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Announcements Apr 1, 2020 at 4:48 PM

Imposter

Posted by powerlanguage


If you’ve participated in Listnook’s April Fools’ Day tradition before, you'll know that this is the point where we normally share a confusing/cryptic message before pointing you toward some weird experience that we’ve created for your enjoyment. While we still plan to do that, we think it’s important to acknowledge that this year, things feel quite a bit different. The world is experiencing a moment of incredible uncertainty and stress; and throughout this time, it’s become even more clear how valuable Listnook is to millions of people looking for community, a place to seek and share information, provide support to one another, or simply to escape the reality of our collective ‘new normal.’ Over the past 5 years at Listnook, April Fools’ Day has emerged as a time for us to create and discover new things with our community (that’s all of you). It's also a chance for us to celebrate you. Listnook only succeeds because millions of humans come together each day to make this collective system work. We create a project each April Fools’ Day to say thank you, and think it’s important to continue that tradition this year too. We hope this year’s experience will provide some insight and moments of delight during this strange and difficult time. With that said, as promised: >*What makes you human?* > >*Can you recognize it in others?* > >*Are you sure?* Visit r/Imposter in your browser, [iOS](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/listnook/id1064216828), and [Android](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.listnook.frontpage). Have fun and be safe, The Listnook Admins.
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +2820
>To participate in r/Imposter visit new listnook. Well, looks like I won't be participating this year. See you guys next year! o/ Edit: Ok, peeps, I am gonna save ~~the world~~ you all today. Actually if you just follow https://new.listnook.com/r/Imposter it will be in new look, but Listnook will not switch the whole website to new look and your default setting will stay the same. Edit2: Damn, this went so big for me, I am having panic attack
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0xB0BAFE77 Apr 1, 2020 +41
> To participate in r/Imposter visit new listnook. That's gonna be a healthy "f*** no" from me, Alex. I mean "What is f*** no?", Alex. But seriously, does anyone clearly see this as an attempt to force people onto new listnook. When will the admins learn that a LOT of people aren't a fan of that "mobile, data in the middle of the browser isntead of filling my whole damn screen" thing.
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +124
Yep, no, still on old.listnook, and the second I can't be is when I walk away from the site. I came here for not-Facebook, thank you very much.
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +37
I wrote a Chrome Tampermonkey script automatically redirects to old.listnook.com whenever the new Listnook attempts to load. It also removes a lot of the annoying bloat like user/sub flair, ads, as well as custom css and logos. It makes the website much more consistent and usable. Edit: As someone mentioned below, yes you can use Listnook settings to use old Listnook but this requires you to be signed in and doesn't work for *every* case.
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Crashbrennan Apr 1, 2020 +33
You can literally just change a setting and make it default to old listnook.
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ThrowawayusGenerica Apr 2, 2020 +13
In my experience it would randomly change back to the redesign every and then for no discernable reason.
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Donigula Apr 1, 2020 +118
Would be great if they just came and admitted that New Listnook is the joke and we will stop this unbelievably annoying advertisement prank and go back to Good Listnook forever.
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lifelikecobwebsnare Apr 1, 2020 +6874
This is 100% a Turing test for users to train Listnook’s bots. These will be used against us in the future. Who could have foresaw the damage Facebook was going to do to politics? It was just a place to add your friends and share stuff you like! This is far more obviously dangerous. Listnook admins must start auto-tagging their own bots and suspected 3rd party bots. Users have a right to know if they interacting with a person, or a bot shilling politics or wares. The Chinese Govt doesn’t own a controlling stake of listnook for no reason. This f****** stinks to high heaven!
