>Maritime analytics firm Windward reported a total of 20 transits of the Strait - 14 outbound and 6 inbound - in a 24 hour period on Sunday. This is the highest number of transits since war started on 28 February but only a seventh of the historic average of 138 per day.
I think article is originally from WSJ (paywall):
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/iran-war-news-2026/card/15-ships-transit-strait-of-hormuz-in-24-hours-iranian-media-says-vKWkLZxfqC7xl80cpMm0
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WeAreElectricity5 days ago
+981
Which countries?
981
Angry_beaver_18675 days ago
+2292
Oil is pretty fungible. So oil going to any one country benefits all countries as they have one fewer competitor.
That said. The situation is still shit
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chriszimort5 days ago
+1425
A+ use of the word ‘fungible’
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Thommohawk1175 days ago
+791
Man, I haven't seen the word 'fungible' since the NFT days
791
Shkkzikxkaj5 days ago
+321
lol imagine after watching the last 500 years of economic history people actually thought what currency really needs to be successful is to be less fungible
321
Thommohawk1175 days ago
+103
My favourite part of that saga was someone describing the whole thing as a plot hole
It was all soooo stupid
103
1013755 days ago
+168
My favourite part was when some of the worlds most punchable people lost a bunch of money.
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chriszimort5 days ago
+44
But no one’s tokens turned into mushrooms so that part of it was true at least
44
3d_extra5 days ago
+49
A lot of them received the NFTs for free and the "purchase" was used to hype NFTs. Especially all the bored apes.
49
klutzikaze5 days ago
+6
I'd love to know if the parties that bought those "assets" gave people lifetime accords to are still held but no one turns up?
Editted a verb tense
6
SYLOH5 days ago
+26
Yeah, I'm low-key proud I never understood a single usecase for the technology.
All the usecases required a single trusted authority to enforce ownership.
Which could then do the tracking for cheaper with a central database, and the security could be ensured with off-site backups.
Like that stupid "usecase" of selling tickets for a concert or event. The doorman still needs to exclude those without tickets, his organization might as well run the centralized database.
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eric234565 days ago
+49
There was a simple, easy to understand use case for the technology: Fraud.
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wintersdark5 days ago
+15
Yup. Same as with things like items in games and the like, NFT's where nonsense as it would be easier to roll your own server regardless - you'd need most of it either way, so the NFT/blockchain component was wholly unnecessary.
Every single use case presented left me thinking... Ok, but we can do that without NFT's, so... Why bother complicating it?
Like so many recent tech innovations, they aren't solutions to problems, they're just ideas that people then go looking for problems to apply them to. It's backwards.
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TheCrimsonDagger5 days ago
+13
In theory you could do things like tying digital game licenses to an NFT rather than a specific account. It’s could be used as a digital certificate of ownership over anything that isn’t controlled by a central party. So you could sell your license to someone else without any middleman. There’s quite a few use cases for this type of thing. Problem is that we already have other centralized systems for those things that work and are deeply entrenched into everything. Any *potential* benefits make no sense compared to the *certain* cost and risks of even attempting it.
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FyreWulff5 days ago
+5
It was funny because in a few cases where they wanted transactions where NFTs were stolen or undersold from a famous person or notable influencer reversed the entity that made the NFT chain or the shitcoin just forked the chain and told everyone they were only gonna acknowledge the new one, thus defeating the point of blockchain
5
Scu-bar5 days ago
+19
All those apes, gone. Like tears in the rain…
19
yourpseudonymsucks5 days ago
+114
Ah yes. Able to be turned into a mushroom.
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reasonb4belief5 days ago
+13
Are any other words fungible with fungible?
13
PantsOnHead885 days ago
+17
Interchangeable or indistinguishable are probably closest, but are less specific in their application.
17
goingfullretard-orig5 days ago
+12
Bunghole
12
okram2k5 days ago
+88
I had the fun job of trying to explain global markets to my family over Easter dinner today as they complained about gas prices here being affected by an event on the other side of the world.
88
claimTheVictory5 days ago
+72
They'll still find a way to blame Democrats.
72
TinFoilBeanieTech4 days ago
+27
They're starting to shift to "Kamala would have been worse."
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claimTheVictory4 days ago
+10
That works for anything, doesn't it?
Trump bombed a school. "Kamala would have bombed 10 schools".
10
_iAm90015 days ago
+61
I am concerned about the fertilizer now.
