Using a school for military purposes is a war crime
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TonyAbbottsNipples2 days ago
+329
You should let them know so they can correct their mistake.
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DisastrousIncident752 days ago
+61
File a complaint at hezbollah.org **;-)**
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Weary_Position_95912 days ago
+7
Have you tried talking to their HR?
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Primary-Debate-5492 days ago
+4
Just thought I'd refer you to their mail address: hezbollah\_hr@un.org.
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Gravelayer2 days ago
+188
Welcome to most strategies in the middle east.....
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MattC19772 days ago
+8
You should tell the UN.
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FriendlyJewThrowaway2 days ago
+140
You sure? Half the world seems to think it grants diplomatic immunity to your weapons stash.
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poulan92 days ago
+80
That's what I read all the time on Listnook. Or that it simply was purely a school with kids and books.
Similar story with "hospitals".
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DisastrousIncident752 days ago
+29
No, it's for teaching the kids about weapons, to prepare them for a lucrative career.
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WUPHF_Cola2 days ago
+27
As a US Marine I spent several months in Iraq living and planning operations out of a school building.
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Consistent_Horse65292 days ago
+28
Commandeering an abandoned building is pretty typical in war. The issue arrises if you continue to allow children to attend the school while stationing troops and supplies there. Ukraine has used abandoned school buildings as barracks. It’s not an issue because they aren’t having children attend classes at the same time. This isn’t a new phenomenon and has been done since before the advent of long range artillery and aerial bombardment. Hospital ships have been converted into floating barracks, they have to repaint them so they are not hospital-ship white but once you do that it’s not an issue anymore.
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WUPHF_Cola2 days ago
+20
Agreed. The article, nor other sources indicate the building was still being used as a school. If there are reputable sources that indicate that, please share.
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TheMedRat2 days ago
+62
Listnook will still tell you that IDF’s only purpose is to exterminate brown children lol
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sweetempoweredchickn1 day ago
+3
Most people are uncomfortable with shades of grey. There has to be a purely good and an entirely evil side to put our anxious brains to rest. Leaving us detached from reality which just has many different morally complicated factions.
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Own_Worldliness_92972 days ago
+13
Listnook is the only place where "western" people hate "western" people and side with others.
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TheMedRat2 days ago
+13
It’s the stupid martyr mentality. They benefit from living in the west and rather than be thankful for that privilege, they pretend they hate it. Then you throw in some lowkey racism labeling everyone else as poor and oppressed in need of the support and sympathy of random Listnookors who have never done a thing to actually help those groups. They put on this farce of apologizing for their own existence but none of them ever actually leave or do any good. They just want to feel better about their decision to continue enjoying the indirect benefit from the oppression they pretend to fight.
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Own_Worldliness_92972 days ago
+3
100% this. idk where this line of thinking came from but its actually pathetic. It is those people that give rise to MAGA.
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[deleted]2 days ago
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DisastrousIncident752 days ago
+20
Not just any brown kids, but poor oppressed and starved refugee adjacent kids
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James-W-Tate3 days ago
+31
Not a war crime, it just means the building loses its protected status.
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Sherwoodlg2 days ago
+86
Purfidy is a war crime under the Geneva convention, additional protocol 1, article 37.
It is illegal to fane protective status by embedding military assets inside civilian infrastructure.
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invisible322 days ago
+12
feign
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Sherwoodlg2 days ago
+4
Thanks 👍
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Jwanito2 days ago
+16
We all know war crimes only matter if you lose a war
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invisible322 days ago
+2
More true than it should be.
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invisible322 days ago
+45
It is a war crime, specifically perfidy, and as a result the school loses its protected status.
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enigmaticowl2 days ago
+12
It’s literally both, for that exact reason.
It’s literally considered perfidy (under IHL) to abuse protective status in this manner, the same way that feigning surrender or falsely using UN/Red Cross emblems in furtherance of your military objectives is.
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MisterPistacchio2 days ago
+39
But if they stash weapons there and still have kids continue to attend?
