"Two weeks" is Trump speak for "there is no plan for this to actually happen, but I expect the dumb American public to forget about this promise."
1712
jesterdeflation2 days ago
+478
And sadly he's usually right.
478
dannyb_prodigy2 days ago
+228
Unfortunately for him, restricted traffic along the Strait is kind of hard for people to forget about and/or ignore.
228
classless_classic2 days ago
+145
Yup. Within a couple of weeks, most countries in the world will begin to feel the fuel shortage; the final refineries will receive their final shipments and the reserves will be used up. They can’t price in desperation, and fuel prices will continue to rise.
145
Fomentatore2 days ago
+145
The problem is not even oil at this point but fertilizer which it's dependent by LNG. People are going to starve because a lot of crops will fail because of this war.
145
ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive2 days ago
+113
And helium, which is required for processor production and can't be easily stored because atoms are tiny and diffuse even through metal.
Once helium supply chains stop, so does most of the world's tech / electronics production.
113
Wecancallmeb2 days ago
+29
This. I’m in the medical field and we’re already getting warnings about limiting MRIs as they have to use helium to cool the giant electromagnets in the machines. It’s going to be felt in many fields if this keeps up.
29
anglerfishtacos2 days ago
+16
It’s not just LNG. Ammonia, nitrous, and sulfur also come from that region. Something like 50% of the world sulfur comes from that region, which is used in phosphate fertilizer— a crucial element for crop development, root establishment, and boosting resistance to disease. The farmers are planting now and need the fertilizer right now.
16
Amoralvirus2 days ago
+11
That is a price trump is willing for others to pay, to save the world from a made-up Iranian nuclear holocost. I can actually imagine the deranged POS in chief saying something like: ''These countries are happy to starve, to save their future generations from Iranian nuclear armageddon; praise Jesus, Allah, and Meeee; but mostly ME.
11
HalKitzmiller2 days ago
+33
He can also just blame Biden. The cult loves the slop
33
Shabobo2 days ago
+38
Nah, this one will be on Obama and his "terrible" deal with Iran when in reality that deal was better than anyone expected but since it had Obama's name on it, Trump clearly had to destroy it.
38
koshgeo2 days ago
+65
"Two Trump Weeks" - An indefinite interval of time lasting between a few hours and several years, usually less than a decade.
65
phluidity2 days ago
+13
Nice though, that peace in the Middle East will happen at the same time as the complete reformation of the US health care system and the issuance of RFPs to modernize vast swaths of US infrastructure.
13
hitch442 days ago
+28
That’s two TACO Tuesdays
28
DoctrTurkey2 days ago
+23
putin is famous for 'strategic pauses' in which he acts like he's coming to the negotiating table in order to give his military time to regroup and attack again. trump wouldn't have requested a $1.5 trillion budget unless he was going to use it. for something other than embezzlement to his sons, i mean.
23
pres4652 days ago
+17
It's also standard "contractor speak" for this work will get done soon, but not today.
17
JesterMan4912 days ago
+63
"i will create some new unhinged bullshit between now and then as a distraction."
63
Kataphractoi2 days ago
+44
He's probably wishing he'd gone after Cuba instead.
44
Fractal_Strike2 days ago
+11
I feel like he would have lost to Greenland at this point...
11
BruteBassie2 days ago
+22
"Two weeks" is just Trump saying he's too weak.
22
SgtSchultz21122 days ago
+46
How long are you visiting Mars
46
Cent12342 days ago
+7
Get ready for a surprise!
7
Odd_Vampire2 days ago
+7
lol I was going to look for that as a gif.
7
pat_the_catdad2 days ago
+30
30 seconds
30
2outer2 days ago
+78
Too Weak trump… I like it
78
ITrageGuy2 days ago
+255
Art. Of. The. Deal.
255
dkol972 days ago
+45
Deal of the old fart
45
johnnybgooderer2 days ago
+511
0 hours really. Israel unilaterally decided that the ceasefire didn’t apply to their attacks on Lebanon.
511
Dongsquad420Loki2 days ago
+173
There were also non stop strikes on the gulf States since it started
173
Icyknightmare2 days ago
+73
Were the IRGC involved in the deal at all? If not, a ceasefire isn't worth the energy to tweet about it.
