I have internet and I also have little idea how it’s actually going.
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CrustyBappen5 days ago
+58
Same, I was thinking this morning that despite being locked into listnook and the news to an unhealthy extent, I can’t wrap my head around what is happening
Maybe that’s intentional?
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Shadow2935 days ago
+33
I’ve literally been chronically online for months. Idk wtf is going on.
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fantasmoofrcc5 days ago
+19
All I know is that there are some real banger AI Lego diss tracks being released almost daily.
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Settra_Rulez5 days ago
+11
Aren’t those linked to Iranian propaganda?
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pentox705 days ago
+23
Not just linked to, the Iranians literally made them, and they haven't been subtle.
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LuckyBoneHead5 days ago
+3
I've legitimately never seen listnookors eat up propaganda like this. Its really weird because listnook as a whole contains users who vehemently oppose everything Iran stands for, or at least they claim to, and yet there's so many people suddenly softpeddling Iran's atrocities and the sheer scale of their oppression while holding a microscope on whatever America does.
I genuinely think its some kind of Iranian ploy to further propagandize people. Create a bunch of fake propaganda accounts that'll say "What? Iran murdered thousands of protestors? When? By the way, look at all the protestors America's killed (3). Therefore they're worse than Iran in every metric!"
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smooth-as-mud5 days ago
-1
Being in America is not great right now, for a lot of people, and there aren't many signs that things are going to get better any time soon.
It would be one thing if policing Iran was just kind of something the government was doing on the side, while they were taking care of business at home, but it’s actively making life in America worse on a daily basis. Frankly it’s not surprising that there’s a very small appetite for it, and that people are pointing out the hypocrisy. Why should Americans care what is going on in Iran when similar things are happening at home and also something as simple as a Friday night dinner at a half-decent restaurant is out of reach for a decent chunk of the population?
I don't doubt there are real propaganda bots in the mix, that's what war is these days, but I'm also not going to deny that America has set itself up for its citizens to buy into it. If the economy was roaring and everyone felt good, safe, and comfortable I'm sure that significantly fewer people would care what was going on.
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EternalPleasure5 days ago
+3
Right but the same people that scream about how evil A.I is and how it has no soul suddenly switch their tone when it comes to anti-usrael propaganda. Is it too much to ask for some consistency and conviction?
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Initial_E5 days ago
+1
We absolutely deserve this
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little-teatime5 days ago
+1
I feel like they have had a new one each day but I didn’t see one for today or yesterday. Think it’s the outage?
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Competitive-Fruit-185 days ago
+3
The one I caught today is a rap video- It manages to slant rhyme “ your government is run by pedophiles, they ordered you to die for Israel”
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redditobserverone5 days ago
Neither do the people that started the war.
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BangCrash5 days ago
-2
Maybe thats the problem.
Put your phone does and go for a walk outside
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Wanna_make_cash5 days ago
+20
Tends to be the result when one side of the conflict is a highly biased, extremely propagandized regime with very little civilian rights or information access...and the other side of the conflict is a highly biased administration that loves to lie led by a chatterbox that doesn't have any idea what's going on because they're suffering from dementia and performs diplomacy via unhinged Truth Social posts.
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Lovely_kenzie5 days ago
-4
Why did you describe the US twice?
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LuckyBoneHead5 days ago
+5
To describe America as "a place with little civilian rights or information access" is a sign that you're propagandized. There's no way, even as a joke, someone could say that sincerely.
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iamthecherryontop5 days ago
+3
Oh come on. Let's not pretend Iran isn't as evil as the lunatic dementia guy. Iranian fanatics are delusional and are blind-sided.
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Tacoman4045 days ago
+5
Back in the day we used to get out middle eastern war videos taken on nokia phones and posted on LiveLeak
The internet feels weaker now that it was back then.
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rookie-mistake5 days ago
+1
yeah, me and my friends at the bar over the weekend were literally trying to figure out if y'all were still at war or what was even going on there
we're all fairly politically informed but this has been confusing as hell
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ChopEee5 days ago
+1
I’m sure it’s intentional
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Creativator5 days ago
+1
Nothing is happening. A bunch of political bigshots were blown up and then that was as far as the plan went.
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Bornee355 days ago
+15
Trump is Jesus, and hates the pope. They’ve put a blockade on a blockade. You’re now up to speed.