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James-W-Tate2 days ago
+86
>But if they stash weapons there
The building, like a school, hospital, etc, loses its protected status.
>and still have kids continue to attend?
That's the deterrent against hitting the building with a missile. Those people are practically human shields.
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invisible322 days ago
+64
Human shields is *also* a war crime.
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enigmaticowl2 days ago
+21
Yes, which is why perfidy *is* a war crime under IHL.
Deception can be lawful in war (like decoys, camouflage, etc.), but *specifically abusing protective status* (such as feigning surrender or storing weapons in ambulances or civilian schools) in order to further your military objective’s against your enemy is absolutely a war crime.
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Lord_Blakeney2 days ago
+40
Thats just a war crime with extra steps
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Kalsto62 days ago
+7
Doesn't matter though. Perfidy is quite literally justified by world media because they will publish BOMBS SCHOOL/HOSPITAL and in many cases have never did a retraction. Causing highest outrage gets them the highest money.
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joelfarris2 days ago
+4
March! In double-crime!
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terragutti2 days ago
+3
Lol what a cope. Imagine saying using civilians as human shields isnt a war crime
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IRlyWhipTheLlamasAss3 days ago
+14
What about using a civilian hotel?
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invisible322 days ago
+4
Hotels aren't inherently considered civilian objects the way hospitals and schools are, but it can still be a war crime in certain circumstances.
To qualify as perfidy they would have to be attempting to disguise the troops or their activities in the hotel as purely civilian, and then stage attacks or otherwise conduct military operations out of the hotel. If the hotel is solely used as evacuated lodging, it would not meet the standards of perfidy.
To qualify as using human shields the hotel would need to still be occupied by civilians unaffiliated to the war objectives, and the group placing the troops there would need to be aware that an attack on the structure, as a result of the troops housed there, was imminent or at least likely.
Even if there was a civilian presence, yet no war crime to house troops there, it would still not likely be a war crime to attack the hotel, however.
As long as the hotel is being struck in an attempt to kill the housed troops, without a specific attempt to also kill the civilians, and the benefit of eliminating the troops there subjectively outweighs the harm to the civilian population, the attack would meet all the requirements under the Geneva convention.
Specifically the standards of distinction, proportionality, and military necessity.
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fitandhealthyguy2 days ago
+8
We only care about war crimes when it is Trump or Bibi
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NegevThunderstorm2 days ago
+7
Antisemites only care about war crimes when they make them up and it looks bad against Jews
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Apart_Ad15372 days ago
+5
Well, they’re terrorists so….they don’t care. If anything, hezbollah sometimes does things specifically BECAUSE it’s a war crime
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Efficient_Basis_21393 days ago
+154
To the surprise of *checks notes* no one?!?!
Straight out of the Axis of Resistance terrorist playbook
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Equivalent-Process172 days ago
+45
A good amount of leftists at least pretend to be unaware
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HotLoad78782 days ago
+30
They've stopped pretending and are now at the don't care as long as it hurts Israel phase
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sh0tgunben3 days ago
+425
Hezbollah are hideous terrorist, so beware.
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greenskinmarch3 days ago
+177
Never forget that Hezbollah helped Syrian dictator Assad (who is Alawite, a Shia offshoot) to murder half a million Syrians (who are mostly Sunni) during the Syrian civil war.
Hezbollah is just one of the tentacles of Iranian Shia supremacism. Others include the Houthis, another Iranian-supported Shia minority who oppress the Yemenite Sunni majority.
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Primary-Debate-5492 days ago
+43
They did that with air support from Russia.
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SeaworthinessSome4542 days ago
+36
Add Hamas to the list as well
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Primary-Debate-5492 days ago
+5
Even hamas does it with Russian support. Their 2 main weapons are "Katushya" (Russian for little girl, a famous russian folk song) and "Kalashnikov".
Which immediately answers both why leftists are on their side and why it has such strong support in the west.
