To think the Strait was not a problem before the war… Now he wants to make a deal to reopen it. What a business man
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Sir-Kyle-Of-Reddit3 days ago
+22
I’m sure he’ll be getting a cut of the tolls
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BrendaWannabe2 days ago
+5
His big mouth caused the "border surge", then he "solved it", MAGAs clapped.
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AgileFriendship62751 day ago
+3
We call that a pyromaniac firefighter.
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PoopSoupPeter4 days ago
+371
Seems pretty clear that trump lost this war.
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Lucius-Halthier3 days ago
+90
He’ll go after Cuba next
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tsrich3 days ago
+59
Gonna lose control of the Straits of Florida
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PleaseGreaseTheL3 days ago
+15
If we lose control of the state of Florida I see no downsides tbh, send the marines
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hedoeswhathewants3 days ago
+4
Send Bugs
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MortLightstone3 days ago
+7
Then when the smoke clears and the country is a shell of it's former self, he'll deport every Cuban and their children he can get their hands on right back to the island
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baldobilly2 days ago
+3
At least we’ll get rid of Rubio and Cruz in the inevitable purge. Too bad for them they’re too stupid to see this coming from a mile away.
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jason_abacabb3 days ago
-2
Not likely, Cubans vote with a significant right lean.
-2
MortLightstone1 day ago
+6
Just because they vote for him doesn't mean he won't f*** them over
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calmdownmyguy1 day ago
+3
Hispanics in general voted for trump with largest margin a republican presidential candidate had ever received from that demographic. How did it work out for them?
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NotaContributi0n3 days ago
+1
You must be new around here.. that’s been going on for years
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SonuOfBostonia3 days ago
-4
When he does, he'll be 2 for 3, which he's 100% gonna talk about until the next election. Just wait after the Beijing Summit. Curious how long he waits, my money's on right before the midterms.
-4
calmdownmyguy1 day ago
+1
Venezuela still has the same regime.
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0fficerGeorgeGreen3 days ago
+74
Trump got people to stop asking about the Epstein files. He also got to do a ton of market manipulation for his friends and family. He won the war for himself.
It's the majority of American citizens that lost in this war. Even if they are too dumb to realize it. Higher prices everywhere with no clear path to them coming down anytime soon, or ever.
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Eljefe8788888883 days ago
+20
Would it change your mind if I said “But Biden…” and posted an infographic that misrepresents what it’s trying to show about gas prices in Trumps favor?
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mido_sama3 days ago
+9
Sir it was HUSAAN Obama’s fault he gave them Trillions on pallets.
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Inimicus333 days ago
+4
It was Hunter Hussain Obiden.....probably
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uberares3 days ago
+1
the entire planet lost this war, save Iran. Smoooooth, 8d chess master at action here.
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willstr13 days ago
+9
Russia did pretty good too, got some sanctions lifted
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Capt-Crap1corn3 days ago
-3
Why would they have to create a new agency? I suspect they are cutting the Trump family in on some of the profit to open the strait
-3
KissShot11063 days ago
-14
Trump plus the rest of the world.
Was better helping him to fix it instead of ignoring it. Now forever high price and complain trump <3 better watch and complain
-14
ylfcm3 days ago
+41
Title is misleading. Iran flat out rejected trump’s stupid plan
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FuggyGlasses3 days ago
+5
Iran has created a government agency to vet and tax vessels seeking passage through the crucial Strait of Hormuz, a shipping data company reported Thursday, as Tehran said it was reviewing the latest U.S. proposals for ending the war.
The Iranian effort to formalize control over the channel raised new concerns about international shipping, with hundreds of commercial ships bottled up in the Persian Gulf and unable to reach the open sea. Still, hope that the two-month conflict could soon be over buoyed international markets.
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FrequentFortune1234 days ago
+147
Gas prices are never going back down
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Ohuigin3 days ago
+118
The straight could open tomorrow and Iran could say to the entire world that anyone and anyone can freely pass through it again without any incident and gas prices wouldn't fall more than 10 cents.
We will never, *EVER* see a $3.50 national average again. At this point, returning to a $4 national average isn't even a safe bet.
The oil industry knows this is their final, dying gasp. China has entire mountain ranges and massive swaths of the ocean completely covered in solar panels. Their wind farms are immense. They are invested and investing in the energy that will allow them to win every technological race moving into the future.
For example - these insane data centers coming online all over the US, you really think that oil is going to be able to meet that level of increased demand? Utah just approved a datacenter that is projected to consume twice the amount of energy per year as the ENTIRE state.
It's over. Oil is done. It's more expensive to extract than solar and wind is to install. All we're left with here in the US are the grifters and corrupt as sin Epstein class trying to squeeze out every last drop of oil that they can.
