The idea that if the communists aren’t in power there is no left wing is an insane take.
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MessiSahibMay 6, 2026
+144
Well in India, communists are considered left.
There are three communist parties, CPI (communist party of India), CPI M (Marxist), CPI ML (Marxist Lenninist).
One of the two major parties, that implemented socialism in India, including nationalisation of private companies, and at point owned/operated most of industries and businesses in India while in power, is considered centrist-left.
It's insane that outrightly socialist party, is considered center. But that's how propaganda works.
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SymmetrecialharmonyMay 6, 2026
+34
This is something that the West doesn’t really understand regarding the East, and it’s emblematic of a broader issue of them just not taking the time to actually recognize that their generalizations about the world and how they view only works within a western framework.
As you rightly pointed out, the congress is literally a democratic socialist party which at one point directly practiced Fabian socialism, yet this is one of the largest political parties in India and historically have been the ones running the country federally for the longest.
Even the BJP in many ways would be considered left wing in some western contexts lik the US or even Canada, which is notably more left skewed then the US.
So the idea that the the left in India is dead because literal communists lost is hilarious. By all accounts one could make the argument that Modi is more left wing than many current left wing western prime ministers
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ShutTheFUpRerardMay 6, 2026
+51
Propaganda is everywhere.
BJP in India is Hindu nationalist party. (That is how it gets addressed in every media outlets)
Republican Party in USA is not a Christian nationalist party according to the same media outlets.
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idiocy_incarnateMay 6, 2026
-10
Read the bible some when I was younger, pretty sure they aren't christian, whatever they choose to call themselves.
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ShutTheFUpRerardMay 6, 2026
+19
What they are and what they follow isn't my concern!!
They are clearly backed by pastors, they hold group sermons in the white house, they have separate white house preacher.
It is clear that they are intertwined with Christians and they say they are nationalist (america first), so what's stopping the media to start writing republican as one?
I know, the facade of secularism that USA wants everyone to think their governments follow.
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GriffinIsABerzerkerMay 6, 2026
-4
They are Christians in name and ritual, but they certainly don’t practice it or act like good Christians very well.
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portuh47May 6, 2026
+16
They practice exactly how Christians have practiced their religion over 2 millennia.
You can't pretend Christianity is something different than what it actually has been.
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[deleted]May 6, 2026
+1
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OkTemporary335May 6, 2026
+4
BJP is 5 continents away from being a Hindu nationalist party. They're just as Hindu nationalist as the Trump administration is Christian
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Recent_Risk_3242May 6, 2026
-17
the Indian National Congress is actually the only true center party out there capable of competiting the BJP
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Hippyx420x3 days ago
-3
Im from California and i got banned for saying woman perverted the electoral college.
Get off listnook if you want to nake an impact.
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snasna102May 6, 2026
+28
Propaganda works in many ways… See Trump.
The key is to make the population extremely single issued and lack of education is what really makes it effective… See USA.
Media control is another great tool to utilizing the mass of simpletons. Take something with ‘news’ in the name of it, lie as much as humanly possible and claim to the toothless regulators that your show is for “entertainment purposes only” and if anyone actually believed them, then that’s on them… see Fox News.
Propaganda is an ugly word that people reject. People just see it as the truth they like most.
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DalegalitarianMay 6, 2026
+5
> It’s insane that outrightly socialist part, is considered center. But that’s how propaganda works.
I’d disagree. Socialism is generally thought of as the transitional stage of Capitalism towards Communism. It still upholds the capitalist system and I’d argue that that is the centre ground between the left/Communism and the right/Capitalism. Furthermore, people often say Liberalism is left wing but it also upholds the interest of capital and therefore isn’t leftist.
We could argue further and say left vs right is a stupid and un-nuanced way of grouping people’s political beliefs (much simpler though).