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reptarge3 days ago
+924
Going to wait for listnookors to tell me how this is fake news planted by the Jews and how hezbollah is actually a peaceful organization
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humanities_shame3 days ago
+491
LGBT for Hezbollah.
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yosisoy3 days ago
+187
Pregnant Doctors Without Borders for IRGC
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arathorn33 days ago
+59
Pregnant 8 year old Trans doctors Hezbollah
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1oser2 days ago
+2
Gottem in the first half!
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poulan92 days ago
+20
Feminists for Hezbollah
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lapomba3 days ago
+2
[ Removed by Listnook ]
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After_Lie_8073 days ago
+86
Let’s not forget that hezbollah helped Bashar Assad in Syria kill half a million people during the Syrian civil war on orders from Iran. They are in no way helpful to anyone but themselves and Iran.
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vinli2 days ago
+28
Ironically enough, that included killing Palestinian refugees within Syria. But pro-pallies tend to gloss over that.
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DanIvvy2 days ago
+17
They’re not pro Palestinian they’re anti Israel
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Phillip2283 days ago
+213
Those people are so annoying.
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standardargument3 days ago
+213
Those people are the reason why everyone thinks the left is crazy and lump us all in the same bunch.
Israel could be wrong on multiple fronts but we cannot d******* the Islamic-terrorism that's plaguing the globe
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TheMedRat2 days ago
+28
As a card carrying member of queer disabled feminists for ISIS, I think you’re delusional.
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Wooden_Masterpiece_93 days ago
+47
You are correct.
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DriveShaftBassPlayer2 days ago
+3
Tell that to all the colleges here in the USA that let protestors march all over campus for terrorists.
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Korach2 days ago
+3
Yeah! Why can’t everyone be wrong?
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[deleted]3 days ago
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pm_me_your_smth3 days ago
+166
People prefer binary thinking i.e. my camp vs your camp, because it's mentally easier and doesn't force you to admit that life is complex.
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s1okke3 days ago
+30
That’s only part of the dynamic at play. Many people have more nuanced opinions, but they are effectively filtered out by the platforms on which public discourse is now taking place. In a noisy environment like Listnook, a succinct, punchy, unambiguously articulated opinion will always triumph over “it’s complicated.” It’s not that humans are incapable of nuanced thinking or intelligent discourse—it’s that the algorithms that maximize engagement strongly incentivize against it.
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ShotStatistician79792 days ago
+3
I think you’re giving humans way too much credit. Unfortunately most people in the world are quite dumb while simultaneously thinking they are extremely smart.
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leavemeinpieces2 days ago
+4
People are lazy and stupid. That's why it's so easy to manipulate them, and why those that do are so successful.
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VTKajin3 days ago
+4
Campism is cancer
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Dry_Magazine7963 days ago
+8
Precisely.
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Bovoduch3 days ago
+42
Except screaming “grrr it’s an Israeli lie!” With no evidence of it whatsoever isn’t critical thinking and it’s not “criticism.” It’s just reactionary BS
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gord_m3 days ago
+30
I did not call it a lie, screaming or otherwise, don't be so dramatic. I wasn't even addressing this specific incident, I was commenting specifically on u/reptarge 's dismissive post.
However I will respond to your comment , have you not heard the expression, the first casualty of war is the truth? The prudent default approach should be to distrust information coming from either side.
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NeverEvaGonnaStopMe2 days ago
+6
Thats some shit you just made up though? No one said that.
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counter-proof03643 days ago
+28
Do you see points for this view?
I subscribe to your general criticism of Israel"s government, but since Hizbollah is founded by the terrorists in Teheran I still tend to place the majority of my bets on the Osraelis.
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avax963 days ago
+33
If I have to give the benefit of the doubt, I would choose IDF over Hezbollah any day. It's that simple.
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gord_m3 days ago
+15
I'm inclined to the same, merely pointing out criticism of Israeli government or it's policies does not equate to supporting Hezbollah. Why is that so hard for people to understand?
