However, US intelligence assessments indicate that around half of Iran’s missile launchers remain intact.
My conclusion: to compete in modern warfare you need to have shit load of ballistic missiles.
Even Ukraine showed that.
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ImaginationSea27674 days ago
+105
Or enough c**** one way drones.
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liamthelad4 days ago
+56
or mountains
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CoffeBrain4 days ago
+7
Or nets
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Clunas4 days ago
+7
Not a tiny net! nooooooooo
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tlilsmash4 days ago
+4
Kung pow?
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f7f7z4 days ago
+3
THAT'S A LOT OF NUTS!
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tlilsmash4 days ago
+1
He just left.... with nutz
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Mr_Engineering4 days ago
+28
>My conclusion: to compete in modern warfare you need to have shit load of ballistic missiles.
It's more than that.
It's not enough to just have a shitload of ballistic missiles, one needs to have the means to defend them and disperse them otherwise they will simply become big and juicy targets that will get wiped out before they can be used
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CommunalJellyRoll4 days ago
+7
Even in 91 Iraq we had SCUD hunters.
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Brambleshire4 days ago
-10
If I recall correctly we didn't destroy a single scud
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[deleted]4 days ago
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Shes_dead_Jim4 days ago
+46
To be fair, you’d be surprised what those guys can do with a Toyota and some scrap metal
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Wertsache4 days ago
+15
That’s enough for rocket artillery but won’t help you target anything even 100km away in a remotely accurate fashion.
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Say_no_to_doritos4 days ago
+6
You can send a shahed 500km+.
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Wertsache4 days ago
+7
Yeah you can but the article and comment was specifically about ballistic missiles. Nobody credible is entertaining the idea of surpressing shahed launches by destroying their launchers.
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xXShitpostbotXx4 days ago
+11
Iran's missile systems that are causing so much trouble are not truck mounted mobile systems, those are trivial to destroy. It's the thousands of tiny holes in the ground leading down to their hundreds of missile city tunnel systems that the US is having so much trouble plugging and keeping plugged
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Head_Sympathy_33334 days ago
-63
You know what's funny? Israel has many of those ready to be launched. But it refuses to launch them indiscriminately.
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im_bozack4 days ago
+18
You know what's funny? Attempting to make Israel look like the good guy because it "refuses to launch them indiscriminately"
Ya ok Idiot 🫡
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TrontRaznik4 days ago
+4
If anything good comes of out of this war it'll be backlash against Trump, and public opinion finally seeing Israel for what it really is.
And for the record, I completely support the concept of a Jewish state and the existance of Israel. What I'm against is the sharp right wing turn of its government over the preceding couple decades.
And I'm also not discounting the role that the Arab and Persian worlds play in the conflict. There are no good sides here, but Israel has lost the plot when it comes to resolving regional conflict, and benefits from way too much benefit of the doubt.
The role of the US shouldn't be to pick sides, it should let them deal with their millenia old conflict while remaining a neutral arbiter with an interest in peace.
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icryinmysleep124 days ago
+5
A country commiting two genocides, illegal wars of aggression, occupying lands, expanding its borders, expulsion of people, mass migrations, indiscriminate laws, collective punishment, ceasefire violations (over 17,000 in Gaza and Lebanon), destroying civilian infrastructure, hospitals, ambulances, police stations, checkpoints, phosphor bombs, using drones with speakers to make sounds of babies, aid distribution site strikes, using bullets to guide crowds, double tapping sites, killing more journalists than in any wars before, destruction of water wells, males are raped by dogs in israeli prisons, women are raped for days, torture mental and physical, imprisoning children, old equipment is filled with explosives and driven into Palestine and set off etc but they refuse to launch missiles .
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Nightbal4 days ago
+3
Yes, it’s not indiscriminate at all. Very deliberately aimed at a school, hospital, ambulance, wedding…etc. You are absolutely correct these are discriminate deliberate targets.
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Scagnettio4 days ago
-4
Because nobody could discern them from their nukes and because they have significant air dominance so don't need to use them for that reason. Nothing funny about that.
If Iran had nukes, air dominance and the US on their side they probably also wouldn't fire ballistic missiles either.
Also why would Israel only be able to launch them indiscriminately?
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MarginallyUseful4 days ago
-7
OMG you’re right, that’s so funny!
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TheTelegraph4 days ago
+101
**From The Telegraph:**
Iran is digging out its underground missile bases during the ceasefire with the US and Israel, satellite imagery suggests.
Heavy machinery has been seen clearing debris from blocked tunnels, scooping up rubble and loading it into nearby trucks.
Those entrances were deliberately targeted in earlier strikes by the US and Israel, as part of a strategy aimed at trapping missile launchers underground.
One satellite image taken on April 10 shows a front-end loader on a mound of debris that was sealing a tunnel entrance, with several dumper trucks waiting nearby at a missile base near Khomeyn, Iran.