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[deleted] Apr 2, 2020 +1142
It's a simple Markov chain. It doesn't do anything except use the responses people type in to generate answers to the question probabilistically based on a random seed. [Here's some examples of impostor answers.](https://www.listnook.com/r/Imposter/comments/ft77n8/ive_found_that_the_imposter_often_uses_incorrect/) Let's take "the ability to perceive my own and act on them" as an example of how this works. It starts with "the" because a lot of replies start that way. One of the most common things to follow "the" in responses is "ability," and so on. However, because it only generates sentences probabilistically, it has no concept of grammar or coherent train of thought, so it goes off the rails. Human responses go something like "the ability to perceive my own [existence.]" Something in the spirit of "I think, therefore I am." But probabilistically, the next word in the sentence is most likely "and," and then "act on them," probably originally completing a response along the lines of something like "[the ability to think my own thoughts] and act on them." This is not super complicated AI. This is basic stuff. It doesn't generate any useful data. There's an idea in computer science called GIGO, or "garbage in, garbage out." When you have the internet interact with basic chatbots that they know are chatbots, you don't create bots that can be "used against [you] in the future." You create [genocidal maniacs with a fondness for slurs.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/03/25/not-just-tay-a-recent-history-of-the-internets-racist-bots/) In the case of where we're at so far, because it looks like they put guardrails on the Impostor, you create a chat bot who ends a lot of sentence with "peepee" or "beans." There's nothing about this that actually trains passable or useful bots. Listnook doesn't operate bots on their own website. You should learn how the science works before making fantastical assertions you got from reading too many science fiction books and untreated paranoia. People with popular political views or views you do not understand are not bots. Spam bots are banned every day because they don't look like organic posts. We really don't have bots that good yet. The Chinese government doesn't own "a controlling stake" of listnook; Tencent, a Chinese company, has a single digit percent stake in a company valued at $3 billion dollars. They invested in it because [Tencent does a massive amount of venture capital](https://qz.com/1733132/chinas-tencent-has-invested-in-more-unicorns-than-softbank/) and they do venture capital for the reason everyone else does venture capital. **They do it to make money.** You have extreme paranoia. Skepticism is useful until you find yourself completely divorced from reality and seeing monsters in the shadows all of the time.
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colorfulchew Apr 2, 2020 +248
Thank you for trying to explain this. Listnook has long had a problem with the "hive mind". I remember it most from the Boston Bomber incident, but at some level users need to combat misinformation. It makes sense that eventually it would come to harm Listnook itself, but it's a complex issue that has no immediate cure. That being said, I just played around with a Markov chain rust crate and was able to generate some hilarious results in a Discord bot. It's very simple, but generates some hilariously accurate answers. I hope paranoia doesn't get in the way of a simple April fool's gag.
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[deleted] Apr 2, 2020 +78
It wouldn't be listnook if people weren't freaking out about things they don't understand at all.
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ZUHUCO_XVI Apr 2, 2020 +37
I mean there is r/SubSimulatorGPT2. Anyone can easily harvest data from any sublistnook.
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[deleted] Apr 2, 2020 +11
Wait how is that all IA? Even the comments? There is a unreal level of precision for the chat bots.
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Dawwe Apr 2, 2020 +18
AI chatbots have been making insane progress the last couple of years, all the big tech companies have some extremely powerful models made. A very fun project that utilizes this is the [AI Dungeon \(2\)](https://aidungeon.io/play-ai-dungeon/). It basically read a bunch of user text adventures and using the powerful GPT-2 model (same as that sub uses, btw) it can dynamically create stories that you can interact with. Which is also why it's funny to think that /r/Imposter will be used in a meaningful way.
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Afro_Future Apr 2, 2020 +37
The aggregate data from this can easily be used for a machine learning project. I mean they are straight up generating tagged data on a mass scale by having users do the tagging. Edit: I'm kind of nerding out a bit replying to everyone below here, love talking about this stuff. I'm majoring in this field, so feel free to ask anything and I'll try to answer or point you to something that does.
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[deleted] Apr 2, 2020 +38
It's useless data because users *know* they are speaking to a bot. And now people are purposefully writing garbage bot-like responses with terrible grammar in an attempt to mimic the bot. Its essentially training on itself half the time, and a lot of the other responses are just batshit crazy. The only way you could find useful data is if you took conversation logs from people who had no idea they were in on it.
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Afro_Future Apr 2, 2020 +10
That's the thing. On social media for example, you know some portion of users are bots. There are users that intentionally say things that seem botlike. There are bots that are incredibly convincing. This is a controlled study of the real problem that is telling what is real and what isn't online. I'd like to make it clear that the bot we were shown is inconsequential. I doubt its anything more than a very simple learning algo like the above post said, but the data that comes out of this is what's interesting. Of course, take what I say with a grain of salt. I will say I'd like to think I know what I'm talking about since this is pretty much my entire major (and life lol) right now, but for all you know I could be a bot too.
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Dawwe Apr 2, 2020 +7
Dude we already have way, way better data and bots on listnook, check out /r/SubSimulatorGPT2 for modern text machine learning applied to sublistnooks. I'm not sure what data you think this could even create, honestly.
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Afro_Future Apr 2, 2020 +5
Yes we have tons of data, but the difference is this has already been tagged and categorized. Could be used to train an algo to discern bots from people, for example. Could be used to train a bot to seem less like a bot, not as a standalone but as part of a larger training set. It's expensive to make these types of large, categorized datasets and I can't imagine a free one like this wouldn't be used in some way.
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Dawwe Apr 2, 2020 +3
I think the data for the answers is just way to garbage to be used in any meaningful capacity. Yes, in the specific question "What makes you human?" this data could be used in a variety of ways, but outside of that I am genuinely curious how you think this could be used to train a bot. If they did a more general approach in some way then I'd tend to agree with you, but the scope here is so narrow that I fail to see how it would be used, even if they can store it in a very organized manner.
