Gonna put one in for Vidkun Quisling, who handed all of Norway's defense plans over to the Germans in WW2 in exchange for being made governor of the territory
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ATSOAS87Mar 31, 2026
+1026
>The term quisling has become a word for "collaborator" or "traitor" in English and Scandinavian languages.
Damn
1026
LolthienTooApr 1, 2026
+185
Much like a 'Benedict Arnold' in the United States.
185
GodOfGirthhMar 31, 2026
+922
Jesus christ this is crazy. The kind of information I'm coming across after making this post, thanks for this
922
LombardynApr 1, 2026
+448
To get an even better image of just how much he and his co-conspirators were hated: the death penalty had been abolished in Norway. They reintroduced it, executed them, and abolished it again.
448
itsacalamityApr 1, 2026
+85
daaaaaaaaaaaamn
85
ShoddyInitiative2637Apr 1, 2026
+16
That's based af.
Rules are fine for general cases, but sometimes exceptions have to be made.
16
Thrown2FarOut7329Mar 31, 2026
+610
Yes, "Jesus Christ" is another good and timely example. Judas' betrayal of Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane. It was so famous that we now have the term "Judas" as a name for a betryaer.
610
FruitOvTheGloomMar 31, 2026
+267
He was an absolute piece of shit, even in death. His last words were, "I'm convicted unfairly and I die innocent." He had no remorse for what he did. I'm glad his health suffered after being subjected to a ton of medical procedures during his trial.
267
Wittyname0Apr 1, 2026
+97
And even the Nazis really weren't keen on him, but he was the only politician from Norway with even a bit of sway who was willing to work with them. Its like if America got occupied and the only one they could get to run the puppet government was Ted Cruz
97
RedNewzzMar 31, 2026
+7561
Bystander who prevented President Ford from being assassinated. He tried to avoid the spotlight and reporters wanting no praise for his heroic or attention.
The press dug in anyway, outed him as a gay man, he was ostracized by his family and community for it and wound up killing himself.
All for saving the President from a woman with a gun.
7561
Proof-Highway1075Apr 1, 2026
+2379
I just read about [Oliver Sipple](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Sipple?wprov=sfti1#) on Wikipedia. Not only was he outed by the media, but the people that outed him to the media in the first place were *gay activists*, Harvey Milk being one of the two people to inform the media. As a gay man, I’m fairly disgusted that he was outed as a political move by gay activists.
2379
biteyfish98Apr 1, 2026
+700
Ugh, just read the page.
If Milk wanted to take a stand (which he clearly had been doing, and all applause for that), that’s up to him. It was not for him to speak out about Sipple’s life and orientation. He willingly sacrificed his friend to the cause, and with friends like those…😢😡
700
ComradeRKApr 1, 2026
+303
Certainly paints Harvey Milk in a different light, doesn’t it? Haven’t really thought about him the same way since learning that.
303
sanct111Apr 1, 2026
+47
We are talking about the guy who had a relationship with a teenager when he was in his 30s right?
47
SiPhoenixApr 1, 2026
+28
Activists tend to be people very hight in disagreeableness (personality trait) meaning they are willing to stand out, willing/want to be confrontational and willing/want to fight. It means they are more likely to be assholes. Even it they are fighting for something you agree with. Its important to recognize that.
28
MikeyTheGuyApr 1, 2026
+102
I'm pretty sure there are multiple instances of Harvey Milk being a shady and gross person.
102
ArtInTechApr 1, 2026
+337
Reminds me of Alan Turing. Saved countless lives, was persecuted for being gay, died by his own hand.
337
Dap-ahaApr 1, 2026
+72
Lets not forget the court ordered chemical castration that was orchestrated, without apology, by the system he had directly saved
72
jendet010Apr 1, 2026
+511
All that saving Ford? It wasn’t Lincoln or Kennedy.
All kidding aside, I was extremely moved by the eulogy he wrote for Carter before he died that his son delivered almost 20 years later. Their friendship was something to admire.
511
DragishawkApr 1, 2026
+162
The woman who tried to kill Ford was a member of the Manson Family, if I recall correctly.
162
MidnightOwl01Apr 1, 2026
+59
There were actually two attempts on Ford during the month of September 1975. I believe the one the OP is referring to was by Sarah Jane Moore in San Francisco on September 22, 1975. The one by Fromme was in Sacramento on September 5, 1975.
59
coreychamaApr 1, 2026
+44
You say "was", but she is in fact both still alive and admits to, on some level, still having faith in Manson's ideas.
44
counterfitsterApr 1, 2026
+57
Squeaky Fromme
57
CranhamorBlakelyApr 1, 2026
+51
She is…difficult
51
biteyfish98Apr 1, 2026
+90
I never knew this, how absolutely awful for him. 😭
90
AphroditeFlowerMar 31, 2026
+10271
Nestle lying to breastfeeding African mothers that formula is better, once they couldn’t get access to said formula, their babies starved to death. Thousands and thousands of children died in the aftermath of this.
10271
Prudent_Ad3384Mar 31, 2026
+4255
If I recall correctly, the free trials lasted just long enough to prevent the lactation process, forcing them to rely on the formula.