A second image taken on the same day also showed construction equipment working at a site in Tabriz.
By blocking exit routes, the strikes sought to prevent launchers from deploying, firing or returning to reload.
However, US intelligence assessments indicate that around half of Iran’s missile launchers remain intact.
Earlier this month, the Pentagon said it had struck 11,000 targets in Iran within the first five weeks of war, while the Israel Defence Forces reported that three quarters of Iran’s missile launchers had been destroyed by March 7.
Last week, Gen Dan Caine, chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff, said the strikes had shattered Iran’s defence industrial base.
He said the US had dropped more than 13,000 munitions, striking missile and drone storage sites, naval assets and the country’s defence industry “to ensure that Iran cannot reconstitute the ability to project power outside their borders.”
Pete Hegseth, the US defence secretary, told reporters that Iran’s missile programme was “functionally destroyed”, with launchers and missiles “depleted and decimated and almost completely ineffective”.
But some American officials already expressed concern that Iran would use the break in fighting to rebuild some of its missile arsenal.
They have also warned that Tehran could seek to acquire comparable systems from Russia to bolster its capabilities against its neighbours.
“The Iranians have shown a remarkable ability to innovate and reconstitute their forces quickly,” said Kenneth Pollack, a former CIA analyst now at the Middle East Institute, told the Washington Post.
“They are a much more formidable opponent than most Middle East militaries other than the Israelis.”
Many of these systems are believed to be buried within the underground network, rendered temporarily unusable rather than destroyed.
**This article is free to read:** [https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/04/15/iran-digging-for-buried-missile-launchers/](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/04/15/iran-digging-for-buried-missile-launchers/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_listnook_digging-for-buried-missile-launchers/&accesscontrol=facebookchannel_open)
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ihatewonderwall994 days ago
+46
>“They are a much more formidable opponent than most Middle East militaries other than the Israelis.”
"With the sole exception of Gojo Satoru of course" ass comment
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im_thatoneguy4 days ago
+8
If officials are concerned about what Iran will do in 2 weeks, what’s the plan for after the cease fire for years?
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KriosXVII4 days ago
+6
Wait until the americans figure out it's either a negotiated solution or you gotta bomb Iran every 6 month forever.
And then it's back to the old nuclear agreement...
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UnknownAverage4 days ago
+8
What's the point of creating new plans? We haven't been following our plans up until this point, and are actively shredding them every time the situation changes. We're just taking orders from Putin and Netanyahu.
The plan is to get back to where we can actually make plans and stick to them, which requires new leadership.
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ang-p4 days ago
+41
> “They are a much more formidable opponent than most Middle East militaries other than the Israelis.”
Just who was sucking off who when that was added to the copy?
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HugsForUpvotes4 days ago
+8
Israel is a nuclear power that just dominated Iran in traditional warfare.
Iran's only working strategy was hitting civilian ships.
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Pandaro814 days ago
+37
Iran took out all four of our THAAD arrays in the region, damaged six refueling planes, took out an AWAK, an F-16, two C-130s, two Black Hawk helicopters, hit an F-35, completely incapacitated 13 US bases in the region, drove the USS Gerald Ford out of the strait of Hormuz and it’s out of commission for repairs till September, and have almost exclusively (with rare exceptions comparatively) been targeting military locations and installations.
Even when they threatened US tech firms in the region they gave warnings well in advance.
Israel is laying waste to civilian neighborhoods, infrastructure, and committing documented war crimes on a daily basis; the most recent being executing a wounded man with a drone bomb in Lebanon. They killed 86 journalists last year before this war even started, have been targeting hospitals, blew up a girls boarding school killing over a hundred, and they’re hiding the damage they’ve taken from you by threatening five years imprisonment for anyone that posts about a missile strike in their borders. IDF generals have reportedly told their soldiers “the limits are off, there are no rules of engagement.”
Iran survived an onslaught by the mightiest combined military force in the world and gave it bloody nose. Every time we hear from Hegseth “their missile capabilities are completely destroyed,” we find out it’s half at best, and when the president tells us their anti-aircraft capabilities are completely gone they shoot something else down.
How is that in any way “only working strategy was hitting civilian ships”?
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iRegretsEverything4 days ago
+15
All within a span of 2 months.
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theonlyturkey4 days ago
-7
Lol Iran executed a record number of people in the first quarter of this year, over 800 people, for things like adultery and homosexuality, get out of here with this nonsense, not to mention Iran is currenly digging up buried damaged assets, while less than 15 planes in a rounding error in the U.S miltary. I think they'll be alright.
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AromaticMacaron79254 days ago
+13
And the US and Israel blow up hospitals and double tap civilian districts so that they can kill the first responders in order to enhance the chaos and damage of their strikes.
Both sides are bad. But you know what? I don't really care about what Iran does to it's own people. I care about what WE do to THEM. because if they can do it to others they can do it to me.
