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DRKMSTR Apr 13, 2026 +1039

*that we know of

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KoalaBJJ96 Apr 13, 2026 +426

Yep. There’s a reason they cut the internet off asap.

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FedBySheep Apr 13, 2026 +184

This report isn't related to the recent internet cutoffs. It's about hangings - executions - in 2025. The massacre of protestors in 2026 is estimated to be somewhere between 2k and 30k, depending on sources. Internet cutoffs have typically been during protest periods, and war.

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ISO_3103_ Apr 13, 2026 +103

30k is the number of deaths confirmed by hospitals across Iran. It does not take into account dissappearances or kidnapping and summary execution (they don't return remains) by authorities during the protests.

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OMalleyOrOblivion Apr 13, 2026 +53

They killed a quarter of a million back in 2006, there's no way they 'only' killed 30k this time around.

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FedBySheep Apr 13, 2026 +17

What event are you referring to?

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OMalleyOrOblivion Apr 13, 2026 +38

Sorry, 2009,the Green Revolution.

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Wugo_Heaving Apr 13, 2026 +7

It was a Tuesday

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BasicMatter7339 Apr 13, 2026 +3

What happened in 2006?

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OMalleyOrOblivion Apr 13, 2026 +4

Sorry, 2009,the Green Revolution.

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BasicMatter7339 Apr 13, 2026 +32

Where'd you get the info that they killed a 'quarter of a million' people? All sources i found said that the death toll ranged from ~40 to ~100-200 Which is still far too many, but way less than _250 000_

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GreenFox1505 Apr 13, 2026 +2

They have decided that allowing their citizens to post about America bombing is less helpful than allowing their citizens to post about the government's actions would harm.

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WrongAssumption Apr 14, 2026 +4

Yes, that’s what “at least” means.

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BasicMatter7339 Apr 13, 2026 +471

4.5 people a day on average. Horrifying

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DiscipleOfYeshua Apr 13, 2026 +125

For the crime of speaking truth, wanting a future, basic human rights and loving your country. All of which are not what IRGC terrorists and dictators are interested in.

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bluechewdotkom Apr 14, 2026 +5

Actually the article says the 6 executed ad the war was going on were accused of being MEK members, and the people executed in 2025 weren't punished for protests happening in 2026, Minority Report technology hasn't made it to Iran as far as I'm aware. The report clearly says half of these executions are drug related, which is its own messed up issue, completely unrelated to protesters.

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Dlinyenki Apr 13, 2026 +24

It's *horrifying*, not mortifying. Unless this causes you extreme shame and embarrassment instead of horror, which I doubt Sorry, I see this everywhere and it drives me batshit

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BasicMatter7339 Apr 13, 2026 +33

Ah i see, English isnt my first language so my mistake here

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GMBethernal Apr 13, 2026 +10

Native English speakers tend to get mortified when non natives make mistakes (not this guy though)

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Dlinyenki Apr 14, 2026 +3

Oh, got you. My bad then. Hell, I see this even with native English speakers.

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D_Simmons Apr 13, 2026 +21

This comment is mortifying

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ianf2k13 Apr 13, 2026 +9

People are literally dying. But yeah…you get annoyed at the wrong word

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Next_Instruction_528 Apr 13, 2026 +450

Yea great guys Iran executes more people per capita than almost any country on earth — averaging more than one per day. They do it publicly, by crane, using a thick rope designed specifically to prevent the neck from breaking, so death comes slowly by strangulation over 10-45 minutes while crowds watch. The victims include children. Iran is the world's leading executor of minors — imprisoning them until they're just old enough to kill legally. A 16-year-old girl with bipolar disorder was hanged for "crimes against chastity" (running away from home). Her death took 45 minutes.

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Saberinbed Apr 13, 2026 +162

Dont forget that they also have to r*** every single women before they get hanged.

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OSUfan88 Apr 13, 2026 +49

Wait, what?

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CookieCutter9000 Apr 13, 2026 +161

The Iranian regime believes that virgins still have a chance to join Allah, so they r*** them before executing them, which is the claim. Many reports coming out of the regime from human rights watch orgs do report systematic r*** from security forces in prison, especially against ethnic and religious minorities. [HRW](https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2025/country-chapters/iran) [Iran International](https://www.iranintl.com/en/202602031576) [Amnesty International](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/12/iran-security-forces-used-r***-and-other-sexual-violence-to-crush-woman-life-freedom-uprising-with-impunity/)

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applehead1776 Apr 13, 2026 +55

If you believe there is a god, and believe that that god would eternally punish women for being raped, why would you worship that god? People baffle me sometimes.