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intoned5 days ago
+43
It's fungible in a market where supply (inc logistics) is available to meet demand.
We no longer live in that world right now. Nobody who's getting oil from the gulf has extra to funge with.
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hedoeswhathewants5 days ago
+21
It's still fungible, hence the concept of a singular global supply of oil.
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intoned4 days ago
+3
Except for, and this is key... and the subject of the post...
Iran is deciding who gets to transit oil out of gulf through the straight and what are valid destinations.
3
Kenna1935 days ago
+105
Iraq was rumored to be allowed to let their ships through
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SameCategory5465 days ago
+37
but they dont really have international oil tankers, unfortunately.
37
Forsaken_Counter_8875 days ago
+25
There's about to be a lot of ships registering Basrah as their home port
25
MyDogJake15 days ago
+123
I read somewhere that Spain had been green listed. I'd assume China would also be on the list too.
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OneThirstyJ5 days ago
+87
China is literally still sending them drone supplies and US is counting it like it’s a good thing when a Chinese ship goes through
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William_Dowling5 days ago
+100
The US have lifted sanctions on Iranian oil, so could very well be Iranian sales. Seriously, you read that right - the US _lifted_ sanctions on Iranian oil.
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inspectoroverthemine5 days ago
+45
I did a double take on your first sentence, so the second was a nice confirmation. Actually happened a few weeks ago.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/20/us-sanctions-iranian-oil
I feel like I should have known this already, but I guess my consolation is that it doesn't affect my view of the war or the administration in the slightest.
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koshgeo4 days ago
+6
It really makes you wonder about Trump's definition of "winning".
No wonder he's posting late-night tirades on Easter. I swear the guy gets angrier and more cruel on holidays.
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odiervr4 days ago
+22
And our good friends the Russians. LIFTED sanctions on Russian oil.
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AssistX4 days ago
+7
> China is literally still sending them drone supplies and US is counting it like it’s a good thing when a Chinese ship goes through
China is the primary supplier of drone parts for Europe and the world, including Ukraine(85-90% of the drone) for their defense against Russia. They're also the primary supplier of parts for Russia. So yeah, it's a good thing for everyone unfortunately.
7
NoDoze-5 days ago
+11
It's interesting how there is no info on that.
11
AniNgAnnoys5 days ago
+37
Watch, "What's going on with shipping" on YouTube. Sal has the best coverage on the shipping side of the war.
https://youtube.com/@wgowshipping
I am sure he will cover this in his next video.
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odiervr4 days ago
+3
Great info, thanks !
3
Ezl4 days ago
+7
Not sure the specific countries but!
> Iran claims the Strait remains open except to vessels belonging to nations attacking Iran and nations supporting attacks on Iran. Iraqi vessels have been granted specific permission to transit the Strait, according to statements on Iran's state media. A statement from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy said the Strait will never return to its former state, especially for the US and Israel.
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theanswerisinthedata5 days ago
+82
The more interesting question is “what currency was the oil purchased with”. Iran should ensure oil traded through the strait is purchased with anything but the petrodollar. 20% of the global oil traded with a different petrocurrency would have a big negative impact on the US economy.
82
ThunderingSloth5 days ago
+17
I think I saw something in another thread talking about Iran selling oil to India for rupees, but I think there was also mention of an exchange of pharmaceuticals for the oil as well.
17
voidyman4 days ago
+4
This seems to be my recollection too. It was essentially a barter with INR as the intermediary currency for calculating the value.
4
TheTechTutor5 days ago
+21
From my understanding it’s all in Chinese yuan
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erov5 days ago
+26
The countries that are not their enemy or aiding their enemy. They have stated this several times. The strait is open.
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Shlocktroffit5 days ago
+715
I liked this part the best:
>A statement from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy said the Strait will never return to its former state, especially for the US and Israel.
715
thirtyone-charlie5 days ago
+146
Not in our lifetime
146
Mac20004445 days ago
+97
The U.S. barely had any oil tankers passing through it, what matters is everyone else's ability to get their ships through.
If this virtue signal against America, that means nothing to them and anyone, ends the war by saving their face that'd be great.
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AlexTightJuggernaut5 days ago
+93
No ships, but previously all the dollars. Worst case scenario for the US is if shipping recovers, but the oil traded through the straight is no longer being sold with USD.
