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Announcements Mar 24, 2020 at 4:10 PM

Introducing Listnook Polls, An All-New Post Type

Posted by LanterneRougeOG

If you’re looking for an opinion on anything — the most underrated TV show of the nineties; the very best drugstore mascara; the most athletic NFL player of all-time — there’s no better place to get honest answers and gauge consensus, than on Listnook. Today, in an effort to elevate Listnook’s diverse opinion-based content, we’re excited to introduce Polls: a brand new post type that encourages listnookors to share their opinion via voting. We’ve been testing Polls with a dozen communities over the past couple months, and have gotten a lot of great feedback. We are excited to now release this post type to everyone! **Why Polls?** It can sometimes be tough for new listnookors and lurkers to know where to start on Listnook, , and to feel a sense of community. We believe a simple post type that reduces the posting barrier will make it easier than ever for everyone to contribute to their favorite communities and engage in different ways. Here’s a look at some of our recent test polls [Viewing the results of a poll on new Listnook](https://preview.redd.it/z45s3p889no41.png?width=2356&format=png&auto=webp&s=cbd040f5e79e93b503c0a2d61378470c478e2305) ​ [Trunks...the people have spoken](https://preview.redd.it/ptccsbp89no41.png?width=1181&format=png&auto=webp&s=4c561ac017d3db3cfed95a49b5ec5dba5cc751d0) **Platform Support** * iOS: Supports poll creation and voting * Android: Supports poll creation and voting **(EDIT: there is a bug on old versions of Android that cause the app to crash for some listnookors when they vote. Updating the app to the new version will fix it.)** * New Listnook (web): Supports poll creation and voting * Old Listnook (web): Does not support creation. At the bottom of a poll, listnookors will see a link to view the poll. Clicking the link will open a new tab where they can view results and vote in the poll * Mobile web: Supports voting. No plans for poll creation support And now a poll... **With everything going on in the world, how are you feeling?** [View Poll](https://www.listnook.com/poll/fo7p5b)
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CRoseCrizzle Mar 24, 2020 +14607
This is a good idea. Probably something that should have been introduced a while ago. Happy to see listnook trying to do something new(sort of new to listnook at least).
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LanterneRougeOG Mar 24, 2020 +7830
Thanks! We are excited to see how communities use this new post type. What other ideas do you have? [We'll build them in ten years.](https://i.imgur.com/lqoUSpN.jpg)
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +3434
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dookfest Mar 24, 2020 +99
Would be great to have an AMA from somebody who works day to day deciphering fake results, bots, and other things like that. It would be fascinating to learn about this and I feel that so many people would love this
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bakonydraco Mar 24, 2020 +527
This is pretty cool! Has there been any discussion of adding this functionality in a comment instead of a post? Honestly think it might be even more effective there. We've actually built a [comments only poll tool](https://www.listnook.com/r/CFB/comments/dbhfsc/with_september_in_the_books_for_college_football/f21qfrx/) on /r/CFB that's generally been well received and add some cool color to a discussion.
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SerrinIsLatin Mar 24, 2020 +4325
I'd personally like the ability to sort my saved posts and comments into folders. I save posts for a lot of different reasons and it would allow me to organize them.
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The-Arnman Mar 24, 2020 +49
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Splyntered_Sunlyte Mar 24, 2020 +72
I love this idea. I hope they listen to this one!
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HeSaidSomething Mar 24, 2020 +95
Great for p*** collections
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UnexpectedTrebuchet Mar 24, 2020 +86
“a lot of different reasons”
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Evil_kek_ Mar 24, 2020 +17
like, i mean, who would want to have their majestic chad trebuchets mixed with lousy virgin catapults
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LouisLeGros Mar 24, 2020 +8
What kinda of person would have catapults saved in their favorites in the first place? Can't mix them with the chad trebuchets if you never contaminate the favorites in the first place.
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WayneKrane Mar 24, 2020 +146
Yeah, I have a lot of saved posts but they are all in a big list so it’s hard to find one quickly or easily.
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Juno_Malone Mar 24, 2020 +45
I've toyed with the idea of transcribing all of my saved posts to a google doc spreadsheet (i.e. hyperlink, sublistnook, my own tag(s), etc), but at this point it'd be a several hour project. I would love to see listnook implement these features instead.
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Amlethus Mar 24, 2020 +36
Create a sublistnook and crosspost all things you want to save. Then you can create tags, etc, to track them.
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djingrain Mar 24, 2020 +19
There's a script that will download all your saved posts as links and store them in an HTML file. I'll try and find the repo for it https://github.com/csu/export-saved-listnook
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DumKopfNZ Mar 24, 2020 +39
Tags would be better than folders. That way you could tag it with multiple things.
