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For Sale Mar 29, 2026 at 1:17 AM

I'm bothered by the constant cynicism of most late night talk shows.

Posted by HotOne9364


I don't know about you guys but that's what I'm currently thinking. I used to watch Colbert, Myers, Daily Show, LWT (not a talk show but still) pretty religiously as they felt like a good outlet for my own sense of humor and for actively reporting on what's going on in the country. But lately, I don't know if the constantly depressing news has made me not watch them anymore or if it's the apparent pessimism they have for America as a whole. What made them work for me was how their ire was against the then (now current) president, and in the Daily Show's case, at Bush. They largely left America alone because they knew that a leader doesn't represent the people. But the monologues nowadays seem to be all about reminding people that America is a "horrible country". I'm not particularly a fan of Kimmel but his monologues do get a lot of love because, as I said before, the target is the president, not the entire country. Granted, the clapter can get annoying but he's heart is in the right place. Same with the last two seasons of South Park. I don't expect comedians to be politicians and they already have a hard enough job as it is with the attacks on the 1st amendment nowadays. But, I know it's just me, can they please be skeptical about our government without being cynical about the USA?

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mrburns904 Mar 29, 2026 +20
Remind me, how does the president get chosen? Is it a random drawing? Or just like divine will or something? 
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ExecutiveDysfunc Mar 29, 2026 +37
I think the fact that this president got re-elected proved to them that people need to be shamed in order to wake up. Just targeting the politicians has been proven to allow people to justify and avoid the consequences of their actions. At the end of the day we chose this, but we just blame politicians and don’t take responsibility as a people. I think the comedians are just reacting to reality here.
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thenasch Mar 29, 2026 +30
I haven't noticed any of them saying Americans are bad people.
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megaman47 Mar 29, 2026 +16
dude is telling on himsel
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carterartist Mar 29, 2026 +39
I call bs. This is obviously a bot or a MAGAt
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com-mis-er-at-ing Mar 29, 2026 +14
The whole country is being destroyed by the current administration and Republican Party. Are they supposed to ignore that?
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mozebyc Mar 29, 2026 -7
The Biden admin was breaking laws left and right and ruining the country
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HotOne9364 Mar 29, 2026 -13
That should be the target. But, for example, I'm concerned at how instead of saying "the GOP started a war", they've been saying "*we* started a war". That terminology makes a huge difference. None of us have anything to do with this. The government did.
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shillyshally Mar 29, 2026 +8
Americans put 'the government' in power. The Trump administration was chosen by Americans to rule the United States. There's a 'we' here.
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longjumpingtote Mar 29, 2026 +2
> "the GOP started a war", they've been saying "we started a war" The GOP didn't start a war. That's factually wrong. People, including comedians and newspeople, have said "we" since the end of the Civil War in 1865. > The government did. Trump did. Not the government. Nobody but Trump started this war. This is a democracy. *We are the government.* "Government of the people, by the people, for the people." The people in government didn't come from Mars. They are us. Americans. We are them.
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Sonichu- Mar 29, 2026 +1
What do you think “the government” is?
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nguyenjitsu Mar 29, 2026 +5
If you're not disillusioned by the current state of the country then what is wrong with YOU dude lol
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askingtherealstuff Mar 29, 2026 +3
America is in fact impacted by the people living in and ruling over it  Ignoring its systemic issues would be irresponsible 
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predator-handshake Mar 29, 2026 +3
I stopped watching all of them when trump won again. I’m so tired of hearing about that ass and his stupidities, especially as a Canadian. He makes my blood boil and i’ve felt way better since i got rid of that toxicity out of my life, even if it meant ditching my fave late nighters.
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XJ347 Mar 29, 2026 +3
Most of America are not bad people. Saying that, 30% are absolutely terrible people. The issue is that the election system is rigged in a way to give smaller states an advantage in voting because of the electoral college. So we get republican presidents who don't win the popular vote. So those 30% bad people also vote, and swing elections, and the popular vote loses. America is pretty fucked up. The people have the ability to change it, but we need voters who are at an advantage from this broken system to agree to fix it. I have little faith that America can do the hard but right thing. We are to selfish of a people.
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ElectricalPeace3439 Mar 29, 2026 +10