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Iron_Disciple Apr 13, 2026 +22

The same reason they r*** women thinking it will earn them eternal damnation?

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mymemesnow Apr 13, 2026 +29

That’s seriously fk’d up. Just when I thought the Iranian regime couldn’t be more evil.

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RaphaTlr Apr 13, 2026 +25

Islamic regime. Don’t blame the innocent Iranians

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Probably_immortal Apr 13, 2026 +4

Eh Iranians are part of the regime. As much as people like to build this narrative that majority do not support the regime if it wasn't the case the regime would have been gone by now. Men and people in power support this regime. The protesters are largely youth and women. This is the same situation as in Russia. While it looks like 40% are against Putin and outspoken the 60% are the adults in charge who are more than happy to look away and not intervene in anything political. I have relatives (I am part Ukrainian) in Russia who are regular working people and we used to consider them family but no longer talk to us cause of the war and want Putin to finish the job with Ukrainians and kill all of them. Indifference is support in a totalitarian regime but you'd be surprised how many people are unhinged in these countries.

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RaphaTlr Apr 13, 2026 +7

By your logic Trump’s behavior is the American regime and Americans are to blame. Even the ones he’s killing and deporting. Majority disapprove so he should’ve been gone by now, according to you. Seem fair? No. Life doesn’t work that way. Stop vilifying ‘other’ people just because you don’t understand them

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Kalthiria_Shines Apr 14, 2026 +7

> By your logic Trump’s behavior is the American regime and Americans are to blame I mean, yes? Do you think we're not complicit?

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Y0D98 Apr 14, 2026 +4

Obviously Americans are to blame. They voted him and put him in a position where he can do what he does

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ChaLenCe Apr 13, 2026 +8

This is horrifying

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OfficerBarbier Apr 13, 2026 +15

Makes sense why many Iranians have said they actually want foreign countries to attack, they're beyond desperate to have the ruling regime destroyed Regardless of whether foreign intervention is right or wrong, this is a very common sentiment among millions of Iranians worldwide

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the_original_kermit Apr 14, 2026 +5

This needs to be heard more. Iranians are so opposed inside of their own country that they are literally begging for foreign intervention by form of war as a way to get out of it.

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Nautical_Disaster1 Apr 14, 2026 +4

I'm not saying that doesn't happen, but I read all three of those links and none of them mentions raping before an execution.

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sproge Apr 14, 2026 +2

None of those link say anything at all about the claim you're making about raping "virgins still have a chance to join Allah"...

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Proper_Card_5520 Apr 13, 2026 +37

So they won't go to heaven

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andrerav Apr 14, 2026 +5

This is so insanely dark and depressing to think about. Absolute horror. There is no heaven or hell. Your mind disappears when your brain dies. We get one chance to live a life. Just one. We are so f****** hopeless as a civilization. Komm, süsser tod.

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Sprinkle_Puff Apr 14, 2026 +2

Humanity couldn’t handle that simple truth, so they created religion.

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OSUfan88 Apr 13, 2026 +9

Is this true? Is there a source? Genuine question.

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Proper_Card_5520 Apr 13, 2026 +16

They believe women who lose virginity before marriage go to hell, so if you r*** her it full fills the condition for her to go hell (they just want sex so they came up with builshit exaus)

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shady00041 Apr 14, 2026 +3

No, it's not true. It's just a ridiculous accusation.

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avatinfernus Apr 13, 2026 +9

Yeah virgins go to heaven or somethin'

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Settra_Rulez Apr 13, 2026 +3

It was a policy publicly advocated by the original supreme leader.

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J0hnGrimm Apr 13, 2026 +7

Did you also happen to watch the Into to Shadows video on YouTube? The article says the majority of the hangings were carried out in prisons so they might not have used cranes. I doubt they switched to drop hangings though and still let them suffer.

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Bradley271 Apr 13, 2026 +2

Are you quoting from an article? EDIT: The only record of a 16-year old girl being hanged I was able to find was Atefeh Sahaaleh. She was hanged for "crimes against chastity", but the "charges/trial" were legitimately even more unjust than what you've described.

