Image Hosting on Listnook

Sounds like a great solution. Thank you! P.S. We're hiring: https://boards.greenhouse.io/listnook

What a website. Getting tech support from its own customers. What a time to live.

No it wont... once the uploader removes the original post the link to that image will break

Hehe, years ago a rival sports board was found to be hotlinking a ton of images off of our board, so of course we went in late at night, changed all the filenames, and linked p*** to the old filename. Not sure you could do that here, but it brought a laugh when I was reminded of that.

Meanwhile at your job: ."guys he's doing it again! He has like 6 pictures of owls in hats pulled up on his desktop. He is cuckoo about who who!"

You can delete archived posts. Example: I just deleted [this old /r/spam post](https://redd.it/39o34i); this was it [before deletion](http://archive.is/g5J8N).

A moderator removing a post doesn't actually delete it. It just removes it from view in the sublistnook in which the moderator removed it.

You don't actually delete posts as a mod, you just remove them from being shown on the sublistnook. That's why you can still visit them from a user page or PM.

ArchiveTeam cell here. This is taken care of already. EDIT: Its going into cold storage.

On the subject of RES integration, it may be my version's slightly out of date or some such but I can't manipulate the size of opened images that were uploaded to listnook. It's distracting as all hell 'cause I fiddle with practically every image I open due to having a midlow-res screen.

This is the real answer right here. Originally Listnook was designed so people could post all their content and content they find on one site, ie: *content aggregation*. Imgur was designed to be a simple host for that purpose; it loads fast, doesn't get tanked by heavy traffic and you don't have to scroll to get to the content once you click. Over time Imgur has grown. A lot. It's now its own community. People don't just use it as a host for other sites now, they post to Imgur *for the sake of sharing with the Imgur community*. They hold discussions and socialize there. It's become what Listnook was designed to be...or one could say, a *competitor*. Now one nice thing about Listnook being a content aggregator is it encouraged the whole community to post links to the best stuff from around the web. Or it did. Listnook has also changed. Users want direct links to Imgur so the content loads fast and they don't have to scroll. The less work, the better. In addition, anti-spam and self-promotion rules mean most sublistnooks won't even let you regularly post your own (new) OC without offloading it on Imgur or a similar site to cut off any pageviews you'd get from it and circumvent those spam rules. That way users don't have to leave, you don't get an compensation, and Listnook gets more content viewers, more page views *and* the content. Those business people you mention like pageviews because they're the lifeblood of web content. Hosting anything or creating anything for the web has to generate revenue. Either you're charging for entry or a subscription, you're charging by the ad (page views), or selling some sort of product. It all has to make money somewhere. Not surprising, but all of those people creating content for the internet *also* like getting pageviews. Except Listnook has trained its users to like content fast and free, via uploading to Imgur. Rather than just aggregate, Listnook has begun harvesting content, slapping it on a third party site and repeatedly serving it back to itself without credit or concern for the people that create it. I've seen [3 minute comedy videos converted into a gif](https://www.listnook.com/r/funny/comments/3xqrbk/darth_grinch/) (so no audio, no playback functions) posted here and people *defend* it because "gifs don't have sound and I might be at work!" or, more commonly "I don't click Youtube links/I get more clicks if I post a gif." ([Kudos to CorridorDigital, Darth Santa was a funny video and deserved better than being frontpaged in gif form.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R91QF6Xbaow)) Listnook has gone from content aggregating to straight up [freebooting.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLqCz5xBwGk) Supporting uploads without leaving the site and displaying them without leaving the site is just the next evolution of it. You either die a Digg or live long enough to see yourself become a 9gag.

>1) We want to inflate our pageviews, because that's a metric that business people use to quantify website worth. I work for the local newspaper as a reporter. About six months ago, we were told to stop tossing the photos we didn't use in a story. We typically had 2-4 photos per story. Now we have photo galleries with almost every story. The increase in pageviews has been phenomenal.

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> RemindMe! 2 years Yeah, that does sound a little bit like microsoft's "embrace, extend, extinguish" methodology in it's beginning stages. With how listnook has gone in terms of monetizing and censoring/vote "algorithming" certain types of posts, I wouldn't be surprised if it goes full digg in the next few years.

I was getting so angry at that and the demands that I switch to their shitty app. No, I use imgur because it's an image hosting service. Not for the f****** app. F*** off.

4) Imgur generally becoming over-monetized and slow.

Who in the F*** thought that was a good idea? And do they still work at imgur?