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Haber_Dasher5 days ago
+42
Yeah they've been saying they'll let ships through from non-hostile nations if they pay the toll in Chinese currency iirc, which directly undermines the petro-dollar. This could end with free passage for everyone else without even paying a toll but if Iran just says "but only if the shipment isn't paid for in USD" then it would be devastating for the US economy & hegemony
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lord_of_tits4 days ago
+5
Guess trump is champion of both the environment and anti capitalist! Less oil and death to american capitalism! Being sarcastic but yet its somehow true, i don't even know to be happy or not!
5
Zuwxiv5 days ago
+49
The *worst case scenario* for the US is extremely few transits that absolutely destroy the global supply chain, particularly for fertilizer and microchip production. The US may not rely on the strait directly for oil, but the companies that produce materials and products for the US *definitely do*. This would be extremely high inflation + great depression level of economic impact. Even food would skyrocket in price. Additionally, Taiwan would be vulnerable and China would be hard-pressed to ignore depleted US munitions while Taiwan's valuable microchip production is bottlenecked. We could see another Great Depression with China taking Taiwan and becoming the undisputed center of microprocessor production, effectively strangling any other country's attempts to develop AI infrastructure.
A still quite bad scenario is as you described.
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hawkeye2245 days ago
+35
Yeah if all other ships but US and Israel can pass that’s a really good scenario
35
CitizenCue5 days ago
+24
It’s honestly the only realistic outcome at this point that isn’t a total disaster.
24
TheThunderbird5 days ago
+10
It's not realistic. The GCC states have been allied with the US against Iran since the Iranian Revolution and are now hosting the US attacks on Iran. If GCC ships move again under the current Iranian regime, it will almost certainly be under tolled conditions that allow Iran to effectively control their economies. At this point, the GCC countries can't live with Iran controlling the Strait, and Iran can't live without it.
10
Semyaz5 days ago
+156
Praise be to allah. 🙄
156
Ditka855 days ago
+2455
Normal traffic pre-Trump was ~150 per day.
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[deleted]5 days ago
+508
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Ditka855 days ago
+318
Correct. Even if everything was wide open at full production (which isn’t possible because of infrastructure damage) there would be catastrophic delays. The lack of fertilizer alone is going to cause huge problems with food growth globally.
Unfortunately, it will get worse before it gets much worse.
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Bjanze5 days ago
+63
The lack of fertilizer and effects of that is probably one aspect thst was thought much less than oil, but now during spring Europe would like some fertilizing the fields.
63
vba74 days ago
+7
Oh it was thought out... by Putin.
Europe is weaker. USA is weaker.
All Putin had to do was to help Republicans win.
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ComeOnIWantUsername5 days ago
+3
According to what I found, I don't see any fertilizer import from that region:
https://wits.worldbank.org/trade/comtrade/en/country/EUN/year/2024/tradeflow/Imports/partner/ALL/product/31
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Bjanze5 days ago
+7
The Finnish news I follow were writing about potential lack if fertilizer affecting sowing crops this spring. I think it was urea and ammonia that were the exports, not "ready fertilizer". Can't find the source now...
7
ComeOnIWantUsername5 days ago
+5
Oh, right. I didn't think about it and checked just for finished product
5
JaxStrumley5 days ago
+244
And we should not forget who are to blame: American voters.
244
oftheunusual5 days ago
+25
Just remember that at least some of us have known better for a long time. My disdain for the rest of American voters has driven irreparable wedges with family. I've been fighting this since 2015.
25
HotTakes4HotCakes4 days ago
+15
Why should they? The world has no obligation to humor us in this.
We can pretend we're the good guys and did everything we could, but we didn't. We had 4 years to put this criminal in jail. We could have been on the streets *every week* protesting until he was locked up.
But we didn't.
Even the people opposing him still fundamentally failed to meet the gravity of the moment. And now it's too late for "No Kings" protests. It's too late to wring our hands about non-voters. It's too late for everything.
15
Pathetic_Old_Moose4 days ago
+11
Collectively it’s Americas fault for this and the rest of the world does look down on you guys.
11
ragequitCaleb4 days ago
+3
Agreed, its all u/oftheunusual fault for not single handedly overthrowing his government.
3
illuminarok5 days ago
+8
Same here. I haven't been to Christmas or Thanksgiving in two years and it was on very thin ice for the six years prior to that.