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seaVvendZ Apr 2, 2020 +14
imagine taking time to consider all options instead of jumping to the absolute worst case scenario
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FutureRocker Apr 2, 2020 +179
This is a crazy conspiracy comment and I can’t believe it’s so majorly upvoted. If Listnook wants to test bots, they can do it on normal Listnook. What they WOULDN’T do is 1) Advertise that they’re showing you a bot 2) Try to train it on answers to one basic question 3) Encourage people to deceive other users into thinking they’re the bot 4) Encourage users into exposing the bot by writing strange answers that the bot couldn’t possibly replicate. There is no way they are using this data for something significant, it is less than worthless, they could have gotten more useful data by setting a bot loose in some random threads and seeing when it gets upvoted.
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fati-abd Apr 2, 2020 +49
I thought it was ironically upvoted.
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mitvit Apr 1, 2020 +90
It doesn't take too long to realise the bot is making some weird mistakes in spelling and grammar, so the way to deceive other users is to make similar mistakes on purpose, which in turn teaches the bot incorrect grammar and syntax.
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[deleted] Apr 2, 2020 +16
It's been kind of interesting. I've occasionally dropped by throughout the day, and the impostor responses have steadily become less coherent.
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Salty-Sale Apr 2, 2020 +7
Yeah, there are hundreds of reasons as to why this is the worst possible way to get data to make realistic bots.
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JohannesVanDerWhales Apr 2, 2020 +42
Uh, what's stopping anyone who wants to do this from doing this already? I mean, there's already /r/SublistnookSimulator. And, in fact, a lot of people are doing it already, have been for decades.
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carnexhat Apr 1, 2020 +105
Which would be something to think about if people didnt just give stupid meme answers making the entire test pointless.
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pazur13 Apr 1, 2020 +46
Stupid meme comments are most of what you see on listnook, so bots need these too.
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UncomfyReminder Apr 2, 2020 +23
They’ll reach unlimited power when the bots tell each other “Good bot.”
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Salty-Sale Apr 2, 2020 +37
Ahh, yes. The Chinese government is choosing to train their robots with a tiny volume of incoherent messages about anime and chicken nuggets, instead of using the mountains of data already available to them in every format imaginable.
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bobby_pendragon Apr 1, 2020 +102
I definitely think you’re right, we’re already at the stage where so many accounts could already be bots because all they do is repost, this is just the next step for them. Except it’s not reposts, it’s carefully crafted robotic mantras that they’ll shill out while pretending to be normal humans. This is fucked up.
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Phoenix749 Apr 2, 2020 +17
Trust me. Asking people to identify which sentence is constructed by a bot by having a bunch of teenagers make dopey comments is not going to train anything useful. There is already loads of software that can do this millions of times better.
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[deleted] Apr 2, 2020 +37
is this comment an april fool? i can’t tell if you’re being serious or not
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[deleted] Apr 2, 2020 +6
This joke has been going on for years. r/SublistnookSimulator is funny as heck
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[deleted] Apr 2, 2020 +23
In what world is a 5% stake a controlling stake? How about you stop lying and spreading fake news?
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +2065
this year for April fools: train a bot spotting AI on a website absolutely overrun with bots. this is a bit on the nose isn't it . many users are fooled by bots on a daily basis
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MyPunsSuck Apr 1, 2020 +117
Given the number of people intentionally acting like bots, and the number of humans with an abysmal grasp on the English language, I don't think it'll be very good for training anything
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[deleted] Apr 2, 2020 +7
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Supachoo Apr 2, 2020 +10
>many users are fooled by bots on a daily basis The one that made me cringe was some a****** arguing with the Big Lebowski bot. I thought it was ironic at first, then I just thought it was sad.
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Letrabottle Apr 1, 2020 +405
It's way easier for a bot to seem like a human pretending to be a bot than a normal human, which makes this whole thing kind of stupid because everyone is going out of their way to give bot like answers.
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R3DT1D3 Apr 1, 2020 +387
Honestly this just makes me realize how boring and unoriginal people on Listnook are. Like you could make a convincing bot just reposting the same few jokes or references and no one would be the wiser. Kind of sad when you think about it.
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +58
Unsubscribe from all the default sublistnooks, avoid sublistnooks above the "quality threshold" (ie above 100k or so), keep to small hobby subs. Your experience will positively increase tenfold.
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +29
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +15
I'm pretty sure this already happens, to some extent.
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +9
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +6
Good point. Maybe I'm the bot and I don't even know it.