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DeathMetal0073 days ago
-8
If IDF policy is to remove Hezbollah in Lebanon, do you support that policy or do you not support that policy because of a general non support of IDF?
I don't like Israel's settlement policy and several other parts of IDF, but the organizations goals align mostly with UN policies that are not enforced.
It's easy to tell everyone to stop, but if no one listens, then your call to stop is not useful. You then have to tell each side to stop individually in which case you end up supporting one over the other if you are able to get one to stop and not the other.
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Miyagisans3 days ago
+7
You’d give the benefit of the doubt to the settler colonial military that’s been doing this long before Hezbollah existed? Lmfao. Of course you would.
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avax963 days ago
+9
Yes I would. If your existence is constantly being threatened - you have to do certain things. They try to get it done as morally as possible. I am putting my money on them instead of radical Hezbollah. There were Hezbollahs and there will always be Hezbollahs. Ignoring their deeds for the sake of getting a hate boner makes me hold you to the same standard as them.
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Miyagisans2 days ago
+9
>If your existence is constantly being threatened - you have to do certain things.
The cognitive dissonance is incredible.
>They try to get it done as morally as possible.
Again, simply incredible delusion.
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avax962 days ago
+7
Do you have anything to say other than this?
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ibyczek783 days ago
+31
Or if you had more than 2 brain cells you'd be able to understand that Hezbollah murdering civilians is just as bad the IDF murdering civilians. Both can exist at once. Both should be condemned.
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BadHombreSinNombre3 days ago
+9
These are educational weapons /s
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Extreme_Put_9133 days ago
+21
I don't think Hezbollah is a peaceful organization its a terror group for gods sake, but the Israeli government (Thanks to its current administration) and the IDF have lost their credibility for me.
How do you justify displacing 1m Lebanese, killing 2k, injuring 7k? By blaming a terrorist organization?
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yosisoy3 days ago
+72
Imagine you're Israel: How do you do justify sitting on your hands while Hezbollah's bombing your cities? So instead of it being Israel's problem it's Lebanon's problem
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par-a-dox-i-cal2 days ago
+4
>How do you justify displacing 1m Lebanese, killing 2k, injuring 7k? By blaming a terrorist organization?
How do you fight terrorist organization which is mixed with civilians?
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FYoCouchEddie3 days ago
+20
A large majority of the 2,000 people killed were Hezbollah members. You don’t even have to believe Israel about that. If you look at the numbers Lebanon is putting out, the male/female disparity confirms it.
This is an example of part of the problem with this conflict. The media is always looking for ways to spin it as whoever Israel is fighting is a poor innocent victim. So any facts that undermine that—like that Hezbollah started this war and that the majority of deaths were combatants—just get ignored.
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Extreme_Put_9133 days ago
+20
The same way that the 80k dead in Gaza are all Hamas members? Or wait those numbers were inflated right. No source in anything regarding Israel is trustworthy unfortunately. But we can be sure for one thing innocents are dying and Israel is creating the next generation of terrorists. All Israel doing today is creating combatants their grand kids will fight.
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FYoCouchEddie2 days ago
+16
According to the latest numbers on Google, of the roughly 2,100 people killed, 252 were women and 172 were children. That leaves about 1,676 men. What is your explanation for why 6.5 times as many men were killed as women?
And before you claim I am saying all men should be treated as combatants, that’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying with respect to collateral damage, the number of women killed is as good a proxy as we’re going to get for the number of male civilians killed. If we use that as a proxy, that would leave about 1,400 Hezbollah members killed: 2/3 of the total dead. That’s very impressive.
And it’s silly to say Israel is creating the next generation of terrorists when they’ve already been fighting terrorists for over 75 years. Yeah, I’m sure they were all just about to stop until this war happened. Hamas and Hezbollah are both very explicit that their issue isn’t with this action or that action that Israel does: their issue is with Israel’s existence. They see destroying Israel as a religious obligation and they are religious fanatics who are willing to do whatever they can to fulfill it. Israel’s only options are to defeat them or be destroyed by them and they rightfully choose the former.
