Is Trump going to call this another gift he is receiving?
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JackBurton___MeMar 28, 2026
+287
“And all 20 ships are now named Trump, and they’re piloted by beautiful gold plated women and I just shit my pants”
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Competitive-Reach287Mar 29, 2026
+47
*shipped my pants
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JVizMar 29, 2026
+11
Let's not Kmart ourselves, it's only 20 boats.
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Auran82Mar 29, 2026
+5
Ship the bed next.
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throwawayt44cMar 28, 2026
+6
"your pants" but otherwise spot on
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PowderPillsMar 28, 2026
+24
On the 30th day of the war Pakistani gave to me….
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commentman10Mar 29, 2026
+7
He needs his brainwashed base to know. Murica did it again! Huuraaah! Iran respected the straight of Trump!
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Bubbles_2025Mar 29, 2026
+9
Iran doesn’t want to go to war with Pakistan because of Pakistans defense agreement with Saudi Arabia. That’s why Pakistan has been trying to organize talks between the US and Iran.
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Not_Campo2Mar 29, 2026
+3
Yes, but not until oil futures open on Sunday
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kh2rikuMar 29, 2026
+103
I sail my ship through Strait of Hormuz for Pakistan 🍇
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LearningT0FlyMar 29, 2026
+42
Wowwww graaaape
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Old_LeshenMar 29, 2026
+7
Can't believe this post just *blew up*.
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Substantial_Milk8170Mar 28, 2026
+345
Bros are really running the Strait like a nightclub bouncer. The geopolitical gatekeeping is actually crazy.
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Possible_Weekend_189Mar 28, 2026
-168
They are Not Bros
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Accomplished_Comb601Mar 29, 2026
+68
I forget which nation threatened taking over Canada and become general asses towards us Canadians. Was it the Iranians or Americans? Can’t remember.
Didn’t the US just kill like 150+ school girls?
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saber_shinji_ntrMar 29, 2026
-12
Yes the US is bad, that doesn't mean the Iranian regime is "bros". They literally publicly executed an athlete a couple weeks ago for protesting. Dont let your justified hate for the US and Israel blind you to the atrocities being commited by the Iranian regime towards their own people.
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Accomplished_Comb601Mar 29, 2026
+7
How do you feel about the US being referred to as “bros”.
Would you go out of the way to make a Listnook post about it?
You know what’s worse? Killing 150+ school girls.
The US is just as bad as Iran. Sorry you’re biased.
The US war secretary encourages war crimes:
> Kelly Demands Hegseth Clarify “No Quarters” Comment, Reaffirm Troops Have Duty to Refuse Illegal Orders
https://www.kelly.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/kelly-demands-hegseth-clarify-no-quarters-comment-reaffirm-troops-have-duty-to-refuse-illegal-orders/
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saber_shinji_ntrMar 29, 2026
-1
We are talking about Iran not being "bros". Why are you whatabouting to the US? I am making no claims about the US in my post, my point simply is that the Iranian regime is commiting horrific human rights abuses.
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qO________OpMar 29, 2026
-9
Exactly. It's wild seeing people explicitly side with Iran in this war when it's more like piss fighting shit
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SilveRX96Mar 29, 2026
+8
F*** the Iranian government, but this is the US invading a soverign country, so yeah the US sucks more in this war
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qO________OpMar 29, 2026
Sure, but I'm definitely not gonna cheer for Iran
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Accomplished_Comb601Mar 29, 2026
+5
It’s funny because nobody bats an eye when the US are called bros but Iran, oh my god.
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TheFrickinThrowAwayMar 29, 2026
-13
Didn’t Iran just mow down 30,000 of its own people in a week?
Literally f*** off with your selective outrage.
Also with this Greenland and Canada bullshit. Nothing f****** happened. Nothing is going to happen because there are larger forces at work behind the scenes in the US than trumps idiotic ramblings (and those don’t equal policy, although they are very stupid)
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SaintsNoah14Mar 29, 2026
-68
Lmao and they downvoted this
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Accomplished_Comb601Mar 29, 2026
+21
Sorry pal - the whole world thinks Americans are asses now.
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TheBlueStareMar 28, 2026
+202
2 ships a day. Let’s not get carried away.
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Common-Method2202Mar 28, 2026
+125
Yeah it clearly shows that they are only letting countries take oil for themselves, not buying and then re-distributing to other countries.
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mrtunaMar 28, 2026
+71
any oil out increases supply
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AntitheistArchangelMar 29, 2026
+25
Still, if two tankers were allowed to pass through and now four are, that’s not a huge difference compared to the number of tankers that passed through pre-war. Maybe this move calms oil markets marginally, but I imagine the relief would be temporary.
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Black_MoonsMar 29, 2026
+1
Previous traffic in 2025 was 150 ships per day... on a slow day.
