJ69iWHpZx_0_0_900_600_0_x-large.jpg)
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ExpertExpert 22 hr ago +80
why is a doctor on that t
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Forikorder 16 hr ago +4
thats a cross
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escof 14 hr ago +8
At some point the joke will hit and you'll have a good chuckle.
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EzekielYeager 1 day ago +36
Thank you!
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CaravelClerihew 19 hr ago +4
He looks like a loot crate reward
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JUYED-AWK-YACC 22 hr ago +16
It’s a shiny skinny Jesus, not the same kind at all! /fake outrage
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King_Esot3ric 14 hr ago +2
They replaced it with a 6” statue? Lmao
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KitchenFullOfCake 23 hr ago +76
Jesus rose after a 3 day commercial break.
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hotdirtywater 20 hr ago +19
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hoxxxxx 19 hr ago +5
whenever i have to use the computer at work i feel like i'm gonna have a seizure with all the bullshit that pops up i don't know how people put up with that c*** on their personal devices
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centizen24 15 hr ago +3
I don't get it either, but I constantly run into people who would rather just sit and get pelted with ads like they live in Idiocracy instead of putting even 5 minutes of effort into installing an ad blocker. I've given up on trying to convince anyone.
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SyntheticSweetener 1 day ago +238
Thirty days in military detention means the offenders seem to be getting off quite lightly.
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tagillaslover 1 day ago +784
It’s basically vandalism, a lot of vandalism charges don’t even carry jail time 
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Muffinlessandangry 1 day ago +171
It would be basic vandalism for anyone else, but soldiers on operations should be held to a higher standard as they represent the state and it's monopoly on violence. Can't speak for the IDF, but in the British army, purposefully destroying a religious icon while on operations in a foreign country would constitute a severe failure of the Service Test (did my actions or inactions adversely affect the operational capability of the British army), it would constitute a breach of the Values of the British army (Respect for Others specifically, Discipline potentially)and a breach of the Standards of the British army (Lawful I assume, and Professional definitely). I'd expect 30 days prison as that's the most a CO can give before it goes to higher authority, and then either demotion or straight up dismissal from the army because what kind of f****** idiot does this, in a war zone, in front of cameras.
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omniuni 1 day ago +72
They were dismissed.
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GuildLancer 1 day ago +55
This doesn’t seem true? The BBC reports that they were removed from combat duty and given 30 days detention but not dismissed from military service. This makes sense because military service is mandatory in Israel, if you could get out of it by just breaking a law and getting a month long punishment then I assume many more people would be doing that.
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omniuni 1 day ago +89
Times of Israel reports that both the solider and photographer have been dismissed. Due to mandatory service, they may be assigned some other government job, but they will not be involved in further combat operations, because I think you're correct, they don't just get away with it. It will probably be miserable for them. Good. Personally, I'm hoping for janitor.
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GuildLancer 1 day ago +19
I wonder if this is a miscommunication then and Israel has a different idea of what dismissal means, a dismissal is (effectively) dishonorable discharge. They are dismissed from the military. They aren’t in combat operations but that isn’t typically considered dismissal from what I understand. I do know that Israeli prisons (even for IDF soldiers) is brutal, like still water and sleeping on a concrete floor type shit. While I do think the guy deserves to be punished, I dont exactly jive with Israel’s treatment of prisoners generally be the IDF or Palestinian. Not like I can say my country (America) is all that much better tho, but I’m also against our prison systems broadly too.
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ragnaroksunset 23 hr ago +52
Your idea of dismissal is grounded in a volunteer armed service. Israeli service is mandatory. There is a sense in which discharge from mandatory service could fail to be received as the punishment it may have been intended. That time still belongs to the government - it will just be used in a less glorious fashion. No doubt that is a dishonour that will still follow these people after they leave the service.
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141_1337 22 hr ago +6
Here is hoping they get janitor at a jail or something.
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AllSystemsNominal_ 1 day ago +20
Yes, dumbass, that's why he's going to jail for 30 days.