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nmp12 Mar 24, 2020 +56
I believe this is one of the perks of gold
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ItsRainbow Mar 24, 2020 +60
It’s called Premium now. Categories are indeed a Premium feature but only on Old Listnook. Either bring it everywhere else or don’t make it Premium-only ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
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Galtego Mar 24, 2020 +47
> Old Listnook you imply there is a "new listnook"
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rodinj Mar 24, 2020 +189
* P*** * P*** * P*** * Funny shit
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +67
You could have p*** then p*** categories then pornstars
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +5
I do a ton of idea gathering for how I want to plan my future desk battle station and general home decoration. Being able to sort those saved posts and comments into folder titled “Battlestation ideas” and “Home Decor ideas” would be a huge improvement to Listnook.
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not_dijkstra Mar 24, 2020 +94
If you allow polls in comments, sticky automod posts can use polls to let the community more easily determine if a post is appropriate for its community or not without leaning on comments or up/down voting the stickied comment. Being able to delete sublistnooks we made while drunk, rather than privating them forever would be neat, too. Also, while we're doing minor changes, can we get [that Jurassic Park Filesystem](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxIPcbmo1_U) as a way to explore posts?
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Derbeck6 Mar 24, 2020 +332
I think there should be a "return to where you were button for when you accidentally hit thw back to top button. It's a simple I dea i know other people would love too. So you don't have to scroll like a madman trying to get to where you were
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +45
Being able to search through my history and saved posts. And as another person said, allowing folders or categorization for saved posts.
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Russian_repost_bot Mar 24, 2020 +245
In a world of VPNs, proxies, and alt-names, are poll results even accurate? Yes [█] No [████████]
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LotharVonPittinsberg Mar 24, 2020 +76
This is totally going to be used by political subs to prove who is "right".
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +55
Please add an undo button for when you've been scrolling for hours and accidentally bring yourself back to the top.
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Jacomer2 Mar 24, 2020 +42
Has anyone higher ups at listnook considered **allowing for organizing saves posts/comments into different albums?** My saved posts are bordering on useless as there’s too many to wade through.
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rhiever Mar 24, 2020 +43
Why are all these features being added to new Listnook but not backported to old Listnook? This has been especially disparaging as a mod of a large sublistnook: there are numerous mod features that I can’t even access on old Listnook. I just don’t like the layout of new Listnook. Why is my hand being forced?
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HalfTurn Mar 24, 2020 +18
They want to force you into new listnook over time. Polls are just another feature I'll never use.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +42
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loppolia Mar 24, 2020 +12
they keep adding new stuff to new listnook, without adding the one thing that keeps me on old listnook =_=
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Order_of_Obsidian Mar 24, 2020 +14
You need to remove the 10 minute timer for established accounts with negative karma in specific subs. I've been given a 10 minute timer for literally 6 downvotes in a sub with over 22 million subscribers. If I'm not a spammer and my account is established then I do not understand why it is necessary to stifle my ability to hold multiple conversations at once in a thread. Please be aware there is a difference between holding a *disliked* opinion and holding a *rule-breaking* one. Please let the mods do their jobs and provide a path to move beyond that 10 minute timer c***.
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NegativeScythe Mar 24, 2020 +10
Being able to send someone a v.listnook post but it only be the video and not the entire thread.
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chrisd93 Mar 24, 2020 +44
Will the polls be compatible with old listnook?
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Harkoncito Mar 24, 2020 +11
i can't see the poll. i fear this feature, just like those "live feed" subs, will be another step toward the eventual phase out of old.listnook
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AlwaysLetDownMNFan Mar 24, 2020 +9
I've been hoping for listnook to do polls for a long time. It's worked really well for twitter among other platforms and I see it working well here
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NitroXSC Mar 24, 2020 +1443
Solid idea. I like it. Any work on a future image album post type? It is one of the main post types that still requires the use of Imgur.
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LanterneRougeOG Mar 24, 2020 +1048
Funny you should ask...
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +374
If you're allowed to say, how soon can we expect this? Also can we expect a feature which allows video posts from youtube to be played straight in the app instead of opening in youtube?
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kooberdoober Mar 24, 2020 +886
pls make the listnook video player not awful before getting ahead of yourself with new features.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +96
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thoeoe Mar 24, 2020 +56
I unfortunately think it's intentional. They're forcing you to send a link to the comments so that people who get sent the thing are more likely to engage with the community. Which is annoying when you don't want to.
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FreeSpeechWarrior Mar 24, 2020 +133
Don't exclude the NSFW communities from this feature as you have with others, please. Ironically p*** is the one aspect of the site that has yet to be ruined by censorship.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +1527
Won't this induce post brigading?