8
PhoenixPills5 days ago
+12
Haven't talked to Dad since 2016. I knew immediately. Cousins blocked me because I asked questions. Bridges burned lmao
12
G00b3rb0y5 days ago
+34
Yup. And i can’t see it getting better ever again. We are cooked as a species
34
Sonamdrukpa5 days ago
+60
Au contraire, we finally found a way to stop global warming
60
Day_drinker5 days ago
+26
And apparently lots of data center projects are being paused or cancelled.
26
Wild-Kitchen5 days ago
+7
Yay, prices of hard drives night come down a little
7
Sonamdrukpa5 days ago
+16
Lol good luck when chip production needs helium from Qatar
16
MessMaximum54935 days ago
+5
When the Orange fool starts bombing on Tuesday all the oil in the middle east is going up in flames when Iran retaliates, that's gonna cancel out all the gains lol
5
KenBoCole5 days ago
+61
If an single straight being closed can be catastrophic to the entire world, maybe our species deserves to be cooked.
61
Minute_Juggernaut8065 days ago
+8
why Africa? instead of suez
8
sharkbait-oo-haha5 days ago
+188
Meanwhile Iran wants to put a $2 million dollar toll on each ship passing through. That's 300 million a day or 109.5 billion a year Iran will be making. For free. Not bad for war reparations.
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North_Atlantic_Sea4 days ago
+50
It's 2 million yuan, aka 300k USD. 150 ships per day that's $45m a day, aka $16.4b a year
50
SnooFoxes66104 days ago
+18
I believe it’s 2 million dollars worth of yuan.
18
milkplantation5 days ago
+4
If you search "Hormuz Strait Monitor" on Google, it's far and away the best website to get a sense of how many ships are going through, averages over the week, progress on resolutions, and historical numbers. Most serious investors are monitoring it daily.
Edit: [Link here](https://hormuzstraitmonitor.com/).
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PossiblePlastic86985 days ago
+5990
At this point it seems that most countries would find it easier to engage, and have more faith, in negotiations with Iran than the USA
5990
GoodIdea3215 days ago
+3143
The US bombed Iran in the middle of negotiations twice, that kind of backstabbing is hard to believe.
3143
PossiblePlastic86985 days ago
+1261
Trump appears to have taken a less-than-ethical business tactic and applied it to international diplomacy, with murderous effect
1261
lifesnofunwithadhd5 days ago
+913
"We have the local used car salesman a gun. He now shoots anyone that tries to haggle on the price. On the one hand nobody haggles anymore, on the other nobody is buying cars at that lot anymore either"
913
Visual-Hunter-10105 days ago
+256
This feels...exceptionally accurate right now.
256
ZumboPrime5 days ago
+75
"That used car lot's biggest competitor was being driven to the edge of bankruptcy. Rather than reexamine their own strategy or behaviour, said competitor cleverly arranged to have that used car salesman promoted to regional manager."
75
Electrical_Face_17375 days ago
+18
He fired anyone that talked about lack of sales and stars in his own commercial saying sales are way up!
18
wolf_at_the_door15 days ago
+74
Art of the deal
74
Hellknightx5 days ago
+14
Casual reminder that Trump had no role in writing that book. He's functionally illiterate. Tony Schwartz wrote it and deeply regrets doing it.
14
Wildweasel6665 days ago
+30
*Shart of the deal
30
thattogoguy5 days ago
+28
And my MAGA neighbors:
"We need to run the country like a business and make money!"
28
Some_Drummer_Guy5 days ago
+13
I've encountered people defending the orange buffoon, saying shit like "he's a businessman!" like it was some great quality. And I'm thinking "Really? The guy that bankrupted multiple casinos, had every other business venture fail, and fucked up all kinds of other shit along the way? The guy that's been a laughing stock since the 80's? The guy whom the entirety of New York hates? THAT businessman? You want HIM to run the country like a business? Good luck with that."
13
ucbiker4 days ago
+5
Anyone that actually works with businessmen knows they f*** things up spectacularly all the time.
5
Gashenkov5 days ago
+56
He applied russian tactics, but forgot to deny the important parts
56
Moose_Nuts5 days ago
+25
Crazy that every military personnel executing these strikes are just like, "Yup, this is a lawful order. SEND IT."
25
thedarkestblood4 days ago
+3
I mean boot camp is designed to break down any individual thought
You are taught to obey without question
3
VPN__FTW5 days ago
+5
Everything Trump has ever done is less-than-ethical. I don't say this about many people, but genuinely the world will be a better place when he eventually dies of old age--and that would be true even if he weren't president.