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unfinishedtoast3 1 day ago +51
It isn't vadalism under Israeli law, it's a felony that falls under Section 170 of the Israeli Penal Code "its a crime to destroy, damage, or defile a place of worship, religious imagery, or any object held sacred by a group of persons with the intention of insulting their religion. This is punishable by up to three years in prison." 30 days is an insult even to Israeli law. The standard sentence for destruction of Jewish religious icons or property is 18 months
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i_should_be_coding 1 day ago +17
This isn't Israeli law though, it's military law, as it happened outside Israeli territory. It's a ridiculously short sentence, and I think everyone understands that nothing would have happened if it wasn't documented and publicized all over the world.
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Muffinlessandangry 23 hr ago +16
Not sure how it works in the IDF, but in the British army you are subject to English (Scotland and Northern Ireland have different) law anywhere in the world while you're on duty.
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BANKSLAVE01 1 day ago +18
HATE CRIME, you say?
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philly_jake 1 day ago +17
Vandalism against religious iconography by a military force during an invasion is not just vandalism. It's actually a war crime.
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DigitaIBlack 1 day ago +2
Iirc that's technically a freaking war crime. You can't just go destroying shit in a warzone if there no military purpose
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rammux74 23 hr ago +4
Everything is a war crime if you try hard enough
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Duffelson 1 day ago +60
I dont know how Israeli military does things, but in French military, 30 days of prison is basically death sentence for your military career. 
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codkaoc 1 day ago +123
What do you think an appropriate punishment should be?
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jumpmanzero 1 day ago +28
One day blinding stew.
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bagelwholedonutwhole 1 day ago +45
Thirty lashes and no dessert for one week!
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nondescriptun 1 day ago +91
30 days in military detention for unnecessary destruction/vandalism of personal property (even religious property) isn't light. That would be unlikely to get any detention in the US and much of the rest of the world.
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NobodyLikedThat1 1 day ago +61
On the one hand it was basically property damage. On the other hand this actively harms there war effort.
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Tybalt941 1 day ago +70
Yep. If I smash an equivalently valued item that belongs to my neighbor I will likely be charged with a second-degree misdemeanor, bumped up to first-degree if religious bias is proven. Even in that case jail time is very unlikely for a first offense. I'd say this punishment seems reasonable.
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SamsonFox2 1 day ago +11
It would be a hate crime in Canada, though.
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AggressivePack5307 1 day ago +3
Crime in Canada means nada...
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SyntheticSweetener 1 day ago +7
No, it wasn't. under international law, this is closer to a war crime than property damage. The relevant framework is the 1954 Hague Convention for the Protection of Cultural Property in the Event of Armed Conflict, plus Article 53 of Additional Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions and Article 16 of Additional Protocol II. A soldier in uniform, in an occupied village, smashing a religious symbol belonging to civilians his army is supposed to be protecting (with zero military purpose). An Israeli tank leveled a Saint George statue in Yaroun last year. In 2024, soldiers filmed themselves staging a mock wedding inside a church in Deir Mimas and trashed the place. This case? It was handled as internal discipline by a division commander (Brig. Gen. Dahan), not a court-martial. That means that the IDF chose the lighter of two tracks despite international outrage and directed attention to this, which was not an isolated incident. [Here is an excellent read from Times of Israel](https://www.timesofisrael.com/destruction-of-jesus-statue-should-serve-as-moral-wake-up-call-for-idf-israel/)
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IDontCare2626 1 day ago +46
I love when people talk about "international law" like it actually matters to anything
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Money_Do_2 1 day ago +3
Yup. Its the DonRoe era. This stuff stands to tear down international law faster than reign in its primary offenders. Which i guess is fine, international law was just a myth used to punish periphery states while the superpowers blatantly flaunt it, mostly the west. Right wingers dont realize theyre burning down a powerful tool they once wielded.
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NobodyLikedThat1 1 day ago +37
I suppose it's a matter of perspective for me. This isn't the Hagia Sophia. It looks like just a regular crucifix that is easily replaced. And as a Christian we aren't really supposed to hold icons in any particular regard. They're just symbols, other than that it's just a block of wood
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MJIsaac 19 hr ago +2
It's not about the material item, and if you're genuinely considering perspectives that should be obvious. It's about the symbolism, the outright hostility and contempt being shown for the local country and culture. It's about making a statement of dominance and superiority over the people of the country that they've invaded. And this is absolutely the perspective that should be adopted in regards to Israeli soldiers destroying a statue of Christ in a christian community they've occupied.