73
Dongsquad420Loki2 days ago
+75
We literally dont know exactly and we much less know if everyone even listens to the same leadership
75
Long_Pomegranate24692 days ago
+11
Even Dumpf doesn't know. He just says shit.
11
WhoSaidWhatNow20262 days ago
+59
Iran's Minister of Foreign Affairs published a statement agreeing to it. Who knows if the IRGC commanders got word of it.
59
joebalooka842 days ago
+13
To a casual observer, It did seem like the idea of Pakistan negotiating a peace settlement could be fraught with all sorts of problems.
13
Broken_Reality2 days ago
+6
Well they are somewhat of an ally of Iran IIRC. Didn't Iran allow a Pakistani oil tanker through the straits?
6
Mistwalker0072 days ago
+5
With the ayatollah gone the elected government and IRGC are the two big players left vying for power, you could say the first is incentivized to see the negotiations fail.
5
EnvironmentalBox66882 days ago
+11
Even if they were, the Israelis and US spent weeks obliterating command and control of the Iranian military apparatus.
Chances are there are a multitude of missile units operating completely autonomously.
11
Icyknightmare2 days ago
+7
That's how the IRGC is setup, specifically designed for this scenario where they knew their chain of command would be taken out. They call it mosaic defense. Lower level IRGC commanders have significant autonomy to continue military operations without any central oversight.
7
Settra_Rulez2 days ago
+28
US says Hezbollah isn’t part of the ceasefire.
28
EuropaWeGo2 days ago
+88
They're saying that now. The original ceasefire agreement brokered through Pakistan included Lebanon. The Pakistan PM confirmed this.
88
wggn2 days ago
+7
But it's in the 10 point plan, so how can it not be?
7
niceufo7772 days ago
+20
And not even that, in fact, from minute zero, I followed the aggressions between Hezbollah and Israel.
20
quantizeddreams2 days ago
+28
How many scaramucci is it?
28
WTS_BRIDGE2 days ago
+34
Well if a mooch is 10 days... zero. Zero mooches later.
34
Kichigai2 days ago
+13
A Decimooch?
13
Numerous-Village-4212 days ago
+4103
So when is the next ultimatum?
4103
robotsock2 days ago
+2880
You can just look up the NYSE closing bell times to gauge when that will be
2880
0x14f2 days ago
+550
This is so sadly accurate...
550
gggg_man32 days ago
+192
Or whatever wagers Hegseth has on polymarket.
192
Zaorish92 days ago
+99
Yeah. There's evidence that trump family and allies are founders or on the board of both polymarket and kalshi - making it just another moneymaking scheme
99
boredphilosopher22 days ago
+77
Don Jr. is strategic advisor to both companies
77
an0mn0mn0m2 days ago
+67
I miss when public officials attempted some kind of facade when hiding their conflict of interest.
67
InsertEvilLaugh2 days ago
+52
Carter put his peanut farm into a blind trust during his presidency, but here we have Trump and his crime family openly using insider information to make massive wagers, and giving government and military contracts to their family members and close friends.
52
BrewerBeer2 days ago
+6
Carter had a (D) next to his name on the ballot and therefore has a much higher bar to clear for SCOTUS scrutiny.
6
RODjij2 days ago
+83
Not even joking the US does it often for the last 5 weeks.
Say something, markets react positive, Israel keeps striking and the US keeps asking for deals before 5pm.
83
DeusVultSaracen2 days ago
+38
Yeah, that's why OC wasn't joking...
38
greyl2 days ago
+31
Way longer than 5 weeks, this didn't start with Iran.
The US let him get away with this while he was making tarriff threats, greenland threats, time and time again he's been allowed to throw the world into chaos to illegally manipulate the market and effectively steal billions of dollars.
Impeach him now or he'll keep doing crazier and crazier things to keep the scam going.
31
ikisstitties2 days ago
+6
5 weeks? basically since inauguration day when started doing this with tariffs on day 1
6
austinwiltshire2 days ago
+7
What is driving me insane is clearly the strait is closed again, yet prices are still up. They all know they're going to go down again but prices won't adjust to literal news. Prices used to pull in news very quick, now they just seem somewhat glued to whatever the Mad King says (at least in the united states)
7
3445676533796435552 days ago
+53
After the stock markets close on Friday.