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ActuatorOk73605 days ago
+4
Bless you my child. For you have won, news
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BOPSurfcasting15 days ago
+18
Well, let me tell you how the war is going....we bombed them, they bombed us, fuel and food prices are getting higher and higher, and the United States is now helping Iran keep the Strait of Hormuz closed.
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Colbert20205 days ago
+22
What the USA is doing is interdicting ships going to Iranian ports. It's effectively a blockade on Iran's ability to generate money through their oil exports while the cost of oil is so high and the strait is closed to everyone else.
It's not stupid. I'd daresay it's good strategy.
For the record, the war itself is stupid. The USA should just take the L and leave. But as far as tactics go, this is not a bad one. Iran wants to control the strait, but that's not going to happen. It is international waters.
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DEATH-BY-CIRCLEJERK5 days ago
+3
They are also interdicting ships that pay Iran the $2M toll per transit of the strait. Not just ships going to Iranian ports.
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Colbert20205 days ago
+14
Yes. No one will pay the toll anymore now. That's the theory anyways.
If Iran wants to close the strait, then it's closed for everyone. Not just the people Iran wants.
Turns out having a navy matters, not just some drones or artillery near your coast.
I f****** hate Trump and I hate this war. But the people on this stupid social media platform are just so stupid and don't understand what's going on. This is a strategically sound move. Other countries can get their oil elsewhere instead of paying Iran's toll or letting Iran export their oil. This should have been done the first day Iran threatened the strait.
The oil prices are GOING to be high for you, REGARDLESS of this move. 90%+ of the traffic was not happening. The only nation that benefits from what was going on before the "blockade" was Iran.
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BOPSurfcasting15 days ago
+3
Yes good strategy but Iran have endured years of sanctions and have developed their own strategies to survive these sanctions, granted this blockade is like the mother of all sanctions, but don't expect Iran to buckle overnight, they might be able to hold out for months.
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Diezelbub5 days ago
+4
They have endured years of sanctions precisely because they've been able to use the straight as they please. They dont have friends willing to extend credit because when their people depose the government they're not going to honor the debt. Oil revenue and the foreign currency it brings in drying up is a big deal, trying to float on their own currency is leading to hyperinflation which means nobody wants to be paid in it (not that they did to begin with but its even less desired now)
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BOPSurfcasting15 days ago
+5
Alright, I'm not looking forward to the increased fuel and food prices that will result from that, and I'm also convinced the Islamic regime can take the pain, here's hoping I'm wrong and they fold.
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Colbert20205 days ago
+2
Traffic through the strait at its highest of this war was like 3% of what it was prior to it.
The only ships that were going through were those (1) exporting Iranian crude, or (2) paying the toll. This was not a lot of them. Most shipping companies will not take the risk.
Am I praising the move? I didn't want the war to start. I want it to be f****** over yesterday. I don't care how humiliating the defeat is. But I hope we can agree that letting Iran profit from the fact they threatened the strait is stupid as f*** and I am glad they put an end to that.
Without a navy, Iran cannot enforce a toll. It's simple as that.
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m3ntos19925 days ago
+4
One day it's lifting sanctions on Iranian oil, now it's blocking all Iranian oil.
It just seems like US started this war without any plan? Or if they had one it went completely sideways...
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Colbert20205 days ago
+3
Lifting the sanctions was obviously stupid. As soon as Iran threatened shipping in the strait, they should not have been allowed to let their own tankers through or charge a toll. It's international waters. Either open it, or close it. Iran does not get to hold the strait hostage.
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Krickwho5 days ago
+2
unlikely Iran will fold from this, their already asked Iranian civilians to stand in the line of fire of bombs, won't be a problem feeding the troops and just ignore their own civilian population.
It's a really crazy war who knows what happen I doubt anyone has a idea especially with Trump flip flopping all over the place...
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HalfADozenOfAnother5 days ago
+2
Troops have parents, children, siblings, spouses and so on. Letting your citizens starve isn't a successful longterm strategy for any leader.
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BOPSurfcasting15 days ago
+2
Just go in there and grab it, cherish it, it's there for the taking, we did all the hard work so it should be easy.
Cancel that.
You try sail through the strait and we'll help Iran blow your ass out of the water.
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SporksInjected5 days ago
+2
They never said anything about blowing tankers up. You’re spreading misinformation right now.