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abeBroham-Linkin Apr 13, 2026 +87

There's a reason why they cut their Internet to the whole country

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rubber_moon Apr 13, 2026 +143

You can be against the action of Israel and the USA but still feel a bit justice being served when some of those who ordered these executions are dead now.

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IAmANobodyAMA Apr 13, 2026 +51

What an achievement. The UN should nominate them for the human rights council!

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DeeperMadness Apr 13, 2026 +18

Could be candidates for the next fifa peace prize.

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LilyBelle504 Apr 14, 2026 +2

I like how the irony of this will go over many people's heads. >Commission for Social Development: In February 2026, Iran was elected as a vice-chair of this commission. Human Rights Council Advisory Committee: Iranian official Afsaneh Nadipour served as a full member during the 34th session in February 2026. Right as Iran was cracking down on the protestors.

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IAmANobodyAMA Apr 14, 2026 +2

The UN is a joke, sadly

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LilyBelle504 Apr 14, 2026 +3

I remember when this was happening in the middle of the ongoing crackdowns. Oh, and don't forget when the head of the UN, Guterres, congratulated the regime on their 1979 revolution day (February 11 2026)... also during the ongoing crackdowns. Real brave that guy.

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xmuskorx Apr 13, 2026 +26

we all know that Trump shit the bad, but it does not make Iran the good guy they remain a giant security problem to the region, the world, and a menace to their own people

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EducationalPlay6269 Apr 13, 2026 +7

You are expecting logic to exist on Listnook.

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Shebalied Apr 13, 2026

This is the problem with listnook currently. Everyone is a bot or a moron who gets their info from tiktok. Two things can be true and both can be right.

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aedroogo Apr 13, 2026 +222

Article: Iran committed atrocities against it's own citizens and continue to do so with no signs of remorse whatsoever. Listnook: America sucks.

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SP0oONY Apr 13, 2026 +117

I swear some people on listnook are the dumbest. One thing being true doesn't mean the other is false. Iran sucks, but the US' actions under Trump also suck.

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ViolenceAdvocator Apr 13, 2026 +11

I f****** hate the iranian regime. Now iranians can be victims of two awful regimes at the same time!

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CILISI_SMITH Apr 13, 2026 +5

I've seen a couple of these "Look Iran bad! So why Listnook like them so much?!" threads recently with these comments in. I think it's an attempt to shift anger away from the US and Israel by implying their war is against an evil regime so it must be a good thing. Simple logic, except it Ignores the war is a f****** failure, it's made the regime more evil, powerful and soon richer.

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aedroogo Apr 13, 2026 +8

So we're agreeing that the Iranian regime needs to be dismantled and just quibbling over what nation does the dismantling?

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TastySpermDispenser7 Apr 14, 2026 +6

Yes it does. By Iranians.

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CILISI_SMITH Apr 13, 2026 +3

I don't care what nation does it (although I'm prefer no external nation at all, since purely internal change has a better chance of longer term success) but I do care how it's done. Or in the case of the US and Israel, not done just made worse.

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aedroogo Apr 13, 2026 +1

And yet look at these comments. The default, overwhelming response here to an article about Iranian executions was to condemn the U.S. government. Let's see how many answers I can get to this question without a 'but': Do you feel the nation of Iran enough of a threat to it's neighbors and it's own citizens to warrant intervention by an outside party?

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SedatedSpaceMonkeys Apr 13, 2026 +10

The most upvotes are just saying how horrible it is and then yours. How is that an “overwhelming response to condemn the U.S.?”

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mmoore327 Apr 13, 2026 +89

Both can be true

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Used_Butterfly3959 Apr 13, 2026 +9

Yeah, but to put it in perspective... this is the amount of people the US prison system has executed since the death penalty was reinstated in 1976. Iran did this in a year, not 50

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SteveJobsDeadBody Apr 13, 2026 +6

Perspective? I have one of those. How many Americans die each year because we allow companies like United Health to deny them covered care? Why are deaths by fanatical Muslims highlighted but deaths by fanatical capitalists skipped over? The answer is "it varies" and it is in the range of 22,000-400,000 a year. Now lets talk prison. America is the richest nation on earth, we could and should reform prison so it is rehabilitative. About 4000 Americans die needlessly in our underfunded prisons per year, because we refuse to reform and improve them. That's more than this "1639" people as well. When you are very specific about the cause of death you can make Iran look bad. When you step back and look at overall preventable death the US looks like 100x worse than Iran.