53
Slipin2 days ago
+2554
That sure lasted long
2554
No_Tree_81442 days ago
+1475
greatest ceasefire maybe in the history of ceasefires. many are saying that
1475
Critical-Usual2 days ago
+443
It lasted many, many minutes. I'm not saying that, they're saying it
443
h0twired2 days ago
+83
They are telling me... many people... all the people... some... very smart... that this was the greatest ceasefire... never seen one like it before.
83
Fox-On-Games2 days ago
+7
> It lasted many, many minutes. I'm not saying that, they're saying it
30 minutes at least, that should be another FIFA peace price and a Charlie Kirk Medal of Biggliest Honor.
7
thesagaconts2 days ago
+121
They say please Mr. President, we can’t take more ceasing. It’s too much ceasing.
121
Livininthinair2 days ago
+15
We miss the bombs…the bombs stopped falling and they say Mr. President please bring back the bombs, and I tell them we only have missiles and they tell me, we don’t care if it’s missiles or bombs just please bring them back…so we did and they loved it.
15
hdcase12 days ago
+27
With tears in their eyes
27
rusted_wheel2 days ago
+8
Strong men
8
jianh19892 days ago
+70
Big beautiful ceasefire, believe me i know all about ceasefire
70
IlVeroStronzo2 days ago
+36
Nobody does ceasefires like I do in the history of ceasefires
36
Full_frontal962 days ago
+5
I also choose this guy ceased ceasefire!
5
Substantial-Pin-29132 days ago
+10
The likes of which no one has seen before
10
Oceanbreeze8712 days ago
+57
Like nobody has ever seen. Everybody is calling me crying saying how great the ceasefire is.
57
Hates_rollerskates2 days ago
+23
Ah, world peace. They don't give that FIFA peace prize out to just anyone.
23
Livininthinair2 days ago
+20
Some people say it was the most beautiful ceasefire ever, the most amazing peace treaty in the history of diplomacy. Well that’s what they are saying.
20
ElandoUK2 days ago
+20
Many ceasefire came up to me, tears in their eyes...
20
PrivatePilot92 days ago
+7
I managed to stop another war that Biden started!
/Trump, eventually.
7
NedRyerson_Insurance2 days ago
+152
These guys, some call them taliban. They look at america and they point their guns at they say fire, but I come in and I look these guys in the eye and I say " but what about the cease? What if we cease before firing? I came up with the term. Look it up. Nobody has ever..i mean people have said fire before. They say fire was the biggest invention in history, but what about water? Can't live without that stuff. So anyway I'm the first to put the cease with the fire. And so I say this and I look at these big strong men in their towels because I guess they just washed their hair. And they look at me. Tears streaming down their face. And they say 'thank you, you are like Allah' their words, not mine. Some say that. So I'm like Allah, their tan Jesus. And so I get out my bible that I always have and I say 'have you heard about Jesus? He's a pretty cool dude.' And so anyway now Iraq is Christian. Was it Iraq? One of those places. So next week I will go to the Israelites. Just like moses went to the israelites, but I won't have two big rocks. I have these wonderful Secret service guys to carry my stuff. Not very secret if you ask me. I mean look at this one. He's right there. I bet he knows a hundred ways to kill ya with his little finger. He could kill anyone in this room, I just have to point and say "that one" and boom, no more chubby guy with glasses and a blue suit. That's a nice suit by the way. Not as nice as mine. Let me send yoy the name of my guy. You couldn't afford him, but he does great work.
152
Stygg_Varg2 days ago
+30
Surely this is a word for word quote
30
Skinner9362 days ago
+33
You must be one of his speech writers. This is too perfect.
33
selfiecat2 days ago
+20
My brain melted
20
SadDoctor2 days ago
+12
point of order: Trump would never just say Jesus seems like a cool dude, because that forms a sentence that's not about him. He'd have to follow up with how much Jesus would like him, or how he's better than Jesus, or how many people are saying he IS jesus.
12
NedRyerson_Insurance2 days ago
+2
Fair point. I will keep that in mind when concocting other insane ramblings. LOL
2
NonDeterministiK2 days ago
+5
You don't need AI to generate this kind of language. Could be generated by a simple finite state automaton easily implemented on a raspberry pi
5
the-planet-earth2 days ago
+47
Long enough for the Trump family to buy the dip and make millions, which is all they care about.