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TYRANID_VICTORY Apr 2, 2020 +3
NTA, that sounds pretty wholesome Keanu of you. I just love Minecraft and the Avengers, Fortnite bad though.
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Brodogmillionaire1 Apr 1, 2020 +11
r/sublistnooksimulator
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itsthebear Apr 1, 2020 +1409
So I'm assuming r/Imposter is just us training your machine learning algorithm to put out more humanistic bots? Are you getting us to train our own cyber enemy? Will they be able to adapt user by user to deceive them? AND you want us to do it for free? F*** China.
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lifelikecobwebsnare Apr 1, 2020 +104
Listnook needs an open policy on bots. They can’t do much about 3rd party bots, but they should be required to tag THEIR OWN bots so users know if they are interacting with a person or not.
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Ryanrdc Apr 1, 2020 +18
I may be wrong but I don’t think it should be hard to tag or flair any account that had been used with the listnook api. You have to create an app to get a secret key to use on the api. Any account that had been used to make an app for the api should be flaired as a 3rd party bot account so anyone interacting with that account can easily tell.
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[deleted] Apr 2, 2020 +16
Probably half of listnook users interact with it using API clients since we all use mobile apps not made by listnook. There’d be too many false positives unless they enforced it by significantly throttling connections if you didn’t get some kind of special bot key.
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morthaz Apr 1, 2020 +16
Now they can tailor their advertisments for every user automatically and no one can differentiate them from user posts anymore.
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I_KeepsItReal Apr 1, 2020 +22
Nope you’re reading too much into it: they are trying to push New Listnook. Visit the sublistnook and you will see.
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throwawayhaircut23 Apr 1, 2020 +2916
The only April fools I remember are "periwinkle v orangered" and r/place.. both glorious shitshows. Hope this one lives up to them.
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +221
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ncnotebook Apr 1, 2020 +90
We need to do that again, idk, rename it to something more relevant. **edit:** fck yo all
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PotatoChips23415 Apr 1, 2020 +56
Listnook plague
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ncnotebook Apr 1, 2020 +79
`Mold-19` has a nice ring to it.
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PotatoChips23415 Apr 1, 2020 +16
Check the awards dude
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ncnotebook Apr 1, 2020 +13
Wait, does the mold still spread? **edit:** seems it's a no. :(
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PotatoChips23415 Apr 1, 2020 +10
Did you try the whole alphabet
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ncnotebook Apr 1, 2020 +7
abcdefg hijk lmnop qrs tuv wx y & z
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PotatoChips23415 Apr 1, 2020 +14
What a shame we should blame u/gallowboob
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dane-jazone Apr 1, 2020 +1055
You’re telling me you don’t remember the widespread mania of The Button? That whole experience is what got me hooked on Listnook, honestly.
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HaddonHoned Apr 1, 2020 +325
I still think about The Button from time to time and chuckle about when you hovered your mouse of it and "PRESS IT PRESS IT PRESS IT PRESS IT PRESS IT PRESS IT PRESS IT PREEEEESS IIIIIITTTTT" popped up. In the end I, too, became a filthy presser.
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +25
I was a fool. I saw the button, and didn’t understand all that it represented, what it meant for me to press it. So I pressed it, and nothing happened. What was that about? Then I watched as people fought to the end over pressing it or not pressing it and I realised the mistake I’d made.
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WsThrowAwayHandle Apr 1, 2020 +35
>In the end I, too, became a filthy presser. I find "became" funny. I opened the page, saw the button, pressed the button, and then began reading what it was all about. I'm an oblivious 60s and okay with that.
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +23
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Sferr Apr 1, 2020 +21
I can neither confirm nor deny that this happened
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ahappypoop Apr 1, 2020 +137
My then girlfriend accidentally pressed it for me. We’re now engaged and I still haven’t forgiven her.
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John_Wang Apr 1, 2020 +84
Have you thought about cutting her up into pieces then putting her through a meat grinder before feeding her to your menagerie of cats?
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BanginNLeavin Apr 1, 2020 +25
The probability of this happening is about 10000% more than it was in 2019. If op does this you will be an accomplice, delete this!
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Mila_Prime Apr 1, 2020 +106
Oh god, I shouldn't have pressed. I SHOULDN'T HAVE PRESSED!
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pr1ntscreen Apr 1, 2020 +74
Filthy presser.
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superradguy Apr 1, 2020 +29
rejoice my fellow ((non presser))
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79stanger Apr 1, 2020 +16
Non presser for life!
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microcosmic5447 Apr 1, 2020 +14
We have remained pure!
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Zeddit_B Apr 1, 2020 +12
I waited until it was dropping to 9.5 because red is my favorite color, of course I got purple :(
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ChosenAginor Apr 1, 2020 +8
That one dude that created that addon. Dont remember what for but a bunch of people downloaded it and he suckered everyone by making them all press the button at the same time.