And sure. 'rounding error' to the tune 51 Billion, over 350 casualties to the US forces and over 22k Iranian civilians for a grand total of 5k Iraqi soldiers, chaos across the world and the myth of American might dispelled before the eyes of the entire world.
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theonlyturkey3 days ago
-1
You guys sound like propaganda mouthpieces, the U.S. has lost approximately 15 soldiers, any loss of life is tragic but come why are you spouting this stuff. I didn't vote for Trump can acknowledge both sides have done immoral things, but acting like the U.S. is equal to the people publicly hanging and stoning their own citizen, some for being raped has to be the wildest thing ever. There's a reason everyone in the middle east hates Iran, and they've even admitted to trying for nuclear weapons and have said they'll try again.
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TheDirtyPilgrim3 days ago
+2
You obviously have no idea what a casualty is.
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theonlyturkey3 days ago
+1
I know what a casualty is, but other's might not. When you hear a plane crashed and there was 200 casualties, you assumed that means dead. Saying 350 casualties when 90% of that could be paper cuts or allergies just seems disingenuous, but what ever glaze Iran's balls I'm sure you would love it over there.
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Pandaro813 days ago
+4
Actually I’ve got a friend in Tehran. She’s an independent filmmaker. The regime is brutal but actual day to day life isn’t anything like you likely imagine it to be.
Haven’t been able to contact her in weeks btw.
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xSaRgED4 days ago
+2
Saudis won’t like that quote.
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Heronymous-Anonymous4 days ago
+24
They won’t like it, but it’s been the truth since the 80’s. The Saudi military is a joke and everyone knows it. Their Air Force is the only part that even approaches competency, and that’s because it’s a prestige position and they get to come to the US to train.
Their army doesn’t train, they don’t do their own maintenance, they just drive their vehicles to a gunnery range and ammo dump and go home. They treat their equipment like big toys. They know they don’t need a good military because so long as the US needs their oil we will be there to fight their wars for them.
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NeedleworkerPure71624 days ago
-28
Israeli conscripts can't even handle Hezbollah..........let alone the IRGC.
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krayniac4 days ago
+9
Remind me how hezbollah leadership is doing these days
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SetOpening31634 days ago
+12
HeZBOLlah iS wINNinG
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SockPuppet-474 days ago
+6
If only the cowards wore proper military uniforms instead of women's burkas. They'd be way easier to sort out from civilians if they weren't hiding among the civilians.
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NeedleworkerPure71624 days ago
+1
[ Removed by Listnook ]
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s3ph4 days ago
-8
Israel is an artificial temporary colony. Not a traditionally established middle eastern state.
Hence why it doesn't come to mind when you think of the Middle East.
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CmonTouchIt4 days ago
+4
Lol what
Artificial? By what measure?
Temporary? When's the closing date, can you share that with the rest of the class?
Colony? Of what country lmao
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lembrar_de_mim4 days ago
-5
Sounds like the things Russians write to justify having been in Ukraine for 3 years.
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ang-p4 days ago
+1
Strange that you say that...
That quote came from the mouth of the honestly-totally-analytical-not-a-chance-that-they-could-be-seen-to-be-biased-in-any-way [Kenneth Pollack](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_M._Pollack#Personal_life)
I only discovered this after your comment made me think... and google him.
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NeedleworkerPure71624 days ago
-21
"other than the Israelis"............in a one on one fight i'd bet on Iran.
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angrysquirrel7774 days ago
+8
Who killed who's leadership just a few weeks ago lol
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Junior_Gazelle95244 days ago
-5
And one more thing to remember the irg soldiers have real combat experience from fighting all over the middle east like syria,iraq, yemen, lebanon and other places this kind of experience is only marched by israel in the middle east
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Broad-Lobster74704 days ago
+62
Great🙃.
Now we can hit them again and say they are completely obliterated for a third time …
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EndOfDecadence4 days ago
+17
This is how you keep winning!
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LowExercise95924 days ago
+13
as any self respecting nation would do, not something unexpected.
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sl4ssh4 days ago
+6
Off to Truth Social amirite?! 😂😂😂
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spareminuteforworms4 days ago
-18
So if they are digging out the tunnels, send in autonomous drone swarms into the tunnels and mop up.
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StanknBeans4 days ago
+14
Just send this future tech we don't have, easy peazy you dummies
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spareminuteforworms4 days ago
-16
Lol you think we don't have autonomous drones?
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StanknBeans4 days ago
+14
Not that we can deploy in the manner you're suggesting, no.
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spareminuteforworms4 days ago
-11
What features are missing?
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AshhhCakes4 days ago
+8
First you say autonomous drone swarms, then you try to belittle someone by saying just "autonomous drones," leaving off the swarm part. Drones are required for swarms, but drones do not guarantee swarms. The US may have autonomous drones, but where are the American autonomous drone swarms? Where are they Mr Worms??
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spareminuteforworms4 days ago
-6
Holy nitpick. I left of a single word which would really be implied by autonomous.
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