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WeddingPKMMar 29, 2026
+20
True but not every country lets the free market run wild.
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milespointsMar 29, 2026
+20
Doesn’t really matter since all countries must buy on the market regardless of what they charge their citizens.
If pakistan needs oil and they can’t get it from there, they will buy from somewhere else. Whoever else is selling can charge more because there is more demand.
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WeddingPKMMar 29, 2026
+3
Countries can make specific deals between themselves outside of the open market.
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SPQR-TightanusMar 29, 2026
+21
If they buy oil in some other way - they need to buy less on the open market, which reduces the pressure for others.
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the_skies_fallingMar 29, 2026
+3
Oil is a commodity good. Commodities aren’t bought and sold like other goods.
[Commodity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity)
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NonhingedMar 29, 2026
+3
If Pakistan didn't make this deal, they would have bought some other oil/fuel instead. That other oil can now be bought by someone else.
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Danne660Mar 29, 2026
+5
Don't really matter, it all comes down to suply and demand in the end.
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Marijuana_MilerMar 29, 2026
+5
Feels like it’s the difference between oil prices rising suddenly vs a slow increase. I feel like the war would end sooner in the event oil prices hit $200 now instead of slowing rising to $200 by the end of July.
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dbxpMar 29, 2026
+16
Most middle eastern oil goes to Asia. So far they've given the green light to China, India, Pakistan, Thailand, Japan and South Korea. In theory that's 75%+ of demand which has been given the green light but it depends how you classify ships by country.
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FlyingFlyofHellMar 29, 2026
+1
But it's for domestic consumption of those countries usually these countries refine petroleum and sell different petroleum products across world.
So their is still shortage of petroleum products.
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redfoobarMar 29, 2026
+1
About 5% of the original ships are getting through, not anything like 75%.
Worlds supply is still down by 18%, brace for a huge impact. Everyone will feel this and that’s just the oil, not the fertilizer and other oil/gas based products coming from this region.
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sinhyperbolicaMar 29, 2026
Yeah that's what I thought because pakistan doesn't even have 20 ships. Source: My merchant Navy buddy
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sloppybuttmustardMar 29, 2026
-11
A large tanker can hold 2 million barrels of oil. Two ships a day, or 4 million barrels, is equivalent to almost 170 million gallons of oil. Let’s not act like this is a trivial amount of oil.
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GrandeRondeMar 29, 2026
+23
And how many tankers transited the Strait of Hormuz before Operation Epstein Fury? I'll go ahead and answer my own question, it was between 50 and 60 on average. So Trump's war has slowed oil out of the Persian Gulf to a trickle. Edit: removed an extraneous word.
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sloppybuttmustardMar 29, 2026
+4
Yeah I mean that’s not really my point. I’m saying Iran has the power to selectively allow pretty large quantities of oil through, and if they are smart about it they can disproportionately hurt western countries more with their selectivity.
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GrandeRondeMar 29, 2026
+7
My bad, I thought you were arguing that oil shipments through the strait hadn't been curtailed. Thank you for the clarification.
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takesthebiscuitMar 29, 2026
+1
It was 120 ships a day before Trump started wrecking things
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at0mheartMar 28, 2026
+45
I wonder who will have to pay a fee to get ships to pass?
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Sometimes-funnyMar 29, 2026
+2
I just picture a little dude in a booth like “that’ll be 50 rial please chap”
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jphamloreMar 29, 2026
+50
Am I the one who interprets the real Saudi Arabia - Pakistan security agreement to be that if the emergency is dire enough, Saudi Arabia can buy nukes from Pakistan, in exchange for wiping out Pakistan's foreign debt?
I have heard some others claim that Pakistan has a similar agreement with Turkey.
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IBM296Mar 29, 2026
+26
Doubt it. If there were terms even close to what you are suggesting, Pakistan would have already sold nukes to Turkey and Saudia. Why wait for an emergency??
I just found out last week that almost half of Pakistan's GDP goes to just servicing debts, which is causing alot of headache. Pakistan would have jumped at the chance to get rid of that, if it only cost like 20 nukes.
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UpsetKoalaBearMar 29, 2026
+14
> If there were terms even close to what you are suggesting, Pakistan would have already sold nukes to Turkey and Saudia. Why wait for an emergency??
So Saudi/Turkey don’t face any sanctions.
I don’t know about the Turkey deal, but the Saudi deal [has been heavily implied.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/09/26/pakistan-saudi-arabia-security-nuclear-weapons/)
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IBM296Mar 29, 2026
+8
That could be true, but both Saudia and Pakistan do alot of individual, backstage, secret stuff that never sees the light of day.
If Saudia actually wanted nukes and Pakistan wanted its foreign debt erased, a deal would have already been made and stuff already transferred.