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bnyc183 days ago
+37
Just curious… what would you have Israel do when Hezbollah continues to cause millions of Israelis to be displaced and/or fleeing to bomb shelters constantly?
Negotiate a peace deal with Lebanese government? They tried that, didn’t work.
Have the UN peacekeepers be a “buffer”? They tried that, didn’t work.
Specifically target their leadership? They tried that, didn’t work.
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Vhu3 days ago
+317
> **according to military reports released Thursday.**
The only outlets reporting this are literally just repeating an IDF press release.
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IranianLawyer3 days ago
+137
Did you expect Hezbollah to report that they’re stashing weapons in schools or what?
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recumbent_mike2 days ago
+13
Well that would be the sporting thing to do.
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Highflyer1082 days ago
+3
IranianLawyer
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qTp_Meteor3 days ago
+66
What do you expect? Al Jazeera to reveal this? The only source that can reveal this is the idf
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TheCrazyBean2 days ago
+81
I want to start by saying that Hezbollah is 100% a terrorist organizarion and I don't doubt they stockpile their weapons in schools and hospitals, because that's what terrorists do, but maybe Israel could invite Reuters or international reporters to cover stuff like this instead of killing them.
Offer protection to the reporters and let them show everything to the world, instead of acting like terrorist themselves and bombing news crews.
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missurunha2 days ago
+3
Hezbollah has been doing this for a few decades, are there any examples of the local midia reporting these? Given a few dozen journalists have been killed in combat at least someone must have reported it.
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DukeElliot2 days ago
+9
No, of course not… because Al Jazeera isn’t allowed to operate in any area under direct Israeli control.
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AWhole2Marijuanas3 days ago
+57
"You see we have to bomb these schools, kill all the civilians, tear down their homes, and sell the land to our people! They had guns in *A* school" - the Notoriously Trustworthy IDF, who have never broken a ceasefire or created an aid trap.
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uvero2 days ago
+3
It's good to be skeptical, but also, who else could've bring evidence to this? It's not like Hezbollah would admit it, and I don't see a way that media could've uncovered it
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whupzzmyb2 days ago
+5
There's rednecks in West Virginia with more weapons than that...
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Threecatproblem2 days ago
+15
Almost the exact story was published just a few days ago, but that story said the arms were hidden under a hospital. Were these two separate events? Or are we being gaslit again.
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CamisaMalva2 days ago
+3
... You think the terrorist organization wouldn't do either more than once?
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FluidHips3 days ago
+96
Well, I guess Israel has no choice but to murder a bunch of women and children and annex the school into their borders.
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Coalnaryinthecarmine2 days ago
+14
well at least it looks like Hezbollah recently painted!
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Mrs_SmithG2W2 days ago
+26
I want to see the proof first.
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Dudemcdudey2 days ago
+6
Honestly, this should surprise no one.
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SurroundTiny3 days ago
+12
Why does Hezbollah have 300 shotguns?
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Beargeoisie3 days ago
+46
They are an excellent weapon for close quarter urban conflict.
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vinli2 days ago
+15
Also proving useful in Ukraine for shooting down fpv drones.
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Affectionate-Act61273 days ago
+2
Mohammad Beyranvand placed above 25th in the Olympics.
Trap and skeet is now a weapon for international power projection at the Olympics games for Iran and its proxies.
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SurroundTiny3 days ago
+4
So maybe it's the olympic team training center that they captured? Seriously if i were arming a militia the only reason I would opt for shotguns is that I could find absolutely no other weapons available. That might be the case here, or I am assuming good sense which might be incorrect. TBH it could also mean that I don't know what I'm talking about - always a good chance.
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Syeina1 day ago
+3
Wtf believes Israel anymore these days on this kind of stuff
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PaleInTexas3 days ago
+28
People believe anything coming from the IDF? This was the group that buried ambulances to hide their crimes right?
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GibbysUSSA2 days ago
+3
The group that the UN has verified killed over 400 Palestinian journalists in Gaza? That group?