The downside? All of us just circle the drain, watching the world advance around us, while the Epstein class continues to r*** the world, and its children.
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bigmac220773 days ago
+25
F*** no we did not approve that data center, there is a very aggressive fight against it still. Just because the council ran out of the meeting, hid on zoom, and approved the fist stage does not mean it’s happening. A few of them have big business here and they are all going into hiding. Kevin can go f*** himself if he thinks he’s going to build something with a larger acreage than some of our national parks.
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Ohuigin3 days ago
+22
I hope you guys keep fighting. That plan is fuuuuuucked up.
Solidarity from WA, my friend.
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IDontHaveCookiesSry1 day ago
+1
You know how the french handle stuff like that right
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TheIntrepid13 days ago
+3
!remindme 6 months
$3.50 national average...?
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MorningPotential52143 days ago
+3
Utah "approved" it over the will of the people who actually live there.
Local real estate developers are looking for a payoff while the a****** doing the most to get it built tries to pretend that his critics are paid protestors from out of state
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Heimerdingerdonger3 days ago
+15
If you're saying demand will fall, but prices won't, then there is a contradiction?
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Malaix3 days ago
+12
Not if the world is controlled by predator scamming lying money addicts.
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Ohuigin3 days ago
+30
In a healthy free market, then absolutely.
But this isn't what we have here at home. We have late-stage crony capitalism. There is nothing "free" about this market. We are held captive by corporations that are beholden to oil as its energy source. Look at auto manufacturing, for example. You can buy a $8,000 US BYD electric car in Costa Rica. But not here. We have closed our borders to anything and anyone that would threaten the artificially inflated demand for oil we have here. Even if you wanted to bring in an electric car that isn't sold in the US? Well, have fun paying an additional 225% of the car's sticker price on the import tariff.
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Ckckcake3 days ago
+4
I agree whole-heartedly. It maddens me that we as the US have decided to shun off technological advances in favor of profit. We couldve had real car companies again with the introduction of EVs and the competition brought from abroad such as BYD. Sure, teslas are cool… but we couldve had real be having such a bigger piece of the pie if our leaders had more long-term vision…sigh /rant over
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Im_ur_Uncle_3 days ago
-9
Not really. Higher oil prices will make energy alternatives relatively cheaper. The market will start to lean that way. That's what a free market is.
The government never said we arent allowed to use solar or wind. Its just not as cost effective as oil... yet.
Why China has massive solar and wind farms is because the people dont have a choice and the government just did it.
See the difference? Free market = people build things for the state as they are needed.
Communist = the governemnt forces you to use certain products that they build. You have no choice and building anything on your own is illegal.
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Ohuigin3 days ago
+6
Ok. There's a lot here -
>Higher oil prices will make energy alternatives relatively cheaper. The market will start to lean that way. That's what a free market is.
Right...exactly. But renewables are already cheaper, and the policies of this regime are literally making it impossible to "lean that way". This is exactly my point about the lie of our "free market".
[Source 1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_electricity_by_source) \- Energy generation costs by source
>The government never said we arent allowed to use solar or wind. Its just not as cost effective as oil... yet.
Umm...they quite literally said that by spending money to NOT let the market move freely...
[Source 2](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/why-the-trump-administration-is-paying-nearly-a-billion-dollars-to-abandon-wind-farms) \- We are literally spending billions to NOT let the market move into the direction of renewables, as to stay dependent on oil.
>Why China has massive solar and wind farms is because the people dont have a choice and the government just did it.
>See the difference? Free market = people build things for the state as they are needed. Communist = the governemnt forces you to use certain products that they build. You have no choice and building anything on your own is illegal.
You mean like the US did with Intel?
[Source 3 ](https://www.intc.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1748/intel-and-trump-administration-reach-historic-agreement-to)\- Trump forces US government to invest in Intel
I think you need to refresh your thinking on what you believe a free market is and the realities of this new Trump regime world order. Because the thinking even from his first term no longer applies. You do not live in a free market, my friend.
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MilesAlchei3 days ago
+14
People cannot afford to replace their gas powered cars, and so long as people can't fuel prices will be inelastic.
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PolicyWonkWonk3 days ago
+3
If prices go up, some folks won’t afford not to replace their cars with EV’s.
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MilesAlchei3 days ago
+9
Right now, I'm using my car until it dies, then I have to desperately find anything that runs. Not everyone gets a choice.
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PolicyWonkWonk3 days ago
+1
I’m in a similar position, but my point is, if gas gets to the point that it’s on par with a car loan per month, then it makes sense to go electric.
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thepianoman4563 days ago
+1
Yup… this is sadly succinct.
These midterms coming up might be our last chance to correct course, and I can almost guarantee you that the Dems will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Suns_In_4203 days ago
-2
Lol, were you guys not alive the last time this shit hit 6 bucks a gallon? It came down then and it will come down again.