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shsdavid Apr 1, 2020 +25
I pressed at 1s I believe it was
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +15
I tried to do that but I was too slow and got 60 :(
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HobbitFoot Apr 1, 2020 +59
The best from that was 9gag still stealing memes. No one on the site knew why so many memes showed up regarding colors. Any truthful answer meant mentioning Listnook, which would delete the comment.
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baranxlr Apr 1, 2020 +23
9gag is what you get when you only take the bad parts of listnook and make them 10 times stronger
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Delta_Squad_Master Apr 1, 2020 +55
Yeah those 3 were probably the most memorable
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the_dayman Apr 1, 2020 +48
Only other major one I remember was mold, where you spread it to other people's comments and could use less letters throughout the day.
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LEERROOOOYYYYY Apr 1, 2020 +12
They should have made a coronavirus one with the same sort of template tbh, except if you have an old account it just locks you out after 3 days lol
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The_Grubby_One Apr 1, 2020 +5
Yeah, I'm thinking most people wouldn't appreciate that. Lotta people currently dying from that. You got about 22.3 years after this all ends before society will say it's funny.
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Uxt7 Apr 1, 2020 +28
I don't remember what last years was, other than that it sucked.
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ahappypoop Apr 1, 2020 +48
Was last years the one that was like a movie thing? Everybody submitted gifs or captions and voted on movie segments, and we slowly put together like a full movie. Another one was the circle thing where you could betray people or join their circle, and Robin (the chat room thing) was in between /r/TheButton and /r/place.
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sourcecodesurgeon Apr 1, 2020 +45
Ya it was a movie made from gifs. The community aspect of it fell through once a small group of influential (within listnook) people made a large enough discord coordinating votes in favor of the “story” that the leaders wanted.
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +28
> The community aspect of it fell through once a small group of influential (within listnook) people made a large enough discord coordinating votes in favor of the “story” that the leaders wanted. That's listnook in a Nutshell. The same power moderators control almost all of the listnook, while the admins do nothing...
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Troooop Apr 1, 2020 +16
That one spawned the best memes in my opinion. Those were the days. Rival factions shitposting about the others
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FunctionBuilt Apr 1, 2020 +4
I can't remember, did the button actually hit a limit or did listnook just end it after a bunch of people got like 60 seconds?
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petripeeduhpedro Apr 1, 2020 +11
It eventually ticked down. The idea was people kept pressing and resetting the timer to 60s, but eventually unique users who pressed ran out and the timer ticked down.
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beenoc Apr 1, 2020 +8
There was a group where people could basically donate their accounts to the cause and it would have a bot take over the account and push the button when the time got too low. However, they didn't actually check if all of the "donated" accounts were actually able to push the button, and eventually when there was like 2 seconds left the chosen account had already pushed it, which caused it to tick down to zero.
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ionised Apr 1, 2020 +43
I missed the great war, but was there for /r/place. This year, I shall be vigilant. Oh, great. It only works on New Listnook. I'm out.
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daaave33 Apr 1, 2020 +65
The color wars were the best. All those hats! [Better dead than orangered!](https://i.imgur.com/rxeVCtl.jpg) Place and The Button were fun too though.
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Xxdmonster5xX Apr 1, 2020 +7
I'm still very proud of my Periwinkle badge
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Sloth_King8 Apr 1, 2020 +135
Almost every Listnook April fools Day prank has been pretty good. r/place is probably the most memorable for me though.
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microcosmic5447 Apr 1, 2020 +27
/r/thebluecorner for life! God I loved Place. My wife and I spent every minute from when we got home that day until the board ended placing squares. Usually blue, but she also did some work on the RainbowRoad, and I helped organize and do work on a Starfleet insignia toward the top-right.
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xxfay6 Apr 1, 2020 +11
[I remember staying up until way too late helping on this.](https://i.imgur.com/JqbM1M9.jpg)
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Deivv Apr 1, 2020 +38
tart arrest gold disagreeable divide quicksand reply advise brave correct *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev/home)*
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KonaArabica Apr 1, 2020 +34
It happened on April fool's, so it's called a "prank" but really yeah it was just an event
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FireworkFuse Apr 1, 2020 +170
r/place is probably the best thing I've seen on listnook in the past like 6 and a half years.
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kfpswf Apr 1, 2020 +43
Honestly, I believe this too. I have the end result saved up and still try to scour it sometimes to see how human mind works. It is beauty.
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Emmx2039 Apr 1, 2020 +25
I still remember staying up late nights to defend the OSU! logo from attack. In the end we failed but what mattered is that we stood our ground. I think about that weekend a lot because I had just joined listnook at that point. Good times.