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WonckayMay 6, 2026
+9
This presumes a timeline of capitalism that for Marx was most strongly associated with the idea of the Tendency of the Rate of Profit to Fall (and generally the Labor Theory of Value), which is quire far from orthodox economics today. If the issue is distributional and not systemic/historic then advocacy for that transition at all is the political question.
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MessiSahibMay 6, 2026
+4
You are mixing economic system (socialism - means of production own by public) vs ruling/governing system in capitalism.
Communism is suppose to continue to own the means of production. Thankfully india hasn't fallen to communists yet.
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OkTemporary335May 6, 2026
India already hollowed out two states with communism, I wonder the disasters that would've unfolded had the CPIM leader in WB accepted the PM post offered by congress
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DotBig2348May 6, 2026
+2
Every party in India is left or far left except BJP which is far right,
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1BeholderandripMay 6, 2026
+28
In most of the west (which the majority of Listnook users are from) left and communists share the same political parties to increase their odds of getting their people elected. That might be why some of the views here might be confused about the politics in India right now.
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MorcuMay 6, 2026
+12
Can you give an example? Because in most EU countries this is not the case.
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Temporary-Wafer-6872May 6, 2026
+3
It kinda is the case here in France, where the Communist Party often joined other left parties, such as the socialist or ecologist parties for some elections. They formed the NFP with other left parties during the legislative election of 2024 for exemple.
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PrrrromotionGiven1May 6, 2026
+8
Communist parties in Europe are basically indistinguishable from populist right wing parties - anti EU, soft on Russia, full of corruption, grifters. They might promise different things, but what does it matter when those promises will never be fulfilled anyway?
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AshmedaiMay 6, 2026
+2
No communists serve in any elected capacity in the US Federal Government, and the number that serve in local government can be counted on one hand. I would say that saying that they even exist politically here is one of those exaggerations that doesn't deserve much consideration. For those who like math, elected communist in the US are 0.0000014% of the population. Members of the CP here are no more than 0.0057%, and likely about 1/4th of that.
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1Beholderandrip6 days ago
> No communists serve in any elected capacity in the US Federal Government,
You're joking. Right?
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Ashmedai6 days ago
+2
**NO**
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nastywillowMay 6, 2026
+24
It's always the same for democratic socialist parties.
The poor walk there to vote them in.
And drive there to vote them out.
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Concave5621May 6, 2026
+17
India became relatively richer when they implemented more free market and less socialist policies. The socialist policies were keeping them poor
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nastywillow6 days ago
-2
Bullshit - it was Targeted socialist policies lifting people out of poverty that led to faster economic growth - not the free market drivel neoliberals keep spouting
The main drivers were:
Better access to basic services
A lot of the fall in multidimensional poverty came from improvements in things like sanitation, cooking fuel, schooling, nutrition, electricity, housing, and bank accounts. NITI Aayog says all 12 MPI indicators improved, with particularly large falls in deprivation in sanitation and cooking fuel.
Rural poverty fell faster
This matters because India’s poverty was heavily rural. NITI Aayog reported rural multidimensional poverty falling from 32.59% to 19.28% between 2015–16 and 2019–21, compared with urban poverty falling from 8.65% to 5.27%.
Targeted welfare schemes
The Indian government expanded schemes aimed at food, health, sanitation, housing, cooking gas, bank accounts and direct transfers. The government’s own summary says nine flagship schemes improved healthcare, living conditions and financial inclusion, and helped drive the MPI reduction.
Bank accounts, digital ID and direct transfers
Jan Dhan bank accounts, Aadhaar digital ID and direct benefit transfers made it easier to send subsidies and welfare payments directly to poor households. The World Bank says Aadhaar helped direct more than $310 billion in transfers to beneficiaries and reduced leakage by sending benefits straight to bank accounts.
Food subsidies, especially during Covid
Food transfers through India’s public distribution system helped protect the poorest during the pandemic. An IMF working paper found that food transfers were instrumental in keeping extreme poverty low in 2020.