47
raven11212 days ago
+14
" Art of the Deal "
14
lovesdogsguy2 days ago
+14
Shart of the deal.
14
chicu1112 days ago
+4
That’s what she said after I promised her 2 whole minutes but only gave her 2 seconds
4
TriXter692 days ago
+2538
Iran is saying they will withdraw from ceasefire agreement entirely if Israel keeps attacking Lebanon
2538
AssassinAragorn2 days ago
+2068
They made Trump go into this war, they're keeping Trump in this war
2068
[deleted]2 days ago
+145
[deleted]
145
The_Frostweaver2 days ago
+729
They definately pushed Trump into this war but Trump could have said no.
Trump administration has no morals, no plans, no contemplative internal discussion.
Bibi netenyahu personally convinces Trump to go along with his bombing of Iran and that's it.
All the yes men say yes and USA is at war.
729
GayMormonPirate2 days ago
+404
Some details that are so crazy to me: Mossad was directly in communication with President and staff in Situation room. There is usually a go-between there.
AND, Jared Kushner was in the Situation room. Jared Kushner does not have security clearance and is not even a government employee. I'm pretty sure he's on Israel's payroll.
404
Corpus762 days ago
+299
Jared Kushner's role in all of this is absolutely nuts to me. A world leader having their unelected son-in-law directing policy, and everyone's just like "yeah, that's normal"
299
annoyingashe2 days ago
+210
Hunter Biden working on a Ukraine energy board: "This is insane nepotism/corruption. Biden crime family."
Jared Kushner almost singlehandedly deciding foreign policy in the Middle East through the Abraham accords/Board of Peace/being in Trump's ear: "This is totally normal. You have TDS if you don't like it."
The double standards are agonizing
210
swolfington2 days ago
+42
the irony is that TDS is real, but pretending that what trump and co are doing is normal is its one defining symptom.
42
Clogaline2 days ago
+15
I feel like the TDS c*** ultimately comes from their line "you just don't like this thing because its Trump doing it". In some cases thats just false, he does or says things that any decent person would be against. In other cases I think its true but they don't understand why.
The analogy I've been starting to come to is imagining that your roof needs fixed but you really don't want your 3 year old kid doing it. You could make the same turn of phrase the MAGAs use - "you actually do want your roof fixed, you just don't want your 3 year old doing it". You can immediately see why this being a "gotcha" makes no sense. There are things that we might otherwise support. But when the person doing the job is clueless, not likely to have a plan, and the most likely outcome is that they make the problem worse and hurt themselves in the process... it becomes obvious why you don't want them specifically doing it.
15
swolfington2 days ago
+8
ultimately i think trying to dissect TDS on an intellectual level is giving the people who use it as in insult waaaay too much credit. a ton of people are just dumb, spiteful morons who are latching desperately to MAGA because it gives them appropriate social/permission structure for them to be awful people, and lying/projecting about why trump isn't a garbage human being is just part of that.
like, the entire TDS argument boils down to the fact that they think it's "deranged" to distrust someone who's objectively untrustworthy - its an inherently illogical position in the first place. for normal people, it is actually okay to not like someone because they do bad things, and these people are over here pretending like that's some kind of character flaw.
8
Guyfawkes19942 days ago
+21
Shit, he was one of the negotiators who went to Iran to stop the war before it started. It’s not impossible he screwed up with Witkoff and has got literally thousands of people killed.
21
GatoLibre2 days ago
+30
Especially crazy the reason Kushner doesn’t have a security clearance is because he couldn’t pass the standard FBI vetting process to get one during Trump’s first term.
30
GayMormonPirate2 days ago
+21
Yeah, he's too closely tied to foreign entities to get a security clearance. The fact that he's involved in negotiations and war planning is appalling (but not surprising from the Trump admin).
21
WhiskyBraj2 days ago
+57
NYT released a whole article on how the Israelis sold this war to trump and how none of his lackeys dared tell him to not do it.
"According to the report, the Israeli leader was invited into the White House Situation Room on February 11, where he made a presentation — in conjunction with the head of Israel's intelligence service, Mossad."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-04-08/donald-trump-cedes-ground-to-iran-before-negotiations-even-begin/106541368
57
zilla822 days ago
+10
Have you seen the video of him giving the presentation on rebuilding Gaza? PowerPoint slides and all. Peak dystopia.