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BOPSurfcasting15 days ago
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All I know is if you try sail a tanker through the strait without paying the troll toll Iran will blow your ass out of the water, and if you do pay the troll toll the United States will blow your ass out of the water.
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SporksInjected5 days ago
+3
That’s not what centcom said though. If your destination or origin is an Iranian location, you will be boarded, humanitarian ships are subject to inspection, and only military ships will be blown up.
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BOPSurfcasting15 days ago
+1
Just trolling you son, don't let me get under your skin, just try and breath, deep breaths, in and out........in and out.
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SporksInjected5 days ago
+4
I saw your original message and I’m glad you didn’t post that. I appreciate trying to turn down the temperature though. There’s just a lot of intentional misdirection happening here on Listnook.
Hopefully all this shit is over soon.
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redditobserverone5 days ago
+2
The ceasefire that never started has ceased again.
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BarryRightWrong5 days ago
+3
I've forgotten how many times the war has been won now, what's it up to 6 or 7?
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Rock_mage5 days ago
No, Iran is not doing a blockade for the US blockade. They are blockading the entire Middle East trade now. I don't know how they will do this. It is a threat though.
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Colbert20205 days ago
+7
Prior to this move, the strait was closed for everyone except buyers for Iran's oil exports, and those that paid the toll.
Think about that.
Iran threatened the strait and are profiting from the increased price on their crude. F*** that. I am glad they put an end to it.
You can hate Trump. I sure do. But this move just makes sense. The strait does not belong to Iran.
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ZixZeven5 days ago
+2
he's the one that caused the mess in the first place. he should be the one fixing it.
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I_spread_love_butter5 days ago
+2
>The strait does not belong to Iran.
I guess it belongs to the US now. Will that be better?
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HalfADozenOfAnother5 days ago
+8
The U.S isn't charging a toll. The U.S hasn't mined the strait. They U.S hasn't attacked any civilian ships in the Strait.
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castor--troy5 days ago
-1
Trump: “Help me, help you destroy the US.”
He really doesn’t need the help.
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BOPSurfcasting15 days ago
+1
It still blows me away that one man can do all this to the global economy. He should have left Israel to it, Iran hold their Hormuz card in reserve for US involvement only and were not likely to play that hand in the event of just an Israeli attack.
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castor--troy5 days ago
+1
It’s a bad sign when politicians fire generals in wartime.
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BOPSurfcasting15 days ago
+2
Yes it is a bad sign.
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Ultra_Metal5 days ago
+1
Because the mainstream media and social media are spreading disinformation.
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btb00025 days ago
+1
Hooray American media
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Creativator5 days ago
+1
Have you tried joining the crowd at the Polymarket bar in DC?
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cmackchase5 days ago
+1
The US does something stupid. Iran shitposts the US. Rinse and repeat for the last two weeks. That is what is going on.
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G_Art335 days ago
+1
It’s not just you. I literally cannot figure out what is happening hour by hour.
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BlueHighwindz5 days ago
+1
The goddamn president doesn’t know how it’s going, what hope do you do?
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plamda5055 days ago
+1
Came here to say that.
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Bunnymancer5 days ago
+1
Republicans constantly lying and gaslighting has made it near impossible to know anything about what they're doing, at this point.
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wastedgod5 days ago
+1
The people that started also have no idea how it is going
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Unlucky_Accountant715 days ago
+56
Well over a month of no internet for their whole country.
Normal stuff for IRGC I guess
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az785 days ago
+23
Before the conflict, there were daily stories about water shortages, rolling blackouts, runaway inflation, etc. Those problems didn't disappear when the bombs started dropping, only our ability to hear about them.
The IRGC knows this and the internet is where dissidents network to build mass protests. How long will the Internet be off before we acknowledge the IRGC is never turning it back on again?
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Loco_725 days ago
+39
Apparently, both Iran and the United States won the war, although they also both lost and are now urging each other to negotiate a peace agreement.
Meanwhile, both are blocking the Strait of Hormuz, which is both open and closed at the same time.
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professorhummingbird5 days ago
+15
Exactly, not that complicated
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PontiusPilatesss5 days ago
+8
Schrödinger’s Strait.
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fartonisto5 days ago
+2
Hormuzenberg Uncertainty Principle
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arkon__5 days ago
+61
Their bots have no problem still
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Khaganate235 days ago
+11
Listnook still active and strong
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Skeeter_2065 days ago
-16
You mean people that are against unprovoked attacks on sovereign countries?