If that isn’t enough, lots of babies died because the water used with the formula wasn’t clean.
4255
YanicPolitikApr 1, 2026
+975
jfc that's diabolical
975
CoygonApr 1, 2026
+601
There's a reason Nestlé is considered one of the most anti-human corporations on Earth. Several dozen reasons, in fact, and probably hundreds.
601
captainconwayApr 1, 2026
+74
r/FuckNestle
74
NinjaBreadManOOApr 1, 2026
+574
Iirc it caused deaths because the water had issues but also because after nestle cut them off a lot of the mothers had to water it down further to try and stretch out what was left resulting in malnutrition.
So it was even slower, which gave nestle even more time to fix it.
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FreyaAndMeApr 1, 2026
+154
I already knew all of this but every time I read it afresh I ascend to new levels of rage. I hope Hell exists for every single person involved in any and every part of this cruelty.
154
jedifyApr 1, 2026
+308
Also they had salespeople **dressed as nurses** hanging around hospitals to get the samples to new mothers.
308
Ok-Bullfrog6394Apr 1, 2026
+51
As a new mom that makes my blood boil. Imagine someone posing as care while quietly pushing products that could harm your baby. If that were you you would feel betrayed and furious we let marketing into the most vulnerable rooms of our lives.
51
Chiron17Apr 1, 2026
+117
Maybe they should have bought Nestle bottled water? /s
F*** Nestle
117
ArtInTechApr 1, 2026
+81
r/fuckNestle
81
gnomechompskeyApr 1, 2026
+1843
Even "thousands and thousands" is quite the understatement. It’s hundreds of thousands of infant deaths *per year* every year for several decades. They killed **millions** with their intentional strategy of making the world’s poorest and most vulnerable people utterly dependent on their product to survive.
In a 2018 study, the [National Bureau of Economic Research ](https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w24452/w24452.pdf)(NBER) estimated that 10,870,000 infants had died between 1960 and 2015 as a result of Nestlé baby formula used by "mothers \[in low and middle-income countries\] without clean water sources", with deaths peaking at 212,000 in 1981. It was a 27% increase in infant mortality among impacted communities directly attributable to the formula scheme.
1843
FluidSynergyApr 1, 2026
+160
I don't think I've ever had the numbers laid out for me like this. That is unimaginably horrible.
160
FlyingPiranhaApr 1, 2026
+367
There isn't a hell deep enough, dark enough, or painful enough for these inhuman monsters.
367
Snekboi6996Apr 1, 2026
+199
This is how you know there is no justice in the world.
199
MyGhostCoach_amaApr 1, 2026
+58
Are there any follow up studies? My brain literally couldn't comprehend that any company may be responsible for 10 million deaths (!!!!) and still be able to do business. Even if the study was widely off by a 1000 % and it was "only" one million it would still be a grave crime against humanity. I knew that Nestle is f****** with water supplies but I didn't know they were on the Hitler level. Wtf? How is this the first time I am learning about this?
58
frshprince247Apr 1, 2026
+49
Unfortunately, being involved in that many deaths doesn't disqualify a business. Otherwise a lot of huge German companies would not be around anymore... Actually most of them wouldn't
49
LumenDomimusApr 1, 2026
+243
Monsters.
243
LittleBlagApr 1, 2026
+37
What was the purpose? Getting people dependent on your product who are too poor to buy doesn’t seem like a smart business strategy even if you ignore the obvious and egregious moral failing. I’ve never really understood why they did it
37
CoffeePotProphetApr 1, 2026
+12
A lot of the initial money was from ngos and govt programs. They could also offload old/bad product with no repercussions
12
FlowerhandsApr 1, 2026
+13
Forcing the UN and NGOs to buy formula for the mothers who can't afford it after you sabotaged them breastfeeding, making them dependent on charities purchasing formula for them.
13
lewd_robotApr 1, 2026
+30
The biggest betrayal is the modern "legal" system that still allows this kind of evil to this very day. Every day, constantly, all over the world, this kind of thing is happening. And the wealthy people causing it use their power to avoid justice, and that is a betrayal of the highest order.
30
CactusCaitApr 1, 2026
+457
Globally, investigations found that Nestlé sales representatives were presented in ways that made them appear to be nurses or medical advisors, leading mothers to believe they were receiving clinical guidance when it was actually marketing. This and similar practices prompted the adoption of the World Health Organization’s International Code of Marketing of Breast-milk Substitutes (1981), which prohibits tactics such as impersonating healthcare workers, distributing free samples in many settings, and directly marketing in ways that undermine breastfeeding.
457
rocketseekerApr 1, 2026
+164
I have a newfound form of hate I did not belive to be possible
164
ArtInTechApr 1, 2026
+74
r/fuckNestle
74
hilfigertoutMar 31, 2026
+644
Yeah this one is definitely up there. F*** Nestle.
644
ChampionshipUpper720Apr 1, 2026
+456
But were the shareholders ok?
456
digidestineApr 1, 2026
+305
Please God, someone think of the billionaires.