10
robotmemer2 days ago
+12
Diplomats have been quoted referring to Kushner and Witkoff as "Israeli Assets".
12
Broken_Reality2 days ago
+8
It's not a war it's an excursion..... Or so Trump says though he also sometimes slips and calls it a war which it can't be because Congress didn't vote to go to war so this is just I dunno the US military killing a bunch of innocent people (and some not so innocent people) for no good reason and causing world wide economic turmoil.
My fuel price has gone up over 30 pence a litre now (I am having to cut down on how much I drive) and I don't blame Iran I blame the US and Israel. Food prices are going up and soon many other things will go up. I don't have the liberty of having money to throw away on Trump and Israel being warmongering assholes. Sadly Trump and Bibi will face none of the consequences of this it will be those who are being attacked and worldwide it will be those who are poor who will suffer.
8
The_Great_Googly_Moo2 days ago
+29
Thought it was gonna be like Venezuela very well may turn out worse than Vietnam
29
CursedPhil2 days ago
+19
vietnam didnt lose america the support of their whole allies so its already worse
19
Trap_Masters2 days ago
+46
Guess firing anyone competent in your administration and only keeping incompetent yesmen around wasn't a great idea 😂
46
record_only_water2 days ago
+84
trump made trump go to this war. to deflect from the fact that he raped kids.
84
Inner-Medicine56962 days ago
+13
Trump is in this war for largely the same reason Putin is in his war - as long as he's punching outwards he can keep his base in check by directing hate towards the out-group.
As soon as that bubble collapses, so does their power.
13
Hugh-Manatee2 days ago
+172
So basically explicitly confirms what everyone was thinking - Israel sets the tempo and intensity of the war because they are in charge
172
Tuesday_6PM2 days ago
+103
There’s credible reporting Netanyahu came to the White House with Mossad agents to personally convince Trump to go to war within Iran, against all the recommendations of the US intelligence agencies.
103
[deleted]2 days ago
+33
[removed]
33
Black_Moons2 days ago
+14
Was that directly before or after trump tweeted that he loves evil men so long as they compliment him?
14
GCdotSup2 days ago
+930
I went to sleep upon hearing about a ceasefire. I wake up and hear about an end of ceasfire. I dont want to go to sleep again.
930
funkengruven2 days ago
+379
It's all your fault!
379
amorphouscloud2 days ago
+107
Get this guy!
107
I_PEE_WITH_THAT2 days ago
+5
Pitchforks here, get your pitchforks!
5
angryPenguinator2 days ago
+88
Omg he’s Biden
88
SunnyWomble2 days ago
+10
Well, he \*was\* asleep
10
seszett2 days ago
+9
How long did you sleep man? I also went to sleep upon hearing of the ceasefire (it was quite late, granted), but now that it has ended it is already time to sleep again for me.
9
DomTheBomb952 days ago
+1951
I can’t believe Biden has done this
1951
Rhaj-no19922 days ago
+569
What about Obama?
569
isotope42492 days ago
+425
Impeach Kamala now!
425
rawSingularity2 days ago
+128
And look into Hillary's emails too
128
classless_classic2 days ago
+83
This was all on Hunter’s laptop!
83
johnnybiggles2 days ago
+23
Caravans made it here and did this
23
theblasphemer2 days ago
+22
I have from good sources that they're eating the cats and dogs! Cats and dogs!
22
Henchman_2_42 days ago
+90
Crooked Hillary is behind it all
90
eMouse2k2 days ago
+42
She must have some emails about this somewhere.
42
EL-YEO2 days ago
+11
How about you say thank you
11
nychuman2 days ago
+4
Just had some Trump friends try and convince me not even an hour ago this is all Obama’s fault. Apparently he paid them to make nukes.
I’m so done man.
4
UncomfortableTacoBoy2 days ago
+28
Hunter's laptop strikes again
28
natural_disaster02 days ago
+413
I keep coming back to the crazy fact that we have Americans sling shotting around the moon - something incredibly inspiring for our country and proof that we can do complex and monumental things.
Then here on earth we cant even manage a ceasefire for 24 hours.
413
yongrii2 days ago
+75
Those astronauts looking back at Earth and thinking
“look at those ants squabbling over that little blue marble”
75
555Cats5552 days ago
+14
Hence why they didnt say anything to trump... it was either silence or say something that would be bad. Although at the same time what Trump said to them ended up being kinda weird so I could kinda understand why they didnt have anything to say. He could have just said they were brave and doing something but he bought up a sports player...