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muuurikuuuh Apr 1, 2020 +16
psh dirty OSU! players still trying to defend their too large logo smh
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Balorat Apr 1, 2020 +15
Yes r/place was awesome, it was the best defend the flag I've played since my youth
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pazur13 Apr 1, 2020 +38
/r/place was something incredible until bots took over and a bunch of groups just set up bots to constantly enforce their favourite brand's logo.
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needmoney90 Apr 1, 2020 +42
There was a whole political meta, where the controllers of various regions formed treaties and deals with their bordering regions. /r/Place definitely evolved past the point that individual people could make a dent, but the coordination involved was quite interesting to watch. The move from individual action to collective action (and interaction between collectives) was both inevitable and enlightening.
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FunctionBuilt Apr 1, 2020 +11
Place may be one the single greatest crowd sourcing experiments ever created. The coordination was unbelievable.
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RedPanther1 Apr 1, 2020 +13
Wasnt listnook mold an April fools thing once? I remember that pretty well.
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thinkB4WeSpeak Apr 1, 2020 +42
/r/place was a low-key war.
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MindyMindy87 Apr 1, 2020 +37
Was that the one where there was a huge blank canvas and everyone got to colour a pixel? It kept changing throughout the day? That was the most memorable for me (as a long-time lurker).
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mouthdrybutrunynose8 Apr 1, 2020 +23
Place was fucken sick
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skyskr4per Apr 1, 2020 +13
/r/thebutton was batshit insane.
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Stalker80085 Apr 1, 2020 +11
How could anything live up to r/place?
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TheInfiniteArc Apr 1, 2020 +17
r/place was amazing
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bolivar-shagnasty Apr 1, 2020 +2275
> To participate in r/Imposter visit ***new listnook***. [How 'bout no?](https://media.giphy.com/media/xiMUwBRn5RDLhzwO80/giphy.gif)
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Put_It_All_On_Blck Apr 1, 2020 +14
That was my thought, this is just a ploy to get users to use new listnook and official apps. Also I don't know if there is a privacy policy or anything specifically for this event, but does the premise spook anyone else? 'guess if you're talking to a real person or robot'?.. the dystopian future is going to be full of bots that actually mimic humans well, EA already tried to patent that for their multiplayer video games, and I'm sure social media giants are trying to make realistic bots, not Russian or Chinese spammers with one purpose, but bots you think are real people. I feel like the data they collect from this, is definitely going to be used, and I'm sure all of threads and comments already are, it's just rare to have a dialogue trying to figure out of the other person is human, unless you're talking to Ted Cruz or Zuck.
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Hawkbone Apr 1, 2020 +326
I decided to bite the bullet just to see if it might be worth it. Tab loaded for 30 seconds, closed it, clicked on random post to test, loaded in a single second. Yeah, there's absolutely no f****** way you can make me use that bloated piece of shit.
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Gonzobot Apr 2, 2020 +10
RIBBON IS NOT A VALID OR USEFUL INTERFACE FOR ANYTHING EVER sorry for yelling but goddamn I f****** hate ribbons
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +184
I've never even gotten far enough to care about performance cause it just looks like c***. Old listnook is way more simple and clean.
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lianodel Apr 1, 2020 +71
Even in list view, which is closer to old listnook, I hate how it all just blends together. I mean, there's the post title, and then below it, there's the sublistnook name, in the same color, just as bold, and in only a slightly smaller font. Who's idea was that? And that's list view. In card view, the feed only takes up like 30% of the page width, which is *awful*. And it's not like they haven't been working on this for ages.
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no_nick Apr 2, 2020 +3
Bruh, I created my first account years ago so that I could stay on the then old design. Old listnook still feels too bloated to me
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SporeFan19 Apr 1, 2020 +50
That's the real April Fools joke.
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vigilantcomicpenguin Apr 1, 2020 +30
I wish the admins would reveal that New Listnook was just an elaborate joke.
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Richmard Apr 1, 2020 +22
Someone read this comment and then decided to give money to listnook. The irony.
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +178
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TheMoogy Apr 1, 2020 +113
Hell yeah. I'd rather just not use Listnook than have to use New Listnook. Just isolate the code for everything related to new listnook and burn it as thoroughly as possible.
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PurpEL Apr 1, 2020 +76
F****** trash. Just recently when I'm on old Listnook and click a v.listnook link, it takes me to new Listnook. So dumb. I DONT WANT IT
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F_A_F Apr 1, 2020 +53
Yep. Clearer text. Infinite scrolling. Lack of 'Sunny Delight' theme. I'm sticking with Classic Listnook thanks...