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Better_Cauliflower63 1 day ago +4
Well it depends on your denomination. I used to live around Russian Orthodox... and they hold their icons very seriously... To the point that there are particular icons that are have significant importance. I would assume Catholics believe in similar things, considering how much they are attached to various relics.
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Balsty 23 hr ago +9
Idolatry is pretty much forbidden in any Abrahamic religion. The only thing that comes close is maybe the pieces of the true cross.
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Lowfi-Concert 1 day ago +17
I mean it’s not a historical monument or anything. It’s closer to something you buy at home goods.
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soldiernerd 23 hr ago +3
I mean that seems like a pretty serious sentence
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09f3jns 1 day ago +29
So this is the straw that broke the camel's back. Damaging a statue.
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boilingfrogsinpants 1 day ago +60
Because the ones caring about Christianity are the Evangelicals in America, who are also the ones who push for support for Israel. America wasn't about to end support for Israel off of the murdering of civilians, but purposefully defamation of their deity might make Evangelicals question whether they should support Israel.
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khamike 1 day ago +21
Yep. I guarantee no one would care if this was a Muslim statue (or other religious icon since muslims don't really do statues). Or rather it almost certainly has happened many times with muslim places of worship and it wasn't even reported on.
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Overall_Curve6725 22 hr ago +2080
That’s where they draw the line on moral failure?
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GuzzlinGuinness 21 hr ago +1449
It’s because it makes the American conservative base mad. That’s the only reason they took action
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chimneydecision 21 hr ago +403
Only Trump gets to defile Christianity!
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LongBongJohnSilver 18 hr ago +51
Well by his own recent admission he's not a Christian... Which must mean he's Jewish... Which means he's Jesus! aaand we're back!
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Dry_Pineapple_4486 14 hr ago +19
Praise be to Allah! Thank you for your attention to to this matter!
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Mercurial891 20 hr ago +59
Yuck, you just know the Evangelicals will swoon over Israel regarding them as someone important. Meanwhile, the rest of the planet views them as a disease.
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Pato_Lucas 21 hr ago +18
Can't lose their best ally.
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FootjobBlowjobCombo 21 hr ago +187
Oh you are about to meet so many 3 month old accounts buddy lmao
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hypnosquid 19 hr ago +71
It's kindof amazing. I posted something similar about the moral failure of Netanyahu funding hamas - which is completely true - and there were attempts to hack my account, insane comments, and ultimately my post was removed.
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ButterscotchOk5339 13 hr ago +19
I just said that war crimes are bad regardless of who does it and went -5 in under a minute. Bots are swarming in some threads here.
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qwertyalguien 21 hr ago +42
It's not about what was done, but to whom
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francis2559 21 hr ago +34
I mean, they bombed a synagogue in Iran, right? You’d think that would worse by those standards. I think they’re simply in trouble because Israel wants to keep getting right wing Christian support and this kind of direct insult is one of the few things that threaten a MAGA viewer.
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izlude7027 22 hr ago +25
Somewhere past the border of their own nation, apparently.
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AnAncientBog 18 hr ago +28
They don't want Western media to start letting people know that Lebanon is like half Christian.
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O5NR 16 hr ago +2
Not anymore
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Abject_Elevator5461 21 hr ago +40
No they draw the line when they get photographed doing it.
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pewpewhadouken 19 hr ago +13
only if it is something that would threaten american support. kill a kid and plant a rock, no issue. kill some reporters, meh. help some settlers harass and evict Palestinians, no problem!
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KP_Wrath 17 hr ago +2
Unleash your family wreath monster on some poor woman? Totally fine.
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poulan9 21 hr ago +12
There's hundreds of instances of soldiers making poor decisions and breaking engagement rules in the theatre of war from every nation on earth. What separates legitimate and poorly governed states is having due process and independent martial courts where real consequences exist. Israel has formal and independent MAG (Military police criminal investigation board) and the Supreme Court. Next tier has a less robust process such as the Iranian and Saudi systems due to strong influence from political and religious bodies and figures. Hezbollah and Hamas have no real process with any integrity for anything like this, only for breaking orders. It's just another level and not comparable. The decisions are leadership controlled with little transparency. They have courts but they're not independent. They are to give the illusion of independence but little more.