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LanterneRougeOG Mar 24, 2020 +1395
We hooked up our normal anti-vote cheating measures to votes in polls to ignore votes from other coordinated efforts.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +793
>anti-vote cheating measures Such as?
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LanterneRougeOG Mar 24, 2020 +2705
vote cheating stuff is intentionally vague to prevent circumvention
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AlterdCarbon Mar 24, 2020 +158
Does Listnook have SOC 2? Or any sort of compliance and/or third-party auditing procedures around user data and anti fraud mechanisms?
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +16
Sure but like, we know it doesn't actually work, because we see functional voting brigades literally all the time.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +310
Cool. I like the feature, just wanted to add my two cents
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KOM Mar 24, 2020 +106
Look, I can't *protect* your credit card and SSN if you don't *give* it to me!
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reddit_oar Mar 24, 2020 +116
> vote cheating stuff is intentionally vague to prevent circumvention IMO this is an incorrect security feature. Like election voting machines if the software is closed off there is no way to be sure other than the providers word that the system is secure. By open sourcing the code others can perform penetration testing to make it a mathematical impossibility.
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CryptoMaximalist Mar 25, 2020 +6
The difference isn't public/private, expense, or importance as other users have stated. It's threat modeling. Protecting your system from vulnerabilities is an almost completely different approach to protecting your system from bots, click farms, troll farms, and other sybil attacks. You will never find a place that shows their defense tactics against this type of threat publicly. Here is a good series to get started https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PGm8LslEb4 One other important thing to note is that "make everything public" is often the opposite of security. Information about software versions, usernames, ACLs, firewall rules, and policies should be kept private so attackers have a harder job
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michfreak Mar 24, 2020 +32
It's not necessarily smart to just openly talk about those type of things, because it makes it easier to circumvent them. "Security by obscurity" isn't great if it's your only plan, but it's a decent first measure.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +60
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JustWoozy Mar 24, 2020 +20
"poll locked due to brigading" every time it tilts the way it's not supposed to. I guarantee it.
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creativitability Mar 24, 2020 +517
I approve. Good idea, and well executed. Great animation on revealing the votes after you've casted your own. Two thumbs up.
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LanterneRougeOG Mar 24, 2020 +226
Thanks, glad to hear you like it!
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Dimonrn Mar 24, 2020 +43
Maybe a bit late to ask, but I see one pretty big problem with polling that I am curious on how you addressed it. Because there are technically two polls that occur on a polling post. The first is the amount of upvotes a poll has. This can cause some really weird confirmation bias on the polls essentially rendering them useless (ie polls that confirm what is popular by the results get upvoted more). Do you plan on doing delayed or hidden poll results for a few hours first? That way we can find genuinely popular polls without finding genuinely popular results (atleast while voting occurs).
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +103
Are sublistnooks going to have the option to disable polls?
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sodypop Mar 24, 2020 +121
Yes, moderators have the option in their sublistnook settings. We gave mods a [heads up](https://www.listnook.com/r/modnews/comments/fh28bi/a_new_polls_post_type_is_coming_soon/) about the feature in advance so they could choose whether to allow them.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +18
Just curious... why is your name blue in this answer and red in all the others?
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zach797a Mar 24, 2020 +30
Admins have the option to “Post as Admin”, turning their name red. Otherwise they can comment normally like the rest of us.
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TheRealMikeNelly Mar 24, 2020 +242
I can't tell why exactly, but I'm personally sort of thriving through this whole situation of being stuck in my apartment. I feel like society has been given a chance to coalesce into a stronger united force, a chance to reach out and make stronger bonds in our own smaller communities, and an opportunity to self-evaluated and make active choices of what we want to see back in the world when we start back up again. It's wild and rife with opportunity. Let's just tackle it together as best we can!
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iamthatis Mar 24, 2020 +2200
This looks awesome, congrats on shipping it! Question: currently there's an API to vote in polls, but it's only available to the official Listnook app (it's available via the GraphQL API, which is locked to the official app). I tried building it into my app and it was easy and worked well, but only once I changed my app key to that of the official app (all the calls failed with my app's key). (To non-programmers, API is just fancy developer talk for a way to use a feature in programming, a "voting API" is just "a way for us to use Listnook voting in our apps", Listnook currently has a voting API, posting API, commenting API, etc.) Third party Listnook apps for iOS, Android, etc. (such as Listnook is Fun, Listnook Sync, Relay for Listnook, Joey, Bacon Reader, Boost, Narwhal, Apollo, Slide, Antenna, Beam, etc.) are unable to access this and have to rely on the gross "link users to a separate webpage Listnook where they have to sign in" solution if users want to vote and be able to see the results of a poll. Are you planning to make the current API available for third party apps? If not, why not?