14
MagicCuboid2 days ago
+13
Not only that, it’s America and CANADA as a loving team!! I’m so inspired and touched by the level of comeraderie between our nations that SHOULD be a no brainer. Meanwhile we have president dickhead doing everything in his power to destroy that amazing relationship.
Only two nations have ever gone to the moon together, and it’s America and Canada. That should mean something to people!!!
13
Spare-Pace42832 days ago
+36
Trump and Iran have agreed there are 10 points in the ceasefire, turns out they were talking about 10 different points. Conducting foreign policy through twitter rants has downsides
36
big_samosa2 days ago
+178
Damn I was betting it would hold til Friday at market close, but I’ll take this too
178
Far_Stuff_17642 days ago
+121
Does trump release the epstein files to distract from the Iran war now?
121
Wuncemoor2 days ago
+26
Might need to release the Epstein files to distract from the Iranian failure
26
Badmoto2 days ago
+458
I’m absolutely stunned at how disastrous this whole thing was. Well not really, it’s Trump and he’s a f****** clown.
1. We removed the leadership and a more hardline leadership took its place.
2. We buried their fissile material, what they hadn’t hidden away, so they still have it.
3. This activity gives them every incentive in the world to race towards a nuke. That would be the only real protection they’d have.
4. They took absolute control of the straight of Hormuz and can and will extract all leverage from that over all shipping through there which is massive.
5. They’re now getting paid $2M per boat to allow them through.
6. We destroyed a lot of Iran’s weapons but by some accounts, they still have 70% of hidden away.
7. This war cost the U.S. $100B. Even more to replace the munitions we expended. Imagine if we’d spent that on healthcare or education.
8. We are now the absolute unhinged, unstable and, more importantly, unreliable force in the world. This is all new territory. We weren’t always great, but we had stability at least. Now we’re absolute chaos.
9. The loss of innocent Iranian life.
10. The loss of U.S. servicemen life
11. The damage to surrounding nations infrastructure will have ongoing economic consequences.
12. The damage to U.S. bases abroad.
By all accounts we are far, far worse off than if we had done nothing. This may be the single worst decision in the history of the U.S. and Trump will always be remembered for this.
458
Mk4pi2 days ago
+152
His mismanagement probably leads to the dead of thousands if not hundred thousands of Americans during covid. Yet he is here! With a second term. You are overestimating the ability of society to remember or care.
152
TheRealStubb2 days ago
+11
This horrible mismanagement will finally be able to let him live down his horrible Covid mismanagement which killed thousands of Americans.
11
AnomalyNexus2 days ago
+54
Also a fresh 93m population of very angry people for recruiting extremists from. That's going to screw over the US for decades to come
54
gtafan378902 days ago
+50
There’s also the US losing its last credibility as a defense partner. The Arab Gulf countries had depended on the US for their military defence. However, what’s the point of continuing that when the US failed to defend them against Iranian drones and dragged them into a conflict that ruined their reputation as a safe haven for foreign investors.
If the US’ threats against its NATO allies wasn’t enough, this war fully cemented the US as an unreliable ally and any country with defensive agreements with the US should start looking for other options.
50
UzzNuff2 days ago
+10
Yes, Iran has shown that the Gulf States are economically at their mercy and the US is unable to protect them from that.
Strategically this seem like a massive victory for Iran as they now are basically the dominant power in the region.
The loss of influence in the region for the US will be massive.
10
TrainquilOnline2 days ago
+41
The US has burned most of its relations with the world. We will not forgive them for what they have done. They had the chance to NEVER vote for him AGAIN(!!!!) after his first presidency, but despite knowing how unhinged he was, they did it again.
The US is no longer our trustworthy ally. Hell, I'd rather us be allied to China. For generations to come, the US will be shunned.
Of course, this doesn't apply to the millions of Americans who never wanted this psychopath in charge. For them I feel sorry. I am worried for my American friends who never wanted any of this.
But the people that voted for this lunatic - You will not be forgotten. We will remember what you did. We know who you are.