The vast majority of the worst things to happen to the world in the past 250 years? America has either indirectly or straight up directly caused. So that cynicism is well-earned.
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Duchess0612 Mar 29, 2026 +2
I find this to be a weird flat statement to express. These guys, as part of their jobs - have to watch all of the content and craziness that happens on all levels of society, but especially when it’s the Trump organization it’s like the craziness has no end ever. I do not envy them at all. So they have to fill their days with all of that stuff and then rise above it to effectively evaluate the message against the real world, things that we know to be true, and if this crazy thing were applied, but in a more balanced way, what would that look like. And after all that, slogging through pretty much nonstop content that seems to be flip-flopping every 20 seconds, each evening they pull it together to produce a tight 22 minutes of clarity out of all the slop. Cynical can be, and understandably, one of the byproducts. But they are not just cynical. They are prismatic in their approach. As they ought to be. For me, Jon Stewart is the one who exemplifies this best. When he talks about, for example, 911 and the firefighters, etc. he is sincere, he is passionate, he is focused, and he had a very specific goal in mind when he decided to champion it. And he champion it over years, going out of his way and his norms and his work life to give of himself - for the sake of a cause he truly believed in. That would be a prism where, even when they ran into roadblocks, optimism was the driver. Then you have some of these stories that occur, flooding, unexpected fire, hurricane events, etc., where once again there is empathy and compassion and expressions of we are all here and rooting for you, we want you to be rooting for yourself as well… And then there’s the fully justifiable cynicism when it comes to people who have put themselves in leadership positions, claim to be and represent things, passionately and then they consistently do the opposite. It makes for great opportunities to poke at the inevitable result, as well as inject some humor into it — cause when you see it happen for the millionth time, I don’t think a dab of cynicism is unwarranted. Anyway, this post is probably - just as everyone has been saying - someone on the other side attempting to put this out there as a new factoid that we will just add to our knowledge, no questions asked, I guess. But most of us who like these intelligent late news programs, we come equipped with tools/mental models that we use to better understand the world around us. Starting with perception, then evaluation and the ability to test statements or claims against things that have already been proven to be true - and we are able - leveraging our own knowledge and understanding the world - to evaluate the worth of what is being shared against guide posts that help us know when things are more aligned in truth or just wild ass assumptions or guesses. We don’t just hear a thing and take it on as a truth simply because it was said. We do not receive our information as baby birds - simply accepting mother’s regurgitated offerings. We see if what is being said stacks up and aligns with things we know our true, then we can see if it’s something reputable and continues to remain true or - if whatever it was could’ve been a propaganda ploy only for the moment before whoever’s agenda goes back to being selfish and failing to fulfill on promises. Discernment. I was looking for that word. In addition to the above, most of us who appreciate the intelligently packaged late night shows and hosts, come equipped with discernment. All this, and the post was probably written by someone just to see what kind of reaction they could stir up. You wanted to make this statement about you being bothered by “rampant cynicism” because you wanted a feeding frenzy of others to come in and validate what is at it’s base, just a personal thought, or something you’ve come to embrace as true, but it’s only true as seen through your own biased senses. Just because you have begun to interpret, probably almost anything that is said, coming from the late night hosts as couched in cynicism - doesn’t make it true. Silly rabbit.
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longjumpingtote Mar 29, 2026 +2
All comedians are cynics. Well maybe not Joe Pera. You just don't like what they are cynical *about*. You liked it before, don't like it now. The president and the country have been fodder for late night since it started. Mostly because they have to come up with jokes every night, and 95% of what changes day-by-day is something to do with politics. The other 4% is sports, and then there's weather. > can they please be skeptical about our government without being cynical about the USA? If they truly feel that why, how could they hide it? Comedy is one of the most truthful forms of art. The whole point is to dig under the skin and see what's really lurking down there. And laughing is the only way many people can deal with tragedy.
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CantCMe88 Mar 29, 2026 -9
I agree with you that the all these late night shows are almost unwatchable. It’s just repetitive. How many times do we need to make fun of Trump. We’ve been doing these same jokes for like 8 years now. However, I disagree with you that America is a c*** country. Go travel the world, we are so far behind Asia. We constantly destroy other countries, regardless of who are president is. But that’s an entirely different discussion. But I’m with you that the late night shows are just repetitive and getting tiresome.
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