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ThisAfricanboy Mar 24, 2020 +175
They wanna sell ads on their subpar official app so every new feature that they introduce will not be available on these API. New Listnook users will mostly download said subpar app and the cycle continues as this once exciting, vibrant community turns into commercialised garbage and we all move to a new site. At first I thought all the admin hate on these posts were a bit much but now I understand. It sucks seeing a place you love turn into what dragged you away from the drivel that is other social media.
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VonFluffington Mar 24, 2020 +364
>If not, why not? I appreciate you trying to get them to say it, but in the likely case of silence from them I think it's pretty safe to assume that they're trying to push people to their app with things like this. Ain't gonna work on a lot of us, but they'll keep trying.
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TransLeftist Mar 24, 2020 +301
It won't work on a lot of us because the official listnook app is f****** garbage
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Not_dM Mar 24, 2020 +27
Yup. If (when) they shut down old.listnook and third-party apps, it's probably bye bye listnook for me :-(
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duffnut Mar 24, 2020 +113
This feature isn’t important enough for me to use Listnook’s deeply lacking iOS app. Super anti-user move on Listnook’s part. I hope the admins at least have the integrity to respond honestly to your concerrns. Apollo all the way.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +19
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N1ghtshade3 Mar 24, 2020 +32
> Perhaps because 3rd party apps generally do not show ads Last I checked, /r/pics is still accessible from all 3rd-party apps.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +562
This is the developer of Apollo in case anyone here or the mods don't know who /u/iamthatis is We like him
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iamthatis Mar 24, 2020 +382
Thank you! To be clear don't want to make this about my app, it's but one on a sea of amazing options out there (and I include the official app in that!). Options are great, and traditionally Listnook's always been great to us which is why this is a little weird. Especially given that years back Twitter did the same, weirdly [restricting the polls API to only themselves](https://blog.iconfactory.com/2017/11/a-poll-by-any-other-name/) but the CEO of Twitter recently even saying [that was a mistake](https://twitter.com/TwitterNews/status/1187463865518432256).
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +95
Your humility is always appreciated and respected. Thanks for being on top of stuff like this - the voting didn't work for me and I was like oh I should let our dev know and boom there you are already takin' care of business. Thanks for the excellent work you do.
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iamthatis Mar 24, 2020 +71
Thanks, I try! :P Yeah they put out an announcement awhile back that they were testing it out so I tried playing around with it and was a little sad.
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Spyzilla Mar 24, 2020 +48
I really hope they make it available. It would suck not to be able to participate just because I’m not using the branded app.
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dlonr_space Mar 24, 2020 +29
I was concerned about Apollo more than the listnook poll itself. Good to see that Christian is in the front line again! Great job!
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +212
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SRTHellKitty Mar 24, 2020 +15
There was a better conversation under the shrug of a reply. [Check it out](https://www.listnook.com/r/announcements/comments/fo7p5b/introducing_listnook_polls_an_allnew_post_type/fldpeu5)
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imaginexus Mar 24, 2020 +18
I was on my way to r/apolloapp to see if you’ll support this but you’re already here on the frontlines I see. Hope they give access to this API.
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Gamecrazy721 Mar 24, 2020 +10
The lack of response means I probably will never use this feature, unfortunately. I'm an exclusive Listnook is Fun user
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +75
Why is your name purple on my phone
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iamthatis Mar 24, 2020 +300
You're using my app. :P I made my name purple to people using my app because some people were impersonating me with similar usernames so it should help with being like a verification check almost.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +67
Oh! Cool. Thanks for making it, best IOS listnook app I’ve found after leaving Android
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +48
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iamthatis Mar 24, 2020 +68
I hope not to, it's been 5 years and I love my job. :D
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Living-Anxiety Mar 24, 2020 +12
Damn it’s been 5 years? I remember when Apollo was announced. It was the only app that was as good/better than alien blue.
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iamthatis Mar 24, 2020 +16
Thanks my friend, yeah, my blog's only post is its announcement, haha. https://christianselig.com/2015/01/30/announcing-apollo-a-gorgeous-listnook-app-for-iphone/
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sinrakin Mar 24, 2020 +10
Really good response. If this isn't available on third party apps, I won't be using polls.
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gold_tie Mar 24, 2020 +585
Are users' votes linked to their profiles like comments? Is there any way to see underlying data or how specific people voted in a poll? For posters, users, mods, or admins? Or third parties? I do not like the existing programs that convince people to answer small poll questions over time then record the data to build psychological profiles to sell to advertisers. I skeptically see that as the purpose for this.
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Irrepressible87 Mar 25, 2020 +22
Ah, but you're missing a key piece in the cynical puzzle here. If they leave out a "see results" button, then people who are just casually browsing without an account won't be able to see the results. So now, Joe Schmo sees a poll and really wants to know the results, all of a sudden, he's got to create an account, *and* vote, so Listnook can point to both a new account *and* bump user participation in one fell swoop.