5
InTooManyWays5 days ago
+31
He has set America back by god knows how many centuries. His domestic and international damages we will never be able to recover from.
31
ndestruktx5 days ago
+43
3 centuries ago we weren’t even a nation yet. 2 centuries ago the US wasn’t even expanded out West completely. 1 century ago, there wasn’t a United Nations.
So in terms of diplomacy, I’d say less than 1 century. There is your answer.
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Smythe285 days ago
+29
“So if you agree to stop the bombing, we’ll agree to..”*crash*
“… m*********** did you just?”
29
in_animate_objects5 days ago
+53
Then bragged about killing the people they were negotiating with.
53
Haber_Dasher5 days ago
+7
And he also just bragged about how he agreed to not murder any of the negotiators because they asked for that as a condition of negotiations & Trump decided they were reasonable people so he graciously agreed to not kill them during the negotiations.
7
dromtrund5 days ago
+108
This is a good example of why you shouldn't kick the enemy's messenger into a big well.
108
D3xty5 days ago
+55
But what if they want earth and water? On top of coming to my city steps and insulting my queen?
55
Yvaelle5 days ago
+29
Well then you should kick them into a well, at that point etiquette demands it.
29
Irish_and_idiotic5 days ago
+15
That’s why I can never be a leader. F*** that guy I’d kick him into the hole if he spoke like that to my wife in front of my subjects aswell. Probably even if he said it in private.
But… then my state gets massacred so… not ideal
15
56seconds5 days ago
+47
Yep, that's why they won't trust further negotiations.
47
Haber_Dasher5 days ago
+12
They said pretty bluntly they think any ceasefire would only exist to give America time to re-arm & re-group so they can attack again from a stronger position then they're ready, and as such they have no intention of agreeing to any ceasefire, only to an actual enforceable peace. Which is, frankly, the most rational response
12
gonz4dieg5 days ago
+7
Trump only negotiates with the taliban in good faith
7
vossmanspal5 days ago
+4
That’s the Russian way I hear.
4
SuperLeverage5 days ago
+8
That kind of destroys any basis for future negotiations. Twice negotiations were a rise for air strikes. Why would a third be any different?
8
JB-Wentworth5 days ago
+137
It’s cheaper to negotiate with Iran.
137
protossaccount5 days ago
+22
That’s literally what Iran has been using as a negotiating chip for 50 years.
22
platoface5415 days ago
+31
Trump: “As long as the LEGO videos continue there can be no peace!”
31
Intoxicating_Piss_695 days ago
+34
The Art of the Deal™
34
Boatster_McBoat5 days ago
+14
Dart of the Eel
14
MissCreeAunt5 days ago
+12
The Shart is for Real.
12
papagouws5 days ago
+3
And if this isn't one hell of an argument for alternative and sustainable energy sources then I don't know what is.
3
hackenclaw5 days ago
+422
what if more countries is able to negotiate with Iran to allow ship passage, every days the increasing number of (non-friendly to USA) ships is allowed to pass, slowly restoring the strait traffic.
Suddenly that Dumb orange man decided to start ground invasion, the whole strait is going back to complete lockdown. That is going to piss a lot of countries. At this point it will not be a surprise orangeman might actually do it.
422
GroundbreakingTax2595 days ago
+427
Iran is actually practicing very good strategy here. Many of these countries aren't necessarily "unfriendly" to the US (India, Pakistan, France, etc. it's not just Russia and North Korea,) it is countries that are willing to deal with Iran independently of the US. As time goes on, and more countries see that making such a deal is better for them (and, most importantly, as the reserves begin to dry up), they will gladly make the deal.
Where this is especially important is the way it undermines the US' primary source of power: the petrodollar. When the US got all of the major oil-producing nations to agree to only sell in exchange for dollars, it made the USD the world's reserve currency, since every nation that wanted to buy oil needed to have USD. By forcing nations to potentially buy oil in yuan instead, Iran is threatening to upend this whole system.
427
Hollowquincypl5 days ago
+243
It's insane that Trump might actually be the person to get the world to switch off USD for oil. Even the notion we're heading that way should be setting off alarm bells in DC.
Yet here we are. Weeks in as he makes the US look weaker that he ever claimed previous administrations did.