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ApparentlyEllis2 days ago
+4
That looks like a random midwestern gun store in a town of about 40k people.
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Ultra_Metal3 days ago
+24
Another war crime uncovered. Hezbollah is responsible for anything that happens in the civilian buildings it turns into military bases.
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___AirBuddDwyer___3 days ago
-4
It’s striking how often defenders of Israel try to distance Israel from its actions. When Israel bombs a school you know you can’t defend it, so you go “oh actually the school bombed itself”
“We’re not responsible for the consequences of our actions, our enemies are” is a terrifying attitude for a nuclear state to have
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Veldern3 days ago
+72
The entire reason setting up bases/weapon depos in schools and hospitals are war crimes is because it pretty much forces the enemy to bomb/attack them.......
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yosisoy3 days ago
+24
It's striking how even when faced with evidence that this school was used for military purposes you would say that.
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___AirBuddDwyer___3 days ago
-1
Is it? I don’t actually think that the IDF’s claims amount to meaningful evidence, but even if we assume that this school is what the IDF says it is, it’s still striking that they distance themselves from their own actions.
Israel doesn’t claim “yes, we did order a school bombed, and we regret the civilian casualties, but we had to do that.” They talk like someone else killed the people that their bombs killed.
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yosisoy3 days ago
+15
Are you talking about an actual person or just random shit on twitter?
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___AirBuddDwyer___3 days ago
+8
I’m talking about a trend I’ve noticed in several mediums where I’ve seen people defend Israel, which Ultra_Metal’s comment is an example of
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Person5_2 days ago
+4
So you're saying using civilian human shields is ok and terrorists who put them there are not responsible for their deaths?
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___AirBuddDwyer___2 days ago
+2
No, that isn’t what I said at all. Do you honestly think it is?
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Gundungus2 days ago
+6
Hmmmm, maybe we should level the entire residential block, and the nearby hospital just to be safe… There are hundreds of children and civilians there too? Even better.
-Israel probably
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charlies_brain2 days ago
+4
Yes, they left them in a nice pretty arrangement for photo ops.
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Tricky-Translator-613 days ago
+7
This is how we know who are the bad guys
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azarash3 days ago
+49
Spoken like a 5 year old making sense of a Sunday morning cartoon
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Comfortable_Cash_1403 days ago
+5
The people who need to understand this will deny it!
At least this stuff will be documented for the inevitable war crimes charges.
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used_bryn2 days ago
+4
Hesbollah so hygienic dudes, they clean floor and wall everyday. Also how you pick that rifles beside the wall? Passing through rifles on the floor?
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Hobo_cleaner2 days ago
+5
Almost everything in the picture is a hunting rifle/shotgun….
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NegevThunderstorm2 days ago
+3
Yes, those are guns!
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sylpher2502 days ago
+4
Even American school shooters are better equipped
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marianass3 days ago
+4
i24NEWS is owned by Franco-Israeli billionaire Patrick Drahi through his telecommunications and media group
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greeneyedmtnjack3 days ago
+2
IDF justifies murdering women and children because they find... shotguns?
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Konnnan2 days ago
+16
What a f****** stretch. Did you miss the part that they were stashed in a school? Or do you deny that Hezbollah is a terrorist organization?
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PontiusPilatesss2 days ago
+2
Hezbollah is a terrorist organization.
Do you deny that Netanyahu is wanted by ICC for war crimes?
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Konnnan2 days ago
+5
Netanyahu f****** sucks.
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TheBatemanFlex3 days ago
-1
Believing that the IDF is somehow above staging something like this is crazy, but believing that Hezbollah doesn’t use schools as bases and stash houses is probably more crazy.
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FYoCouchEddie3 days ago
+15
I’d say making up a conspiracy theory that the IDF planted weapons in a school is way, way crazier than thinking they did without any evidence.
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woodpaulusgnome2 days ago
+4
The $64,000 question is, should we believe the IDF?