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Asuma01 Mar 24, 2020 +104
Thank you! FINALLY someone that see's the truth and the real reason. Not one mention of privacy in the announcement.
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fathermocker Mar 24, 2020 +222
Great job devs! But you should look at Telegram's Poll API. Obvious stuff that is missing: - Option to not show results until poll is done - Allowing only users with a certain karma threshold and account age to participate - More than six options - Enable or disable anonymous voting - Support for other unofficial apps and for old listnook.
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TheMeiguoren Mar 24, 2020 +73
All that, and allow for the poll maker to let people select multiple options. Checkboxes vs radio boxes. Should include the ability to submit without checking any. Eg: Which of the following genres of metal do you listen to? ☐ Celtic Metal ☐ Doom Metal ☐ Black Metal ☐ Grindcore ☐ Progressive Metal ☐ Nu-Metal
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Bluth-President Mar 24, 2020 +10
Most importantly: I could vote from /all without seeing the question. That’s a major UX issue.
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Deefling Mar 24, 2020 +130
This will be very convenient for subs like aita and insaneparents, would there be a way for a sub to have a standardized poll and then have it be sortable by results of poll? Ex: let's say r/AmITheAsshole implements a poll that goes on every post with identical choices. Could it be made so that I could sort by whether it was more TA or more NTA, or sort by total number of votes
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cultoftheilluminati Mar 24, 2020 +27
Well if it isn’t gonna be available to third party apps, these subs are gonna cut out a huge proportion of their user base by using these polls
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sircat31415 Mar 24, 2020 +18
NTA play stupid games win stupid prizes
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +347
Mods everywhere should be aware that "no opinion/show results" is a must-have option for polls. Allows people to see results without skewing the data.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +79
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +65
Surely these polls won't manipulated by the thousands and thousands of Listnook accounts that are run by astroturfers. Just like the rest of Listnook is 100% organic with no manipulation from corporations, governments, etc. Anyone who thinks Listnook's current policies regarding vote cheating, brigading etc are truthful/transparent is an idiot. Listnook admins are all liars
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NostalgiaSchmaltz Mar 24, 2020 +220
>Old Listnook (web): Does not support creation. And so it begins. Adding major features to the site that don't work with the old layout, slowly forcing everyone to use the new layout. Nice.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +52
Yeah they conveniently hid that at the bottom of the post. This seems like it will have huge effects on the ability to use old listnook. Tbh it’s a good strategy to push people into new listnook without closing old listnook but it’s pretty shady. Eventually with enough features on nee listnook only they’ll be able to say “oh very few people are using old listnook so we’re closing it.”
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NostalgiaSchmaltz Mar 24, 2020 +64
I just hate the new design because it's trying so hard to copy Facebook. No, I don't want Listnook to look like Facebook, I want it to look like Listnook.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +17
Yep. I feel the same way. I get why they did it but it really just isn’t an upgrade from a user experience perspective.
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thecescshow Mar 25, 2020 +9
I'm willing to adapt to the new layout but good god i absolutely hate endless scrolling. The 25 posts per page of old listnook is just perfect for me.
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Tyler1986 Mar 24, 2020 +39
I'll never use the new layout. I'll use old, I'll use a 3rd party tool that provides the same layout, or I'll quit using the site.
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thecescshow Mar 25, 2020 +12
Yep they're treating old listnook like Windows XP now. It's a matter of time until ppl are being forced yo completely use the new listnook.
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matheod Mar 25, 2020 +21
I am more concerned with > Mobile web: Supports voting. No plans for poll creation support They are limiting mobile web to force people to use their f****** app.
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SmurfRockRune Mar 24, 2020 +177
Love the idea, but why can I not make polls in old listnook? I'll never use new listnook because there's no reason to change perfection. Would love the ability to make polls in the future.
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noratat Mar 24, 2020 +25
Yeah, I still hate the redesign, and would rather stop using listnook entirely than be forced to use that trainwreck. Can't even scroll through a post without random nonsense getting in the way. One of my favorite things about listnook was/is the simplicity and accessibility, which got thrown out the window with the redesign. Old listnook + RES is still a way better experience.
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SmurfRockRune Mar 24, 2020 +14
For sure. The RES devs understand the charm and appeal of listnook way more than the listnook admins themselves do.
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YannisALT Mar 24, 2020 +27
old.listnook was no where near "perfection". It is still preferable to the shit redesign though. Doesn't matter. Listnook was not making real profit with old.listnook, so it's no loss for them to make a change and to try to move forward. So new.listnook is what you're eventually going to be stuck with when old.listnook starts to fizzled out because of too many conflicts with the new layout they're concentrating on.