305
Croceyes2Apr 1, 2026
+63
Supreme, they made 1.3 cents each!
63
lordassfucksApr 1, 2026
+226
How is this company still around. The leadership of this company should also be in prison. If they are in charge, they are responsible for the actions do their company
226
NakedJakedApr 1, 2026
+175
Because they make money. Under capitalism, if putting babies in blenders was profitable, we’d see it daily.
175
cunt_no_sugarApr 1, 2026
+88
/r/fucknestle
88
lil_timmzyApr 1, 2026
+91
Another reason to hate the world.
91
redcardinaltApr 1, 2026
+66
At least there are enough good people out there to recognize that things suck. It means a lot.
66
DragishawkMar 31, 2026
+4189
Vidkun Quisling's assistance of the Nazis with conquering and occupying Norway during World War II. This guy was so hated by his countrymen that after the Nazis were kicked out, the Norwegians reinstituted the death penalty, just for him. Even now, Quisling's name is synonymous with "traitor."
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SnurrepiperierMar 31, 2026
+974
The part about reinstituting the death penalty is not quite correct. While before the war the last execution in Norway took place in 1876, the law still allowed for capital punishment for serious military crimes, such as treason, in times of war. Also it was not only Quisling. In all 24 Norwegians, 1 Dane and 13 Germans were executed by fireing squad between 1945 and 1948. Of note are the notorious Nazi collaberator and criminal Henry Rinnan and his gang.
Capital punishment was finally officially abolished for all crimes in 1979, also those commited in times of war.
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Initial-Instance-719Mar 31, 2026
+182
Capital punishment. No offense, im just an idiot who used to say anticlimatic and i wish someone would have corrected me sooner.
182
purplestgiraffeMar 31, 2026
+158
Is THAT where the term Quisling comes from, THANK YOU
158
atticdoorMar 31, 2026
+83
You couldn't contrive a better word for traitor than "quisling". It just sounds right.
83
The_CanadianMar 31, 2026
+63
Yep. The reference in World War Z always makes me chuckle.
63
EkatheassholemacawApr 1, 2026
+16
Thank you, that's where I remember the word from, I was trying to remember. Still my favorite audiobook ever, they absolutely nailed the cast
16
HighFlyingLuchadorMar 31, 2026
+121
Lmao fave part is he was so confident that history would remember him as a brave hero, he said so in his last days
121
slice_of_piMar 31, 2026
+6420
Ephialtes.
Imagine betraying people so hard that two thousand years later, your name **means** "nightmare" in that language.
6420
belisssssMar 31, 2026
+1948
The way he was portrayed in that movie makes it even more hilarious. Try to imagine how you would feel if you knew that people would portray you as a severely disfigured cripple thousands of years later
1948
ro536udMar 31, 2026
+705
lol his character in the movie 300 was wild
705
NakedJakedApr 1, 2026
+333
The whole movie and graphic novel are absurd, ahistorical, and definitely wild.
333
SuspiciouslySuspect2Apr 1, 2026
+512
No, in fact it was actually *perfectly* historical:
That's exactly how a wounded Spartan would retell a battle where we was the only survivor.
512
AidianApr 1, 2026
+125
See also: *Roadhouse*
Imagine an old, drunk Dalton telling old (maybe *slightly* embellished) bouncer stories to someone half off their barstool at 4am and it’s a perfectly accurate depiction.
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shoulda-known-betterMar 31, 2026
+376
That's the dude who sold out in 300 right!? The Hunchback
376
dilqnchoMar 31, 2026
+524
D*** move on his part but it's doubtful he actually changed anything. The Greeks weren't winning that anyway. And it wasn't even that secret of a pass: there had been other battles fought there, tons of people from the region likely knew about that route, including some who were fighting for the Persians.
Leonidas himself expected the side passage to be used, that's why he positioned men there.
524
SlightlyUprightMar 31, 2026
+225
It wasnt as if he was betraying old friends either. The reason Empires rose and fell was because life sucked under one or the other. The ruling class really only had anything to lose. Everyone else was subjugation, over taxed and marginalized. A new ruler may have been preferable or at least they f*** shit up for the folks with their boot on your head.
225
NakedJakedApr 1, 2026
+150
Honestly, the Persians treated there subjects far better than the Spartans treated the Helots. The wolf that young Leonidas has to kill in the movie to become a man or whatever was, in real life, a Helot slave a young Spartan would have to kill.
150
SlightlyUprightApr 1, 2026
+104
It sounds a lot cooler to say "I killed a wolf" than "a scared starving slave". Kinda like "300 Spartan Last stand" rather than, "300 of us and maybe another 6700 Thebans, Thespians and Helots"
The Persians were indeed more progressive
104
Resident_Course_3342Mar 31, 2026
+174
The Spartans shouldn't get to talk shit about Ephialtes when they sided with the Persians in the 2nd Peloponnesian war and ended the Greek golden age.
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pro-bidetus-rasputinApr 1, 2026
+51
What are you talking about? The war was fought between Athens and allies vs Sparta and allies.