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patchgrabber 21 hr ago +50
Israel's 'formal and independent' system rarely punishes troops for their egregious behaviour. Often they get in trouble for being caught, not because they actually did it.
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advance512 17 hr ago +14
> "They get in trouble for being caught" Is it common for non Israeli soldier to be punished for crimes they were not caught doing? Seriously asking. Would appreciate some links to understand this claim, and how it is different from Israel.
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jreed12 12 hr ago +8
I think its more "They get in trouble for being publically caught." When their leadership catches them out they tend to just bury it unless it becomes public knowledge, then its hit or miss if they defend them or not. Like that incidence where they blew up an ambulance full of aid workers then buried it. You telling me nobody in the command structure knew that happened?
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Agasthenes 13 hr ago +3
Exactly this. Every time you hear about and idf soldier doing some stupid shit, you hear about jail time or other context that suddenly it doesn't seem so stupid.
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FoulMoodeternal 21 hr ago +14
Well given the pervasive war crimes and crimes against humanity IDF and Israeli police commit daily, it can hardly be said Israel has that either
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munoodle 18 hr ago +3
Lmfao, Israel is absolutely ENTIRELY corrupt when it comes to disciplining the terrorists in the IDF. Worst punishment they’ve ever doled out is a gentle slap on the wrist for cold-blooded murder
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trydola 21 hr ago +7
don't worry, israelis will do a riot and break these people out from "jail"
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Particular_Bug0 21 hr ago +3
As long as you don't get caught on camera.
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Foreign-Chocolate86 17 hr ago +1
Yeah amazing how quickly this was investigated and punishment meted out compared to things like killing children in cold blood, raping prisoners, etc. Bibi knows he needs the evangelicals onside. 
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Xerkzeez 18 hr ago +1
The most immoral terrorist army right now is Israel.
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Philo_Publius1776 1 day ago +617
I'm really sick of people killing people over religion.
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Slide-Maleficent 1 day ago +128
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
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Wompatuckrule 1 day ago +29
Sail tonight for Singapore!
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grower_thrower 1 day ago +13
Don’t fall asleep while you’re ashore!
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DarkLordoftheSmiths 23 hr ago +3
M’aiq, is that you? “M’aiq once lost his sweetroll. Oh well, perhaps he shall find another one.”
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Jack071 1 day ago +33
Why only religion? We need to stop killings alltogether
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Pato_Lucas 21 hr ago +12
IDK man, first, there's the Epstein list. And I would add the people who just abandon an online game just because the team doesn't play the way they like.
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tempestwolf1 22 hr ago +3
But then how can they prove their imaginary man in the sky is more peaceful than the others'?
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ADP_God 1 day ago +36
It’s not really a religious conflict at this point though…
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Punch_A_Police_Horse 1 day ago +2
People would still find other reasons. Granted it would be less convenient.
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DarkLordoftheSmiths 23 hr ago +2
Over a piece of plaster and pictures
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Sour_Patch_Drips 1 day ago +613
Apparently the moral line is drawn at the crucifixion of a statue of Jesus
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Slide-Maleficent 1 day ago +397
More like Netanyahu politically needs foreign Christians who know nothing about Israel besides what they read on the internet. Israel has made a career out of pissing off literally everyone in the circle of human nations except **one**. We all know the country I'm talking about, but it isn't really *America* that Netanyahu and the Israeli far-right Jewish nationalists need to keep control of the USA - it's the cabal of Evangelical Protestants who use their money and influence to exert it's power. The accelerationist charlatans who control *them* believe that fighting Islam - particularly alongside Israel - advances Biblical prophecy and forces Jesus to come back. The Israeli nationalists don't share these beliefs or particularly respect them (as the picture shows) but they do *need* them. Israel is good at fighting, but none of their victories would have happened without the free access they have to American technology. These men aren't being punished for desecrating a statue of Jesus; They are being punished for having a picture of them doing it show up online.