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SmurfRockRune Mar 24, 2020 +31
I'll either stop using listnook entirely or get an extension to change to old listnook when that day comes. I will _never_ use new listnook.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +18
Third-party mobile Listnook apps are way better than desktop browser new.listnook, although desktop browser old.listnook is still the best. If they drop old.listnook, I will switch to strictly mobile for my Listnook consumption.
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echotoneface Mar 24, 2020 +45
New Listnook is cancer, I'll never not use old Listnook when possible. So if this feature isn't on old Listnook, it's worthless to me
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MarcsterS Mar 24, 2020 +26
Yeah, it's kinda dumb, but I probably won't be making polls anyways.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +160
>Old Listnook (web): Does not support creation. At the bottom of a poll, listnookors will see a link to view the poll. Clicking the link will open a new tab where they can view results and vote in the poll Bro. ~~Nobody likes~~ a lot of people don't like New Listnook.
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Turtledonuts Mar 24, 2020 +31
Let's get a old listnook / new listnook poll to the front page.
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Stakeboulder Mar 24, 2020 +59
Aaaand here comes your first bug report with this new feature: When scrolling through the home feed, the post is collapsed but the poll isn't. However only poll answers/ optiones are visible but not the poll question: [https://imgur.com/a/5UXV2VJ](https://imgur.com/a/5UXV2VJ) Overall a great feature. Looking forward to use it a lot!
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Alastol Mar 24, 2020 +12
The app crashes on my phone every time I press on the poll. [I took a screenshot of a part of the crash report](https://imgur.com/a/fsQWkOa)
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altaltaltpornaccount Mar 24, 2020 +58
>there’s no better place to get honest answers and gauge consensus, than on Listnook. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAJAHAJAHAJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHSHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Thanks. With all this COVID-19 stuff going on, I think we could all use a good laugh.
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DeathHopper Mar 24, 2020 +388
> there’s no better place to get honest answers and gauge consensus, than on Listnook. LMAO ok
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Psychast Mar 24, 2020 +102
If Listnook wan an indicator of consensus in the least then Bernie would've been president twice by now. These polls will gauge the consensus of Listnook, which if you've been here long enough you don't need a poll to gauge.
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tpx187 Mar 24, 2020 +39
Shit Ron Paul would have beaten Obama if you been here that long and remember
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cadaada Mar 24, 2020 +21
And brexit would not ever have happened. And a genocide would be going on probably.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +27
I can only imagine polls on /r/politics. Soon we’ll be seeing polls showing Beto’s roommate’s dog is more popular politically than Biden.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +25
> Old Listnook (web): Does not support creation. At the bottom of a poll, listnookors will see a link to view the poll. Clicking the link will open a new tab where they can view results and vote in the poll This might as well not exist then.
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mdak06 Mar 24, 2020 +11
Can users creating polls decide whether or not they want those voting in the poll to be able to select multiple options or will all polls only allow users to select one option? (i.e. can polls utilize approval voting or is it all restricted to first past the post / plurality voting?)
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +108
>there’s no better place to get honest answers and gauge consensus, than on Listnook. lol
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ShooterMcStabbins Mar 24, 2020 +29
Can’t wait for these to get manipulated to hell. Another great marketing and propaganda tool no doubt. Should have some cool applications and some fun polls but this will undoubtedly be used inappropriately and we should be cautious what we take as true consensus.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +277
>Old Listnook (web): Does not support creation. Shows how much listnook devs care about their most dedicated users.
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Sxtus Mar 24, 2020 +31
Eh, I don't really care for the polls. As long as I have old.listnook and Listnook is fun (RIF) for Android, I'm one happy guy.
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justabill71 Mar 24, 2020 +203
Yup. Since there's so many admins in here, let me just say: THE REDESIGN STILL SUCKS.
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TheBeardedSingleMalt Mar 24, 2020 +107
> Doesn't work in Old, doesn't work in any app besides the official app Well then I won't be participating. rif for life!
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Pece17 Mar 24, 2020 +35
Fingers crossed RIF will stay as it is now. If they for some reason ruin this app in future, I might just quit Listnook altogether.
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htmlcoderexe Mar 24, 2020 +12
they already are taking potshots at RiF, last thi g was about the name
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byerss Mar 24, 2020 +27
I went to listnook on a new computer and got caught in a mental loop reloading the page multiple times because I kept thinking it was redirecting to msn.com or some shit.
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nwL_ Mar 24, 2020 +47
New Listnook is about as responsive as me when told to wash the dishes. It’s incredible that people stay on Listnook after using it as their first impression.