The Persians never fought in the war, but they financed Sparta's fleet(s), in exchange for control of the Athenian-lead Greek city states in Asia minor.
You could say that Sparta would have never won the war was it not for Persian gold.
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Creative-Ad-9535Apr 1, 2026
+36
If you’re going to look at Greek history, it’s filled with betrayals far more consequential than Thermopylae. Alcibiades changed sides numerous times, though you could argue it was because he kept getting betrayed himself by the people he was helping. He’s just an extreme example, but there are lots of stories of ostracized hero turncoats, all that stuff is a fun read
36
Visual_Cauliflower92Mar 31, 2026
+3641
Alan Turing. Genius who helped crack The Enigma Code. Treated poorly for the rest of his life.
3641
itsatumbleweedMar 31, 2026
+2213
Poorly is an understatement. He was chemically castrated by the British government for being gay and subsequently killed himself.
2213
Harold-The-BarrelApr 1, 2026
+167
His history is why I dont take posthumous pardons seriously.
“Oops. We’re sorry.”
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Environmental-Bus9Mar 31, 2026
+475
There's good evidence he was assassinated and that suicide was just a cover.
475
real_picklejuiceMar 31, 2026
+186
I’ve never heard this. Do you have a source?
186
cCowgirlApr 1, 2026
+182
So I got curious and did a quick google. Best I found was this, which was the request for the inquest in 2013. Choice excerpt from the call for inquiry:
[“Although there is no evidence that Turing was murdered by state agents, the fact that this possibility has never been investigated is a major failing. The original inquest into his death was perfunctory and inadequate. Although it is said that he died from eating an apple laced with cyanide, the allegedly fatal apple was never tested for cyanide. A new inquiry is long overdue, even if only to dispel any doubts about the true cause of his death.”](https://petertatchellfoundation.org/alan-turing-was-he-murdered-by-the-security-services/)
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BuzzfeedOfficialMar 31, 2026
+136
They got him already. Don't ask questions
136
DonIncandenzaApr 1, 2026
+59
Buzz feed Quiz: 10 Questions to Figure Out if You’ve been Assassinated.
59
FreshLocation7827Apr 1, 2026
+24
Question 1: Are you dead?
24
HalfForeign6735Mar 31, 2026
+210
"umm, you did help us crack the German enigma code, which shortened the war and saved a lot of lives. But you like to play with dudes during your free time, and we can't have that. He's an injection to suppress those thoughts"
210
morbihannMar 31, 2026
+221
His confributions to mathematics are enormous. And absolue disgusting betrayal by his own countty.
221
Mito_03Mar 31, 2026
+72
I hoped when he died he knew to himself that he would one day go down in history for the genius he was
72
GodOfGirthhMar 31, 2026
+151
The movie broke me.
151
WrongWangSorryMar 31, 2026
+324
Still a great movie, Wimbledon Tennismatch is a great actor
324
dirtyforkerMar 31, 2026
+177
Do you mean Benadryl Cumberquat?
177
Sailboat_fuelMar 31, 2026
+102
Bandersnatch Cucumberpatch?
102
ZedekiahCromwellMar 31, 2026
+70
Benedictine Cumberbund, put some respect on the name.
70
1PerpetuallyAnxiousMar 31, 2026
+65
Badminton Cockshuttle, added a little bit of grace to the name.
65
Guilty-Historian7440Mar 31, 2026
+70
Yes Bumblebee Cabbagepatch did a fine ass job
70
AlienBogeysMar 31, 2026
+61
I hate that I recognize that name
61
WrongWangSorryMar 31, 2026
+24
He also controlled the Eye of Avocado
24
Far-Obligation4055Mar 31, 2026
+49
I really like Bisquick Bundlesnitch too, and he's especially good in this film.
49
FiorinasFuryMar 31, 2026
+53
I've heard the historical information the film accurately portrayed was "There was definitely a man named Alan Turing, and there was a war in Europe."
53
ModusPwninsMar 31, 2026
+27
Good movie, but a lot of the stuff in it was fictionalized. The Coventry bit in particular.
27
Alive-Map-4085Apr 1, 2026
+30
The movie used the common trope of autistic idiot savant who is kind of an a******.
By all accounts Turing was actually a super kind dude, which makes it all even worse.
30
LowkeyExplorerrMar 31, 2026
+4705
Et tu, Brute?
4705
GodOfGirthhMar 31, 2026
+521
Classic.
521
Robert_Baratheon__Mar 31, 2026
+162
It’s the most famous but is it the biggest betrayal? I think that Brutus would consider Caesar to have betrayed them and Rome and he would have felt he was doing his duty to Rome. I think murders do personal gain would be more of a betrayal and there’s plenty of examples of brothers, families, friends etc doing that for power, women, wealth etc…
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dramatic_utMar 31, 2026
+117
I think it is considered as an ultimate betrayal because Caesar trusted him and thought of him as his close friend and also was his benefactor. And it overshadows whatever ideas Brutus had himself.