These policies led to Fast economic growth
India’s economy grew strongly over the period. The World Bank says India’s economy has nearly quadrupled in real terms since 2000, per-capita income has almost tripled, and this growth was accompanied by a major fall in extreme poverty and better infrastructure/basic services.
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SEC_intern_May 6, 2026
+4
Man I’m stealing this.
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nakulmodi1411216 days ago
+4
Every political party is an economic left wing party in India
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Admiral_MeowscleMay 6, 2026
-5
The Overton Window is so shifted in india that even certain conservatives party looks left compared to BJP. And the communist in india are just centre left parties in ideology
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SymmetrecialharmonyMay 6, 2026
+6
I live in Canada, BJP’s welfare schemes would make the New Democratic Party here blush
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Admiral_MeowscleMay 6, 2026
-3
They are just rebranding of old UPA schemes. They still are very authoritarian and weakening democratic institutions in India
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SymmetrecialharmonyMay 6, 2026
+7
They aren’t just rebranding of old schemes and even if they were, that doesn’t change the fact that they enacted policies that were more left wing then most left wing policies in western nations.
If weakening democracy is the benchmark here than the Congress via Indira Gandhi is literally the most right wing party in this conversation
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slimeyy_02May 6, 2026
+4
Yeah people calling BJP as facist authoritarian dictatorship and godknows whatnot, forget that it was Congress which was closest to making India a dictatorship, Modi is likely a fraction that. Ultimately, Indian politics are a mess and can't be viewed from a single lense, well being the largest democracy does come with its effects.
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shorugoru9May 6, 2026
+15
It seems like a lot of people have not read the article. It's not taking about "the left" as anyone outside of India would call it. Left in this context is the "Left Front", which are historical coalitions of far left parties, including the CPM (Communist Party - Marxist). The CPM lost power in West Bengal (a Left Front stronghold) decades ago, and I think Kerala was the last hold out.
The Congress Party was at one time socialist (as those outside of India would recognize it), but it was not a member of the Left Front.
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_rdhyatMay 6, 2026
+6
most honest listnook news:
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nishitdMay 6, 2026
+86
Didn't lose as much as rotated out. They'll be back after 5 years
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TeaSharp3154May 6, 2026
+52
Maybe, but not necessarily. The fact that they've also lost significance in Tripura and WB since then means that they may be starting to bleed with regards to things like political funding and recruitment, when they could have otherwise financially been able to survive such losses in previous cycles.
A lot of the communist party base is there for primarily material reasons (poor conditions in rural areas) and not ideological ones, which are getting more addressed as time goes on so these people have less of a reason to support the CPIM. Not to mention increasing urbanization and industrialization which is unfavorable towards the traditional rural party base.
BJP is gaining more and more influence in Kerala as well. While they only won 3 seats this election cycle, they were in a similar position in WB 10 years ago. It may be possible that the next anti-incumbency wave ends up benefitting BJP (or maybe even a random 3rd party like what just happened in TN) rather than the CPIM
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boredwithlyfMay 6, 2026
+45
Also BJP election machinery is 100x more efficient than other parties.. they actually plan for it. Congress on the other hand is just so out of touch with reality at this point
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slimeyy_02May 6, 2026
+3
While the internet views around them are sketched, but man every party claims that their groundwork is insane, no party is even remotely close to them in this aspect. So, it ain't that they are good people, well that depends on public but they surely know how to win elections.
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Busy-Investigator3476 days ago
+2
Read a comment the other day, that the BJP starts planning for any state's elections years in advance, meanwhile the INC and other parties wake up like 6-8 months before voting. They're incredibly efficient, and the congress needs a change in leadership at the top if they plan on competing with them in any capacity.
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Pani_ki_bottle2 days ago
+2
It's not even about campaigning, it's about establishing good relations with people. Being sweet to their face, offering help , assuring that they are with you. On a massive scale, so you don't see the news but u see the guy in your neighborhood who helps you out a lot.