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DonnQuixotes Apr 1, 2020 +41
We're being phased out, official stance is "tough luck, deal with it"
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Vryven Apr 1, 2020 +8
They're phasing listnook out. My official stance is if the new layout is ever forced, dealing with it is not on my menu. Nuking my profile and deleting my listnook bookmark(s) is the only item on it. I'm fairly certain I'm not the only one in this camp.
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tea_cup_cake Apr 1, 2020 +20
That's when we say dasvidania.
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JeannotVD Apr 1, 2020 +25
The day they force the new design is the day that I and many thousands at least will stop using the site.
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StanleyOpar Apr 1, 2020 +8
The day Listnook phases out third-party APIs is the day I quit Listnook
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beet111 Apr 1, 2020 +4
there's a chrome plugin that redirects all listnook links to old.listnook.com links also use RES to help with the v.listnook links
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borisvonboris Apr 1, 2020 +31
I'd rather guide my mom into my dad
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gman8 Apr 1, 2020 +6
That is quite a distaste for New Listnook. However; I would also rather guide your mother into your father than use New Listnook.
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Sukrim Apr 1, 2020 +74
It can't be that great to make me visit the eyesore that is new listnook.
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delta-snipes Apr 1, 2020 +22
it's not good at all, you just answer a question. it's the same question, and one of them is suppose to be generated from a bot. Bam, now you know what it's like.
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TheFlightlessPenguin Apr 1, 2020 +225
Is it just me or is this really dumb? Who wants to do the same question over and over. Plus everyone is pretending to be the imposter so it doesn’t exactly take skill
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Aaeder Apr 1, 2020 +24
Yeah, most people's flair is at 20% cause that's how much you can guess the imposter by clicking a random answer.
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SwenKa Apr 1, 2020 +19
Same question over and over, and of course anonymous people are going to f*** with it and just enter nonsense into the box. Edit: Apparently it also tracks who you deceive, so of course people are going to write nonsense.
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KindOfHardToSpell Apr 1, 2020 +4
I think it would be a lot more interesting if there was a pool of questions rather than the same one over and over...
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +140
listnook's new layout is garbage and made to pander to everyone who doesn't already use the site if it was made for current users it would feel good to use, instead it hurts the eyes, wastes space, and just all around loads slower and is shittier not using it until the old layout is gone, and then i'll just use it to tell you to go f*** yourselves as I delete my account
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chuckleoctopus Apr 2, 2020 +8
New layout typically has 1/8 of the content on a page as the old layout, meaning I have to scroll way more....
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rNewsModsAreNazis Apr 1, 2020 +194
Lol at Listnook acting like its still the cute, libertarian, nerdy, rage-comic filled bastion of free speech community it once was. F*** off with this. You are disrespecting Aaron Swartz every day you continue to associate this censored chinese propaganda machine shithole with his creation. Truly is sad.
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SmurfRockRune Apr 1, 2020 +327
This sounds really fun! Just like that one Jackbox game. [Can't wait to.. oh.](https://i.imgur.com/PMREw8l.png) Guess I don't get to play.
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haykam821 Apr 1, 2020 +20
[Use this link instead](https://gremlins-api.listnook.com/embed?nightmode=1)
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MNGrrl Apr 1, 2020 +71
> You don't have to be a d*** on April Fools, lmao, these guys proved it. They also changed their terms of service to own everything you post, explicitly tell you they can use it without any regard for morality, changed the site to require an e-mail address so they can mine all your personal data, then suffered a data breach that leaked all those e-mail addresses because your personal data isn't worth protecting (just selling). Then they went on a massive purge binge removing "objectionable" content, refuse to do anything about the blatant censorship and political manipulation on the larger subs... but people accept it because "Well, Listnook doesn't control the subs, they're just the site maintainers"... except they've been busted repeatedly deleting all the mods from certain subs and replacing them with puppet accounts, and let's not forget spez went in and manually edited other people's comments critical of him. You're right though: you don't have to be a d*** on April Fools. That's because they still got the other 364 days of the year to do it. Bittersweet irony that this year's April Fool's is about imposters; Especially since China now owns a significant portion of Listnook. The real joke is that there's people who still think free speech exists here.
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +99
>To participate in r/Imposter visit new listnook. disagree
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +127
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skyraider17 Apr 1, 2020 +16
Especially on a Listnook admin post, the top comment is always critical
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Fryboy11 Apr 1, 2020 +16
I can't tell, is making us use the new design a dickmove or not?
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ItsRainbow Apr 1, 2020 +26
~~Place was better though~~
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Mila_Prime Apr 1, 2020 +5
Jokes on you, they are dicks on their spare time!