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God_slut 1 day ago +70
The Christians United for Israel **(CUFI)** is the largest evangelical Christian pro-Israel lobby group in the US and is significantly larger than AIPAC. They do grass roots mobilizations and routinely travel to Israel to witness the alleged Armaggedon battlefield at Tel Megiddo.
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Ok-Cartoonist7931 23 hr ago +18
Anyone really believing in "Jesus coming back" and "doing something to accelerate it" in 2026... How obvious can it be that none of it will happen :D..
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Slide-Maleficent 23 hr ago +14
Everyone needs a reason to get out of bed in the morning - and if you're going to be doing your best it had better be an interesting reason. Never underestimate the power of believing you are a key part of something much greater than yourself. To some degree, it barely matters what the idea is - so long as it is culturally powerful enough to make people sacrifice for you. Truth or even expectation was never *really* the point
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vhalember 23 hr ago +6
I'd look at it from a more logical perspective. If you are accelerating the demise of the world - Jesus isn't taking you back to heaven with him. But Christian Nationalists aren't logical, nor do they support Christian moral values.... so here we are.
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sprunghuntR3Dux 21 hr ago +7
Certain Christian groups don’t believe that “good works” get you into heaven. They believe that “true believers” go to heaven. It’s one of the major differences between Catholics and other churches.
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lollipop999 1 day ago +12
I mean, he was a Jew
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nexusSigma 1 day ago +4
Because allowing this kind of behaviour is toxic to their already awful reputation in the west, which they are ultimately still reliant on for various things. I doubt they actually care, PR aside
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OriginalTangle 1 day ago -9
Jesus > kids in Gaza - apparently
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Wayelder 1 day ago +195
You know christ would say 'don't care about my statue, stop killing the innocents." (PS thx ...appreciated the award.)
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MWalshicus 22 hr ago +65
PR failure more like.
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NaNaNa_PooPoo 22 hr ago +27
Slaughtering children is OK according to IDF standards. But destroying the statue of a god worshipped by the people who bankroll and protect them is apparently a red line. It doesn't take a genius to see the ridiculousness of this all.
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HatCat5566 1 day ago +168
Good stuff. The IDF needs to lock down on their crazies. Whether they want to admit it or not, when they require hard right religious zealots to serve, some of them are going to do zealot shit. Make an example of them. I personally think 30 days is too light if he gets to keep his job, but i also dont think he should be jailed for longer periods of time.
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abominare 1 day ago +99
Israel has compulsive service for their population.  This is the kind of problem that comes up the less professional your military is. People who often would self select out or would have been kicked out more easily in a volunteer service. That isn't to say that volunteer armies are perfect but theyre generally less prone. Their most conservative groups fight the most to stay out of conscription. 
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HatCat5566 1 day ago +9
I can see that. I also think that the kind of person who self selects for military service can be a certain way though. Kind of how police in the US have huge overlapping statistics around spousal abuse etc even before they join. Being in the army and carrying weapons of war does appeal to a certain type of person - not always - but sometimes. Of the 10 people my age group that i know personally that have served, 7ish of them were absolute chuds in school.
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OmNomSandvich 19 hr ago +2
the U.S. military starts barrel-scraping when the economy is good or they are at war (see: height of Iraq/Afghanistan). Any military reflects the society and that is doubly true for conscript armies although it remains true for volunteer ones.
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MachineDog90 20 hr ago +3
Isreal compulsive military service is in a interesting dynamic right now with there population demographics situation primarly involving Haredim.
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yonathan1234 23 hr ago +12
Since Israel has mandatory conscription, and the 162nd division consists of mostly non-reserevists, he is probably in mandatory service. In mandatory service it's not really a job, the salary is very low. I hope after the 30 days he will be moved to a non-combat role.
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PM_ME_CUTE_SMILES_ 1 day ago +38
> The IDF needs to lock down on their crazies Do you mean Netanyahu? Seriously, destroying a statue is so uninmportant comparing to the mass war crimes in the region. Over 1 million displaced in Lebanon and the medias talk about a statue.
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seenitreddit90s 22 hr ago +4
This is just damage control because the US cares more about a statue of Jesus than 10s of thousands of innocent civilians lives and millions of innocent civilians homes.