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TeaSharp3154May 6, 2026
+2
True, but realistically there isn't anything that Congress can do at this point. BJP/RSS spent decades building a decentralized, grassroots political network, based on a common civilizational identity that seems to at least on paper transcend linguistic, geographical, and caste boundaries. Congress meanwhile does not have anything of the sort and does not have the capability to create one and wait for decades while it takes hold. In the era of the internet, the decentralized nature of the BJP's underlying support base is able to outmaneuver and outmessage Congress which historically did not have a direct pipeline to the average person/peer group.
BJP is also more business friendly which allows them to pull greater funding than Congress or Leftist parties. BJP also has several demographical advantages in that they're popular amongst the young, urban, middle-class, industrial population which is only going to grow further.
Congress/INDIA bloc is meanwhile a loose coalition of ideologically distinct local parties that can easily be picked off as time goes on.
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Pani_ki_bottle2 days ago
+2
Not to forget women, more women vote for BJP than Men
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Technical_Finish9875May 6, 2026
+8
But kerala is different from the other places you mentioned the poverty is not a big factor here, only way for BJP to defeat cpim is for congress to f*** up so bad that the Hindus and christians all vote for bjp. But it would be very hard
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TeaSharp3154May 6, 2026
+1
BJPs electoral wins in Kerala have been in urban areas right? CPI(M) meanwhile has historically been very rural focused. From the financial perspective, CPIM's donation base is not as wealthy as BJP's donation base, due to the more urban, middle class, and industrial voters that support the BJP (BJP can also fundraise from way more regions than CPIM across India now). I don't know if CPIM has the financial capability to continue competing with the BJP and Congress in the future.
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Technical_Finish98756 days ago
+2
Good point but cpim still has multiple big shots backing it, otherwise they wouldn't have been in power last term
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Fickle_Book_9823May 6, 2026
+42
TMC jihadis and communists are done. Did you see gen Z celebrating on streets like no tommorow. This is the future.
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syd_imuh-duhMay 6, 2026
-4
Bold of you to assume the goonda culture won't be passed on and inherited by the BJP there. But let's see and hope for the best.
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Fickle_Book_9823May 6, 2026
+15
BJP is already at center and in many states. The country would be in civil war if the had TMC like attitude.
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syd_imuh-duhMay 6, 2026
-1
No I meant inherit the goonda culture of politics in WB. BJP isn't exactly a trailblazer.
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Fickle_Book_9823May 6, 2026
+2
Is this an attempt to protect rapes n murders by political leaders n ideology by blaming ‘people of bengal’ and calling their culture ‘goonda culture ‘. People of bengal are just fine n their culture is great!
BJP might not be best but its a cadre based party which doesnt revolve around one family or one person. This is why it works like well oiled machine.
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420b0_0tyWizard6 days ago
+1
Remin me again which government put garlands on a bunch of rapists?
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420b0_0tyWizard6 days ago
+1
Buddy boy here thinks I stan political parties like he does.
BJP is your your home team bro, tell me how do you justify them putting garlands on rapists?
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Fickle_Book_98236 days ago
+1
So everyone does? Congress gave election tickets to perpetrators of sikh riots
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420b0_0tyWizard6 days ago
+1
Is that really how you justify r*** apologists?
The other party did it so sab changa si
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syd_imuh-duhMay 6, 2026
-1
eh? relax homes. I'm talking about the political culture of Bengal. Any region has a political culture, TMC inherited the goonda culture of CPI, and we hope it won't by the leaders coming forward in and for the future. Stop being pressed lmao.
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Fickle_Book_9823May 6, 2026
+3
Political parties have culture not the region. People of bengal are just fine. Communist CPI was always violent and TMC took help of islamists. BJP has its agenda and ideology and doesnt need to inherit anything from CPI or TMC.
Mamata was voted out of her own seat. Its game over for TMC as a political party.
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lacerantplainer6 days ago
+4
Well the headline makes no difference between Leftists and communists.
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Remarkable-CanineMay 6, 2026
+34
Wrong headline. It should read. "COMMUNISM DIED IN INDIA" MADE TWO STATES TOTALLY BANKRUPT.