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Used_Butterfly3959 Apr 13, 2026 +5

Cite your sources. I don't have a single source that has 4000 Americans dying in custody each year from preventable issues. In fact, the only stat I can find is about 500 across the entire US. It's important to note that you won't be able to find a source for either the US or Iran that's definitive because neither country records those stats particularly well. You're also bringing up unrelated stats that have zero bearing on the discussion, which is about the amount of people sentenced to death and executed by either state. The US carried out 47 executions last year. 47.

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bobdob123usa Apr 13, 2026 +4

Police shot and killed 1,278 people in 2025 according to this obviously biased site: https://policebrutalitycenter.org/police-brutality/statistics/ And another 3,825 died in police custody in 2024 of something other than natural causes: https://bja.ojp.gov/program/dcra/reported-data So yeah, Iran sucks, but the US isn't all roses

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Used_Butterfly3959 Apr 13, 2026 +5

Did I say that? You, like the other person, brought up unrelated stats. This is about the number of public executions. Speaking of police brutality.... [https://www.hrw.org/news/2026/01/16/iran-growing-evidence-of-countrywide-massacres](https://www.hrw.org/news/2026/01/16/iran-growing-evidence-of-countrywide-massacres) If you can cite a biased source, I can too!

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MasterGrok Apr 13, 2026 +22

Are you unironically saying this without a hint of awareness that two things can be bad at the same time? Hey guys we found one easy secret that erases all of your bad deeds. Just invade a country that is worse!

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bigsampsonite Apr 13, 2026 +3

Arab and Islamic countries have not done much to help Iranian citizens. That's really sad. Trump doesn't give a shit about their lives at all. Just a huge mass of people who have no real help at the moment. Israel has already wiped out Palestine. I dont see anything getting better in the long run.

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cheesaremorgia Apr 13, 2026 +3

America does suck. So does Iran. And?

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artisticbus Apr 13, 2026 +5

It doesn’t have to be one or the other, 2 things can be true at the same time. When you grow up hopefully you’ll understand.

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Secret-Ad-2145 Apr 13, 2026 +3

It is possible to both dislike the Iranian regime, acknowledge the difficulty of on ground reality of regime change, and also dislike the dictatorial conduct from Trump - all three at the same time. Lets not act like children.

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Playful_Rip_1280 Apr 13, 2026 +3

Yup. Zero tears shed for dead regime bodies here!

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LilyBelle504 Apr 14, 2026 +5

listnookors: "I don't support the Iranian regime" listnookors seeing a post criticizing the Iranian regime: "Yea, but what about the US!"

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sovietarmyfan Apr 13, 2026 +287

Activists when Iran executes people: Activists when Iran forces gay people to have gender reaffirming surgery: Activists when Israel does anything: NO! NO! DON'T DO IT! ITS EVIL! ABSOLUTELY EVIL!

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Darth_Hamburger Apr 13, 2026 +131

I’ve seen multiple threads with listnookors discussing the merits of Iran having a nuclear weapon. Just absolute insanity, hopefully bots.

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dragon_idli Apr 13, 2026 +32

There are no merits for anyone having nuclear weapons. We have seen unstable people holding positions of power.

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Dismal_Buy3580 Apr 13, 2026 +11

Any country on earth paying attention to the last 3 years should be frantically, furiously trying to achieve a bomb. Only f****** way to ensure security, apparently.

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Darth_Hamburger Apr 13, 2026 +8

Unstable people will hold positions of power whether we have ICBMs or not, but the existence of these weapons may be the only reason you’re not fighting a war in Eastern Europe right now. The powerful don’t have to fear a war of attrition, but they do have to fear nuclear annihilation.

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Suitable-Annual-8716 Apr 13, 2026 +129

I can condemn all those things. It’s actually way easier than having to twist yourself to justify actions based on who did them.

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milespoints Apr 13, 2026 +32

Same here but i think what they are getting at is that there is very little actual discourse on this. You never hear about the constant march of crimes regimes in countries like Iran and North Korea commit against their own people every day. Most of us know that bad things are probably happening, but more or less accept it as “that’s just the way it is”. It’s rarely in the news etc

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Monteze Apr 13, 2026 +35

Probably because we don't have a bunch of assholes going "Iran is our greatest ally!" and giving them a ton of money for no good reason.