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agaloch2314 1 day ago +26
Yeah can’t have them disrespecting statues; they should stick to r***, murder and torture of real people, right?
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Fuzzy_Donl0p 1 day ago +13
american chritians and politicians don’t care about that other stuff so yeah
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DadOfFan 18 hr ago +4
So for you the line you can't cross is damaging a statue, which by the way is against gods laws. However shooting children in the head is a-ok?
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Stevil4583LBC 23 hr ago +136
Murder kids all you want just don’t touch the dead guy statue.
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NaNaNa_PooPoo 22 hr ago +18
Can't bite the hand that feeds you.
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reader4567890 23 hr ago +41
How about they jail IDF soldiers (and settlers) for murdering civilians instead?
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Cord1083 23 hr ago +10
Quite right. A couple of days investigation and the soldiers are found guilty of damaging a statue. Has anyone been convicted of murdering Palestinians ? Has there even been any serious investigations ?
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goinupthegranby 20 hr ago +3
Because conservatives care more about statues than they do about human lives
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Klaus_Winchester 21 hr ago +3
That’s crazy they jailed the guy for destroying the statue. But didn’t jail the ones who raped the prisoners or killed the American journalists or thousand of child killers
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knockinonevansdoor 23 hr ago +31
Outrage over a statue but kill children….. crickets.
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jVCrm68 1 day ago +47
Destroy a statue go to jail, shoot children, here’s more ammo.
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Troyabedinthemornin 1 day ago +47
If only they had raped someone, then they could be free right now
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alucohunter 23 hr ago +9
Sorry, that job was outsourced to dogs.
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Troyabedinthemornin 23 hr ago +7
This world is a nightmare.
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Paraparo 1 day ago +256
It's interesting to see the response. When this first came out, there was a mass of "they won't even punish him" posts. Dismissive of the possibility of any consequences being levied internally. The guys been jailed, and will likely face punishment, and the goal posts move. Now, "if this, why not X, Y, Z" or whatever the newest deflection is. If nothing is ever enough, if no gesture can be taken in good faith and worked with, well... Don't be surprised the kind of environment that creates.
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ClassEastern1238 1 day ago +400
They dismissed charges last month against those IDF soldiers who raped a restrained detainee with a knife. Let’s at least wait a few days to see if right wing Israelis invade a secure IDF facility to force a release for these soldiers like they did for the rapists.
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CityRulesFootball 1 day ago +70
And celebrated with far right leaders and invited by them.
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OkAstronaut4911 1 day ago +200
How do you know you are talking about the same people? This is the internet. Millions of people comment here.
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HappiestIguana 1 day ago +48
Yup, prime goomba fallacy
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Boozdeuvash 13 hr ago +2
I hope that's the official name for that fallacy!
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wrghf 1 day ago +50
I think it’s because there’s a very long history of IDF troops getting up to some pretty heinous shit, and facing absolutely no consequences whatsoever. If anything I’d say this is definitely on the less severe side and yet it has still attracted a custodial punishment for the solider involved. IMO that’s why people are surprised in this particular case.
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gdvs 1 day ago +133
We're just a bit stunned how damaging a statue is considered worse than raping Palestinian prisoners.
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ArawynD 1 day ago +64
Or assassinating Shireen Abuakleh, a christian US citizen.
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JackieHands 1 day ago +40
Or running over a an American girl with a tractor and then throwing a "pancake party" about it afterward. Edit: it's honestly sad that 25% of viewers are down voting this. You can go look up the pictures. The IDF might've killed her on accident but I really need the defenders here to explain how condemning people celebrating her death is in fact bad.
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fZAqSD 1 day ago +11
Or fighting a generations-long war for ethnic cleansing
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AntagonisticFetus 1 day ago +111
I mean when you level entire city blocks to prosecute targets then yeah, this shit seems a little small time for the IDF to take seriously.
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wswordsmen 1 day ago +53
It makes Christians in America mad. They need to keep the religious right on side. Punish those hurting Christian symbols and that catch the eye of the US evangelicals keeps Israel's blank check to kill Muslims while Trump is in office.