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Recent_Risk_3242May 6, 2026
+14
yo...i am telling ya,i posted this on the socialism subredit and they are literally like- "the naxals were better". like how can u justify an armed insurgency killing innocents and disrupting local infra?
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AwkwardAd55546 days ago
+1
They are blinded by their ideology and speak of critical thinking, hypocrites. Everyone. Bernie Sanders. AOC. Everyoen
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Recent_Risk_32426 days ago
+1
they kept yapping about how the Centre always oppressed Dalits(low castes) and allmhow the Naxals were uplifiting them. Overlooking the fact as to how the Naxals would massacare your entire family if u said a single word against them.
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AwkwardAd55546 days ago
Exactly. That Leftist Ideology is Pro-People is biggest lie. Even Bigger lie than "AOC has a functioning brain"
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Ok_Fish2838May 6, 2026
+3
State with the highest literacy btw
That yall tried to propagandize as dangerous with trash films
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archjhMay 6, 2026
+19
Good riddance
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CosmicMetalheadMay 6, 2026
+14
Pseudo left
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Royal_Radish_3069May 6, 2026
+31
Extreme left actually
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JShearar136 days ago
+1
Finally there is no more Communist Govt in any state of India.
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Pani_ki_bottle2 days ago
+1
A man who promises to liberate you from the exploitation of your job is promising you unemployment.
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not_dragoonMay 6, 2026
-7
Their is no real left in India
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TheDemonWarlockMay 6, 2026
+27
We've found the most listnook take in all of existence. _*Every*_ party in India is left
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rohanvermaaaMay 6, 2026
Tru lol every party has their own version of lauda lasun yojna heck TVK has a tired system in place for the freebies
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thekillerbirdMay 6, 2026
+2
Nah lol... All Indian parties are left
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realhumanthoughtsMay 6, 2026
-178
Funny but morseo sad to see a country supposedly founded as an escape from fascism and racism (obviously not without issues) continues to itself fall more into fascism and racism...
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nishitdMay 6, 2026
+161
The left-wing in this context doesn't mean progressive, liberal sense. This is literally the communist party. It's called Communist Party of India. The incoming government is what would Americans or Europeans would call leftist.
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Gaucho_DiazMay 6, 2026
+1
I'm from there. The Communist party in practice is more like democratic socialists. They're only Communist in name and broad ideology, which is far removed from the on-ground reality. The incoming party is more like neoliberal centre-left.
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MightyCamel_SEMCMay 6, 2026
+80
This is a completely delusional take. Do you have any basic knowledge of the region? The entire Hindu social hierarchy could be framed as based on 'racism' in a Western-biased context. The fact that India is a pluralistic democracy is mostly owed to Hinduism's innate pluralistic social structure (and maybe pantheism) compared to Islam's obvious preference for centralized politics (aka 'fascism')
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Weekly-Fortune2611May 6, 2026
+20
How so
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Royal_Radish_3069May 6, 2026
+10
Wasn't TMC borderline similar to a terror ist organization? Is that what left is supposed to be ?
Just refer to last time post pollution violence affected 100,000 people and sandeshkhali, RG Kar grapes on Hindu women.
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Fickle_Book_9823May 6, 2026
+25
Do you want to know about hindu women who raped by jihadi TMC goons and cut till navel. My hands shudder as I am typing about brutality and I cant elaborate further.
However read This read thread by J sai Deepak. Not for faint hearted . I HOPE EVERYONE READS THIS.
https://x.com/jsaideepak/status/2051367943611773072?s=46
Though India got its independence in 1947 these women are liberated after almost 600 years.
Stop riding on your moral high horse with zero knowledge of ground reality.
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_rdhyatMay 6, 2026
+2
bro you probably don't even live in India
you can't just map terms like left and right to American politics
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BluejayConsistent199May 6, 2026
-107
A new regime can only improve what was done to an amazing country.
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