-2
OnlyTheDead3 days ago
+4
Like before?
Probably not.
They will normalize and stabilize to a lower amount over time. Right now you should be considering that they could still increase.
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PigFarmer13 days ago
+7
Oil industry analysts have predicted increases that will last for years but, hey, what do they know compared to King Donnie and his lackeys, right???
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ministryofchampagne3 days ago
+3
US oil companies are making a killing. The only things that the republicans care about
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weasel51343 days ago
+6
Never is such a strong word
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FluxKraken3 days ago
+1
It is also prably true.
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sofixa113 days ago
+5
It's not like we didn't see gas prices go down after the previous *checks notes* 5 oil crisis were over.
This one will take a while to fix because of the infrastructure and insurance damage.
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weasel51343 days ago
-3
To be perfectly pedantic if fuel prices EVER go down, then never has been debunked
And fuel prices will go down eventually. If it takes til the heat death of the universe then it takes that long. But fuel prices will go down when people stop buying fuel
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FluxKraken3 days ago
Which is pedantry is not useful in the real world.
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Capt-Crap1corn3 days ago
+2
It's not just the price of gas, goods and services as well. Goods are up.
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fixminer3 days ago
+1
Luckily fossil fuels are about to become obsolete.
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aedroogo3 days ago
+9
Oh sweet. Guess the war will be over soon!
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bry_flynnie3 days ago
+8
it’s amazing that up until 2 months or so ago i doubt the average american heard of let alone know of the strait of hormuz. now it will be in history books moving forward.
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m3R0003 days ago
+54
They didn't have control over the strait before Netanyahu and his idiot Trump started this war
But hey at least people forgot about the Epstein files which is definitely a win for Trump and his MAGA cultists
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Lirael_Gold3 days ago
+12
The issue is that while everyone "kinda" knew that Iran *could* control the strait in theory, that's very different than them actually demonstrating that capability.
A lot of wealthy people who don't really pay attention to shipping have had a very rude awakening.
The following study is from **2008**
https://www.belfercenter.org/publication/closing-time-assessing-iranian-threat-strait-hormuz
I'm pretty sure some of the fired USN admirals directly quoted this (and other) studies to Trump/Hegseth and were overruled. The USN has not been very happy about this war from day 1, and there's a good reason for that.
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fxkatt3 days ago
+8
The next distraction will be the release of the UFO papers--perfect timing after many decades of secreting them away.
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RLewis88883 days ago
+8
So they now have new income stream (which we pay for), still have nuclear capabilities, and more influence on the area. Meanwhile, we've spent billions of taxpayer dollars, used up half of our weapons, and killed US soldiers (and Iranian civilians).
Thanks MAGA.
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lew_rong3 days ago
+8
Who knew literally everything could be so complicated?
--some exceptionally stupid m***********, probably
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wyvernx023 days ago
+5
If they are doing this, I don't see them agreeing to Trump's offer.
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MaxRD3 days ago
+3
Is Trump done winning yet?
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BusyHands_3 days ago
+7
Love the dedication to trolling Trump. That lil shit stain must be going thru Depends like a mofo
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AdmiralJarJar3 days ago
+7
No matter what the outcome is, things will be worse than before the US decided to start this mess...
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steavor3 days ago
+11
Guess why no POTUS, no matter how hawkish, touched the Iran situation with a 10 foot pole for decades... other than maybe supporting some minor Israeli action.
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thepianoman4563 days ago
+2
Damn… what a mess Trump caused… and for literally no gain.
He got played by Israel, to assist them in their violent conquest.
And we fuckin bombed a school and killed over 100 children. I’ll never forget that. This war is utterly pointless, and has only caused mass suffering and hiked up the cost of living.
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Flat-Emergency48913 days ago
+3
Sounds like they have a functioning govt to me.
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madogvelkor3 days ago
+4
The UAE and Oman should also create agencies to control shipping in the Strait of Hormuz. Ships going through have to pay all three countries.
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plaiidoh3 days ago
+3
The Settler in the middle east doesn't want peace.
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toofaded403 days ago
+3
Iran created an agency that will coordinate shipping traffic that ultimately won’t get through because there’s a blockade. Amazing
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Malaix3 days ago
The blockade will have to end eventually. Iran will still be there with their agency. In a couple months Americans will be close to revolting against Trump at this rate.
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toofaded403 days ago
-7
How is this Iranian agency going to make US affiliated ships pay a “tax” on passage in an international waterway? Do they think US ships are going to let these small boats stop them? Im generally curious how Iran will enforce this
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The49GiantWarriors3 days ago
+5
It appears Iran's threat of attacks on cargo ships is enough for those cargo ships' insurance companies to be unwilling to insure the ships. Ships without insurance are not shipping. The tax, presumably, will give safe passage to those who paid.