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kill-99Mar 31, 2026
+83
To me to you brutus
83
farseenMar 31, 2026
+2752
Internal documents and investigative reporting revealed that Exxon's own scientists conducted sophisticated climate research as far back as the late 1970s and 1980s, producing findings that accurately predicted global warming from fossil fuel emissions.
Rather than making this research public, Exxon pivoted in the 1990s to funding climate denial campaigns, lobbying against climate regulations, and publicly casting doubt on the scientific consensus, even while internally acknowledging the risks their own research had identified.
My kids are now basically f*cked.
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Proof-Highway1075Apr 1, 2026
+292
Scientists had already made all the discoveries and done all the science and explained all the mechanisms a whole century prior even. There’s a newspaper article from some time in the 1800s that I’ve seen on listnook before. I can’t find that specific article, but [here is a link](https://theconversation.com/scientists-understood-physics-of-climate-change-in-the-1800s-thanks-to-a-woman-named-eunice-foote-164687) to a modern article talking about all the discoveries related to climate change in the 19th century. They knew about it for a century and then started funding climate change denial. The more you look into the failures with regard to climate change, the worse they get.
292
DeliciousPangolinApr 1, 2026
+172
Carl Sagan's Cosmos series (which was filmed in '79) goes on at length about global warming being on par with nuclear war as an existential threat to the future of the earth. Kind of weird how everyone pretends we just discovered it in the '90s or 2000s. The only thing that changed in the 2000s is that we actually got to the point of doing something about it, and suddenly the energy companies freaked out and started hysterically manufacturing propaganda to justify abandoning the Kyoto Accord.
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Persimmon-MissionApr 1, 2026
+32
It was discovered in the Late 1990’s-2000’s because that’s when the internet allowed the average person access to this information at the click of a mouse.
It was much easier back then to shape the narrative of information through newspapers and local news. They didn’t have 24 hour news at that time. Local news and newspaper was most people’s only information source.
This was the dawn of families being able to afford personal PC’s for their home and widespread adoption of the internet at home.
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SimonArgentMar 31, 2026
+369
This is the biggest betrayal of all.
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justtosendamassageApr 1, 2026
+360
Imagine dooming your entire planet and all the species on it just to be a bit richer. Imagine how devoid of a soul you’d have to be
Makes me feel something I really don’t think I’ve ever felt before
360
scumrat_mugginsApr 1, 2026
+181
It gets worse if you extrapolate it out a bit. They could’ve pivoted into developing cleaner means of energy production when they first found out, but they opted to lie because it was cheaper. Imagine if by like, the late 90s or early 2000s if the giant energy and oil corps were all like, renewable and clean. Like, what the f***, man. We could’ve stopped this
181
NakedJakedApr 1, 2026
+49
It should make you angry.
49
Ambitious_Studio_800Apr 1, 2026
+31
Petroleum papers…so angry reading it, difficult to finish!
31
CocaCholaMar 31, 2026
+4276
the tuskegee syphilis study is one of the worst betrayals imo.
from 1932 to 1972, the u.s. public health service told a group of poor black men they were getting free treatment for “bad blood.” they weren’t. they had syphilis, and the whole point was to watch what happened if it went untreated.
penicillin became a cure in the 40s. they still didn’t treat them. they even stopped some of them from getting it elsewhere.
these men trusted doctors and the government, kept showing up thinking they were being helped, while they were literally being studied as they got sicker.
went on for 40 years. only stopped bc it got exposed.
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MrDrProfessorPatrckMar 31, 2026
+1053
The sad part is the role this and so many other deceptions just like this one has done to communities and their trust in medicine and science. I can name a couple countries right off the bat where people were dosed with something different than what they consented to (with the backing of their gov, of course) and those communities are afraid of vaccines to this day. I understand their fear and it’s a frustrating situation.
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dreadpiraterMar 31, 2026
+609
I dated a black woman who was militantly opposed to birth control because she didn't trust doctors not to do reproductive experiments on black women even in 2022.
My white ass began that conversation thinking she was nuts and ended that conversation side eyeing my own doctor from here on out.
I still think it's unlikely planned parenthood was going to dose her with something bad they didn't give to white clients, too, but the fact that I say 'unlikely' instead of 'impossible' is terrifying.
609
jalk0Apr 1, 2026
+165
My great grandma is Indigenous and was pregnant with my grandma while she was unwed and 19. She placed my grandma for adoption in the 1940’s and never had more children, but carried around my grandmas infirmary pillow for the rest of her life. In Canada, Indigenous women were frequently sterilized without their knowledge, which my family believes is what happened to my great grandma as it happened to many other Indigenous women in the same hospital
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beaniebee11Apr 1, 2026
+44
God how devastating, she probably gave that first child up believing she'd have another chance later and that was stolen from her.
Can I ask how it came about that you know about your great grandmother if your grandmother was given up for adoption? Did they reconnect? My mother was adopted so adoption stories interest me.