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Healter-Skelter Apr 13, 2026 +18

Yeah how is this not obvious? I have a problem with human rights abuses wherever they happen. In Iran, it isn’t MY MONEY funding the regime. In Israel, it is. So it makes more sense to loudly complaign about Israel doing war crimes, because I’m mad that *I’m* being compelled to participate through taxation.

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altcntrl Apr 13, 2026 +3

It’s obvious if you’re paying attention and not if you’re only scanning through headlines.

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986754321 Apr 13, 2026 +1

People from countries who don't send any money there seem just as obsessed. It's about ideology, not tax dollars.

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WhosThatYousThat Apr 13, 2026 +4

> You never hear about the constant march of crimes regimes in countries like Iran and North Korea commit against their own people every day. Is this a joke? We hear about these things all the time.

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LordAmras Apr 13, 2026 +2

Is the classic discussion there was between Hitler vs Stalin. If you kill your own general international policy is not to interfeer, is when you kill other people that then everyone get uneasy, because they don't know where you will stop.

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Frozen_Thorn Apr 13, 2026 +19

I don't remember my taxes paying for Iranian rope. I do know my tax dollars pay for Israeli bombs.

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reivers Apr 13, 2026 +2

"I can't believe this unfounded war Israel and the US brought to Iran!"

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yolonaggins Apr 13, 2026 +11

These comments always ignore the reality of the situation. In the US, everyone knows Iran is bad. The difference is that our country actively supports and supplies Israel with weapons to carry out their atrocities. They're our allies. We don't supply Iran with the tools they use to slaughter innocents.

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FedBySheep Apr 13, 2026 +60

> In the US, everyone knows Iran is bad. This is not remotely true. There are no shortage of useful idiots in the US who will do their best to portray Iran as an innocent state. > We don't supply Iran with the tools they use to slaughter innocents. One could argue that making deals with Iran, lifting sanctions, etc, is turning a blind eye to their oppression of millions.

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electrorazor Apr 13, 2026 +2

Yes and people were pissed when Trump lifted sanctions on Iran. I don't see the contradiction

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ThisWillBeFunny1469 Apr 13, 2026 -8

First example: What a country does to its citizens and inhabitants Second example: What a country does to its citizens and inhabitants Third example: What a country does to other countries' citizens and inhabitants and labels it as defense

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ColdCauliflour Apr 13, 2026 +34

All three examples: innocent lives are lost. I hope I cleared that up for you.

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Fr0st3dcl0ud5 Apr 13, 2026 +19

*The UN does not enter the chat*

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TheBBBfromB Apr 13, 2026 +11

what about 2026? wasnt it some 12,000-30,000?

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fckingmiracles Apr 13, 2026 +4

Those were Iranians being killed in the street by the government. This now is the number of death penalties the regime enacted additionally.

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____DEADPOOL_______ Apr 13, 2026 +3

My aunt and cousin had arrest warrants to be hung for teaching Baha'i children's classes in the 80s. One of my aunt's students was [Mona Mahmudnizhad](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mona_Mahmudnizhad). Many people are experiencing this kind of death. My aunt and cousins had to flee the country through ways that deeply affected my youngest cousin's mental behaviour. What can a Baha'i do? How do we escape this persecution? Well, they offer a way. The way out is to force the member of the religion to denounce their beliefs publicly and then do harm existing members who already live as second class citizens with no access to higher education. These people are vile and disgraceful. I am so afraid for them. Some of my relatives are still there. Who knows what they will do to them if this war ends up leaving them more empowered and emboldened.

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Areltoid Apr 13, 2026 +67

surely America/Israel stepping in to bomb civilians and destroy critical infrastructure will fix this issue

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the_joker3011 Apr 13, 2026 +57

That's another conversation. Try to hold more than one thought in your head for once.

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hurdurnotavailable Apr 13, 2026 +20

Hengaw data show 8-1 military to civ casualty rate. So, in reality Israel and USA are killing the regime goons that prevent the Iranian people from taking their country back.

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stealth-13 Apr 13, 2026 +7

That make it worse. It has created nationalism that Government need the most. People ignore internal conflict to fight external enemy.