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Zipz5 days ago
+20
No he means bots trying to influence perceptions among other things
You do know Irans been caught on Listnook right?
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I_spread_love_butter5 days ago
-8
You do know about that high profile mod from this very sublistnook right?
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Skeeter_2065 days ago
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People from Iran aren't allowed on listnook? Israel pays thousands of people to post here lol
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whatthe122345 days ago
+2
“Unprovoked”
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Skeeter_2065 days ago
Yes, Iran did not attack the United States.
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whatthe122345 days ago
+1
Enough of your bot nonsense. They directly fund terrorist organizations that have attacked the United States as well as U.S allies with a mutual defense agreement.
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Skeeter_2065 days ago
+4
Aww, did someone say something that goes against the Israeli narrative? Why don't you go support the bombing of women and children instead of acting like I'm a bot because I know how to look beyond your genocidal narrative.
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whatthe122345 days ago
+5
Who said anything about supporting bombing? In fact, if you have to escalate like that to prove a point, that means you support the regime that killed tens of thousands of innocent protestors.
Sounds like I struck a nerve. Didn’t realize bots had nerves. You don’t look beyond any narratives because you don’t have eyes. Bots don’t have eyes silly
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Sxualhrssmntpanda5 days ago
+1
Yes. Unprovoked.
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CaptainCanuck935 days ago
+19
It's interesting because I think your average Iranian would be shocked at how well the war is going for them at a strategic level
If I was an Iranian and someone told me "the USA managed to kill a bunch of senior leadership and destroyed our air force and navy, yet are begging us to make peace and are willing to make concessions on a half dozen points" I would probably assume it was IRGC propaganda rather than Trump f****** this up *that* badly
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faux_italian5 days ago
+21
But yea. Let’s keep cheering Iran on from western civilization. A place where we are free. IRGC hate us. we are ruled by a WWE-ified administration. None of this makes sense
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ZombiePartyBoyLives5 days ago
+9
I'm not cheering Iran on, but I do find the lack of awareness and competence from anyone in this administration awe-inspiring. Like, do any of them understand that the US fought a proxy war through Iraq against Iran for **ten f****** years**? Did they all think Iran would just bend over and take it? It might be amusing if it wasn't so horrifying...
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Metalloid_Maniac_5 days ago
+3
They aren't short on confidence, that's for sure.
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Dark_World_Blues5 days ago
+13
Imagine defending a dictatorship that prevents their people from using the Internet.
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THEPIGWHODIDIT5 days ago
+24
Lack of information vs disinformation.
Pick your poison
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IntelArtiGen5 days ago
+11
Sadly it's both for them. But I guess they're a bit used to it. The situation is obviously special but it's not the 1st time.
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Funny-Ambition-76315 days ago
+15
I'm hearing firsthand from friends and family in Iran (they can only call outside, one way) that the worst part is that there are sometimes warnings about locations that will be targeted within the hour, but people can't find out! because the regime has implemented a complete internet shutdown and the state media won't broadcast those locations either. 90 million people have been taken hostage.
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Competitive-Fruit-185 days ago
+2
Can not imagine how hard and terrifying it must be, hoping your family will remain ok and this war ends tomorrow
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Shygan_Ab5 days ago
+3
Iranian with limited and slow access here.
I still have no idea how it's going.
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jaxs_sax5 days ago
+7
Don’t worry citizens of Iran, listnookors will tell you how to feel about what is going on
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KomplexStatic5 days ago
+8
Legos flyin' off the shelves though..
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YqlUrbanist5 days ago
+4
I'm not convinced I'd be any less informed with no internet than I am now.
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Stevepitt25 days ago
+2
We here in the US don’t really know how it going either
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Whiladan5 days ago
+5
We need Iran's equivalent Baghdad Bob on the case!
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wingfan14695 days ago
+4
We don't have the blockout, but same Iranians, same.
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tenkaranarchy5 days ago
+1
THIS is exactly why we need radio services like voice of America. But nooooo, fElon and his doge boiz got rid of it.
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NotNorthSpartan5 days ago
+1
Unfortunately for them, revolution and civil wars require Internet to happen
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ClownMorty5 days ago
+1
Well, it's going both well and poorly, for everyone.
Iran has the upper hand strategically, but the US is dominant militarily. And __*everyone*__ is losing economically.