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jalk0Apr 1, 2026
+31
We did reconnect! We found her adoption file and tracked down her birth family. Unfortunately my great grandma passed a few years before we found her, but we became close with her brother and his wife who have now unfortunately passed as well. We’ve also become very close with a lot of our more distant family members, who knew we came from a MASSIVE Indigenous family lol! We inherited a bunch of my great grandmas things, and her friend actually gave my grandma her infirmary pillow because it was left at his house. He’s the one who told us that she carried it with her everywhere. Her and my grandma are also IDENTICAL! It’s a very bittersweet story
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Pame_in_redditApr 1, 2026
+244
I used to think that people in the USA were conspiracy nuts, but after learning of SEVERAL experiments made by the US government or X pharmaceutic company, I understand the lack of trust.
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DryBopMar 31, 2026
+401
I think most antivax people are dumb. However, indigenous or black antivax people are just trusting history. God what a disservice we’ve done to so many.
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MrDrProfessorPatrckMar 31, 2026
+95
My exact thoughts. It ends up being a mess we have to deal with collectively.
95
danceswithtreeMar 31, 2026
+358
They were given "free burial services" so they could perform an autopsy and collect tissue specimens after they died.
358
cherrygemgemMar 31, 2026
+89
I never knew that part of it. That's just horrific.
89
some_person_guyMar 31, 2026
+244
They didn't even tell them they had syphilis either. What's worse is that their wives contracted it, and then their children contracted congenitally.
244
JustSomeone3131Mar 31, 2026
+281
This and other medical mistreatment of black Americans is discussed in Harriet Washington’s [Medical Apartheid](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_Apartheid?wprov=sfti1#), which I can’t recommend enough.
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Sailboat_fuelMar 31, 2026
+124
Just wanna add that this book was pretty traumatic to read. I literal had J Marion Sims nightmares for about six months and had to change my anxiety meds after I finished the book.
Worth it, yes. And entirely true. But very difficult truth.
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JustSomeone3131Mar 31, 2026
+42
True, people should know what they’re getting into if they choose to read it
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Citadel_97EMar 31, 2026
+179
Our country has been evil, every country has I think.
This is just the top three evil things.
It wasn’t a heat of moment “yeah, fire bomb the buss full of nuns and one terrorist,” type thing.
This was a deliberate, planned, and on going type thing.
Every day after the invention of a cure, they could could have said “by God, we’ve got to get these men their penicillin,” and the decision was made to let them deteriorate into sickness and madness.
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notabot_123Mar 31, 2026
+157
makes you think - what’s going on right now that we’ll learn 20-50yrs from now! What new Epstein islands or medical malpractices and discrimination will come to light years later! Truly scary!
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ragdoll1022Mar 31, 2026
+54
Like the kidnapping and forced assimilation of native children, often in, literally, deadly accommodations. Governments are evil.
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Citadel_97EMar 31, 2026
+16
I dated a native girl when I was living in Arizona, her grandmother had crazy stories. She was extremely skeptical of me being a soldier.
I always wanted to learn that language dude, if I could just quit work, I would try and study Diné for sure.
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WalruzsMar 31, 2026
+822
I think Francisco Pizarro's treatment of the Incan emperor (Atahualpa) was pretty awful. He invited the emperor to a feast and then ambushed him when he arrived. They held the emperor for ransom and slaughtered thousands of unarmed Incan warriors. When the Inca fulfilled the ransom, they executed Atahualpa anyway.
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BearizzleMcKizzleApr 1, 2026
+51
Anyone interested in this should check out the Fall of Civilizations podcast about the Inca
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ResponsibleAnt9496Apr 1, 2026
+191
They just covered this on The Rest is History podcast and the whole thing was insane! Pizarro had only a couple hundred men and still was able to divide and conquer that huge empire just by an insane combination of duplicity, better technology and luck.
Wild how the Spanish would read some decree to the Indians demanding they accept God or else know that they’re going to be murdered and that the murder doesn’t count as a sin towards the Spaniard committing the murder since they refuse to accept god…even though these Indians obviously can’t speak Spanish! F****** vile behavior and yet they seemingly always read that decree because although they were fine with genocide they were real sticklers for the law.
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Salt-Quiet8201Mar 31, 2026
+1816
A parent abusing their children.
I think that’s the biggest betrayal.
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GodOfGirthhMar 31, 2026
+215
Vile. Is the word I think of in this situation. It's heartbreaking.
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Minami_KoMar 31, 2026
+109
thank you,
yes it is
especially when they lie to you
\-title says human history,
but I would say lots lots of unheard tragedies and by tragedy I mean abuse or murder, of people who were your schoolmates or anything but were invisible 😞
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CorInHellMar 31, 2026
+54
Can confirm. Fucks you up for life if you are made to believe your once loving parents now don't like you anymore and only tolerate your existence because they have to.
Still in therapy, still on meds, still traumatized 20 years later...
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Theyletfly82Apr 1, 2026
+88
Anti vax King of fuckwits Andrew Wakefield. One fraudulent academic paper of a study of 12 kids at a birthday party for a single afternoon and he betrayed the world. And he did it for money.
He's a mass murderer
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ToonsBrianMar 31, 2026
+1564
My family’s first dog was awesome. Just a fun spirit her whole life. She wasn’t allowed on the couch but my wife’s cat was. She had a full understanding of this rule and never once violated it unless we brought her up with us. Literally the best dog.
