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WashuOtaku May 8, 2026 +206

The Danes are now quietly dusting off the Sound Toll.

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noir_lord May 8, 2026 +60

UK and France are looking at the English Channel/La Manche. Not really, I'd hope our governments aren't *that* stupid.

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Nepridiprav16 May 8, 2026 +19

Canada also for Northwest Passage?

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noir_lord May 8, 2026 +7

Much like UK/France, I fully expect Canada to respect UNCLOS.

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EstablishmentFull797 May 8, 2026 +15

Canada could conceivably have a legitimate claim under UNCLOS that key parts of the NW passage are Canadian internal waters, and there fore sovereign territory they could impose tolls for use of

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TongsOfDestiny May 9, 2026 +10

> Canada could conceivably have a legitimate claim No, Canada's claim is legitimate. The waters of the NW Passage are within the Canadian baseline, given that the arctic archipelago that confines the passage is all inhabited Canadian territory

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noir_lord May 8, 2026 +5

Oh I’m aware, I fully expect Canada won’t. In fact I’d be positively shocked if they did, whatever revenue it generated wouldn’t offset the reputational damage or the precedent it’d set when an advanced western economy did it. Freedom of navigation has been the rule since the British Empire would rock up with a gunboat and explain it (not that they cared about others but they wanted their trade unmolested, so in fairness did the other colonial maritime powers). To a large extent that mantle got passed from the UK to the US. Especially in a world where Canada is looking more beyond the US for partners.

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VanCityPhotoNewbie May 9, 2026 +2

From what I understood it wasn't for revenue. Rather to ban bad actors from using the passage....mostly Russia due to the Ukraine war. At least that is what the push for claiming the passage was originally for.

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CarRamRob May 9, 2026 +3

It’s easy toll to set up, considering no one takes it.

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firefighter26s May 9, 2026 +1

Strait of Juan de Fuca would control all the traffic to Seattle and Puget Sound...

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GaytheonCheck May 9, 2026 +1

high hopes bud

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Natural-You4322 May 8, 2026 +151

This is old old news. Malaysia says no. Singapore says no. Indonesia in the end says it is just a joke.

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Garbage_Plastic May 9, 2026 +36

A Prime example of AU news with lightening speed staying relevant to ever so volatile world.

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DMind_Gaming May 9, 2026 +17

Not only is the news old but it's also wrong, Malaysia did not suggest this idea at all but they reported that Sugiono (the one who suggested it) as Malaysian Foreign Minister when he is actually Indonesia's Foreign Minister so yeah they are not only slow to report it but also got it wrong on top of it.

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AgUnityDD May 10, 2026 +2

It's channel 9 - It is no more "news" than Fox is, it is a mix of propaganda and self-serving rhetoric. Worth reporting to MediaWatch, but they are pretty busy.

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jwrx May 9, 2026 +55

This is BS news. Malaysia has never said anything of the sort and straight up said NO when Indonesian politician (1 fella) brought it up

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hackenclaw May 9, 2026 +1

if only Malaysia can sue all these tabloid into bankruptcy

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Deadman_Wonderland May 8, 2026 +58

I'm considering setting up a toll for the sidewalk in front of my house.

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noir_lord May 8, 2026 -18

It's only valid if a neighbour from streets away comes past and bricks all your windows, then you can charge the toll after you brick your immediate neighbours windows and the rest of the town will go "if that's what it takes for you to stop bricking windows".

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mclannee May 9, 2026 -6

They downvoted him because he spoke the truth.

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Mysterious_Meal_6025 May 9, 2026 +13

The article quoted Sugiono as Malaysian foreign minister when he is the Indonesian foreign minister. Great reporting guys.

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Polar_Beach May 8, 2026 +33

Zero chance China would let them do that.

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noir_lord May 8, 2026 +20

Yep, this was posted a week ago and I pretty much said "That's how you get the PLAN to pop by for a visit". It likely contravenes UNCLOS so China absolutely will sail Warships back and forth to make a point, the same point made when Western Militaries do freedom of navigation transits around the Spratly's. Likely another consequence of the middle east mess.

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analoggi_d0ggi May 8, 2026 +12

Lol worse this is how you'll get China, USA, and EVERYONE with a major navy on the same f****** side. The Malacca Straits is a crucial waterway for all international trade. There's no way the powers will let this slide.

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I_Push_Buttonz May 9, 2026 +6

> The Malacca Straits is a crucial waterway for all international trade. There's no way the powers will let this slide. All of what you said is just as true for Hormuz and there is essentially zero pushback from China against Iran claiming it and saying they will control access to it and charge a toll forever.

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analoggi_d0ggi May 9, 2026 +6

Hormuz is different as its a war between a world power and a country allied to another world power. China benefits from an alliance with Iran so they really can't castigate their allies too much. If Malaysia/Indonesia just started blocking Malacca for the lulz its going to be a scenario that benefits absolutely no one else. Its likelier that the powers will be on the same page on it.

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Salty_Pop_3888 May 9, 2026 +1

Granted the order is reversed, but you really wouldn't want to be Iran right now. If Indonesia ever tried closing the Malacca, they'll face isolation and destruction comparable to Iran. Iran can do it because there is not much else to lose, Indonesia won't because it's leaders don't want to be overthrown, by its people in a protest or an election,, by the CIA, or by good old Assassination, after completely avoidable sanctions and possibly war.