Well, listnook did fund [imgur's last round of financing](http://venturebeat.com/2014/04/03/imgur-the-startup-that-doesnt-need-funding-closes-40m-from-listnook-andreessen-horowitz/)... so listnook indirectly profits from imgur doing ok.

How so? People come to Listnook, are served links (which take basically nothing to host) and sidebar ads, and then are sent to imgur to pick up images (which take comparatively huge amounts of overhead for the company store and deliver) and ads (if the link submitter didn't link directly to the image, anyway. In that case, no ad revenue for imgur). Listnook's the leech, here, not imgur. They put in the heavy lifting of storing and delivering images, while Listnook skates by collecting ad revenue from hyperlinks. Taking on image hosting is going to be a massive investment of resources for Listnook for very little extra revenue (if any), and frankly I don't know how Listnook can think they're ready for it when even the text site still breaks down frequently for going over capacity.

Two line breaks make a new paragraph. New line can be made with two spaces at the end of the line before pressing enter. This is a paragraph. This is a new paragraph. And this is a new line.

Same with listnook.com/.compact Then again they've been pushing the new mobile format pretty hard, so I kind of expect it.

I have no idea what all this is about, but I just want to say that one of my favorite things about listnook is and always has been that there's people like you all over the place on this site offering expert advice to the most random things like this. Like, it's just really cool to me that someone can have a weird little problem like this and somewhere out there is a person who immediately knows what the computers behind the scenes did wrong and how to fix it.

If I understand right, this is the hosting for the thumbnail image, right? I think that might be covered by Fair Use in the same vein that image search engines are protected, see [Perfect 10, Inc. v. Amazon.com, Inc.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_10,_Inc._v._Amazon.com,_Inc.): >The court held that Google's framing and hyperlinking as part of an image search engine constituted a fair use of Perfect 10's images because the use was highly transformative, overturning most of the district court's decision. That "thumbnail" is pretty big though, so... maybe not: >The Ninth Circuit did, however, overturn the district court's decision that Google's thumbnails were infringing. Google's argument, which was upheld by the court, was a fair use defense. The appellate court ruled that Google's use of thumbnails was fair use, mainly because they were "highly transformative."** The court did not define what size a thumbnail is but the examples the court cited was only 3% of the original. Most other major sites use a size not longer than 150 pixels on the long size**. Specifically, the court ruled that Google transformed the images from a use of entertainment and artistic expression to one of retrieving information, citing the similar case, Kelly v. Arriba Soft Corporation. The court reached this conclusion despite the fact that Perfect 10 was attempting to market thumbnail images for cell phones, with the court quipping that the "potential harm to Perfect 10's market remains hypothetical. Seems to be vague on that count, so like I said, only *might* be covered. But point is that rehosting in of itself wouldn't automatically be breaking the law.

Seems someone knew exactly what the problem was.

/u/spez could you not update the TOS to specify that Listnook retains the right to display the images on their site or via third party apps but doesn't own them? Imgur TOS seems to be slightly better here: http://imgur.com/tos EDIT: clarification by "own" I mean have the right to resell for revenue without expressed written consent of content creator or maintain even beyond deletion.

Just FYI that signature isn't time bound, it's purely so that folks can't alter the other parameters and create a bunch of different sizes of images or something, which could cause excessive server load. That URL will stick around as long as the post isn't deleted. (Cc /u/daveime /u/Theblandyman)

Yeah, I've come across this before, and it breaks the whole concept of sharing content. You share something, it *appears* to be shared, then come back the following day and the image link is now broken.

>Which is incredibly stupid. The file should be accessible without those unnecessary parameters. You're right. >w=712 >&s=8d0abe1b9e5e65418f72c05012bbe50c It's just a really funny but unnecessary request method. I mean, I don't like it either.. but *if people are loud enough change will come* so I really hope this is cleaned up and the system changed. Using something like Youtube's video ID or Imgur's.. what, 6 character length? should be plenty of room. And f*** all that other stuff the users don't need to deal with that.

From my point of view, you are drifting *on* topic

Short of renewing the sublistnook, I'd appreciate if they just addressed the fact that they stopped posting there altogether without telling the community.

It's a bit more complicated than adding a new css class, but the plan is that RES will add its own handler to replace listnook's.

Good tip. Imagus is available on [Firefox](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/imagus/) as well as [Chrome](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/imagus/immpkjjlgappgfkkfieppnmlhakdmaab?hl=en).

You can fix that by disabling media previews in your listnook preferences which will then make it so RES handles all expandos.

You can't drag to resize some of them either. Seems to be the "i.listnookuploads" ones. "i.redd.it" is resizeable.