So when the cat came in for snuggles and she didn’t get any at all that day…THAT was history’s biggest betrayal. And she let me know. By walking across the room, staring me right on the eye and peeing all over the carpet.
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BartlesonCongressWA5Mar 31, 2026
+241
You did her dirty Brian!
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PledgeofmalfeasanceApr 1, 2026
+64
🎼 *He had it coming!* 🎶
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Warlord53104Mar 31, 2026
+281
Mir Jafar at the battle of Plassey(1757)
It was the Nawab of Bengal vs the East India Company.The nawab heavily outnumbered the EIC forces,but his general Jafar betrayed him and many of the nawab's forces switched sides.
This led to the first ever EIC victory on Indian soil.They got Bengal and thus it started the domino effect that led to the colonialisation of India.
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Severe_Sky1135Apr 1, 2026
+80
I mean Indian history is absolutely loaded with such treacherous traitors. Every empire- Sikhs, Marathas, Awadh, Mysore, Jhansi and countless others. It was our own men who sold their country to the British. If you read about what the britishers did to the rightful heirs of these kingdoms- Maharaja Duleep Singh, Damodar Rao, Nana Saheb Peshwa, Tipu sultans sons, the horrors inflicted on them were heartbreaking.
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Quick-Rip-5776Apr 1, 2026
+29
Under 5 years of the EIC, the population of Bengal fell from 30 million to 20 million. The word “loot” is a loanword from Hindi.
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theVastlycreativeMar 31, 2026
+145
There’s a lot of talk about infamous WWII traitors, but I don’t see Phillipe Pétain amongst them. Once hailed as the hero of Verdun during the First World War, Philippe Pétain would later become one of the greatest traitors in French history. As head of the Vichy regime after France’s defeat in 1940, Pétain chose not merely to accept German occupation, but to actively collaborate with Adolf Hitler and the Nazi government. Under his leadership, the French state assisted in the persecution and deportation of Jews, suppressed political dissent, censored the press, and dismantled the republican ideals of liberty, equality, and fraternity that had long defined the nation. He turned into a symbol of French liberation, freedom, and national identity to a traitorous, discredited old man who died in solitary confinement.
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MilocoboMar 31, 2026
+893
WWII was full of them. Germany betrayed its promises to its neighbors, Russia betrayed Germanies enemies for a slice of Poland, Germany betrayed Russia, Italy betrayed Germany, Germany betrayed Italy, Britain betrayed France lol
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HermitWilsonMar 31, 2026
+316
It's like they all thought they were playing Risk.
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LV-42whatnowMar 31, 2026
+111
And none of them took to using Papua New Guinea for the win.
“In the '30s, Hitler: Czechoslovakia, Poland, France, Second World War... Russian front not a good idea... Hitler never played Risk when he was a kid. Cause, you know, playing Risk, you could never hold on to Asia. That Asian-Eastern European area, you could never hold it, could you? Seven extra men at the beginning of every go, but you couldn't f***ing hold it. Australasia, that was the one. Australasia. All the purples. Get everyone on Papua New Guinea and just build up and build up...”
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dcbluestarMar 31, 2026
+27
A fellow Izzard fan, I see!
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KONUGMar 31, 2026
+379
Russia telling Ukraine to hand over all their atomic bombs to Russia in exchange to never attack Ukraine.
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counterfitsterApr 1, 2026
+54
I'd flip that a little bit. Russia (under Putin) invading Ukraine in violation of the security guarantee from the Budapest Memorandum concerning aforementioned bombs.
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WrongWangSorryMar 31, 2026
+657
When Frodo believed Gollum over Sam about the missing lembas bread
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dudinaxApr 1, 2026
+142
Not so bad because it doesn't happen in the books. No way some one astute enough to carry the ring into mordor would fall for that.
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Active-Math-9898Apr 1, 2026
+88
Movies nerfed frodo so hard
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EscobarhippoApr 1, 2026
+59
“ he’s always stuffing his face when Master’s not looking.”
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for-reverieMar 31, 2026
+402
How has no one said when Colonel Henry Bouquet and General Jeffrey Amherst handed over blankets infected with small pox to kill natives. This is the worst type of betrayal.
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shinygoldhelmetApr 1, 2026
+102
Intentional spread of smallpox across the americas lead to millions of indigenous people duing, some tri es being wiped out entirely. Some where only 1 or 2 people survived.
In the Days of the Red River Rebellion is a memoir from the 1880s that talks about it in Canada.
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cruisingtheislandMar 31, 2026
+538
When Cartmen ate the KFC skin
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plowerdMar 31, 2026
+165
People say the Scott Tennorman episode is the worst thing Cartman did, but they all forget about Chicken-skin-gate.
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RabidjesterMar 31, 2026
+39
*muffled sobbing*
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IbeepboobarpincsharpMar 31, 2026
+200
The fictional character Dylan in the 1987 action movie The Predator. He set us up! The cabinet member, the whole business, it was all bullshit! (spoilers)
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GodOfGirthhMar 31, 2026
+75
Arnold voice: "What happened to you Dylan ? You used to be someone I could trust 🙂↕️"
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ksyoung17Mar 31, 2026
+47
I woke up. Why don't you?