Pakistan gave both Iran and Libya dummy nukes and info on how to build them in 1990's. No one knew for a decade till Iran idiotically showed some classified stuff to IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency) during inspections in 2003.
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KingPictoTheThirdMar 29, 2026
+3
If saudi acquired nukes it would lose all support and access to American military equipment and face heavy sanctions
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hurdygurtyMar 29, 2026
+3
No paywall: https://archive.ph/2025.09.26-171921/https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/09/26/pakistan-saudi-arabia-security-nuclear-weapons/
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jphamloreMar 29, 2026
+5
Not really, neither need nukes now. As I said, it would have to be a dire emergency. Like Iran making a clear test of a working bomb. Or Israel using them.
They would need Iran to break out first, which would give them cover for matching.
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-principitoMar 29, 2026
+43
The comments here are fascinating. I know we don’t like Iran and all that but surely their control of the strait and their leverage of global fuel supply is their greatest tool to stop the US and Israeli offensive. I’m annoyed my fuel costs more but I place the blame for that on the orange c***.
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aholetookmyusernameMar 29, 2026
-32
I apportion shared blame to both. The US+Israel chose to start this, Iran chose to make things worse.
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+38
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sh0tgunbenMar 28, 2026
+36
Pakistan & Iran are allies
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GenghisKazooMar 28, 2026
+76
It's quite a bit more complicated than that.
They try to remain good relationships with both Iran and Saudi Arabia, but their formal security agreement is a defense pact with Saudi Arabia. One they really don't want to actually follow through on.
Their interest is in calming everything down. They are way too busy in Afghanistan to fight anybody else and siding with the US and Israel against Iran would be extremely unpopular domestically.
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RareBidMar 28, 2026
+12
>> One they really don't want to actually follow through on.
I wonder why Pakistan signed this Pact , especially so recently ...how do they benefit? I can certainly see how Saudi Arabia benefits but not Pakistan. Wouldn't it have been better for them to be neutral instead of legally bound? I'm also surprised that Iran is okay with Pakistan signing this pact.
The countries playing it neutral like India and Pakistan are smart, best not to align with anyone until necessary.
Politics makes strange bedfellows is certainly true.
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WeddingPKMMar 29, 2026
+34
I’d presume they got into that alliance because the Saudi’s are rich and offered good money for it. They believed it would never actually come to a shooting war so they risk was minimal while the upside was quite lucrative.
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firechaoxMar 29, 2026
+9
Little did they know Saudi Arabia was lobbying Trump to attack Iran lol
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RareBidMar 29, 2026
+2
I don't think that's the case at all. I doubt they did this for the money and the risk of a war was very high even a year ago.
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WeddingPKMMar 29, 2026
+3
I’m definitely no authority on the matter so I very easily could be wrong. I just can’t see another good reason for them to sign this alliance.
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GenghisKazooMar 29, 2026
+13
The twist is, it's kind of Israel's fault.
Israel bombed a Hamas target in the capital of Qatar last year and it spooked all the Gulf States because they kind of assumed Israel wouldn't dare violate another US ally's territory like that.
It made them realize they might need other options for a nuclear armed formal ally outside of the US in case Israel decides it can just do whatever it wants in the future.
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dbxpMar 29, 2026
+3
The Saudi's funded the Pakistan nuclear program and have long been rumoured to have an under the table deal to get warheads if they need them. They already have Chinese missiles capable of launching them
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RareBidMar 29, 2026
+2
>> in case Israel decides it can just do whatever it wants in the future
In case? Lol it has been doing whatever it wants, that's the problem... and I imagine why Iran is protecting itself by financing rebel groups.
It's mind-boggling that for such a small country where almost half the inhabitants are settlers, Israel gets to control the region ...all backed up by Western countries and then the West wonder why they are hated 🙄
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dbxpMar 29, 2026
+5
From Pakistan's perspective they could theoretically starve India of oil in a war
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deep639Mar 29, 2026
+3
India has shifted back to buying Russian oil. And they have also agreed to buy oil from Brazil.
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RareBidMar 29, 2026
+2
How so and for what purpose? I don't see why they would intentionally antagonize and create conflict with India to their east while getting ready to potentially attack Iran to the west, makes no sense.
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dbxpMar 29, 2026
+5
I'm talking longer term, unrelated to the current conflict with Iran
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hippodribbleMar 28, 2026
+3
I am a little confused that Iran supported the Taleban, Pakistan bombed the Taleban recently, and Pakistan is still getting its oil past Iran. It's like a chess game.
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FumquatMar 29, 2026
+14
Almost like you would want a department of smart, subtle, qualified people to be in charge of figuring out all that international relations stuff, and have them report to a leader who is even-tempered and wise enough to analyze the whole situation and take advice…
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hippodribbleMar 29, 2026
+2
It could happen.