243
i_have_covid_19_shit5 days ago
+90
This would unironically be the best thing a US President has ever done for the world.
Ironically, the worst president and one of the worst human to have ever lived doing the world a favour.
90
SamkonTheMankon4 days ago
+30
That's one dimensional thinking.
Freedom of navigation has been the law of the seas under US hegemony, due to the ability of the US Navy to project power across the globe. That system breaking means countries are going to have to build up their navies in order to secure their own shipping. It's trading one cost for another. There's no guarantee that the next set of costs is not higher.
30
vba74 days ago
+13
You mean good for Russia and China?
13
Alas7ymedia4 days ago
+23
In the long term, the dead of the oil industry is good for everyone. Democracy and oil, with few exceptions, historically don't go in the same direction.
23
PlansThatComeTrue5 days ago
+14
His goal is to destroy the American empire and nato, so that he can reclaim North America as his own
14
Athrash45444 days ago
+16
The petrodollar exist because of the implicit protection the US provided to global shipping. If the US continues to decide globalization is bad, that security gets weaker. This war undermines it. The tariffs undermine it with how frequently they change destabilizing the system. The US population has collectively decided in elections to withdraw from the global system. I believe the real consequence is not the petrodollar. It’s the return of state piracy and exclusive economic zones.
16
hackenclaw5 days ago
+24
the thing is Trump is playing a dangerous game here if he decided to invade, it will play right into Iran's hands. Iran will be using that excuse to lock down the strait AGAIN.
France/Spain already have some ship passing, if the invasion starts Trump will be the guy who lead USA to stop Strait of Hormuz TWICE. I dont think US relation going to end well even with Europe nations if he actually still wanna go ahead of the invasion.
24
Wall_of_Wolfstreet695 days ago
+14
>Many of these countries aren't necessarily "unfriendly" to the US (India, Pakistan, France, etc. it's not just Russia
What do you mean "it's not just Russia"? Russia is the biggest friend of the US and benefactor of every political decision of the most recently elected president.
14
Chrono_Convoy5 days ago
+2316
Meanwhile back in the US people need to remember only one major point:
The Friend Ship
Between 🍊and Epstein.
2316
krung_the_almighty5 days ago
+472
They need to remember that Trumps objective “open the strait” .. was already damn open before the orange idiot started the f****** war. Dumbass.
472
Chrono_Convoy5 days ago
+163
And the deal we’ve been seeking is the deal we had before he wiped his ass with it
163
berfthegryphon4 days ago
+11
The deal you're going to end up with will be significantly worse than Obama's Nuclear deal
11
BellyCrawler5 days ago
+38
They won't. No one who still supports him can be rationalized into not supporting him.
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Cold-Journalist-76625 days ago
+4
There are still 2 years remaining in his term.
4
sigma9145 days ago
+7
Yes, and they need to also remember "he deliberately started a war to distract from the fact he raped kids with his friend Epstein"
7
Carnir5 days ago
+8
Really infantilising the horror of his acts by replacing him with a colourful emoji.
8
HelloRMSA5 days ago
+302
$30 million dollars to Iran
302
fireky25 days ago
+136
Depends on the country of origin and destination. Iraq and China aren't paying a toll
136
FirefighterLeft54255 days ago
+55
They will certainly get something out of allowing Iraq or Chinese vessels through....
55
fireky25 days ago
+60
Theyre allies, meanwhile pakistan and qatar are working out natural gas shipments through the straight and will have to pay
60
iambarrelrider5 days ago
+96
“Red rover, red rover, let Ray come over.”
96
TJOcculist5 days ago
+16
What is that, Slavic?
16
manniesalado5 days ago
+250
Friends of Iran pass. Friends of Trump do not. That buys Iran a lot of friends!
250
MyDarlingArmadillo5 days ago
+36
TBF he was already doing a lot to destroy those alliances
36
LowEmergencyCaptain5 days ago
+661
What about Epstein?
661
brianw8245 days ago
+234
A ship carrying all of the Epstein was sunk in the Strait, the files can no longer be released.
234
Prior_Implement_92795 days ago
+21
No no. The Epstein was sent to the moon on the Artemis II. That’s why the files can no longer be released.
21
YuppiesEverywhere5 days ago
+49
Most likely an Israeli asset. Whoever he was, he certainly didn't kill himself, and the only person who's gone to jail for sex trafficking underage girls was ironically a woman.