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theoceansknow Apr 13, 2026 +20

Nationalism was already present. It hasn't created anything.

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Used_Butterfly3959 Apr 13, 2026 +1

No, war inherently creates a stronger national identity. This is what you learn in International Politics 101. Literally.

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dja1000 Apr 13, 2026 +10

Large parts of the world love these guys thus enabling them, pure evil and a stain on the earth,

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Opening_Dog_570 Apr 13, 2026 +41

Should we feel sorry and that's it or should we act and stop it by destroying the regime? Question for AFK listnookors

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HDauthentic Apr 13, 2026 +72

We stop trying to assign binary sets of options to major geopolitical situations. The US already picked “destroy the regime”, it isn’t working very well from a “new regime” point of view.

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shes_a_gdb Apr 13, 2026 +11

Destroying the regime doesn't even seem to be on the table anymore. They just want to open the Strait of Hormuz... honestly this entire thing was completely pointless if they come to an agreement and the regime stays as is.

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hahaz13 Apr 13, 2026 +46

The logical fallacy that people keep parroting is that because we don’t support the way America is dealing with this, we must be in support of the current Iranian regime.

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pmormr Apr 13, 2026 +5

Personally, I think we should let them blow each other up over there and spend the $400 billion on stuff like energy independence, infrastructure, and healthcare. But apparently I have an unpopular vision for america. Instead the Republicans care so much about brown people halfway around the world that they're willing to blow a hole in the little of what's left in the government's wealth to defend "justice" halfway around the world. Apparently. Since all you defenders of this BS care about that shit now, it's just DEI and woke bullshit over here when we talk about justice for Americans

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dbratell Apr 13, 2026 +7

This is about Epstein, oil and Trump's ego. If you think that Trump actually cares about anyone in Iran, I have a really nice bridge to sell you. For Israel it is a bit different, but you are clearly talking about the US. Best case, something good comes out of this. The most likely case is that everything becomes worse for the people in Iran.

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Equipmunk Apr 13, 2026 +49

Saudi Arabia executed 356 people last year. Should the US and Israel bomb them too?

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Skele_again Apr 13, 2026 +33

I havent googled but, Im sure the number of people executed on death row or killed via cop in the US isn't zero. Maybe the US should bomb the US?

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Next_Instruction_528 Apr 13, 2026 +10

Iran executes more people per capita than almost any country on earth — averaging more than one per day. They do it publicly, by crane, using a thick rope designed specifically to prevent the neck from breaking, so death comes slowly by strangulation over 10-45 minutes while crowds watch. The victims include children. Iran is the world's leading executor of minors — imprisoning them until they're just old enough to kill legally. A 16-year-old girl with bipolar disorder was hanged for "crimes against chastity" (running away from home). Her death took 45 minutes.

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Fubi-FF Apr 13, 2026 +7

So is there a threshold where we go “ok this number is too high, we bomb them” vs. “Ok you are not executing enough of your own people, we let it go”? If so, what’s the number and why?

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espinaustin Apr 13, 2026 +10

Damn we should probably just bomb the whole country to smithereens and invade *and run the country ourselves for around 10 years, to save them, amirite? (/s)

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Daedalus81 Apr 13, 2026 +5

Well, we did get a new more hardline Ayatollah so surely things will improve now!

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[deleted] Apr 13, 2026 +2

the one thats disfigured, and in a coma? what a hol(e)y leader

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arontmt Apr 13, 2026 +2

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Lefaid Apr 13, 2026 +3

The US probably should stop sending them so many weapons and so much money, yes.

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gamas Apr 13, 2026 +23

No, we recognise pragmatic reality that trying to destroy the regime the way Israel/USA have done was clearly never going to work - and if it did would have likely resulted in an Afghanistan/Iraq/Libya-like situation. Because it turns out simply toppling a nation's government doesn't tend to lead to good results if you don't plan on helping them sort out the resulting mess over the next decade. Basically "destroying the regime" and creating a democratic free, US aligned Iran is pure fantasy. And everyone who is not the US/Israel knew that a military intervention of this sort would either entrench the regime further (as it has) or lead to something much worse.

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ohnohelpwhereamI Apr 13, 2026 +26

It sucks. The place is BAD. Not gonna say it isn't. But there are a LOT of bad places in this world and we aren't the damn world police. Also there is the issue of us all knowing damn well that is NOT what this war is about.