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Anonacount1 Mar 24, 2020 +4
This was probably a HUGE factor in this release. Not only are people/comments happy for this announcement they are accepting or tolerating being subject to a small new motive for using new listnook, that surely will switch a % of users over. In the future, these small little motives will continue to progress, especially as the % of users continues to switch over to new listnook (which I absolutely despise)
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Teh_Skully Mar 24, 2020 +13
This is what makes me laugh, they use a post on r/nfl as an example, when if you look, the admins there are pro CSS and refused to use the new design a few years ago
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Alaira314 Mar 24, 2020 +24
Did anyone actually think that old listnook would continue to be supported for new features? This is a phase-out. Don't get me wrong, I'll be using it for as long as possible, but I'm not fooling myself that it'll get any new toys or be reverted. It's more than I expected that it can interact with polls at all. Y'all do know that one day we'll log in and old.listnook.com will redirect to the new page, right?
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +49
>Y'all do know that one day we'll log in and old.listnook.com will redirect to the new page, right? It's like nobody remembers Digg. When Digg tried forcing everyone over to a new version, all the users jumped ship and went to listnook. I was one of them. It killed their site.
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CalcProgrammer1 Mar 24, 2020 +24
Listnook is where it is today because of Digg's colossal f***-up. Digg bit the hands that fed them by forcing its users into a shitty ad-centric redesign and we jumped ship. Digg went from one of the top sites on the Internet to dead in the water in a few years after that. The writing has been on the wall for 10 years now. Listnook is no different. If they force the shitty redesign on us we leave and find a new home. It's won't be the first time it's happened.
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NaethanC Mar 24, 2020 +11
I hate to say it, but Listnook has evolved from what it once was. Most users use mobile as their primary way of browsing listnook now. It won't kill listnook if they force us to use redesign, it'll just piss a fair chunk of the users off.
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N1ghtshade3 Mar 24, 2020 +8
But their mobile app sucks too; I just downloaded it to see what all the fuss was about. Right away, I didn't like how posts were formatted as enormous cards that took up literally half the screen. So I looked for a way to show more posts per page. Thankfully the option was easy to find on the top right corner, but after switching to "Classic" mode--the only other option--I could still only see four or five posts per page rather than the eight to ten I get on RiF. Given that there seemed to be no way to efficiently browse content in the app, I deleted it. I hope their designer gets fired; they belong somewhere like Apple where they can design products that make users' choices for them to their heart's content.
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ChristianM Mar 24, 2020 +31
> Did anyone actually think that old listnook would continue to be supported for new features? Since so many people still use it? Yes, I was expecting that.
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pathtracer Mar 24, 2020 +28
When I was complaining about the new shitty design, I was told that "old" listnook will continue to be supported indefinitely, so yes, I was expecting them to not make new features exclusive
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Alaira314 Mar 24, 2020 +11
This is what we call a life lesson, then. Those of us who've experienced this sort of thing before knew exactly what that statement meant: "we're not taking this away from you (yet), we'll continue allowing access (for a while), but our focus for development will be on the new page(and as things break on the old one, people will move to the new one...then when enough people have made the switch, the old one will go away.)"
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pathtracer Mar 24, 2020 +11
Yep that's exactly what I was complaining about when they introduced Facebook Listnook
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human_error Mar 24, 2020 +19
I can't seem to get an old.listnook link for the poll in the OP to work (replacing www. with old. just results in a 404). Is there a link to the post for us old.listnook users to see what a post looks like if there is an attached poll? As an aside the view poll link forcing me to see "new" (not old) listnook reminded me how terribad new listnook is for me. Is there no chance for getting full poll functionality in old listnook without needing to open new pages?
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1kIslandStare Mar 24, 2020 +183
I don't like the redesign and I don't like that you're making features exclusive to it
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ThatLeetGuy Mar 25, 2020 +14
New interface looks like a Facebook feed and its disgusting.
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TheStataMan Mar 24, 2020 +17
Is there any way this is going to bused for instance for follow-up post types? Say I started a poll x weeks ago on some sublistnook that I moderate and I would like to bring it up later - would direct linking just the image portion be possible rather than linking to the original thread?
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YARA2020 Mar 24, 2020 +73
Oh look, another way for hoards of bots and agenda-seeking astroturfers to sway opinions on a giant social media site. Color me shocked.
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hallaquelle Mar 24, 2020 +35
Hard downvote for lack of support on "old" listnook web and third-party clients. Those are the only ways I use listnook, and the only ways I will ever use listnook, so this feature is useless and non-existent to me. Stop shoving your shitty redesign and app down users throats.
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plo435 Mar 24, 2020 +116
Why such limited support for old listnook? I feel like there are still a lot of users who don't want to switch to new listnook.
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SmurfRockRune Mar 24, 2020 +31
The majority of people still use old listnook, I feel like. Of the dozens of people I know that use listnook, literally not one of them uses the new version.