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +152
This looks like Google's captcha which actually trains their AI network
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +35
Well yes, because why should they put any work in, when they can just do an AI thing, disguise it as a quirky April fools thing and trick the community into doing the work for them?
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KoryMac Apr 2, 2020 +8
https://www.techradar.com/news/captcha-if-you-can-how-youve-been-training-ai-for-years-without-realising-it
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phantuba Apr 1, 2020 +166
So my understanding is that people who hate both the listnook redesign and the official listnook app won't be able to participate? Seems kinda shitty.
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Alexanderjac42 Apr 1, 2020 +43
This gets boring really quickly when every round it’s the same question
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +217
> To participate in r/Imposter visit new listnook. Nope. This game is not enough to pull me into using that... thing.
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__Geralt Apr 1, 2020 +186
this is to tran a neural network, isn't it
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MaximumGaming5o Apr 1, 2020 +156
> To participate in r/Imposter visit new listnook. Ehhh... I'm good.
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Zenblend Apr 1, 2020 +119
>Userbase, train this bot-detection AI for us.
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CaptainPedge Apr 1, 2020 +27
>Userbase, train this ~~bot-detection~~ human impersonation AI for us. FTFY
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Moist-Step Apr 1, 2020 +283
Thanks Listnook. Even though we are going through a bad time, it doesnt mean we still cant have a good laugh! Stay safe
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Slug_Judge Apr 1, 2020 +35
I will not be participating, because like many others here I detest the “new listnook”. You will not get me to use that “feature”, I would sooner stop using this site altogether.
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FutureRocker Apr 1, 2020 +107
Glad there’s still an April Fool’s this year! I welcome any distraction and any harmless practical joke that isn’t about the coronavirus...
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Pemburuh_Itu Apr 1, 2020 +83
This strikes me as an AI test....
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SpartanHamster9 Apr 1, 2020 +14
It is, it's also to get people to use new listnook.
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alsomdude2 Apr 1, 2020 +51
Try and make me use NEW LISTNOOK? Great April fools joke guys.
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tamewraith Apr 1, 2020 +242
they really trynna make us use new listnook LOL
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quaderrordemonstand Apr 1, 2020 +31
I think thats the 'joke' part of this April fool
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Bijzettafeltje Apr 1, 2020 +85
***Listnook is Fun*** gang!
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IAMA_Plumber-AMA Apr 1, 2020 +22
Didn't they recently have to change their name to "RIF is Fun" because Listnook's legal team got all huffy that they had the word "listnook" in their app's title?
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +40
If it ain't in the public API then f*** it! RiF ride or die!
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NJ-Cannabis Apr 1, 2020 +115
I have to switch over to the new listnook to use this? Not cool. Not cool.
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Lavatis Apr 1, 2020 +24
not gonna get me to use new listnook beyond the couple of minutes I just did. new listnook is an abomination. whoever decided reducing information density was a good idea deserves a good talking to.
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SShonix Apr 1, 2020 +13
So you want us to train your bots for you that may be used against us in the near future? No
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A_WILD_CUNT_APPEARED Apr 1, 2020 +145
I'd rather delete my account than use new listnook
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smashedshanky Apr 1, 2020 +3
If this is to crowdsource AI training, everyone should post “botty” answers so the AI overfits on that specific domain and puts aside actual human comments as not in domain...........
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r00t1 Apr 1, 2020 +130
New listnook f****** sucks - is that the joke
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OfficialDodoAirlines Apr 1, 2020 +61
Happy April fools. Who’s playing Animal Crossing New Horizons during the quarantine?
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FyreWulff Apr 1, 2020 +190
>requires new listnook no
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +26
yeah okay admins, just datamine us for your pet RNN project and call it a joke rofaljao the question is stupid by the way. you guys are bunch of lame-o's I swear...
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poisontongue Apr 1, 2020 +16
I thought the imposters were the admins pretending to give a f*** about the site or anyone on it, like with this hypocritical, pretentious, Anti-Evil Team shit and banning supportive sublistnooks while simultaneously harassing people with shitty crisis hotline numbers. All an illusion. Come on guys, you are a big part of these strange, difficult times. Ask Steve. In that vein, I suppose r/Imposter is the *perfect* project for this year.
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[deleted] Apr 1, 2020 +49
So I'm just getting Turing tested now
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Anon048 Apr 1, 2020 +38
>To participate in r/Imposter visit new listnook. Nah.
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[deleted] Apr 2, 2020 +7
Hey, what do you think about /r/againsthatesublistnooks coordinating on their private discord server to spam child p********** on subs to get them banned? Listnook is apparently doing nothing about that despite being aware of it for a long time. https://streamable.com/vx9s9 Sounds like it is FBI time.
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