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ADP_God 1 day ago -11
Blowing up terror tunnels under city blocks is an operational necessity. What this guy did is just vandalism.
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Night-Reaper17 1 day ago +20
What about the soldiers who raped that Palestinian prisoner? Those charges were dropped.
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CFOMaterial 1 day ago +6
Because the prosecutor screwed up the case really badly. Like leaking video to the media, that was altered, then fleeing when she realized she was under investigation and trying to destroy evidence. The same thing would happen in the US is a prosecutor screwed up so badly.
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Solace_of_the_Thorns 17 hr ago +3
This isn't even goalpost-moving, let alone a Goomba fallacy. You can expect no consequences while also hoping for more severe ones. "I don't expect X thing to happen" and "I think Y thing should happen" are perfectly compatible.
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MarlinFF 1 day ago +51
I also saw a wave of misinformation saying it was old from years ago too.
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SuperVaderMinion 1 day ago +19
Okay, well I didn't say that, I couldn't even muster the effort to care about U.S soldiers who burned Quran's. Killing children is way worse, and Israeli's will never be punished for that.
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Krednaught 1 day ago +13
Lesson learned: "don't post photos of defiling Christian imagery from the rubble of the towns you have been blowing up and killing thousands"...
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Nervous-Cockroach541 1 day ago +16
You're committing the goomba fallacy.
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Tybalt941 1 day ago +8
What do you mean likely face punishment? If they're already jailed, then they are being punished.
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SamsonFox2 1 day ago +7
I'm still pretty certain that the end result of punishment would be pretty light. We'll see in a few years.
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fudgemental 1 day ago +6
Of course they were going to punish him. He hurt their bottom line, their support from Christian Evangelicals. That was a Jesus statue, not a medic or a journalist. Those are fair game.
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TheWhiteManticore 1 day ago +3
Because listnook and other social media platforms are entirely infested with bot accounts aimed for social engineering
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Entire-Shift7514 1 day ago +2
Because we know how it works? They will let them out in no time
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___AirBuddDwyer___ 1 day ago
I think Israel could probably respond to that by stopping the systemic r*** of prisoners. Like, yes, it’s good they punished someone for this. It’s still bad that there were pro-r*** riots
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SidewaysFancyPrance 1 day ago +3
Right, it got lots of attention and discussion, so there were consequences applied and statements made. The US military acts the same way and prefers to quietly cover stuff up when they can but will make statements and take action when pressed,. None of this undoes any of the atrocities that don't get enough international news for not being against Christians. It's designed to make us forget them, in fact.
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Several-Music9151 1 day ago +12
Israel knows who butters its bread. USA is majority Christian. Turn off enough voters and even the PAC money won’t be enough to keep the USA at its beck and call.
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Gorthebon 1 day ago +4
USA is 'Christian' only in name. Very unchristlike.
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Justryan95 1 day ago +31
Cant piss off the American White Supremacist Christian Nationalists that you fooled into doing your bidding.
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soulstryker66 9 hr ago +2
Only if that were the extent of their barbarism.
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homebrew_1 8 hr ago +1
Is this the was on Christmas that magadonians keep talking about?
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dionpadilla1 8 hr ago +1
*Messing with their funding
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HeatWaveToTheCrowd 1 day ago +10
Only punished because there's a photo. Also, haven't they burned/destroyed mosques with zero repercussions.
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Xeropoint 22 hr ago +8
But raping a prisoner to death is justified by them.... F****** IDF.
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Rational_Engineer_84 20 hr ago +3
The moral failure was getting filmed doing it, and that's why they're in jail. Killing kids doesn't ruffle the evangelical feathers that pay for Israeli war crimes, but smashing a Jesus statue...best to not take chances.
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psycho_driver 1 day ago +7
Ha. Moral failure, as if they care. More like PR disaster.
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B0llywoodBulkBogan 13 hr ago +5
So raping prisoners = good being photographed destroying a statue = bad
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Dull-Entertainer6967 1 day ago +9
They're only mad he got caught.