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thejawa5 days ago
+85
I wanna see the files as much as everyone else, but at this point "but what about the Epstein Files?" will be the US's last utterance as we plunge into a nuclear winter that ends humanity.
We're so f****** focused on the Epstein Files that he's doing shit that's even worse and we just repeat "Epstein please?" no matter what else he does.
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florodude5 days ago
+86
kinda sounds like his plan is working, then.
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One_Car_1425 days ago
+13
It isn't just about epstein and the people involved. It's about stopping the endless gish-gallop of shit that allows him to get away with literally everything else he does. It's the principle of the matter. This is the one thing where we really have a foothold against his media blitz. We have to hold tight and sink our teeth into this because if we can't get him on this, then we'll never get him on anything else.
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PorkshireTerrier5 days ago
+19
people are mad about the other stuff too
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LollipopChainsawZz5 days ago
+20
ReleaseTheEpsteinFiles. Never forgive. Never forget.
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Yellowperil1235 days ago
+66
*“IMO is advancing a maritime evacuation framework built on coastal State co-operation, security guarantees and operational co-ordination, with the clear objective of releasing stranded vessels, enabling safe crew rotations and preventing an environmental disaster.”
Contrasting the measured words of the secretary general of the 176-member UN body, and the carefully worded statement on behalf of over 40 nations, US President Donald Trump took to social media on 5 April to tell Iran: “Open the Fuckin' Strait, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in Hell.”*
Incredible
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Robotboogeyman5 days ago
+27
> framework… co-operation… security guarantees… objective… preventing…
Trump doesn’t know any of those words. Seriously, the man cannot spell words like hamburger, and doesn’t know the difference between rain/reign or president/precedent. He is an actual moron.
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redditosleep5 days ago
+5
Iran has specified that that framework isn't to be in effect during wartime.
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Dry_Bullfrog23445 days ago
+52
Not the EU, but mostly countries are directly negotiating with Iran for a safe bypass in Hormuz. If the USA takes one step back, Iran can open it to the whole world like in the past, but with some conditions.
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im_new_here_42094 days ago
+15
Wouldn't it be ironic, to say the least, if Iran started collecting a toll on every ship associated with USA or Israel exclusively, but none other vessels? Bet a lot of ppl outside America won't be mad about that at all.
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[deleted]5 days ago
+61
history sleep placid crush straight ink juggle cover fuel encouraging
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InvidiousSquid5 days ago
+21
That really isn't good, news, or anything more than wishful dreams of rainbow-colored unicorn farts that smell like cotton candy.
Betting against stupidity is why we've arrived at our current destination. Never bet against stupid. The market of ideas can remain stupid longer than you can remain solvent.
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SpareDot86855 days ago
+41
Wow exciting times we’re living in…
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ggroverggiraffe5 days ago
+62
> Contrasting the measured words of the secretary general of the 176-member UN body, and the carefully worded statement on behalf of over 40 nations, US President Donald Trump took to social media on 5 April to tell Iran: “Open the Fuckin' Strait, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in Hell.”
I don't like this kind of excitement.
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MyDarlingArmadillo5 days ago
+22
I really miss boring, stable, statesmanlike politics. You don't know how good boredom is till it goes away.
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frenzyguy5 days ago
+98
15 ship is nothing tho...
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Krypt0night5 days ago
+202
Compared to the usual, correct. But it's them showing they can do it so easily and are picking and choosing who they let through and other countries will see that.
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g0ris5 days ago
+5
What I don't quite get is they were laying mines in the strait. So how do the ships pass through? Does Iran like navigate them around the mines or something? Or are the mines only supposed to serve as "speedbumps" so that the ships can get targeted from land? And since Iran granted these 15 passage they don't need to worry about going slow?
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TheFayneTM5 days ago
+12
They've mined the regular shipping lanes in the wider Hormuz strait but made a "safe" shipping lane between their island of larak and Qeshm island which is only 10km wide and much easier to control the flow of ships that pass through.
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locusthorse5 days ago
+90
Serves as a big gesture, 15 is a lot more than zero.
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brendan87na5 days ago
+27
15 more actually!