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[deleted] Apr 13, 2026 +7

we are the world police. we tried isolationism twice. each time we went back to doing our own thing, europe kept getting into wars with itself. that entire ideology flipped after WW2 the US had the economy, the military, and the allies to become the world’s global policeman. while europe rebuilt (with the US’s help), the US projected its power across the world so that nations could rebuild without being totally broke, and so that they wouldnt attempt to annex one another this stuck around to this day fun fact: now is currently europes record for relative peace, 1945-present. 81 years makes it the longest stretch without a general, continent-wide war in europe in recorded history

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pseudowoodo3 Apr 13, 2026 +1

Ding ding ding. Every time America tries to play world police it makes things worse. This is the point the left tries to make but any criticism of starting this war makes the right hysterically call you a jihadist Ayatollah supporter or whatever.

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DexJedi Apr 13, 2026 +25

The idealist would say "destroy the regime". But in reality the world does not work in that way. Experts knew as much. Only naive fled Iranians and Trump thought otherwise. But you present it as if there are only 2 options. There is a wide array of possibilities in between.

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Wonderful_Discount59 Apr 13, 2026 +11

After the debacles of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and Syria, what makes you think that (attempting to) destroy a regime will actually make things better?

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forchinski Apr 13, 2026 +2

Well let's first consult the United States track record for regime change in foreign countries. Banana Republic banana Republic banana Republic safeguarding us foreign oil interests banana Republic safeguarding us foreign oil interests democratically elected leader overthrown democratically elected leader over...

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the_monkeyspinach Apr 13, 2026 +2

Do you mean "act" by bombing civilians before they can be executed?

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steveycip Apr 13, 2026 +6

Iran is horrble to their people and this war is also pointless. Both things can be true.

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nyjets10 Apr 13, 2026 +11

But the lefty idiots on here are cheerleading for the Iranian regime because orange man bad by the way, do you know who funds everything in Gaza/Hamas? Yeah, same regime the entire world cheerleads for. Its insane.

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Sometimesmaybegay Apr 13, 2026 +5

Manufacture that consent baby

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Slight_Owl2326 Apr 13, 2026 +5

Usa kills its people through incompetence mostly. How many hunderds of thousands died pointlessly to covid thanks to Trump giving dumbass advice...

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BuddhistGamer95 Apr 13, 2026 +4

I’d love to clutch my pearls but we kill people here too.

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theoceansknow Apr 13, 2026 -1

This is the type of government palestinian supporters aspire to Snark aside, I read a wiki on Palestinian elections in the early 2000's and it's cool to read there were one or two political groups in the mix that supported peace and progress. They got less than one percentage point of the vote total, but damn I wish their platforms could get amplified by the sign wavers on the US streets

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electrorazor Apr 13, 2026 +5

Is peace and progress even possible with Israel as your neighbor? Or is that just a road to total oblivion? At least that's what I would be thinking if I was Palestinian.

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Trappist1 Apr 13, 2026 +7

I feel like you're trying to push something if the entire article was about Iran, and you only mention the US and Israel in your comment.

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cetootski Apr 13, 2026 +2

Define self determination.

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Alleandros Apr 13, 2026 +3

The US was 47 in 2025. As of August 2025, there were 2013 inmates on death row. All countries should eliminate state sponsored executions.

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victorspoilz Apr 14, 2026 +2

How many did America kill to install an even more extremist government?

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Ultra_Metal Apr 13, 2026 +3

Shame on France, shame on the UK and shame on Spain for defending that evil regime.

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electrorazor Apr 13, 2026 +8

Most of the shame lies on the UK and US, for causing this regime in the first place

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2harveza Apr 13, 2026 +2

Lmao make it less obvious

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SkyeLys Apr 13, 2026 +2

Yep, Iran is awful. Yes, they are still in the right with regard to us attacking them. They are still a sovereign nation. If you invade a sovereign nation, they have a right and a duty to their people to defend themselves. We are wrong for being there.

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LunchBoxMercenary Apr 13, 2026 +2

lol right? And the idea of “liberation” goes out the window when you threaten to bomb Iran back to the stone ages.

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Dyyrin Apr 13, 2026 +2

But let's keep shit talking the US everyone!

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Iran executed 'at least 1,639 people' in 2025, highest number since 1989

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