41
VanCityPhotoNewbie2 days ago
+1370
>Pakistan’s Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, meanwhile, said the ceasefire applied “everywhere", including Lebanon, as he announced Islamabad will host delegations from the US and Iran for talks later this week. But Israel has insisted that Lebanon is not included, and the Israeli military said it carried out its “largest coordinated strike across Lebanon" hours into the ceasefire.
Essentially, they were told specifically that the ceasefire was everywhere and Israel said "F*** it, we need the war to continue".
1370
Fenix422 days ago
+702
So the same thing that has been hapening for 50+ years.
702
TakuyaLee2 days ago
+246
Except this time it has a very good chance of angering the rest of the world and isolating Israel.
246
Sufficient_Steak_8392 days ago
+121
No one is going to separate Israel from the US in this scenario
121
__Yakovlev__2 days ago
+19
There's a lot more than "the rest of the world" than just the US
19
mojambowhatisthescen2 days ago
+237
I wish — they’ve done a lot of shit that should’ve angered the whole world and sidelined Israel, yet here we still are
237
LeZarathustra2 days ago
+75
They _have_ angered most of the world. On several occasions. It's just that the only country that could realistically do something about them is refusing to.
75
georgewesker972 days ago
+10
Lol, you are certainly more hopeful than me
10
IntelArtiGen2 days ago
+172
> Pakistan’s Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, meanwhile, said the ceasefire applied “everywhere", including Lebanon,
Trump says the opposite: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2026/apr/08/iran-war-ceasefire-live-updates-trump-deadline-middle-east-crisis-latest-news
> Lebanon is not part of the two-week ceasefire deal, US president Donald Trump has told the media.
So, who's lying? We'll quickly know I think.
172
Kakariko_crackhouse2 days ago
+176
Trump retweeted the Iranian points that listed cessation of hostilities between all parties, so he was aware
176
Classic-Trifle-20852 days ago
+72
Its been a.mess. yesterday after an hour it became evident what Iran and the US tough they agreed too was completely different (CNN reported what was in IRAN medias and Trump threw a tantrum saying hell sue CNN for it), and the Israeli Air Force confirmed strikes between Iran and Israel never stopped.
The "open of the strait" was also understood to still be under Iran control and they could still charge their toll.
Literally, that cease fire never actually hapenned. No one agreed on what it even was.
IRAN always included all party as a condition to a ceasefire (which make sense in kilti party wars) and Pakistani from the very start said it included all party.
Israel and USA just claim otherwise, which doesnt make sense. Why woudnt a cease fire include all part from both side and let you bomb a minor party to Iran?
72
IntelArtiGen2 days ago
+17
Now they even say it's not the same 10 points they agreed on, it's so pathetic.
17
philly_jake2 days ago
+72
The third party (Pakistan) is by default the one to be trusted
72
SequiturNon2 days ago
+3
If Trump says something, there's an inordinately high chance that he's lying. Why even post him as a source?
3
kr3w_fam2 days ago
+275
But what about "ultimate US victory Donald?
275
Donkletown2 days ago
+41
We got some sweet videos of the US blowing things up that we can cut into Call of Duty footage. What else do you want?
41
letitglowbig2 days ago
+62
How many Scaramuccis is this cease fire gonna be?
62
badaimarcher2 days ago
+25
Not even a whole mooch!
25
jethroguardian2 days ago
+6
58.3 milliMooches if you call it a 14 hour ceasefire.
6
siddsm2 days ago
+73
It was the greatest ceasefire, and I know about ceasefires, I've seen all the ceasefires, and they were terrible, and boring. They didn't even use a real pen to sign the ceasefire, they were like, oh, where's the autopen? And I ordered the best pens. Kids these days have no idea, they will be like, mommy, what's this? I got the best deal on these pens. Not $100, not $50. $5 per piece. They even engraved the picture of the Whitehouse and Trump 2028 on the side in gold. They said, you don't have to pay, but I told them, no, I'm gonna pay. And I used these $5 pens to sign the ceasefire and it was so successful, that Iran and Israel generals were calling me and saying, Mr. President, we are bored of the ceasefires. And I told them make sure you don't forget to thank me for the pens.
73
bakpecko2 days ago
+12
I actually read this in his voice
12
BlackestBeetle2 days ago
+4
I didn't. I don't think he can articulate such long sentences
4
ljlukelj2 days ago
+85
Is there a sub that discusses this with actual discussion? The comments are funny but I find a bunch of snarky comments useless when I need actual information and updates, if anyone has a better sub please lmk.