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Macdirty834 days ago
+13
Our president decided to dispose of a previous agreement with Iran because he didn't like it. He also didn't bother putting a new agreement into place. He decided that it would be best to make disorganized attempts to destroy the nuclear program of Iran, then tell us that it was taken care of. But now we've just been told that it's been taken care of again, and that air space is clear, and the war is over and we won. But American planes are being shot down, and now Iran has taken control of the Hormuz strait. We as a country put a man in a position of power who by all appearances only has concerns with financial gains of himself and those around him. We are in a difficult position, and our incompetence is on broad display. It's worth noting that the biggest gripe of the agreement with Iran from our president was the money spent. How much do you think we've spent so far on doing it his way? We can also add the unproductive input from Israel, and what that has led to as well. This is a bad situation, and our president is unraveling.
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TheHumanGnomeProject5 days ago
+96
Is this why France has refused to align with the US (in opening the Strait) and come out and urged nations to find alternative relationships? They must be posturing for cheaper tolls on the Strait.
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theoceansknow5 days ago
+33
I think any extortion fee Iran charges is irrelevant when the insurance market for ships passing the strait has massively increased.
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Anal-buttsex5 days ago
+72
When is Trump gonna fix healthcare? Is it more important to kill non citizens than taking care of your own?
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Kramerica_CEO5 days ago
+46
Never. Is this a serious question? Neither party in the US will “fix healthcare” because it’s working exactly as designed. It’s not broken in their eyes
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HotTakes4HotCakes5 days ago
+14
No it's not a serious question. That's a month old account, just like you're a 4 month old account, and you're both here to spread bullshit.
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_deafmute5 days ago
+12
i'm sorry but if youre american and want real free / affordable healthcare you probably need to leave america... obama attempted some bandaid solutions but i haven't even seen a candidate make it anything but a residual priority since. did you really think trump or any other candidate in the last decade for that matter was going to move the needle for the healthcare situation?
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Ezl4 days ago
+5
> Iran claims the Strait remains open except to vessels belonging to nations attacking Iran and nations supporting attacks on Iran. Iraqi vessels have been granted specific permission to transit the Strait, according to statements on Iran's state media. A statement from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy said the Strait will never return to its former state, especially for the US and Israel.
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Xanto975 days ago
+10
Anyone know what countries got through?
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just_aguest4 days ago
+11
If I was Iran I’d just block all the US ships, that would really piss Trump off
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dangerzone25 days ago
+23
They should allow every country through except the US. we don’t deserve it.
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Excitium5 days ago
+6
Trump is gonna use this to claim that the strait is open so he can taco tomorrow, isn't he....
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TransitionalArk5 days ago
+63
Trolling Trump, let a few through, get his hopes up, then say "just kidding". 🤣 Love it.
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supercali455 days ago
+67
they doing it even better.. any ally of Trump won't be let through
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PossiblePlastic86985 days ago
+86
Yet another reason for countries to distance themselves from the USA until sane leadership takes over from the current clown show of pedophiles, grifters and talk show hosts
"America First" will eventually mean "America Alone"
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AyoJake5 days ago
+49
its always meant that.
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PossiblePlastic86985 days ago
+26
Sad but true
Welcome to the next great dark age, brought to you by Christian Nationalism and the belief that rich people shouldn't have to be held to account for their crimes
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EagleEye2505 days ago
+59
Why is Russia banned from most of the sporting events but no action has been taken against the USA and Israel. I see no difference in their actions.
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Hefty-Revenue55475 days ago
+8
Why aren’t oil companies and other countries calling for Trumps head ?
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My_leg_still_hurt924 days ago
+5
because oil companies can price gouge and can blame it on everything else.
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TheBalzy4 days ago
+3
LoL, market will skyrocket 2,000 points on this news.
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Beginning-Luck-40264 days ago
+3
Anyone have info if the insurance companies are insuring the ships that passed through?
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ShamanSix014 days ago
+3
A quick search shows that insurance rates have climbed with cost of transit fees.
Freight costs on key Middle East Gulf tanker routes have surged from around $3 per barrel earlier in the year to roughly $11 per barrel, pushing transport to approximately 14% of the delivered cost of crude, compared with just 4% in January.
https://www.lr.org/en/knowledge/insights-articles/strait-restrictions-impact-tanker-markets-and-evolve-oil-trade-flows/
Insurance for a week’s tanker passage through Hormuz runs 0.15–0.25% of hull value. That rate has spiked to as high as 10% — a 40-fold increase — making tanker transit through the strait effectively economically unviable even for ships willing to risk it.
https://www.arabnews.com/node/2638351/saudi-arabia
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