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Aromatic-Designer709 1 day ago -5
Exactly. Understand that hes not being punished for destroying a crucifix. Hes punished for his bad PR
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xxforrealforlifexx 1 day ago +6
Israel has destroyed many Christian churches whats the difference pretty sure there were statues of Jesus in those churches
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IntentionFalse8822 1 day ago +17
Yes. But these soldiers are really being punished for being filmed doing it.
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xxforrealforlifexx 23 hr ago +4
In November 2024, Israeli forces reportedly used explosives to blow up the 2,000-year-old Shrine of Shimon al-Safa (also known as the Shrine of Saint Peter) in the village of Shama, southern Lebanon. The site, sacred to both Christians and Shia Muslims, was part of a UNESCO-protected area.
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thesolidsnake 1 day ago +3
Because they got caught doing it. It’s why they like to kill journalists. If there had been no camera it would just be status quo.
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goinupthegranby 20 hr ago +3
Pretty standard right wing stuff really, completely fine watching non white children and families be brutalized and slaughtered but as soon as someone damages a statue that's what they take offense to.
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sbahog 1 day ago -3
As opposed to the Palestinians who name schools after terrorists and reward their families
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CityRulesFootball 1 day ago +22
Let me remind you of Ben Gvir drinking alcohol after passing laws making it easier to hang Palestinians and also the IDF rapists who had their charges dropped after clear evidence and the spectrum of Israel celebrating them as some martyrs.
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fZAqSD 1 day ago +29
Lmao yeah Israel totally doesn't also do those things
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DocPsychosis 1 day ago +18
Oh please, let's not sugar-coat the IDF. The only reason anyone is facing consequences here is because they are afraid of getting on the bad side of their US base, evangelical conservatives. Israeli soldiers routinely target and kill civilians including journalists and the investigations magically go nowhere.
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___AirBuddDwyer___ 1 day ago -3
Your thoughts on the IDF’s tendency to r*** prisoners?
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Spiritual-Pear-1349 23 hr ago +1
...So they punish statue destruction with 30 days in prison, but not raping prisoners with dogs? What an evil regime. They only did anything at all because they rely on the Christians to supply them weapons
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ddiggler2469 1 day ago +3
>IDF jails soldiers for *getting caught* damaging Jesus statue in Lebanon
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BoringEntropist 22 hr ago +2
Such incidents doesn't help Israel's larger goal of dismantling Hezbollah. There are a bunch of different religious communities living in Lebanon that hadn't always the best relationship with each other. But the aggressive tactics of Israel has given them a common enemy they can unify against. For example Meronite and Sunni villages have been pressured by Israel to stop harboring Shiite refugees. At first this makes sense since Hezbollah draws their support from the Shiite population. The thinking is: No Shiites means no Hezbollah. But once they start punish the other groups who want to help their fellow Lebanese, most of which are civilians by the way, they also anger the groups that could have been potential allies against Hezbollah. So, by desecrating religious symbols you piss off the Christian Lebanese even more. They might not like Hezbollah, by they might to start to like Israel even less.
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AlisaofallTimes 11 hr ago +2
This is very good. The IDF is accountable when its soldiers commit actual crimes. Best military ever!
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ruskyandrei 1 day ago
Lol "damaging". Title made me think they accidentally hit it with something while fighting. Nope, guy literally taking it down with a sledgehammer.
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Impressive_Lunch9110 21 hr ago +3
knew something like this would happen, can't make the sponsors mad. I still give it a week max before they're released at best.
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stockywocket 1 day ago +1
Give any large group, anywhere, of 18-25 year olds guns and military power and you’re going to get x number of incidents of poor judgment and misconduct. Literally anywhere. If you’re inclined to view this as something more than that, you should look inside yourself and question what might be motivating that inclination. 
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infinitay_ 23 hr ago +1
> The findings concluded that the soldiers’ conduct “completely deviated” from IDF orders and values. All I'm getting from this is to leave Christianity alone and focus on Islam.
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Jimbo415650 22 hr ago +3
After the controversy dies down then what happens to the jailed soldiers?
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BugCold6787 1 day ago +3
Unfortunately I think its pretty clear the government is so upset only because of their largest backer being filled with Christian nationalists right now. If this was as Islamic statue of any sort I doubt they would get anything more than a slap on the wrist for the press.
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