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TachiH3 days ago
+3
If that is what Hezbqllah have as an arsenal then why are they scary? That is your average American bedroom, its all shotguns and hunting rifles. I expected terrorists to at least have standards 🤣. I live in the UK and can't see anything we can't legally own.
Israel need to leave Lebanon but I feel that the Lebanese police can for sure clear out Hezbollah now they are weakened.
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tachophile2 days ago
+1
Everything after the 4th most upvoted comment are Hezbollah supporters trying to defend, discredit, or what-about the event.
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Stevil4583LBC2 days ago
+2
Doubt
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Dr_Prunesquallor2 days ago
+2
ahh, IDF, fabled reliable source of information..
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iAmSamFromWSB2 days ago
+2
Sounds more like an excuse of why the IDF killed even more kids
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Scoo2 days ago
+2
Sure they did.
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Shuiei3 days ago
-23
Bots are going crazy downvoting every comment saying that the IDF is a terrorist organization, too.
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1Beholderandrip3 days ago
+18
We're not all bots. We just dislike terrorists using human shields more than we care about your banking loan being denied.
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JD0x03 days ago
+26
Non-bot here downvoting these comments, simply because they're wrong. Glad I could help.
Also, weird of you to see evidence of a legitimate terrorist organization commit a documented war crime and then try to turn it around on the IDF calling them 'terrorists'. Maybe that's why other people are downvoting you, too.
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SpaceJays90s3 days ago
-6
Statements by the IDF do not serve as evidence, there's no 3rd party to verify what these butchers claim is even factual.
Glad I could help, lol
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Lord_Blakeney2 days ago
+12
Here is the issue with your logic: there is no proof you would accept.
You mentioned their statement, thats fine but are you ignoring the photo? Maybe you dismiss it as staged. What third party confirmation would be enough for you? Anyone they let it in to verify you can dismiss as handpicked by IDF. Any fully independent organization that says “yup, we see weapons here” you can just claim IDF planted them before anyone else arrived to verify. Anyone physically present to discover them along with IDF would have to be trusted enough by them to accompany into combat, so even someone finding them WITH IDF at that very moment can be dismissed as selected to lie for them.
You’ve already *decided* that anything they say is a lie, lets not pretend there is an evidentiary standard you would believe and not simply dismiss as fabricated, planted, or compromised.
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tes_kitty3 days ago
+14
Just curious... How would you suggest a 3rd party could verify such claims?
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JD0x03 days ago
+21
Weird how y'all have a higher burden of proof for the IDF than actual terrorist organizations. Hmm wonder why that is...
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Maxamillion-X723 days ago
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The only proof being offered is from the IDF. If Hezbollah put out a statement it would be viewed with equal distrust. Nobody is holding Israel to a higher standard than anybody else.
People are correct to hold the IDF to the SAME standard as Hezbollah, since both they and the IDF has been shown many times to be cruel, hateful, and liars.
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yosisoy3 days ago
+19
Do you see the picture? lol
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Max_Rocketanski3 days ago
Slightly OT: I'm seeing a lot of shot guns in this picture. That doesn't seem like the kinds of guns Hezbollah would want to stockpile.
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Soft-Skirt2 days ago
Convenient find that coincides with Israel committing the war crime of targeting and killing health workers.
The most moral army routine targets journalists, health workers and children.
This is the same conviennent timing that supported Trumps story that Iran suddenly had the ability to fire missiles as far as Diego Garcia.
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czawadzki2 days ago
+2
Who believes the IDF?? Seriously- look at the photo. I’m not a fan of Hezbollah but come on.
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Saleen_af2 days ago
+3
So an Isreali news station is reporting something that furthers a narrative that aligns with their goals and pretends they aren’t bombing citizens, got it.
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sovietarmyfan2 days ago
And of course, activists won't complain. Stay silent.
But then when the school is attacked they are on the street in a flash to protest the fact that "Israel is attacking schools again".
Or they do mental gymnastics to try to claim that actually Israel planted these guns.
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