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Peter_Mansbrick Mar 24, 2020 +20
[here're the stats from one of my subs](https://i.imgur.com/OjyPGyk.png) ~~New and Old users more or less balance out. It's mobile that's taken over.~~
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +27
New listnook is probably better for ad revenue, at the cost of user experience. They'll probably delete old listnook in a year or two.
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RuggedToaster Mar 24, 2020 +14
They'll never straight out delete it to save the outrage. They'll just make it unusable in terms of features or lack thereof.
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Methican Mar 25, 2020 +11
Clearly the point of Listnook. The Chinese running this place need to be a little more stealth. "Why Polls? It can sometimes be tough for new listnookors and lurkers to know where to start on Listnook, , and to feel a sense of community. " In other words, if you're confused about posting somewhere check out Listnook polls to see what everyone else thinks just to make sure you fall in line with the hive mind before you get any crazy ideas about posting something that doesn't conform.
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RaceCarRIGHTNOW7 Mar 24, 2020 +36
> the most underrated TV show of the nineties; the very best drugstore mascara; the most athletic NFL player of all-time — there’s no better place to get honest answers and gauge consensus, than on Listnook. Why are all your examples about PRODUCTS? And why are you so naive to think that anyone would care what a Listnookor thinks? I thought you were going to be Digg 2.0, not Buzzfeed 2.0.
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cdcformatc Mar 24, 2020 +10
Because listnook is trying to increase their ability to monetize. Everything the staff proposes to implement has to have a dollar value attached or else it will get a quick NO from the CEO and sales team. That's also why it is not implemented for old listnook, the inability to monetize.
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seventenninetyeight Mar 24, 2020 +13
People do care, the people who work at marketing companies and those listnook can sell this data to.
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Alpha_Whiskey_Golf Mar 24, 2020 +13
>Doesn't work on old listnook. Welp i guess another feature i'll gladly miss. New listnook is a dealbreaker. No facebook-ification for me, thanks.
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USShrek Mar 24, 2020 +222
r/AmItheAsshole will be so glad that this exists now
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SmiteyMcGee Mar 24, 2020 +39
Along with AskListnook and all their loaded questions...
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Daniiiiii Mar 24, 2020 +54
No, I will not take the 48 billion dollars if it means one ant has to die.
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duffmannn Mar 24, 2020 +24
If you were hoping to have the s*** sex which one of these grills would you sex to. A. Anime griL. 2 BTGG D. bathwather gamer §. TikTokThot
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Novahkiin22 Mar 24, 2020 +211
So, my app crashes instantly when I try voting...
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +31
Now we can use a poll to show Listnook what to spend effort on. I go for option 4: Fix the mobile video player. It's garbage.
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SmurfRockRune Mar 24, 2020 +12
Or just get rid of the native player altogether. It's awful.
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BitcoinXio Mar 24, 2020 +25
Viewing polls on old.listnook gives an error, for example in your poll: https://old.listnook.com/poll/fo7p5b
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +19
How they want us to react: "Oh, I should switch to the redesign!" How we actually react: "Not happening bro"
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +43
“diverse opinion-based content” Excellent job listnook, as we all know this is the most free platform to share our opinions, without any kind of bias from the moderators.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +14
Totally, it's not like there are the same teams of power moderators and karma farmers controlling almost all of Listnook!
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +30
this new "feature" is going to lead to this website being co-opted by disinformation, bots, and active measures more than it already is. great job!
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bacon_flavored Mar 24, 2020 +7
As one of the heaviest initial users of Listnook Ads when it was released, and by the current state of their self service sub, I can safely assure you the site is already a majority bots and shills.
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bL_Mischief Mar 24, 2020 +12
So how long before these polls are intentionally doctored or gamed to push listnook-approved narratives or for data selling purposes? This isn't about giving users something, this is about market research and making money for the admins.
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anillop Mar 24, 2020 +16
A New and innovative way to gather data on you to sell to advertisers.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +7
>there’s no better place to get honest answers and gauge consensus, than on Listnook. That is f****** hilarious and extremely arrogant.
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[deleted] Mar 24, 2020 +47
Forcing people to use new listnook that everyone hates. Well done.
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SamBellFromSarang Mar 24, 2020 +51
Nice, can't wait for the echochamber effect to get worse :P
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phlux Mar 24, 2020 +43
#F*** YOU LISTNOOK I've been here daily for #13 f****** years. I asked for this feature multiple times over 10 years ago, and you idiots shot me down every time -- but NOW, all of a sudden when /u/spez stated he could sway elections, you assholes roll out this feature? I am POSITIVE you will be manipulating the data. I dont trust you.
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arealhumannotabot Mar 24, 2020 +21
A great way to use meta data and collect valuable marketing information to sell
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