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streamofthesky May 9, 2026

I said the same thing about Iran closing Hormuz a year ago, and yet the entire world has just let them do it. No longer as certain that any countries would step in if they did this, either. I personally think if Iran does toll Hormuz, then Malacca should be tolled for Iran and Chinese ships until the Hormuz toll goes away.

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ziggyyT May 9, 2026 +8

The fool who said it was an Indonesian minister. They had to back track in the end. Fools.

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catscanmeow May 8, 2026 +10

malaka is wanker in greek, so this is a very amusing story

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SHUT_DOWN_EVERYTHING May 8, 2026 +2

They should try enforcing it right as Trump flies to China for extra fun.

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Gloryjoel69 May 9, 2026 +3

I find it funny that Australia keeps getting their info wrong about what’s going on with their literal next door neighbors. Last year they said Indonesia allowed Russian air planes to land at our Air Force base (we didn’t) Now this. Not only is this an old news, nothing came out of it. Even Indonesia, the one who proposed this, back paddled.

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princemousey1 May 9, 2026 +2

“Senior politicians” in the article seems to be referring to age (senility), rather than senior (ranking in administration).

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zaevilbunny38 May 8, 2026 +1

There were over 100 official acts of piracy in the straits last year and at least the same number that wasn't reported. All Indonesia needs to do is state any vessel that doesn't pay the toll will be publicly listed and the maritine forces won't intervene if something happens.

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Nessie May 9, 2026 +1

If I've learned one thing on the internet, it's this: "Never feed a toll."

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IntentionPlus15 May 9, 2026 +1

and china will block china sea hahaha

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cbawiththismalarky May 9, 2026 +1

On the 13th of April Indonesia and the US government signed a Major Defence Cooperation Partnership at the pentagon

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One-Manufacturer4124 May 9, 2026 +1

The kind of bs news with no substance nor any solid evidence just to gain readership. We need credible news and this is not it.

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JobTight8252 May 9, 2026 +1

Straights of Gilbraltar, make a fortune!!

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Big_Trust1850 May 9, 2026 +1

A silly idea only a three-year-old would have

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Global-Laugh-3604 May 10, 2026 +1

Imagine all that money coming in annually !!

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Party-Cover-5436 May 10, 2026 +1

Damn they’d make money too

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Spiritual_War_2150 May 11, 2026 +1

hoax

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Kaiel1412 May 8, 2026 +1

I'm glad that America showed to Iran that they can easily make a toll through their own strait and now countries next to a vital trading route are considering them also thanks Trump

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1Beholderandrip May 9, 2026 +1

> can easily make a toll We literally have a blockade on it and are choosing who crosses. 😂 Nobody's paying their toll anymore

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rabidstoat May 8, 2026 -4

THEY NEVER WOULD HAVE DONE THAT IF KAMALA WERE PRESIDENT. Since Trump is so full of "never would've happened if I were President." He's so full of shit. He says that about the Russian War, and yet he can't get a cease fire after over a year, when the countries are worn down from years of fighting and theoretically more willing to negotiate.

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elykl12 May 9, 2026 +1

“But her laugh…”-Swing Michigan voter about to put their balls in a vice

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1Beholderandrip May 9, 2026 +2

You're right. We would have done nothing, let Iran get their nuke, and just shrugged as our oil prices become double what they are now 😀

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StatusDimension8 May 8, 2026 +1

No no no keep Malaysia’s name out of it.

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DDoubleDDog May 8, 2026 +1

The US Navy will challenge this, as they always do, by sailing through, knowing they will not be fired upon because they know there would be severe consequences.

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DDoubleDDog May 9, 2026

The US will never back any country putting tolls on international waterways. The US backs freedom of navigation and it is willing to enforce it even against its own allies. For example, after WW2, Denmark wanted to continue charging tolls to ships passing through its waters, until the US decided to conduct a freedom of navigation operation through Denmark. The Danes didn't dare fire at the US warships and that waterway was opened for all ships for the first time in history.

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DDoubleDDog May 9, 2026 +1

False. The US never proposed that. The US believes in freedom of navigation for all.

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thewavefixation May 9, 2026 +1

Zero chance Singapore would. Malaysia and Indonesia are a joke.

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ise311 May 9, 2026 +1

Malaysia has nothing to do with this. The one suggesting is Indonesia's politician alone.

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Previous-Coconut6673 May 8, 2026 -1

“Much of China's global trade is dependent on access to the strait, and the superpower in the region retains a lot of clout.” This should tell you all you need to know about this move and who is really behind it.

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Rich_Housing971 May 8, 2026

Which politicians? every country has their share of stupid MAGA-type politicians who say stuff like this. This would be horrible for the region's economy even if they give Chinese ships a free or c**** toll.

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Single_Comment6389 May 9, 2026 -1

Where's all all you people who think that Iran can do no wrong now?

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Arcamorge May 8, 2026 -1

I feel like I watched a video where someone claimed the Hormuz toll meant globalism was over and privateers+sound tolls were back in fashion and somehow it would lead to Denmark getting nuked. Hmm, maybe some of that is true

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