You're an asset. An expendable. Asset. And I used you to get the job done. Got it?
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Kalthiria_ShinesMar 31, 2026
+182
When my kitty begs for belly rubs and then claws me.
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PuppySnuggleTimeMar 31, 2026
+369
Leeroy Jenkins.
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bungojotMar 31, 2026
+94
At least he had chicken.
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ChoppergoldMar 31, 2026
+630
Judas Iscariot
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Responsible_Handle96Mar 31, 2026
+331
Can't believe how far I had to scroll for this, his name is literally synonymous with treachery.
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DrNuclearSlavMar 31, 2026
+233
The reason that St Jude Thaddeus is considered the patron saint of desperate causes is because Christians would often avoid praying to him for fear of accidentally praying to Judas, so he was grateful for the attention whenever anyone did invoke him and would work his hardest to set things right.
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inkseep1Mar 31, 2026
+64
well, someone had to do it. You can't get the end all sacrifice without someone putting it in motion.
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VeveMaReApr 1, 2026
+53
Henrietta Lacks. The way the doctors betrayed her and her family. Her cancer cells created the "HeLa" line and helped medical research. She never gave consent. Only recently was her family acknowledged or compensated. She died in 1951.
In return for Ukraine giving up the nuclear weapons in its territory after the Soviet Union collapsed, Russia and the United States (among others) signed a treaty in 1994 guaranteeing Ukraine's territorial integrity. The betrayal started in 2014.
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[deleted]Mar 31, 2026
+196
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Baldrick314Mar 31, 2026
+106
Something I find fascinating about Arnold is that up until his betrayal he was a war hero and one of the more influential members of the revolutionary army. Right before he switched sides he led a force that was overrun and he barely escaped with his life. If he'd died in that battle he'd be remembered today in the same light as Washington, Franklin, Nathan Hale, and Paul Revere.
As a non-American I knew very little about the Revolutionary War until I listened to Mike Duncan's podcast on it and the context of Arnold's betrayal really elevates the severity. I thought he was basically a rank and file soldier that switched sides but really it's more akin to if Macarthur had handed over the Philippines to Japan in WWII.
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[deleted]Mar 31, 2026
+46
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Baldrick314Mar 31, 2026
+24
Exactly. I can't remember off the top of my head the other guys name but basically they were competing for commands/ prestige and the other guy got command of an army Arnold thought he deserved and it was the final straw.
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bonzombiekittyMar 31, 2026
+14
He was a good general, but a horrible politician. So he kept getting snubbed, which pissed him off.
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Euphoric_Maize7468Mar 31, 2026
+20
Is that the guy who couldn't lift his shield up in that documentary about the war?
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[deleted]Mar 31, 2026
+15
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TooRational101Mar 31, 2026
+138
Healthcare in America. Followed by shareholders owning prisons and utilities. Perhaps big oil companies putting profit before the Worlds future?
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bearykenMar 31, 2026
+77
The betrayal of General Yue Fei by the politician, Qin Hui of the Southern Song Dynasty in ancient China
To this day, the betrayers are still vilified and Yue Fei is still admired as a paragon of loyalty
Statues of Qin Hui and his wife kneeling in front of Yue Fei for forgiveness have been spat on and vandalized for ages.. they have been destroyed and had to be recasted multiple times
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fernsolsticeharvestApr 1, 2026
+22
The betrayal of Anne Frank’s hiding place is one of the most heartbreaking in modern history.
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AvanhelsingMar 31, 2026
+19
“Kai su, Teknon?”
Or translating from Greek:
“And you,my child?”
Aka the more actuate last words of Julius Caesar. Shakespeare made up “et tu, Brute”. I had a history professor who explained that Caesar was basically saying “You’re next, kiddo.” Caesar was telling Brutus and company that they were gonna get killed for this and he was right. The Roman people turned against them hard.
Another possible last words were “Why, this is violence!” Or “What is this? Such violence against Caesar!”
Basically, if the historian liked Caesar, Caesar didn’t say anything while he was stabbed because he was a tough cool Roman. If the historian hated Caesar, Caesar was a total drama queen and gave a whole speech.
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HopSave21Apr 1, 2026
+43
Monsanto and farmers: the old relationship between farmer and seed had been replaced by a system where life itself was patented, seed saving became restricted, and the company had enough legal power to intimidate and ruin livelihoods.
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YoungDiscordMar 31, 2026
+167
"We should give tax breaks for the rich and help them get more money, its totally gonna trickle down to everyone else like, trust me bro"
~Reagan or something, idk.
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moonelfofstalingradMar 31, 2026
+33
The battle of Stalingrad leaving all the men to die .
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knexoappApr 1, 2026
+63
Native Americans being hospitable to pilgrims and then eventually pilgrims and their descendants massacring Native Americans and stealing their land
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Equivalent_Ad2069Apr 1, 2026
+32
Your phone autocorrect changing a perfectly typed word right as you hit send
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