85
Moodfoo2 days ago
+70
For actual information and updates:
[https://apnews.com/](https://apnews.com/)
[https://www.bbc.com/](https://www.bbc.com/)
[https://www.reuters.com/](https://www.reuters.com/)
Listnookors aren't journalists.
70
anoidciv2 days ago
+13
Everyone should go straight to these sites when they see breaking news instead of trusting information from whatever source someone has posted (in this case, news18.com) and Listnook commenters.
For what it's worth, AP only confirmed Iran is closing the Strait 15 minutes ago and Reuters hasn't confirmed yet. The linked article in this post is from 4 hours ago. That says something about various outlets' verification standards.
13
BibliophileBroad2 days ago
+9
Just what I was thinking
9
Shot_Cupcakes2 days ago
+30
Liz Truss lasted more than this ceasefire.
30
cycleprof2 days ago
+11
Greatest ceasefire ever. The world has never seen anything like it. No one has even opened the Straits like this.
11
NestroyAM2 days ago
+9
I wonder if Iran figured out by now that they, too, control Wallstreet right now and can make billions by just syncing their investments to an announcement of the strait closing or opening
9
aeolus811tw2 days ago
+15
now hormuz is the ultimate bargaining chip for Iran
nobody could've seen this coming, nobody. /s
15
I-Might-Be-Something2 days ago
+39
Well it was fun while it lasted!
39
jrinredcar2 days ago
+13
Two Week ceasefire? Sorry Trump meant a Too Weak ceasefire
13
SandMan39142 days ago
+135
Israel wants to keep US in the fight and will 100% be the instigators. Trump is a complete moron
135
Captain_Inverse2 days ago
+35
The most predictable thing of all time maybe? The agreement basically states in text to Iran "you now formally have control of The Strait of Hormuz". So they can now use a closure whenever they need to pressure basically anyone.
35
socialistrob2 days ago
+13
If the 10 point plan more or less stands and the US agrees to it long term then it should go down as a massive US defeat. It's worse in every single way than the prewar status quo and will enable Iran to develop nuclear weapons and make massive amounts of money tolling a waterway which should be untollable according to UNCLOS. It sets a horrible precedent that countries bordering straits can charge access to them. Freedom of navigation is how the US became so rich and powerful to begin with and to see it undermined so blatantly is a huge blow to the US's strategic interests.
13
zeek2152 days ago
+5
The world is sympathetic to Iran defending itself, but if they tried to upend the world economy when not defending from invaders the rest of the world wouldn’t be so kind.
5
scarab10012 days ago
+148
The Orange A****** will surrender even harder to keep the stock market from crashing and the Strait open (with Iran controlling it).
Ceasefire will end in a permanent peace with complete surrender by America. Kegsbreath will view it as a victory (he gets to keep his cosplaying as a war leader).
148
weirdkittenNC2 days ago
+53
Trump will get paid off with part of the strait tolls. That’s enough for him.
53
watch_out_4_snakes2 days ago
+19
Damn, that’s just realistic
19
Technical_Toe_20122 days ago
+10
Art of the deal
10
SaddankHusseinthe2nd2 days ago
+10
This wouldn’t have happened if Trump was president!
10
[deleted]2 days ago
+48
[deleted]
48
BestFriendWatermelon2 days ago
+18
Too late Iran! Trump already claimed victory no takebacks!
18
MustWarn0thers2 days ago
+8
Time to hand out the "Fell for it again" awards to Wall Street?
8
RustedRelics2 days ago
+8
This whole thing has been a huge market manipulation, insider-trading scheme.
8
SirRichardLove2 days ago
+3
Well, That lasted about a heartbeat.
3
Doughtnutz2 days ago
+4
Trump really is the biggest joke on the world stage. Can't do anything apart from f*** things up.
4
Packolypse2 days ago
+4
Who could have seen this coming. Us. Everyone not trump. He never ceases to amaze me with how bad he screws things up. Each and every time you would think someone in his cabinet would push back and say let’s take 5 minutes to talk about this, but it never happens. And here we are and he looks genuinely shocked that is his actions that he didn’t plan for, in an area that he doesn’t understand blows up in his face.
199 Comments