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toofaded403 days ago
-4
But it will become one of those situations where the world will see US escorted vessels passing through without having to pay the tax. Going to be interesting to see how this plays out. Pay the Iranian tax or become a us ally and get escorted through. Interesting times
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The49GiantWarriors3 days ago
+3
You can't really think the US Navy is going to e***** thousands of foreign ships through the straight each month, indefinitely.
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toofaded403 days ago
-2
No that’s impossible but they can support while the US fully pulls out of the Middle East
-2
Malaix3 days ago
+4
I imagine warnings and then seizing it with the expectation Americans are not willing to go through this again. At this point I think most of us would rather fight Trump than Iran.
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toofaded403 days ago
+1
Iran doesn’t have the muscle to seize a US ship. They have yet to hit any of US warships during this conflict. They simply cannot seize and patrol the strait because they lack any firepower to pull it off
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Malaix3 days ago
+4
If it’s a US warship they will just drone bomb it or close the strait demanding they leave.
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toofaded403 days ago
+4
They tried and failed on multiple occasions. US will just pass through and continue to do so. However, other merchant traffic incapable of defense are the losers here.
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Malaix3 days ago
+3
Which is a loss for America. We hung ourselves in terms of this situation by letting the car industry force us all to drive everywhere forever. We can’t survive long oil prices. We are dependent.
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toofaded403 days ago
+2
The consumer is dependent but not the billionaire. Theres a reason why public transportation initiatives are constantly shut down. Imagine what a bullet train can bring to the US? It’s never been built or gained any traction because they all lose money
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68903 days ago
+3
>US will just pass through and continue to do so.
So, US bound oil tankers have been freely flowing throughout this entire conflict?
I'm trying to be earnest when I ask what you mean. Because as far as I'm informed, there ain't no traffic through the Strait on account of Iran's actions. They seemingly have this capability right now
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Lirael_Gold3 days ago
+3
You're aware that Iran has cruise missiles, drones and ASHMs, right?
The morning after the US got 2 (*two*) ships through the Strait, using 2 destroyers, a massive amount of air power and an entire brigade of Apaches. Iran hit 2 container ships in retaliation.
Iran has enough firepower to make insurance prices go through the roof for any shipping company willing to try to run the gauntlet. Iran can keep it up far longer than the US can afford to have 2 carrier strike groups deployed to the region.
Edit: as the other user has now blocked me, I'll just paste my reply
>I don't know if you closely followed the US operation, but the US destroyers specifically did not try to actually cross the strait itself, they parked up on the eastern side and waited while aircraft escorted the US container ships.
>This is not a sustainable situation, it was an absolutely massive military operation just getting 2 ships through the strait unscathed.
>https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/05/07/cia-intelligence-iran-trump-blockade-missiles/
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toofaded403 days ago
+4
They’ve always had strike groups deployed to that region so I don’t understand your point. Iran hasn’t hit a US warship, not for their lack of trying, during this whole conflict.
Those container ships they hit weren’t being protected by the US. Any US warship or US protected vessel will go through and Iran is incapable of stopping them is my point. This Iranian policy hurts all those incapable of defending themselves
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TheRadBaron3 days ago
+1
> Do they think US ships are going to let these small boats stop them?
You are writing comments from a perspective that has literally not read any news stories for three months.
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HollaWho3 days ago
+1
In Illinois, all of our toll booths were temporarily built in the 50’s. Now there here to stay, just like the Hormuz toll booth.
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SanDiegoDude3 days ago
+1
Trump continues to work hard on a gas free future for the US. Good for him. Keeping gas prices above 5 a gallon has done wonders for the EV adoption rate in CA, now the rest of the US gets to find out why!
/sigh
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arielsosa1 day ago
+1
Lmao Iran being more institutional about the war than the US government is INSANE.
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Heimerdingerdonger3 days ago
+1
Iran should rename it as Gulf of Trump and build a HUUUUUGE arch over the straight and cut him in for 5% for the use of his name.
Dotard will be happy. No more bombing. Mission accomplished.
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theharperimage3 days ago
-3
hell yeah, bureaucrat us into submission, zaddy
-3
redditobserverone3 days ago
Dept of Moar. Come on media, when are you going to vex about Straitgate?
You used to love turning stuff into -gates or President so-and-so’s Katrina.
From the Strait to the ballroom you have a rich smorgasbord of disasters and dysfunctions you can relentlessly report like Benghazi or supply chain issues under Biden yet you all seem pretty tame about one of the the most disastrous presidential terms in American history.
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zetaphi9383 days ago
'Review peace deal'
Anything to grasp onto one more cent of market manipulation...
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