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TippsAttack4 days ago
+1
That's the point. Control the information. Control the populace.
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Fun_Push71682 days ago
+1
https://c.org/YtTVqwd8YN
Trying to help.
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BOPSurfcasting15 days ago
Two tankers turned back when the US announced their blockade, one was from UAE bound for China, whats the game plan here?, drive up fuel prices even higher?
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RedWeasel20005 days ago
+12
The UAE china bound one seems to have now turned around again and is heading through. It turned back at the announced time, 40 minutes later it turned back again drifted slowly for about 5 hours and started heading off at 8 kts on its original course 2 hours ago.
Idk how accurate these maps are so if someone knows more please add. It's called the Rich Starry
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SporksInjected5 days ago
+2
Thanks for fact checking and not spreading misinformation
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BOPSurfcasting15 days ago
+1
Is that on marinetraffic?
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RedWeasel20005 days ago
+4
Yeah it's just below and to the right of Larak island now
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BOPSurfcasting15 days ago
+1
Oh yep I can see it now
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Thurak05 days ago
+1
RICH STARRY? I would not want to be on that one.
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Dofolo5 days ago
-3
Take over from Iran in pissing the world off, Trump figures that if he's the best (trying to be at least) at everything they're bound to give him a Nobel prize for something eventually :D
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VegetableYesterday635 days ago
+1
We have the internet- unfortunately you can’t believe anything our administration is saying
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Inn_Cog_Neato_19665 days ago
+1
Try presstv.ir on internet, and I assume that in Iran it is still broadcasting on television frequencies.
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restore_democracy5 days ago
+1
So they don’t know that they’re winning and Trump has joined their side?
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zumera5 days ago
-1
What would they hear if they had free access to outside reporting? Trump crowing that he’s “won”?
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IntelArtiGen5 days ago
+3
It's quite hard to know what they know tbh, it's the point of blocking the internet. I guess they can still communicate a bit, and phone calls with other countries aren't blocked afaik.
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WasteBinStuff5 days ago
-6
Intellectual blackout leaves Americans with little idea of how _anything_ is actually going.
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Inn_Cog_Neato_19665 days ago
+1
Hear Hear!
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leisurechef5 days ago
-12
TBH blocking the internet is a war strategy to block intel leaks
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No-Faithlessness28795 days ago
+19
No it’s not lol. It’s a repressive technique used to control the narrative with civilians. The only news they get is what the IRGC puts out.l
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leisurechef5 days ago
-9
Side effect
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No-Faithlessness28795 days ago
+10
No it’s called “repression by suppression” lmao.
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leisurechef5 days ago
-1
Whatever
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IntelArtiGen5 days ago
+3
They've been doing that for the past years everytime there was a risk for protests. Even Russia and Ukraine aren't entirely blocking the internet. Only Iran is doing it this way and it's for this specific reason: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Iran
> In response to the 2019 Iranian protests, the government implemented a total Internet shutdown, reducing traffic to just 5% of normal levels
https://www.hrw.org/news/2026/03/06/iran-internet-shutdown-violates-rights-escalates-risks-to-civilians
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leisurechef5 days ago
+2
I honestly don’t care what the “status quo” is in Iran, I’m just saying if I was at war I’d shut down the internet to stop potential military intel leaks.
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MyHamburgerLovesMe5 days ago
-11
Fox News seems to be doing the same thing for America
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No-Faithlessness28795 days ago
+10
Idk what this whole obsession with Fox News is but they only average 2.85 million prime time viewers, there’s over 300 million people in America and I can assure you the vast majority don’t watch any of the major networks that aren’t impartial
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MyHamburgerLovesMe5 days ago
-1
They are Trumps propaganda department. They refuse to publish stories that embarrass him. They publish very obvious lies that compliment him.
YOU ARE AWARE OF THIS.
You just support it.
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charlies_brain5 days ago
Same here. And I am in America with a 10g fiber optic line.
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Fatzmanz5 days ago
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Americanz have the Internet and we don't either so ...nk'
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Mysterious-Oil-70945 days ago
-10
They’re also filtering/blocking and spreading disinformation in the US too so the Iranians aren’t alone…..
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Paper_Clip1005 days ago
-1
“You’re not gonna believe this… but somehow you’re winning”
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JaZepi5 days ago
-13
American Christo-fascist propaganda leaves Americans with little knowledge of how the war is actually going.
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