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thegoatmenaceMar 29, 2026
+3
Iran supports the Taliban, but not unequivocally. Like they aren’t going to act in the interest of Afghanistan over their own self-interest.
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ShinobismasterMar 29, 2026
+1
Didn’t Afghanistan and Iran have a little border skirmish last year or am I mixing up ME fights
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RareBidMar 29, 2026
+2
It's not about supporting the rebel groups as it is about undermining your enemies.
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Kranken_DeHoggeMar 28, 2026
+19
pakistan also has a mutual defense pact with Saudi Arabia, which is now increasingly relevant.
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LMurch13Mar 29, 2026
+5
Hey, having allies sounds kinda cool. The US should try it.
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Kranken_DeHoggeMar 29, 2026
+5
Pakistan isnt' gonna invade Iran on Saudi Arabia's behalf
Much like the US's allies aren't touching this shit with a ten foot pole just the same
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Dazzling-Rub-8550Mar 29, 2026
Especially now that Iran did them a favor and lets some of their ships through. It’s pretty clear who is in charge here. And it’s not the USA.
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MrF_lawblogMar 29, 2026
+3
I thought India and Iran were allies..
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liverpoolFCnutMar 29, 2026
+2
Pakistan also signed a security pact with KSA recently saying they'll protect the Saudis if there's a war lol
Remember, pakistan also was a so-called non-nato ally during WOT all the while Bin Laden chilled in their garrison town! They're experts in playing both sides !
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amandamousMar 29, 2026
+3
Another article a couple of days ago said Pakistan would side with Saudi Arabia if it got drawn into the war. Can someone please explain how Iran allowed 20 ships of a country who is affiliated with their enemy, Saudi Arabia.
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Sensitive_Pain_9030Mar 29, 2026
+4
No one knows for sure what is being discussed through back channels. In my opinion, Pakistan is reaching out to Iran with the silent blessing of Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia has calculated that the Iranian regime is likely to survive and is not interested in becoming directly involved in the war (at least for now). Instead, it is asking Pakistan to act as a mediator so that when the war eventually ends, Iran does not view Saudi Arabia as an complete enemy. Saudi Arabia recognizes that Iran will endure and is simply preparing for a new regional reality in which it can come to some kind of agreement with Iran.
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xPareshMar 29, 2026
+6
Iran demonstrating it's still boss with it's buddy Pakistan
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IribumkiakMar 29, 2026
+7
Trump must continue this "excursion" to achieve the objective of opening the Strait of Hormuz, which it was before he started this ..."excursion."
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Michael-SeanMar 29, 2026
+5
More gifts for Trump?
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Bigchunky_BoyMar 29, 2026
+3
Seems like a war for Pakistani love .
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shalelordMar 29, 2026
+3
at this point you might see oil companies with chinese, indian, pakistani flags everywhere
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CBT7commanderMar 29, 2026
+3
That’s actually pretty good for Trump (note I said trump not the U.S.). Oil prices spike was caused by Asian markets being cut off from the Gulf, if they regain access oil prices will go back down and Trump will get a lot of breathing room when it comes to public opinion.
The U.S. barely gets any oil from Hormuz, stopping US affiliated ships from going through the straight isn’t going to have a worthwhile impact
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unskilledplayMar 29, 2026
+8
Context is needed. I read that tanker 50 ships on average pass through the strait every day. A total of 30 ships passing during a war that it entering its second month isn't enough to cause meaningful downward pressure on prices. With these exceptions you are still looking at a 98% reduction in oil over the course of the month.
It's a gesture and that gesture may impact oil futures which in turn impact prices.
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takesthebiscuitMar 29, 2026
+1
120 ships a day, 50 or so tankers and others in particular fertiliser which is needed to feed the world
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sillysylyMar 29, 2026
+1
Doesn't matter if the USA doesn't get oil from the middle east, it's traded in US dollars and oil is a global market so don't think the refineries in the USA are going to sell domestically when export profits double or triple -- unless of course the govt enacts export controls which I'm sure Texas and MAGA would love.
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JewpedinmypantsMar 29, 2026
+2
Good thing we don’t have the 82nd airborne on their way over. They also bring peace
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samratvishaljainMar 29, 2026
+1
Double the "grift"
Oops, typo: I meant gift 🤭
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nombresinhombreMar 29, 2026
+1
Some ships a day keeps the bombs away
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WayneSmallmanMar 29, 2026
+1
Do we see the Iranians gatekeeping the US of A and allowing everyone else to pass?
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Broad-Lobster7470Mar 29, 2026
+1
I thought pak would do what Saudi wanted
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we_are_sex_bobombMar 29, 2026
Incredible how Trump bombed his war so hard he lost something that wasn’t even being contested before now.
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